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  • Sellish
    9376 posts League Winner
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
  • SDoofus
    5647 posts Big Money Move
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..

    Do you remember when @Retro_G said Perisic was the final piece of the jigsaw, and that the failure to sign him was the reason United didn’t challenge City?
  • wth22
    10187 posts Has That Special Something
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
    When LvG came in we weren't in the CL. When LvG left we weren't in the CL. He got us to the CL one year where he got us knocked out in the groups.

    When Mourinho came in, we weren't in the CL. When he left, we were in the CL 2 years in a row and he progressed from the group both times.

    Mourinho also left the next manager with a better bunch than LvG's aging squad. Don't see how LvG left us in a better shape than Mourinho, and don't see how going from 6th to 12th is Ole taking us in the right direction.

    Martial for Perisic/Willian was always lazy journalism which was easy for the Mourinho hate crowd to lap up.
  • Ahmer50x
    19040 posts World Class
    wth22 wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
    When LvG came in we weren't in the CL. When LvG left we weren't in the CL. He got us to the CL one year where he got us knocked out in the groups.

    When Mourinho came in, we weren't in the CL. When he left, we were in the CL 2 years in a row and he progressed from the group both times.

    Mourinho also left the next manager with a better bunch than LvG's aging squad. Don't see how LvG left us in a better shape than Mourinho, and don't see how going from 6th to 12th is Ole taking us in the right direction.

    Martial for Perisic/Willian was always lazy journalism which was easy for the Mourinho hate crowd to lap up.

    Only aging signing LVG made was Schweini. Rest were Ferguson leftovers he was in the process of cycling out when he got sacked.

    A little different philosophy to Jose signing 4 pensioners in his time at the club and wanting more (Perisic) whether you're willing to accept it or not.
  • Ahmer50x
    19040 posts World Class
    edited October 12


    If Brexit FC is proving cost prohibitive, just stick Odegaard at 10 behind Haaland. Let Ole set up a little Norway :joy:
  • Tornado31619
    17341 posts World Class
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    wth22 wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
    When LvG came in we weren't in the CL. When LvG left we weren't in the CL. He got us to the CL one year where he got us knocked out in the groups.

    When Mourinho came in, we weren't in the CL. When he left, we were in the CL 2 years in a row and he progressed from the group both times.

    Mourinho also left the next manager with a better bunch than LvG's aging squad. Don't see how LvG left us in a better shape than Mourinho, and don't see how going from 6th to 12th is Ole taking us in the right direction.

    Martial for Perisic/Willian was always lazy journalism which was easy for the Mourinho hate crowd to lap up.

    Only aging signing LVG made was Schweini. Rest were Ferguson leftovers he was in the process of cycling out when he got sacked.

    A little different philosophy to Jose signing 4 pensioners in his time at the club and wanting more (Perisic) whether you're willing to accept it or not.

    You wouldn’t be calling Matić and Sánchez pensioners had they not declined as they have done. They were 29, still in their prime.

    The only pensioners that Jose signed were Zlatan and Grant, the latter of whom only having been brought in to retire and join the coaching staff.
  • wth22
    10187 posts Has That Special Something
    edited October 12
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    wth22 wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
    When LvG came in we weren't in the CL. When LvG left we weren't in the CL. He got us to the CL one year where he got us knocked out in the groups.

    When Mourinho came in, we weren't in the CL. When he left, we were in the CL 2 years in a row and he progressed from the group both times.

    Mourinho also left the next manager with a better bunch than LvG's aging squad. Don't see how LvG left us in a better shape than Mourinho, and don't see how going from 6th to 12th is Ole taking us in the right direction.

    Martial for Perisic/Willian was always lazy journalism which was easy for the Mourinho hate crowd to lap up.

    Only aging signing LVG made was Schweini. Rest were Ferguson leftovers he was in the process of cycling out when he got sacked.

    A little different philosophy to Jose signing 4 pensioners in his time at the club and wanting more (Perisic) whether you're willing to accept it or not.

    Age of Jose signings at the time of signing -
    Pogba - 23
    Mkhitaryan - 27
    Bailly - 22
    Ibrahimovic - 34
    Matic - 29
    Lukaku - 24
    Lindelof - 23
    Alexis - 29
    Fred - 25
    Dalot - 19

    Average age - 25.5 (excluded Grant as he was obviously signed hoping he would never make a matchday squad).

    He signed 1 player past his prime, 3 in their prime, then 5 players in their young 20s, few years to their prime and one teenager. Hardly pensioners overall.

    LvG -
    Di Maria - 26
    Shaw - 19
    Falcao - 28
    Herrera - 25
    Rojo - 25
    Blind - 25
    Martial - 19
    Schneiderlin - 26
    Depay - 21
    Darmian - 25
    Schweinsteiger - 31
    Romero - 28

    Average age - 24.83

    Literally a difference of 0.67 (or 0.96 if you exclude Romero), but why care about facts if they get in the way of a good narrative?
  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32012 posts National Team Captain
    Ahmer50x wrote: »


    If Brexit FC is proving cost prohibitive, just stick Odegaard at 10 behind Haaland. Let Ole set up a little Norway :joy:

    The only problem is dealing with RM. We'd get priced out/rinsed... even if we include Pogba imo just because it's RM.
  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32012 posts National Team Captain
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.
  • arsenalap
    5675 posts Big Money Move
    Ahmer50x wrote: »


    If Brexit FC is proving cost prohibitive, just stick Odegaard at 10 behind Haaland. Let Ole set up a little Norway :joy:

    The only problem is dealing with RM. We'd get priced out/rinsed... even if we include Pogba imo just because it's RM.

    If you include Pogba you definently wont be priced out.

    Might be wrong but I remember reading hes on loan at Sociadad for 2 seasons though.
  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32012 posts National Team Captain
    edited October 12
    arsenalap wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »


    If Brexit FC is proving cost prohibitive, just stick Odegaard at 10 behind Haaland. Let Ole set up a little Norway :joy:

    The only problem is dealing with RM. We'd get priced out/rinsed... even if we include Pogba imo just because it's RM.

    If you include Pogba you definently wont be priced out.

    Might be wrong but I remember reading hes on loan at Sociadad for 2 seasons though.

    I could still genuinely see them valuing Odegaard for a ridiculous amount even if we include Pogba.

    And it's RM have the option to extend his loan to Sociadad apparently for a 2nd year or recall him at any time.
  • arsenalap
    5675 posts Big Money Move
    Maddison spotted in a casino last night during the england game despite being Ill apparently.

    Odd one..
  • wth22
    10187 posts Has That Special Something
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.

    Yeah. Mourinho's best was way better than LvG. Mourinho's worst was arguably better than LvG's worst, and inarguably less boring, despite him being far from scintillating.
  • Sellish
    9376 posts League Winner
    edited October 13
    wth22 wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
    When LvG came in we weren't in the CL. When LvG left we weren't in the CL. He got us to the CL one year where he got us knocked out in the groups.

    When Mourinho came in, we weren't in the CL. When he left, we were in the CL 2 years in a row and he progressed from the group both times.

    Mourinho also left the next manager with a better bunch than LvG's aging squad. Don't see how LvG left us in a better shape than Mourinho, and don't see how going from 6th to 12th is Ole taking us in the right direction.

    Martial for Perisic/Willian was always lazy journalism which was easy for the Mourinho hate crowd to lap up.

    Would have been a disaster if not.
    Mourinho inheritage a much better squad then LvG did so ofcourse the team would become better.
    LvG had a more difficult job then Mourinho.


    LvG: Romero, Rojo, Shaw, Martial, Rashford

    Mourinho: Bailly, Lindelöf, Dalot, Pogba, Fred, Matic, McTominay

    These are the signings they made that's still here.
    Lingard is somewhere between them both and no one made Pereira any good.

    Rojo, Bailly, Dalot, Fred, Matic & probably Pogba doesn't have a future here.

    That leaves LvG with Romero, Shaw, Martial & Rashford.
    Mourinho with Lindelöf & McTominay. Hopefully I'm wrong with Dalot though.

    LvG left with a more aging squad because he had a more aging squad to begin with and Mourinho were lucky that the board didn't agree with replacing youths with elderly.
    Mourinho was all about winning something and not give 1 bit about the next coming years.

    LvG also signed Memphis who is a great player for Lyon now. Someone neither LvG or Mourinho could make it work with.
    And even if I hate to say it, both Di Maria and Herrera is doing well for PSG. Both LvG signings.
  • Sellish
    9376 posts League Winner
    wth22 wrote: »
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.

    Yeah. Mourinho's best was way better than LvG. Mourinho's worst was arguably better than LvG's worst, and inarguably less boring, despite him being far from scintillating.

    Mourinho was like a toxic 13 year old on a videogame.
    LvG was loved by the players even at the lowest.
  • Ahmer50x
    19040 posts World Class
    Sellish wrote: »
    wth22 wrote: »
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.

    Yeah. Mourinho's best was way better than LvG. Mourinho's worst was arguably better than LvG's worst, and inarguably less boring, despite him being far from scintillating.

    Mourinho was like a toxic 13 year old on a videogame.
    LvG was loved by the players even at the lowest.



    I still maintain the 6 games towards the end of the 2014-15 campaign is the best football United have played since Sir Alex retired.
  • Ahmer50x
    19040 posts World Class


    @Sellish just such a class character
  • wth22
    10187 posts Has That Special Something
    edited October 13
    Sellish wrote: »
    wth22 wrote: »
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.

    Yeah. Mourinho's best was way better than LvG. Mourinho's worst was arguably better than LvG's worst, and inarguably less boring, despite him being far from scintillating.

    Mourinho was like a toxic 13 year old on a videogame.
    LvG was loved by the players even at the lowest.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11855523/How-Man-Utd-stars-turned-on-Louis-van-Gaal-in-their-own-words.html

    That excludes Pereira, who said LvG blocked him from a loan move, promised he would get minutes and then gave him about 3 minutes, Januzaj as well, probably more, just a couple more off the top of my head.

    So many players publically hit out on van Gaal but again, why let facts get in the way of a convenient narrative, let's just peddle myths instead.
  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32012 posts National Team Captain
    edited October 13
    Sellish wrote: »
    wth22 wrote: »
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.

    Yeah. Mourinho's best was way better than LvG. Mourinho's worst was arguably better than LvG's worst, and inarguably less boring, despite him being far from scintillating.

    Mourinho was like a toxic 13 year old on a videogame.
    LvG was loved by the players even at the lowest.

    Like I said putting the toxicity aside and talking strictly the football and results.

    I'm siding with Mourinho in this debate and I despise the guy and was against his appointment the second we were linked with him .
  • wth22
    10187 posts Has That Special Something
    edited October 13
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    wth22 wrote: »
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.

    Yeah. Mourinho's best was way better than LvG. Mourinho's worst was arguably better than LvG's worst, and inarguably less boring, despite him being far from scintillating.

    Mourinho was like a toxic 13 year old on a videogame.
    LvG was loved by the players even at the lowest.



    I still maintain the 6 games towards the end of the 2014-15 campaign is the best football United have played since Sir Alex retired.

    The glorified hoofball when we had Mata, Fellaini and Young as our 3 behind the striker?

    Let's also not forget November and December 2015 which is the worst period we've had since Fergie.

    I've made no secret of my feelings about Ole but I'd give his appointment till Paris as the best football we've played since SAF.
  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32012 posts National Team Captain
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    wth22 wrote: »
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.

    Yeah. Mourinho's best was way better than LvG. Mourinho's worst was arguably better than LvG's worst, and inarguably less boring, despite him being far from scintillating.

    Mourinho was like a toxic 13 year old on a videogame.
    LvG was loved by the players even at the lowest.



    I still maintain the 6 games towards the end of the 2014-15 campaign is the best football United have played since Sir Alex retired.

    Like i said... you can pick and choose different periods between the two managers that were better than the other.
  • Low Ki
    11814 posts Has That Special Something
    I still remember van Gaal using spyware to make sure players watched the feedback videos he emailed out.Then they found out and would leave their phones playing in their cars while they went for runs.

    That's one of the sane stories. The other was "never shoot first time, always stop and control" which clearly cost us lots of games when teams defended deep.
  • Ahmer50x
    19040 posts World Class
    wth22 wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    wth22 wrote: »
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.

    Yeah. Mourinho's best was way better than LvG. Mourinho's worst was arguably better than LvG's worst, and inarguably less boring, despite him being far from scintillating.

    Mourinho was like a toxic 13 year old on a videogame.
    LvG was loved by the players even at the lowest.



    I still maintain the 6 games towards the end of the 2014-15 campaign is the best football United have played since Sir Alex retired.

    The glorified hoofball when we had Mata, Fellaini and Young as our 3 behind the striker?

    Let's also not forget November and December 2015 which is the worst period we've had since Fergie.

    I've made no secret of my feelings about Ole but I'd give his appointment till Paris as the best football we've played since SAF.

    Imagine being so subservient to Mourinho that you have to call Juanfield hoofball :joy:
  • Ahmer50x
    19040 posts World Class
    wth22 wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    wth22 wrote: »
    The problem with the whole Mourinho vs LVG debate is you could probably pick two different "phases" of them being in charge that you'd prefer to have had. Loves LVG's first year, but his second year was awful. Mourinho's first year was choppy, the second year at least for the most part outside of a few games in the 2nd half were great, and his 3rd year was bad.

    Toxicity aside, I'd probably rather have Mourinho back of the two. LVG's the only manager that had me actually begging for him to be sacked.

    Yeah. Mourinho's best was way better than LvG. Mourinho's worst was arguably better than LvG's worst, and inarguably less boring, despite him being far from scintillating.

    Mourinho was like a toxic 13 year old on a videogame.
    LvG was loved by the players even at the lowest.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11855523/How-Man-Utd-stars-turned-on-Louis-van-Gaal-in-their-own-words.html

    That excludes Pereira, who said LvG blocked him from a loan move, promised he would get minutes and then gave him about 3 minutes, Januzaj as well, probably more, just a couple more off the top of my head.

    So many players publically hit out on van Gaal but again, why let facts get in the way of a convenient narrative, let's just peddle myths instead.

    I think what @Sellish is getting at is that they didn’t down tools on him. Still played their best within the confines of the talent and his management regardless of their feelings.

    The squad quit on Mourinho.
  • Welbeck
    5176 posts Big Money Move
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
    relegation?

  • Keano
    13671 posts Has That Special Something
    Welbeck wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
    relegation?

    Pure class banter
  • Retro_G
    29710 posts Player of the Year
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..

    I've seen nothing this season that suggests Ole is moving in the right direction. He has gone backwards since he got the job full time.
  • Welbeck
    5176 posts Big Money Move
    Keano wrote: »
    Welbeck wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
    relegation?

    Pure class banter
    he's got you in 12th, 2 points off the relegation zone after United's worst start to a season in god knows how many years. You've scored a sum total of 9 goals, play awful football and Greenwood aside have involved no young players this season that look like they have any chance of making it at the highest level. My suggestion was based in a lot more grounding than Ole has you 'moving in the right direction'.
  • Tornado31619
    17341 posts World Class
    Alexis Sánchez dislocated the tendons in his ankle during the Columbia friendly.
  • Keano
    13671 posts Has That Special Something
    Welbeck wrote: »
    Keano wrote: »
    Welbeck wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    he was the most successful manager by far since fergie, i wonder how long he will keep that title

    if we keep searching for next fergie i fear the suffering will be long

    I still maintain I preferred Van Gaal, but I’m happy neither of them are at the club in 2019.

    Same. Mourinho left the club in a worst state (or atleast the same) after 3 years. LvG actually left it in much better shape then what it was when he came. Ole is moving towards the right direction.

    I swear if the Martial and Perisic swap would have happened..
    relegation?

    Pure class banter
    he's got you in 12th, 2 points off the relegation zone after United's worst start to a season in god knows how many years. You've scored a sum total of 9 goals, play awful football and Greenwood aside have involved no young players this season that look like they have any chance of making it at the highest level. My suggestion was based in a lot more grounding than Ole has you 'moving in the right direction'.

    He has to change the off the pitch stuff before the on the pitch will show properly, that and not replacing players properly has cost us with a small squad.
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