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  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32063 posts National Team Captain
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Honestly wouldn’t cry too much over 15m for Lukaku. 70m was the valuation most of us said we’d accept minimum.

    After all, we’re one of the richest clubs in the world right?

    Its high enough that we shouldn't stand in his way if Inter can't be reasoned with but low enough that we ought to atleast try and get more IMO

    Oh I’m not saying we shouldn’t necessarily try and get more...but I wouldn’t “hold out” until we get our money back.
  • Ahmer50x
    19257 posts World Class
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Honestly wouldn’t cry too much over 15m for Lukaku. 70m was the valuation most of us said we’d accept minimum.

    After all, we’re one of the richest clubs in the world right?

    Its high enough that we shouldn't stand in his way if Inter can't be reasoned with but low enough that we ought to atleast try and get more IMO

    Oh I’m not saying we shouldn’t necessarily try and get more...but I wouldn’t “hold out” until we get our money back.

    On this we agree.

    We don't need the money and I want to see as many of last season's flops sent packing as possible so anything in the ballpark is fine by me just to get these guys out of the club.
  • Keano
    13828 posts Has That Special Something
    Honestly wouldn’t cry too much over 15m for Lukaku. 70m was the valuation most of us said we’d accept minimum.

    After all, we’re one of the richest clubs in the world right?

    Oh totally, if it was 70m upfront then cool... but we're essentially losing a striker (be it aback up or not), for 2 years.. before we get even half of the sum. The point is that we're sayin gto them underpay us what we paid... & you can do it over aperiod of time, if we're helping them out, they should be atleast matching our valuation/what we paid, else we're just being stupidly nice about it all & letting them take us for a ride, if they want him that much they'll fork out the extra 10-15m over the two seasons.
  • Cyodine
    1638 posts Play-Off Hero
    Super Mario is a free agent, should try and sign him as a Lukaku backup.
  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32063 posts National Team Captain
    edited July 1
    Keano wrote: »
    Honestly wouldn’t cry too much over 15m for Lukaku. 70m was the valuation most of us said we’d accept minimum.

    After all, we’re one of the richest clubs in the world right?

    Oh totally, if it was 70m upfront then cool... but we're essentially losing a striker (be it aback up or not), for 2 years.. before we get even half of the sum. The point is that we're sayin gto them underpay us what we paid... & you can do it over aperiod of time, if we're helping them out, they should be atleast matching our valuation/what we paid, else we're just being stupidly nice about it all & letting them take us for a ride, if they want him that much they'll fork out the extra 10-15m over the two seasons.

    We’ve got enough money that whether we get the money now or later isn’t that big of a deal. There’s plenty of cheap ST options we can bring in and back up, nevermind that several have stated they are fine with Greenwood coming through and backing Rashford up. Then there’s Martial and Sanchez (who let’s face it, is looking very likely to be staying) who can play ST.

    So if we let Lukaku go, we’ll be ok.

    70m is a solid price for someone who’s currently appearing to be a back up in our system, with little to no composure contributing to his awful touch, let it be someone else’s problem.
  • Ahmer50x
    19257 posts World Class
    Keano wrote: »
    Honestly wouldn’t cry too much over 15m for Lukaku. 70m was the valuation most of us said we’d accept minimum.

    After all, we’re one of the richest clubs in the world right?

    Oh totally, if it was 70m upfront then cool... but we're essentially losing a striker (be it aback up or not), for 2 years.. before we get even half of the sum. The point is that we're sayin gto them underpay us what we paid... & you can do it over aperiod of time, if we're helping them out, they should be atleast matching our valuation/what we paid, else we're just being stupidly nice about it all & letting them take us for a ride, if they want him that much they'll fork out the extra 10-15m over the two seasons.

    We’ve got enough money that whether we get the money now or later isn’t that big of a deal. There’s plenty of cheap ST options we can bring in and back up, nevermind that several have stated they are fine with Greenwood coming through and backing Rashford up. Then there’s Martial and Sanchez (who let’s face it, is looking very likely to be staying) who can play ST.

    So if we let Lukaku go, we’ll be ok.

    70m is a solid price for someone who’s currently appearing to be a back up in our system, with little to no composure contributing to his awful touch, let it be someone else’s problem.

    More importantly his value will only decline if he spends all of next season as a sub. You’re not getting more later. This is it. We either have to use him or sell for the highest bid now
  • Ahmer50x
    19257 posts World Class



    Lukaku's handled this with real class. Wish him the best of luck at Inter. Model of how to leave a club on good terms IMO
  • Kman
    2946 posts Fans' Favourite
    Lukaku is a great striker imo, just terrible technical ability. With constant good service he should be banging in the goals.
  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32063 posts National Team Captain
    Kman wrote: »
    Lukaku is a great striker imo, just terrible technical ability. With constant good service he should be banging in the goals.

    Oh I don't think he's a bad striker, he's a goal scorer, just not one that suits us. If he's to play for a "big team", he's headed in the right direction with a Serie A team. I think he'll do very well there.

    As for the "constant good service" and as it applies to us, I know our service isn't always the greatest, but he's had his share of bottling several great chances with his composure while playing for us. I think even if we had consistently good service, he still wouldn't thrive with us consistently. He'll do well in the Serie A where they typically have a little more space.
  • Low Ki
    11825 posts Has That Special Something
    That's another one off the board and all signs point to De Ligt joining him:
  • Retro_G
    29880 posts National Team Captain
    Keano wrote: »
    Honestly wouldn’t cry too much over 15m for Lukaku. 70m was the valuation most of us said we’d accept minimum.

    After all, we’re one of the richest clubs in the world right?

    Oh totally, if it was 70m upfront then cool... but we're essentially losing a striker (be it aback up or not), for 2 years.. before we get even half of the sum. The point is that we're sayin gto them underpay us what we paid... & you can do it over aperiod of time, if we're helping them out, they should be atleast matching our valuation/what we paid, else we're just being stupidly nice about it all & letting them take us for a ride, if they want him that much they'll fork out the extra 10-15m over the two seasons.

    We’ve got enough money that whether we get the money now or later isn’t that big of a deal. There’s plenty of cheap ST options we can bring in and back up, nevermind that several have stated they are fine with Greenwood coming through and backing Rashford up. Then there’s Martial and Sanchez (who let’s face it, is looking very likely to be staying) who can play ST.

    So if we let Lukaku go, we’ll be ok.

    70m is a solid price for someone who’s currently appearing to be a back up in our system, with little to no composure contributing to his awful touch, let it be someone else’s problem.

    When you take inflation into account, €70m isn't a solid price. 48 goals in 81 appearances for Belgium, Rom will score a lot of goals when he gets the service. Lukaku had a higher shot conversion rate than Harry Kane during the 2017/2018 season.
  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32063 posts National Team Captain
    edited July 2
    Retro_G wrote: »
    Keano wrote: »
    Honestly wouldn’t cry too much over 15m for Lukaku. 70m was the valuation most of us said we’d accept minimum.

    After all, we’re one of the richest clubs in the world right?

    Oh totally, if it was 70m upfront then cool... but we're essentially losing a striker (be it aback up or not), for 2 years.. before we get even half of the sum. The point is that we're sayin gto them underpay us what we paid... & you can do it over aperiod of time, if we're helping them out, they should be atleast matching our valuation/what we paid, else we're just being stupidly nice about it all & letting them take us for a ride, if they want him that much they'll fork out the extra 10-15m over the two seasons.

    We’ve got enough money that whether we get the money now or later isn’t that big of a deal. There’s plenty of cheap ST options we can bring in and back up, nevermind that several have stated they are fine with Greenwood coming through and backing Rashford up. Then there’s Martial and Sanchez (who let’s face it, is looking very likely to be staying) who can play ST.

    So if we let Lukaku go, we’ll be ok.

    70m is a solid price for someone who’s currently appearing to be a back up in our system, with little to no composure contributing to his awful touch, let it be someone else’s problem.

    When you take inflation into account, €70m isn't a solid price. 48 goals in 81 appearances for Belgium, Rom will score a lot of goals when he gets the service. Lukaku had a higher shot conversion rate than Harry Kane during the 2017/2018 season.

    Lmao... but it is when you consider the fact that he's ultimately a bench player now in the current team he's in. His value will only drop the longer he remains a number 2 at the club as @Ahmer50x pointed out. His stats vs Harry Kane mean little when he spent half the season as a back up and appears to still be number 2 if he stays at the club

    Can hardly compare his Belguim performances with how he's played at United. Several examples of players that were FAR better at the INT level than at Club (Perisic and Robinho are two that spring to mind immediately).

    70m is a good amount given the circumstances. Haggle for more, but it’s moronic to make a huge deal over 15m, get him off the books, 70m is a great amount.
  • Apollo
    15805 posts World Class
    edited July 2
  • Retro_G
    29880 posts National Team Captain
    edited July 2
    Retro_G wrote: »
    Keano wrote: »
    Honestly wouldn’t cry too much over 15m for Lukaku. 70m was the valuation most of us said we’d accept minimum.

    After all, we’re one of the richest clubs in the world right?

    Oh totally, if it was 70m upfront then cool... but we're essentially losing a striker (be it aback up or not), for 2 years.. before we get even half of the sum. The point is that we're sayin gto them underpay us what we paid... & you can do it over aperiod of time, if we're helping them out, they should be atleast matching our valuation/what we paid, else we're just being stupidly nice about it all & letting them take us for a ride, if they want him that much they'll fork out the extra 10-15m over the two seasons.

    We’ve got enough money that whether we get the money now or later isn’t that big of a deal. There’s plenty of cheap ST options we can bring in and back up, nevermind that several have stated they are fine with Greenwood coming through and backing Rashford up. Then there’s Martial and Sanchez (who let’s face it, is looking very likely to be staying) who can play ST.

    So if we let Lukaku go, we’ll be ok.

    70m is a solid price for someone who’s currently appearing to be a back up in our system, with little to no composure contributing to his awful touch, let it be someone else’s problem.

    When you take inflation into account, €70m isn't a solid price. 48 goals in 81 appearances for Belgium, Rom will score a lot of goals when he gets the service. Lukaku had a higher shot conversion rate than Harry Kane during the 2017/2018 season.

    Lmao... but it is when you consider the fact that he's ultimately a bench player now in the current team he's in. His value will only drop the longer he remains a number 2 at the club as @Ahmer50x pointed out. His stats vs Harry Kane mean little when he spent half the season as a back up and appears to still be number 2 if he stays at the club

    Can hardly compare his Belguim performances with how he's played at United. Several examples of players that were FAR better at the INT level than at Club (Perisic and Robinho are two that spring to mind immediately).

    70m is a good amount given the circumstances. Haggle for more, but it’s moronic to make a huge deal over 15m, get him off the books, 70m is a great amount.

    Lukaku has 121 goals in 253 appearances for Premier League teams, that's a great return. He is an established striker who has always scored goals.

    Lukaku only went 26, even playing another season as a squad player for us wouldn't damage his value. It's not hard for any coach to see that he doesn't suit our system, but he will flourish under a different system, that's why Conte wants him at Inter.

    Taking less than what Lukaku is worth sets a bad precedent, other clubs will use that to their advantage.
  • TakeItSlow
    7578 posts League Winner
    Grant

    AWB
    Jones
    Smalling
    Shaw
    McTominay
    Longstaff
    Pogba
    Lingard
    Rashford
    James

    HashtagEnglishcore

  • Alex02
    2781 posts Fans' Favourite
    Ahmer50x wrote: »



    Lukaku's handled this with real class. Wish him the best of luck at Inter. Model of how to leave a club on good terms IMO
    I don’t think his comments about wanting to play in Italy were any better than Pogba’s comment about a new challenge
  • Apollo
    15805 posts World Class
    edited July 2


    If it's true, please don't go higher than that. I'm fine with signing him but £70m is high enough (and is too high anyway)
  • TakeItSlow
    7578 posts League Winner
    The English player premium is vile. 160m on Longstaff, James, Maguire and Wan Bissaka. Not sure if that's astute or terrible.
  • Apollo
    15805 posts World Class
    TakeItSlow wrote: »
    The English player premium is vile. 160m on Longstaff, James, Maguire and Wan Bissaka. Not sure if that's astute or terrible.

    You can't fairly compare the others to the Maguire signing. They're completely different circumstances and at different stages of their careers
  • TakeItSlow
    7578 posts League Winner
    Apollo wrote: »
    TakeItSlow wrote: »
    The English player premium is vile. 160m on Longstaff, James, Maguire and Wan Bissaka. Not sure if that's astute or terrible.

    You can't fairly compare the others to the Maguire signing. They're completely different circumstances and at different stages of their careers

    3 of them would be in your starting 11 though.
  • Sellish
    9423 posts League Winner
    If Maguire is worth 70, then Lukaku is worth the double.
    Maguire is worth half of that.
  • Apollo
    15805 posts World Class
    Sellish wrote: »
    If Maguire is worth 70, then Lukaku is worth the double.
    Maguire is worth half of that.

    Half is extreme, but certainly less than 70.
  • TakeItSlow
    7578 posts League Winner
    Sellish wrote: »
    If Maguire is worth 70, then Lukaku is worth the double.
    Maguire is worth half of that.

    How did you come to that conclusion? I don't think Mags is worth anywhere near 70m but he is a fairly good defender and an improvement on what you have. Lukaku is dire.
  • Shshj
    4230 posts National Call-Up
    This is the problem with trying to cherry-pick the best players from other PL clubs. Palace want £80m for Zaha, Bournemouth want £60m for Wilson, Diop for £60m etc.

    They're under no pressure to sell because their finances mean they don't have to.
  • Apollo
    15805 posts World Class


    @Ahmer50x

    Think it was you who rightly pointed out his lack of a testimonial announcement. Hopefully this report is right and he gets one, he deserves it.
  • Ahmer50x
    19257 posts World Class
    I don’t think Maguire is worth 70 either but if we’ve gone this high and he’s Ole’s top target, we should pay the extra 7-8m and get him on the plane.
  • Kman
    2946 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited July 2
    It’s a shame we haven’t been in for Felix. The more I see of this kid the more I think he could be better than Ronaldo just because he has that incredible vision/passing to his game as well as all the attributes that makes Ronaldo special (the physical side will come as it did with Ronaldo)

    If he goes to Atletico they can easily double their money in a few years if the time comes to sell.
  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32063 posts National Team Captain
    TakeItSlow wrote: »
    Sellish wrote: »
    If Maguire is worth 70, then Lukaku is worth the double.
    Maguire is worth half of that.

    How did you come to that conclusion? I don't think Mags is worth anywhere near 70m but he is a fairly good defender and an improvement on what you have. Lukaku is dire.

    Maguire is massively overrated because of his ball-playing ability. His defensive side is a very marginal improvement at best over Smalling.

  • XxRichiexRichxX
    32063 posts National Team Captain
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    I don’t think Maguire is worth 70 either but if we’ve gone this high and he’s Ole’s top target, we should pay the extra 7-8m and get him on the plane.

    You mean extra 20m
  • Apollo
    15805 posts World Class
    edited July 2


    Simon Stone confirming the reports of the offer are genuine.
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