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  • Estaban
    1175 posts Professional
    They put The age limit at 3+ on the game. You shouldn’t be able to bankrupt an adult or need monitoring if you put 3+ on a game.
  • Rich2015
    237 posts Sunday League Hero
    edited June 26
    Rich2015 wrote: »
    I wanted to comment on this article but couldn't so i'm posting now.

    Fifa Points aren't the problem, the price of them is. Without Fifa Points, players in the UK would be at a huge disadvantage. Moreover, if FP were banned worldwide, it would be the end of Ultimate Team. EA won't put any effort into a gamemode that no longer brings in money.

    The issue is the price of them, 12k FP should not cost £80, its ridiculous. The only way to move forward is to massively reduce the price, i'd say £20-25 for 12k FP is fair. This way:

    - Those who are P2P can still do so without going into their overdraft.
    - EA still get rich and still have incentive to put content.
    .

    Nonsense

    It's gambling and children play it

    I have a better idea....if you want to put gambling in then make it 18 plus

    I find it disgusting that EA have that BLM thing in game yet they are harming CHILDREN with predatory practices that are gambling and are not concerned whatsoever



    I agree to a certain extent, but that's down to the parents, they should be monitoring there child finances.

    Thats not right at all,thats like saying its not a paedophiles fault that he abducted or molested a kid the parents should have been watching them

    Its gambling

    kids play it

    make it 18 if you want the gambling

    Its predatory...thats why there is Fifa points for like a couple of pound,just enough to buy with pocket money

    Your being selfish because you don't want FUT ruined

    Its gambling and kids play it

  • BondJame5Collins
    1955 posts Fans' Favourite
    Rich2015 wrote: »
    Rich2015 wrote: »
    I wanted to comment on this article but couldn't so i'm posting now.

    Fifa Points aren't the problem, the price of them is. Without Fifa Points, players in the UK would be at a huge disadvantage. Moreover, if FP were banned worldwide, it would be the end of Ultimate Team. EA won't put any effort into a gamemode that no longer brings in money.

    The issue is the price of them, 12k FP should not cost £80, its ridiculous. The only way to move forward is to massively reduce the price, i'd say £20-25 for 12k FP is fair. This way:

    - Those who are P2P can still do so without going into their overdraft.
    - EA still get rich and still have incentive to put content.
    .

    Nonsense

    It's gambling and children play it

    I have a better idea....if you want to put gambling in then make it 18 plus

    I find it disgusting that EA have that BLM thing in game yet they are harming CHILDREN with predatory practices that are gambling and are not concerned whatsoever



    I agree to a certain extent, but that's down to the parents, they should be monitoring there child finances.

    Thats not right at all,thats like saying its not a paedophiles fault that he abducted or molested a kid the parents should have been watching them

    Its gambling

    kids play it

    make it 18 if you want the gambling

    Its predatory...thats why there is Fifa points for like a couple of pound,just enough to buy with pocket money

    Your being selfish because you don't want FUT ruined

    Its gambling and kids play it

    I understand your points, it's a tricky one. There does need to be some sort of safeguarding put in place, if they can have some sort of ID required when making the transaction, or removing the ability of buying FIfa points on the regular edition 3+ and making the deluxe edition an 16+
  • Rich2015
    237 posts Sunday League Hero
    edited June 26
    Rich2015 wrote: »
    Rich2015 wrote: »
    I wanted to comment on this article but couldn't so i'm posting now.

    Fifa Points aren't the problem, the price of them is. Without Fifa Points, players in the UK would be at a huge disadvantage. Moreover, if FP were banned worldwide, it would be the end of Ultimate Team. EA won't put any effort into a gamemode that no longer brings in money.

    The issue is the price of them, 12k FP should not cost £80, its ridiculous. The only way to move forward is to massively reduce the price, i'd say £20-25 for 12k FP is fair. This way:

    - Those who are P2P can still do so without going into their overdraft.
    - EA still get rich and still have incentive to put content.
    .

    Nonsense

    It's gambling and children play it

    I have a better idea....if you want to put gambling in then make it 18 plus

    I find it disgusting that EA have that BLM thing in game yet they are harming CHILDREN with predatory practices that are gambling and are not concerned whatsoever



    I agree to a certain extent, but that's down to the parents, they should be monitoring there child finances.

    Thats not right at all,thats like saying its not a paedophiles fault that he abducted or molested a kid the parents should have been watching them

    Its gambling

    kids play it

    make it 18 if you want the gambling

    Its predatory...thats why there is Fifa points for like a couple of pound,just enough to buy with pocket money

    Your being selfish because you don't want FUT ruined

    Its gambling and kids play it

    I understand your points, it's a tricky one. There does need to be some sort of safeguarding put in place, if they can have some sort of ID required when making the transaction, or removing the ability of buying FIfa points on the regular edition 3+ and making the deluxe edition an 16+

    EA could make enough to keep UT going if they go down the season pass route which they are doing but Fifa 21 will prob be season pass and gambling and paying £60 for the game and more expensive editions up to £90

    that is beyond greedy

    what i do hope is when it is decided that it is gambling EA then get sued for damages


  • CosmicFuzz
    839 posts Semi-Pro
    No FP and all loot boxes need to go. By all means charge for additional content but be up front about it so people know what they are buying and can make a more informed choice
  • malky
    543 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Signed👍
  • gregsii
    992 posts Professional
    edited June 27
    Reducing the price of FP would be catastrophic.
    Everyone would be buying packs then if you could get 12k FP for 20 quid.
    The situation would be even worse.

    They would have to decrease how much 12k FP could buy you.

    Ultimate team needs to be an 18 or loot boxes need to go for good.
  • KilleenSweep
    231 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Up.
  • Fifa_Hawk_85
    16541 posts World Class
    gregsii wrote: »
    Reducing the price of FP would be catastrophic.
    Everyone would be buying packs then if you could get 12k FP for 20 quid.
    The situation would be even worse.

    They would have to decrease how much 12k FP could buy you.

    Ultimate team needs to be an 18 or loot boxes need to go for good.

    The latter will happen. Fifa would never let EA make this game an 18+.
  • DaMMian
    1223 posts Professional
    CosmicFuzz wrote: »
    No FP and all loot boxes need to go. By all means charge for additional content but be up front about it so people know what they are buying and can make a more informed choice

    Loot boxes? its surprise mechanics
    https://youtube.com/watch?time_continue=48&v=nVYEqaFZJWo&feature=emb_logo
  • Signed. I've been banging this drum since FUT started, good to see it finally getting serious discussion.
  • gregsii
    992 posts Professional
    Bump
  • gregsii
    992 posts Professional
    gregsii wrote: »
    Reducing the price of FP would be catastrophic.
    Everyone would be buying packs then if you could get 12k FP for 20 quid.
    The situation would be even worse.

    They would have to decrease how much 12k FP could buy you.

    Ultimate team needs to be an 18 or loot boxes need to go for good.

    The latter will happen. Fifa would never let EA make this game an 18+.

    FIFA can be 3 but ultimate team an 18
  • gregsii
    992 posts Professional
    Also this is steadily going up, 45000 now
  • gregsii
    992 posts Professional
    Not sure if anyone has seen but the government has responded to the petition. Looks very promising indeed. See below:

    Over half the UK population plays games, the vast majority engaging safely with content that allows them to enjoy fun, exciting play, find moments of relaxation, socialise, and learn new skills. However, technology in video games is constantly evolving and it is important that government policy reflects this.

    We also believe the approach to protecting young people and vulnerable people should be based on evidence. To guide this approach, it will be important to understand fully the existing research around loot boxes, and how current protections and legislation work to keep people safe. That is why on the 8th June 2020 the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport announced in a written statement to Parliament that we will be launching an open call for evidence on loot boxes later on in the summer. This will also support the review of the Gambling Act 2005.

    The loot box call for evidence will seek and examine further information on a range of issues. These include concerns that loot boxes might lead to an increase in problem gambling, particularly amongst young people. Other areas we will investigate include the size of the loot box market, the design of loot boxes, how loot boxes work alongside other types of in-game purchases, and the effectiveness of the current statutory and voluntary regulation.

    In addition to a written call for evidence, we plan to hold a series of sessions to discuss issues and solutions in detail, including the most effective approaches to protect people from any harms identified. Full details of the call for evidence and how to respond will be announced shortly with initial findings expected by the end of the year.

    The government stands ready to take action should the outcomes of the call for evidence support taking a new approach to ensure users, and particularly young people, are protected.

    Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport
  • Theomanny
    1974 posts Fans' Favourite
    Absolutely well done guys. Atleast we got them to have a look
  • Gazmac_868
    250 posts Sunday League Hero
    gregsii wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has seen but the government has responded to the petition. Looks very promising indeed. See below:

    Over half the UK population plays games, the vast majority engaging safely with content that allows them to enjoy fun, exciting play, find moments of relaxation, socialise, and learn new skills. However, technology in video games is constantly evolving and it is important that government policy reflects this.

    We also believe the approach to protecting young people and vulnerable people should be based on evidence. To guide this approach, it will be important to understand fully the existing research around loot boxes, and how current protections and legislation work to keep people safe. That is why on the 8th June 2020 the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport announced in a written statement to Parliament that we will be launching an open call for evidence on loot boxes later on in the summer. This will also support the review of the Gambling Act 2005.

    The loot box call for evidence will seek and examine further information on a range of issues. These include concerns that loot boxes might lead to an increase in problem gambling, particularly amongst young people. Other areas we will investigate include the size of the loot box market, the design of loot boxes, how loot boxes work alongside other types of in-game purchases, and the effectiveness of the current statutory and voluntary regulation.

    In addition to a written call for evidence, we plan to hold a series of sessions to discuss issues and solutions in detail, including the most effective approaches to protect people from any harms identified. Full details of the call for evidence and how to respond will be announced shortly with initial findings expected by the end of the year.

    The government stands ready to take action should the outcomes of the call for evidence support taking a new approach to ensure users, and particularly young people, are protected.

    Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport

    How much more evidence do they need???
  • Clemster
    821 posts Semi-Pro
    Gazmac_868 wrote: »
    gregsii wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has seen but the government has responded to the petition. Looks very promising indeed. See below:

    Over half the UK population plays games, the vast majority engaging safely with content that allows them to enjoy fun, exciting play, find moments of relaxation, socialise, and learn new skills. However, technology in video games is constantly evolving and it is important that government policy reflects this.

    We also believe the approach to protecting young people and vulnerable people should be based on evidence. To guide this approach, it will be important to understand fully the existing research around loot boxes, and how current protections and legislation work to keep people safe. That is why on the 8th June 2020 the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport announced in a written statement to Parliament that we will be launching an open call for evidence on loot boxes later on in the summer. This will also support the review of the Gambling Act 2005.

    The loot box call for evidence will seek and examine further information on a range of issues. These include concerns that loot boxes might lead to an increase in problem gambling, particularly amongst young people. Other areas we will investigate include the size of the loot box market, the design of loot boxes, how loot boxes work alongside other types of in-game purchases, and the effectiveness of the current statutory and voluntary regulation.

    In addition to a written call for evidence, we plan to hold a series of sessions to discuss issues and solutions in detail, including the most effective approaches to protect people from any harms identified. Full details of the call for evidence and how to respond will be announced shortly with initial findings expected by the end of the year.

    The government stands ready to take action should the outcomes of the call for evidence support taking a new approach to ensure users, and particularly young people, are protected.

    Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport

    How much more evidence do they need???

    There is no evidence isn't that what they are saying? That they are requesting it and investigating so they can make an informed decision. Seems sensible to me.
  • Gazmac_868
    250 posts Sunday League Hero
    Clemster wrote: »
    Gazmac_868 wrote: »
    gregsii wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has seen but the government has responded to the petition. Looks very promising indeed. See below:

    Over half the UK population plays games, the vast majority engaging safely with content that allows them to enjoy fun, exciting play, find moments of relaxation, socialise, and learn new skills. However, technology in video games is constantly evolving and it is important that government policy reflects this.

    We also believe the approach to protecting young people and vulnerable people should be based on evidence. To guide this approach, it will be important to understand fully the existing research around loot boxes, and how current protections and legislation work to keep people safe. That is why on the 8th June 2020 the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport announced in a written statement to Parliament that we will be launching an open call for evidence on loot boxes later on in the summer. This will also support the review of the Gambling Act 2005.

    The loot box call for evidence will seek and examine further information on a range of issues. These include concerns that loot boxes might lead to an increase in problem gambling, particularly amongst young people. Other areas we will investigate include the size of the loot box market, the design of loot boxes, how loot boxes work alongside other types of in-game purchases, and the effectiveness of the current statutory and voluntary regulation.

    In addition to a written call for evidence, we plan to hold a series of sessions to discuss issues and solutions in detail, including the most effective approaches to protect people from any harms identified. Full details of the call for evidence and how to respond will be announced shortly with initial findings expected by the end of the year.

    The government stands ready to take action should the outcomes of the call for evidence support taking a new approach to ensure users, and particularly young people, are protected.

    Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport

    How much more evidence do they need???

    There is no evidence isn't that what they are saying? That they are requesting it and investigating so they can make an informed decision. Seems sensible to me.

    EA employee
  • Clemster
    821 posts Semi-Pro
    Gazmac_868 wrote: »
    Clemster wrote: »
    Gazmac_868 wrote: »
    gregsii wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has seen but the government has responded to the petition. Looks very promising indeed. See below:

    Over half the UK population plays games, the vast majority engaging safely with content that allows them to enjoy fun, exciting play, find moments of relaxation, socialise, and learn new skills. However, technology in video games is constantly evolving and it is important that government policy reflects this.

    We also believe the approach to protecting young people and vulnerable people should be based on evidence. To guide this approach, it will be important to understand fully the existing research around loot boxes, and how current protections and legislation work to keep people safe. That is why on the 8th June 2020 the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport announced in a written statement to Parliament that we will be launching an open call for evidence on loot boxes later on in the summer. This will also support the gambling the Gambling Act 2005.

    The loot box call for evidence will seek and examine further information on a range of issues. These include concerns that loot boxes might lead to an increase in problem gambling, particularly amongst young people. Other areas we will investigate include the size of the loot box market, the design of loot boxes, how loot boxes work alongside other types of in-game purchases, and the effectiveness of the current statutory and voluntary regulation.

    In addition to a written call for evidence, we plan to hold a series of sessions to discuss issues and solutions in detail, including the most effective approaches to protect people from any harms identified. Full details of the call for evidence and how to respond will be announced shortly with initial findings expected by the end of the year.

    The government stands ready to take action should the outcomes of the call for evidence support taking a new approach to ensure users, and particularly young people, are protected.

    Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport

    How much more evidence do they need???

    There is no evidence isn't that what they are saying? That they are requesting it and investigating so they can make an informed decision. Seems sensible to me.

    EA employee

    Pro E employee
  • Clemster
    821 posts Semi-Pro
    I think it is a good they are looking at it. I am not convinced about it being a gambling issue yet. Am open to what they find though.
  • Gazmac_868
    250 posts Sunday League Hero
    Clemster wrote: »
    Gazmac_868 wrote: »
    Clemster wrote: »
    Gazmac_868 wrote: »
    gregsii wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has seen but the government has responded to the petition. Looks very promising indeed. See below:

    Over half the UK population plays games, the vast majority engaging safely with content that allows them to enjoy fun, exciting play, find moments of relaxation, socialise, and learn new skills. However, technology in video games is constantly evolving and it is important that government policy reflects this.

    We also believe the approach to protecting young people and vulnerable people should be based on evidence. To guide this approach, it will be important to understand fully the existing research around loot boxes, and how current protections and legislation work to keep people safe. That is why on the 8th June 2020 the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport announced in a written statement to Parliament that we will be launching an open call for evidence on loot boxes later on in the summer. This will also support the gambling the Gambling Act 2005.

    The loot box call for evidence will seek and examine further information on a range of issues. These include concerns that loot boxes might lead to an increase in problem gambling, particularly amongst young people. Other areas we will investigate include the size of the loot box market, the design of loot boxes, how loot boxes work alongside other types of in-game purchases, and the effectiveness of the current statutory and voluntary regulation.

    In addition to a written call for evidence, we plan to hold a series of sessions to discuss issues and solutions in detail, including the most effective approaches to protect people from any harms identified. Full details of the call for evidence and how to respond will be announced shortly with initial findings expected by the end of the year.

    The government stands ready to take action should the outcomes of the call for evidence support taking a new approach to ensure users, and particularly young people, are protected.

    Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport

    How much more evidence do they need???

    There is no evidence isn't that what they are saying? That they are requesting it and investigating so they can make an informed decision. Seems sensible to me.

    EA employee

    Pro E employee

    Pro evo has gambling loot boxes as well. They going down the same route as EA.
  • Clemster
    821 posts Semi-Pro
    I am not an EA employee. I am just saying it is good they are asking for more evidence and I am yet to be convinced. Yet you feel it necessary to make a sarky comment in an attempt to devalue my opinion. People talk about this community being toxic...
  • Gazmac_868
    250 posts Sunday League Hero
    Clemster wrote: »
    I am not an EA employee. I am just saying it is good they are asking for more evidence and I am yet to be convinced. Yet you feel it necessary to make a sarky comment in an attempt to devalue my opinion. People talk about this community being toxic...

    Well mate you are obviously happy with the state of the game and happy with children being introduced to gambling. There is a reason why governments are looking at this issue. Fair enough that you want to support EA that’s up to yourself
  • Chavez76
    6094 posts Big Money Move
    Gazmac_868 wrote: »
    Clemster wrote: »
    I am not an EA employee. I am just saying it is good they are asking for more evidence and I am yet to be convinced. Yet you feel it necessary to make a sarky comment in an attempt to devalue my opinion. People talk about this community being toxic...

    Well mate you are obviously happy with the state of the game and happy with children being introduced to gambling. There is a reason why governments are looking at this issue. Fair enough that you want to support EA that’s up to yourself

    either you cant read or you dont understand, or you are just being the toxic member of this forum. It's not always if someone not agrees with you that he is 'an EA employee' .
    He enver said he was happy with the state of the game, you are just making this up as you go. Makes you look stupid.
    And for the last part, he is litteraly saying he is a happy that goverment is looking at it... Dont even know what to say aboutthat part.
  • DFC1983
    1303 posts Professional
    As much as I really REALLY hope this will lead to something, I've got more expectation that EA will bung the Government to look the other way than anything be done about this. Fat cats like Andrew Wilson can't afford to lose this issue.
  • gregsii
    992 posts Professional
    DFC1983 wrote: »
    As much as I really REALLY hope this will lead to something, I've got more expectation that EA will bung the Government to look the other way than anything be done about this. Fat cats like Andrew Wilson can't afford to lose this issue.

    Init.
    UK government low on money after forking out for furlough and other schemes..

    In come EA, billions of dollars at the ready, here you go UK government have all your furlough money back.

    I know EA aren't that rich, but that would be funny.
  • DFC1983
    1303 posts Professional
    EA would probably offer Boris an Ultimate Pack to boost the UK finances in return.

    100% chance to pack £1+
    43% chance to pack £1,000+
    <1% chance to pack £1m+
    0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001 (<1) % chance to pack £1bn+
  • Smithy78
    102 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Just been on about loot boxes on radio 5live ,so its finally getting the attention in main stream media
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