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  • El_Nino
    10898 posts Has That Special Something
    That was so jammy, you were absolutely woeful today 😂

    Chelsea weren’t much better against Brighton mind you, so pot kettle black and all.
  • G000ner
    10036 posts Has That Special Something
    Also hate to say it, but you could really see where Emi is better than Leno today. Leno looked really vulnerable to the crosses and didn't have good command of his box
  • arsenalap
    15121 posts World Class
    Yh, also I hate that Leno is now going to be under such a watch. Every mistake criticised probably.
  • G000ner
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    edited September 2020
    arsenalap wrote: »
    Yh, also I hate that Leno is now going to be under such a watch. Every mistake criticised probably.

    Yep, don't want to say it because Leno is great too, but the problem is Emi was so faultless during that period. Seemed to catch every cross or shot. You just felt so confident with him in goal that people are gonna question why we sold him when Leno has a shaky moment.
  • arsenalap
    15121 posts World Class
    Tbh we really should have had some clause in the contract about buybacks or first refusal or something with Emi.
  • BondJame5Collins
    2716 posts Fans' Favourite
    Agree. Leno doesn't command his box. He creates panic. Martinez created a calm aura in the defence.
  • Stlducks
    10422 posts Has That Special Something
    If Arsenal sold Emi or kept him, either way fans would be critical of Leno. Look at the Man United situation with DDG. Better to just sell one and move on imo instead of always having the debate on who should be playing.
  • El_Nino
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    I agree with Stlducks tbf, I think having Martinez still there would only end up with fans even unhappier with Leno starting after an error, or it would lead to switching GKs way too often.

  • ViVaWhom
    9435 posts League Winner
    Martinez should have been 1st choice and sold Leno
  • BobbyBriggs
    96 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    Martinez should have been 1st choice and sold Leno

    How did your team do tonight Viva mate
  • arsenalap
    15121 posts World Class
    Loan with an option to buy..

    Then they want us to bend over for Partey.

    Jog on
  • El_Nino
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    arsenalap wrote: »
    Loan with an option to buy..

    Then they want us to bend over for Partey.

    Jog on

    While I agree you shouldn’t take it, Partey is a player they use(I assume), whereas Torreria is someone you seem to be actively looking to ship out.
  • arsenalap
    15121 posts World Class
    El_Nino wrote: »
    arsenalap wrote: »
    Loan with an option to buy..

    Then they want us to bend over for Partey.

    Jog on

    While I agree you shouldn’t take it, Partey is a player they use(I assume), whereas Torreria is someone you seem to be actively looking to ship out.

    Torreira is still a valuable asset. Any offer of a loan with an option we should be refusing.
  • Ashy
    25589 posts Player of the Year
    edited September 2020
    El_Nino wrote: »
    arsenalap wrote: »
    Loan with an option to buy..

    Then they want us to bend over for Partey.

    Jog on

    While I agree you shouldn’t take it, Partey is a player they use(I assume), whereas Torreria is someone you seem to be actively looking to ship out.

    The thing is they want to bring Torreira in on loan with an option to buy, we simple cannot do that, Torreira is a player we have to loan with obligation to buy.

    Atletico Madrid have to sell to bring players in, they can't bring Marc Roca or Torreira in unless someone is sold, Partey could be that guy. Both those players they have been linked with seem like his replacement rather than additions, they seem pretty stacked there.

    They won't budge on the £45m release clause but we can't pay the clause unless we sell Torreira not loan with an option which is no guarantee of money.
  • El_Nino
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    arsenalap wrote: »
    El_Nino wrote: »
    arsenalap wrote: »
    Loan with an option to buy..

    Then they want us to bend over for Partey.

    Jog on

    While I agree you shouldn’t take it, Partey is a player they use(I assume), whereas Torreria is someone you seem to be actively looking to ship out.

    Torreira is still a valuable asset. Any offer of a loan with an option we should be refusing.

    Yeah I agree you shouldn’t take a loan with option, no point, I was just saying the comparison to Partey is two very different situations.

    I agree you need to get Cash or keep Torreria.
  • Stlducks
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    If Partey wants to move he just put in a request and see if Atletico and Arsenal can work something out on moving Torreira plus cash for him.

    Torreria, just like Guendouzi is over-hyped and over-priced by Arsenal supporters. Not much interest in other clubs for either one. If they were that talented, there would be a lot more options out there considering their age and the fact Arsenal are openly trying to move them.
  • LiveArsenal
    1339 posts Professional
    Runarsson now official
  • Ashy
    25589 posts Player of the Year
    edited September 2020
    We have now 19 non-homegrown over 21 year olds and the requirement is 17 max. If we are to bring a midfielder such as Partey or Aouar in then we need to sell/loan/drop 3 of these players below

    Leno
    Runarsson
    Cedric
    Mustafi*
    Sokratis*
    David Luiz
    Gabriel
    Pablo Mari
    Tierney
    Kolasinac*
    Xhaka
    Elneny
    Torreira*
    Ceballos
    Ozil
    Pepe
    Willian
    Aubameyang
    Lacazette

    The 4 players with a * are the ones that seem to be actively rumoured to move, Mustafi to Lazio, Sokratis to Napoli, Kolasinac to Leverkusen and Torreira to Atletico/Torino. I doubt any of the others will be sold so 3 of those 4 have to go or be dropped in the next 14 days
  • BondJame5Collins
    2716 posts Fans' Favourite
    Martinez :'(
  • Ashy
    25589 posts Player of the Year
    Stlducks wrote: »

    Has Herrera even been linked with a team?

    We can play the Torreira game one of two ways. An expensive loan like €8m without an option to buy and we hope his price tag goes up over there and we sell next summer for £35m rather than £22m.

    Or we accept nothing other than a £22m fee whether that is a loan with obligation or installment payments. Something that guarantees us money so we move for Partey/Aouar.


    Either way 3 players need to move on, Torreira, Sokratis and either Kola or Mustafi seem the favourites to go.
  • Stlducks
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    Ashy wrote: »
    Stlducks wrote: »

    Has Herrera even been linked with a team?

    We can play the Torreira game one of two ways. An expensive loan like €8m without an option to buy and we hope his price tag goes up over there and we sell next summer for £35m rather than £22m.

    Or we accept nothing other than a £22m fee whether that is a loan with obligation or installment payments. Something that guarantees us money so we move for Partey/Aouar.


    Either way 3 players need to move on, Torreira, Sokratis and either Kola or Mustafi seem the favourites to go.

    That tweet was the first I have heard of Herrera being shopped around. A quick Twitter/Google search and I do not see any clubs linked to him. I know Atletico do not want Partey to go but if the player wants to move and they want Torreria, a swap plus cash is best for all involved.
  • arsenalap
    15121 posts World Class
    How isnt that a pen..
  • Ashy
    25589 posts Player of the Year
    arsenalap wrote: »
    How isnt that a pen..

    Tough one really I'm not convinced and it looked like Saka's foot it the ground rather than significant player contact
  • Stlducks
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    Ashy wrote: »
    arsenalap wrote: »
    How isnt that a pen..

    Tough one really I'm not convinced and it looked like Saka's foot it the ground rather than significant player contact

    Look awkward but Saka losing his footing is probably why it wasn't a pen. If he didn't trip that would have been a pen for sure.
  • G000ner
    10036 posts Has That Special Something
    Saka on another level to the rest of our players today
  • arsenalap
    15121 posts World Class
    G000ner wrote: »
    Saka on another level to the rest of our players today

    Yep. David Luiz has looked good as well but the rest too passive.

    Holding and Nelson are doing okay.
  • Ashy
    25589 posts Player of the Year
    edited September 2020
    - Eddie seems invisible
    - Pepe similar, expecting more from him in the second half
    - Nelson looked the best out of the front 3
    - Saka best so far, always looking to make something happen and his product is the best
    - Elneny, bit average, nothing to say really
    - Willock has looked poor for me, could do with subbing him off for Ceballos at half time or shortly into the second half.
    - AMN been a bit invisible, nothing attacking coming down that right side really.
    - Holding has looked good, quite impressed
    - David Luiz has looked fine, his long balls are a bit off today
    - Kolasinac has looked fine to be honest
    - Leno doing fine for me


    Ceballos, Laca, Willian for Willock, Eddie, Pepe is what I expect if we need a goal
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