I’ll be surprised if we even get two players at our current rate. I won’t believe that VDB or Sancho are done deals until they are seen playing the piano.
I’ll be surprised if we even get two players at our current rate. I won’t believe that VDB or Sancho are done deals until they are seen playing the piano.
No please just not the Piano.. let them play anythig juat not that Piano
I know our name is just being used to get Liverpool to pay up and nobody reliable is saying this but can you imagine if we got Thiago and VDB for 70m?
Our midfield would be unreal
It would be hilariously pointless though 😂 you’d have 2 of VDB/Pogba/Thiago benched, meanwhile Greenwood/Shaw/Lindleof/Matic start
Thiago could play #6 against the non-top teams over Matic tbh
He plays in a double pivot with Goretzka, who is quite attacking, so doing it with Pogba shouldn't be that different.
I don't like his age profile and how injury prone he is, but for the fee, he would be a steal.
Fact still remains though we're being used to get Liverpool to pay up. Can't see us going for 2 mids.
Even against lesser team a central midfield of Bruno/Pogba/Thiago is asking for trouble, your just going to get done on the counter time and time again.
Your right though it’s a redundant conversation, just use of the media to try and hurt Liverpool along, I don’t know why clubs/agents bother with this anymore when it’s so obvious
VDB is a great buy and I hope it actually goes through. I think him and hopefully Sancho would be a decent window and hopefully pick up a DM and maybe CB next window.
Would his signing soften the blow if you miss out on Sancho? Seems quite the come down even if Beek is a decent prospect.
Nothing to do with Sancho whatsoever. I'm not saying we're guaranteed to sign Sancho, but that VdB has zero relevance to him. We've wanted Sancho and a creative midfielder all window, and reports say that we're playing the long game in the window for Sancho and are not giving up.
The player who is affected by VDB is Grealish. I think Jack was Ole's first choice for the job but Villa have priced him out of the move by asking double what VDB is available for so the club have moved on to option 1b.
So VDB, doesn’t get into the starting side? Could play him Pogba and Bruno against the more defensive/lower sides and bring in a DM for the Top 6 sides? Does he come here expecting to be a starter?
So VDB, doesn’t get into the starting side? Could play him Pogba and Bruno against the more defensive/lower sides and bring in a DM for the Top 6 sides? Does he come here expecting to be a starter?
Given the fact he's so versatile, he can play 10, 8 (and even 6 against the weaker sides as you say), he'll get plenty of games despite being a rotation option. We desperately needed some quality on the bench, he majorly fits the bill. If City can have B.Silva on the bench, there's no reason we can't have VdB given we're trying to get back to competing for the title in the not too distant future (not this season ofc).
VDB is still young enough to come and start on the bench while starting cup games. Top clubs need top players on the bench when they have 2-3 games a week. I see no negative side to United buying VDB. Just because you have him, doesn't mean he needs to start every game.
United are also planning for the inevitable Pogba injury.
Donny might start on the bench, but when you guys see how good he is, he can easily take Pogba's spot (can't see Bruno being bench because of how good he's been since signing) I think, unless you decide to play 3 midfielders Bruno-Beek-Pogba. Pogba might be better attacking, but Donny is better defensively and gives everything every match which is something MU desperately needs in their midfield
So VDB, doesn’t get into the starting side? Could play him Pogba and Bruno against the more defensive/lower sides and bring in a DM for the Top 6 sides? Does he come here expecting to be a starter?
Given the fact he's so versatile, he can play 10, 8 (and even 6 against the weaker sides as you say), he'll get plenty of games despite being a rotation option. We desperately needed some quality on the bench, he majorly fits the bill. If City can have B.Silva on the bench, there's no reason we can't have VdB given we're trying to get back to competing for the title in the not too distant future (not this season ofc).
Yeah I was just wondering if he’s still interested knowing he wouldn’t be starting. But yeah if he’s happy to rotate he’s an excellent signing that instantly gives up depth, versatility and quality from the bench. Hopefully we can wrap it up quickly.
I’m interested in who a DM target could be? I kinda get the feeling we’re going to try transform McT to play that Matic role? I 100% think he could do that.
“Talks over the potential signing of Jadon Sancho from Borussia Dortmund have yet to be resolved, while United are also in the market for a new centre back.” - Fabrizio
Nice to have Fabrizio confirm the planned window is Sancho, an AM (VdB we now know) and a CB as was suspected. Whether we get them all is down to Ed and Judge, but good to see the confirmation that that's the plan.
“Talks over the potential signing of Jadon Sancho from Borussia Dortmund have yet to be resolved, while United are also in the market for a new centre back.” - Fabrizio
Nice to have Fabrizio confirm the planned window is Sancho, an AM (VdB we now know) and a CB as was suspected. Whether we get them all is down to Ed and Judge, but good to see the confirmation that that's the plan.
We've had widespread confirmation of reports in Holland about VDB. The fact that didn't happen with Badiashile makes me a little suspicious. Could still be targeting Pau Torres IMO
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My guess is just after the internationals are over since he's in the Holland squad so not this week but the next one.
I know our name is just being used to get Liverpool to pay up and nobody reliable is saying this but can you imagine if we got Thiago and VDB for 70m?
Our midfield would be unreal
It would be hilariously pointless though 😂 you’d have 2 of VDB/Pogba/Thiago benched, meanwhile Greenwood/Shaw/Lindleof/Matic start
Thiago could play #6 against the non-top teams over Matic tbh
He plays in a double pivot with Goretzka, who is quite attacking, so doing it with Pogba shouldn't be that different.
I don't like his age profile and how injury prone he is, but for the fee, he would be a steal.
Fact still remains though we're being used to get Liverpool to pay up. Can't see us going for 2 mids.
No please just not the Piano.. let them play anythig juat not that Piano
Even against lesser team a central midfield of Bruno/Pogba/Thiago is asking for trouble, your just going to get done on the counter time and time again.
Your right though it’s a redundant conversation, just use of the media to try and hurt Liverpool along, I don’t know why clubs/agents bother with this anymore when it’s so obvious
Nothing to do with Sancho whatsoever. I'm not saying we're guaranteed to sign Sancho, but that VdB has zero relevance to him. We've wanted Sancho and a creative midfielder all window, and reports say that we're playing the long game in the window for Sancho and are not giving up.
Welcome to Manchester United transfers in the Woodward+Judge era.
Can't tell if he's a CB or a CF at this rate
Given the fact he's so versatile, he can play 10, 8 (and even 6 against the weaker sides as you say), he'll get plenty of games despite being a rotation option. We desperately needed some quality on the bench, he majorly fits the bill. If City can have B.Silva on the bench, there's no reason we can't have VdB given we're trying to get back to competing for the title in the not too distant future (not this season ofc).
United are also planning for the inevitable Pogba injury.
Yeah I was just wondering if he’s still interested knowing he wouldn’t be starting. But yeah if he’s happy to rotate he’s an excellent signing that instantly gives up depth, versatility and quality from the bench. Hopefully we can wrap it up quickly.
I’m interested in who a DM target could be? I kinda get the feeling we’re going to try transform McT to play that Matic role? I 100% think he could do that.
Nice to have Fabrizio confirm the planned window is Sancho, an AM (VdB we now know) and a CB as was suspected. Whether we get them all is down to Ed and Judge, but good to see the confirmation that that's the plan.
We've had widespread confirmation of reports in Holland about VDB. The fact that didn't happen with Badiashile makes me a little suspicious. Could still be targeting Pau Torres IMO
Rough math:
United ~300m (w/VDB)
Chelsea ~300m (w/ Havertz)
City ~210m
Liverpool ~160m
Spurs ~130m
Arsenal ~120m
(I've counted players who've played decent minutes at CDM/CM/CAM only for this.)
It's neck and neck between United and Chelsea.
Doesn’t matter what the club say. In this day and age players seem to hold the power, if they want out 9/10 times they end up getting the move.
iirc when CR7 was here we constantly put out he’s stopping , he won’t leave , saf said he wouldn’t do business with real then in the end he was sold.
Liverpool said coutinho wasn’t going to leave and in the end he was sold.
You mean like how they clarified Dembele definitely wouldn’t leave, and then he did?