How does Messi have 72 stamina?

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GT500
729 posts Semi-Pro
Do EA even watch the games? He plays nearly every game and keeps collecting the balm from midfield and driving towards goal until the final whistle.

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  • Ben
    4526 posts National Call-Up
    Base card should have around 90 stamina.
  • Professor
    2639 posts Fans' Favourite
    72 is pretty accurate. He strolls around most of the game and only sprints on his bursting runs.

    The problem is people dont use him like he plays in real life because most people track back with their attackers which drains stamina.
  • Ben
    4526 posts National Call-Up
    Strolls around most of the game???
  • freakjas
    9228 posts League Winner
    KinggHuss wrote: »
    GT500 wrote: »
    Do EA even watch the games? He plays nearly every game and keeps collecting the balm from midfield and driving towards goal until the final whistle.

    He actually walks about a lot....

    Exactly lol.
    He lasts a whole game but only cause like you said he walks a lot.
    Its not like he has amazing stamina and can sprint the whole game. 72 is accurate.
  • voisa
    132 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    i use his nif atm. he's on stay forward and contraceptive interceptions and never chase opponents player's back.
    he lasts for all the 90 mins
  • CfcBlue
    3808 posts National Call-Up
    You can’t use him in this game like he plays in real life because this isn’t a real game simulation. It’s because EA never liked Messi for business reasons. It’s obvious.
  • ILevis
    1300 posts Professional
    I feel 72 stamina is fair

    Im pretty sure Messi is one of the top players that runs the least amount each game

    Unfortunately this is not reflected in his workrates. He really should have medium/low workrates

    And also as the others already pointed out, if you play him the same way he does irl, you wont have a problem making him last 90 minutes. Its just a problem of people playing high pressure and ballchasing with their attackers all the time
  • KinggHuss
    2057 posts Fans' Favourite
    There was a study done in the states. Lebron James walked something like 30% more than the next most player in the nba. In return, he played the most minutes (this was a few years ago) and always had energy late in games. It’s very similar to what Messi does. He isn’t wasting energy. Yes. He walks around a lot. But he is actually being very smart and using his energy in places where it’s needed and not needlessly running around. This if great athletes, that aren’t in their early 20’s anymore using intelligence and savvy to make sure they have their burst when they need it.

    Precisely. Very well put....
  • CfcBlue
    3808 posts National Call-Up
    Pirlo did the same.
  • FCBlunt
    3123 posts National Call-Up
    He’s smart like that.

    Valverde said he walks around analyzing the opposition defence. So he knows exactly where to be and what places to exploit.

    And he’s older now and needs to conserve energy as others mentioned too. I’m amazed by the work Suarez puts in on his aging knees, but Messi doesn’t seem to bother much.
  • mway
    1896 posts Play-Off Hero
    edited April 2019
    FCBlunt wrote: »
    Valverde said he walks around analyzing the opposition defence. So he knows exactly where to be and what places to exploit.

    In this game, no player would do that. In FIFA 19 Messi crashes against the defender back so .... :D
  • Best players in the world do not need to sprint all game, Messi possibly the best player ever to grace the game is clever and uses his stamina well, 72 stamina is fine for him
  • GT500
    729 posts Semi-Pro
    FCBlunt wrote: »
    He’s smart like that.

    Valverde said he walks around analyzing the opposition defence. So he knows exactly where to be and what places to exploit.

    And he’s older now and needs to conserve energy as others mentioned too. I’m amazed by the work Suarez puts in on his aging knees, but Messi doesn’t seem to bother much.

    He said Messi does that for the first few minutes of the game to analyze his opponent so they shouldn’t be taken into account regarding stamina.
  • GT500
    729 posts Semi-Pro
    freakjas wrote: »
    KinggHuss wrote: »
    GT500 wrote: »
    Do EA even watch the games? He plays nearly every game and keeps collecting the balm from midfield and driving towards goal until the final whistle.

    He actually walks about a lot....

    Exactly lol.
    He lasts a whole game but only cause like you said he walks a lot.
    Its not like he has amazing stamina and can sprint the whole game. 72 is accurate.


    Did you see him during the Man U game today? He was running the whole time.
  • mway
    1896 posts Play-Off Hero
    edited April 2019
    Because people that do this game knows nothing about football. You didn´t notice that yet ?
    Anyway what´s the problem ? If players with no stamina continue running like they were plenty of it ? Don´t worry. Press the 90 minutes. You will suffer only 5 minutes.
  • lIlIlIlIlIl
    4717 posts National Call-Up
    CfcBlue wrote: »
    Pirlo did the same.

    Ibra too.
  • Boommaametw3
    2875 posts National Call-Up
    @KinggHuss @freakjas you guys are either cr7 fans or madrid fans.
    If Messi justs "walks arounds a lot" then Ronaldo from 2016 should have 60 stamina. He doesn't start counter attacks,leads attacks etc anymore. He is always ready in the box waiting for a cross or a pass. Does nothing on defense either too. Shows you why he has H/L work rates. His team play 10v11 without the ball.

    You have to understand that Barca has more possesion than 99% of their opponents. And Messi always drop backs to lead every attack. His goals and assists proves he is involved in most goals. He always wants the ball. Busquests,Suarez has 85+ stamina but Messi has 72. Makes no sense.
  • RadioShaq
    16046 posts Moderator
    He walks most games. Which doesn’t really translate in game. He should probably have lower stamina.
  • Dis_Play
    318 posts Sunday League Hero
    EA gave him stamina looking at his playing style in real life, you'll be dead if you try to do that in game.
  • Gnomenclature
    5915 posts Big Money Move
    KinggHuss wrote: »
    GT500 wrote: »
    Do EA even watch the games? He plays nearly every game and keeps collecting the balm from midfield and driving towards goal until the final whistle.

    He actually walks about a lot....

    Almost all strikers do to be fair.... ibra (irl) is the master of doing nothing at all until its time to score. Suarez? That guy basically stands around drinking tea until the ball comes his way.
  • Carlos181
    4082 posts National Call-Up
    KinggHuss wrote: »
    GT500 wrote: »
    Do EA even watch the games? He plays nearly every game and keeps collecting the balm from midfield and driving towards goal until the final whistle.

    He actually walks about a lot....

    Almost all strikers do to be fair.... ibra (irl) is the master of doing nothing at all until its time to score. Suarez? That guy basically stands around drinking tea until the ball comes his way.

    Huh??? Suarez is always pressuring the opponents GK, Backline, midfield. If anything he’s the most active player on Barca. And, he’s doing it on bad knees.
  • humping_klown
    969 posts Professional
    KinggHuss wrote: »
    GT500 wrote: »
    Do EA even watch the games? He plays nearly every game and keeps collecting the balm from midfield and driving towards goal until the final whistle.

    He actually walks about a lot....

    Almost all strikers do to be fair.... ibra (irl) is the master of doing nothing at all until its time to score. Suarez? That guy basically stands around drinking tea until the ball comes his way.

    Berbatov was the worst culprit closely followed by balotelli . Le tissier was famous for his lack of work rate .

    Luis Suarez was THE hardest working player in world football before he joined barca . He now doesn't have to play like he did due to his team having most of the ball and he ends up with no one and no lost causes to chase .
  • Gnomenclature
    5915 posts Big Money Move
    Carlos181 wrote: »
    KinggHuss wrote: »
    GT500 wrote: »
    Do EA even watch the games? He plays nearly every game and keeps collecting the balm from midfield and driving towards goal until the final whistle.

    He actually walks about a lot....

    Almost all strikers do to be fair.... ibra (irl) is the master of doing nothing at all until its time to score. Suarez? That guy basically stands around drinking tea until the ball comes his way.

    Huh??? Suarez is always pressuring the opponents GK, Backline, midfield. If anything he’s the most active player on Barca. And, he’s doing it on bad knees.

    Not at barca... at Liverpool? Yeah, massive workrates. I wasn't dissing the guy, he just doesn't seem like the old Suarez to me. Keep in mind we don't get la liga games in the states (unless you buy Spanish stations). I only see a couple barca games a year in the champions league.
  • Kove
    4393 posts National Call-Up
    It's accurate. . He is an intelligent attacker and his game relies on knowing where to be and then being brilliant when he gets even the most miniscule chance.

    He is not a box to box midfielder, he does not charge around the field. He doesn't need to.
  • KinggHuss
    2057 posts Fans' Favourite
    @KinggHuss @freakjas you guys are either cr7 fans or madrid fans.
    If Messi justs "walks arounds a lot" then Ronaldo from 2016 should have 60 stamina. He doesn't start counter attacks,leads attacks etc anymore. He is always ready in the box waiting for a cross or a pass. Does nothing on defense either too. Shows you why he has H/L work rates. His team play 10v11 without the ball.

    You have to understand that Barca has more possesion than 99% of their opponents. And Messi always drop backs to lead every attack. His goals and assists proves he is involved in most goals. He always wants the ball. Busquests,Suarez has 85+ stamina but Messi has 72. Makes no sense.

    @Boommaametw3 Im actually a big Messi fan.... The greatest to ever grace the game. That doesn't change facts though. I watch Messi play every week (every time he plays) and I can tell you he's very conservative with his energy just as @Pocketsquareguy said.... TBH we can't really tell if he has stamina in the 70's, 80's or 90's because he doesn't really put in that much work.... of course he does the occasional track back to defense, and sets up most plays from the final third, but he makes for it by walking about 70% of the remaining time.... I urge you to watch Messi closely when he plays. Just keep an eye on him when he doesn't have the ball. He could have high stamina, but he certainly loves to keep fresh for those sudden small bursts that tear defenses apart.
    KinggHuss wrote: »
    GT500 wrote: »
    Do EA even watch the games? He plays nearly every game and keeps collecting the balm from midfield and driving towards goal until the final whistle.

    He actually walks about a lot....

    Almost all strikers do to be fair.... ibra (irl) is the master of doing nothing at all until its time to score. Suarez? That guy basically stands around drinking tea until the ball comes his way.

    @Gnomenclature you obviously haven't watched Suarez play as of late..... He definitely has a high work rate. More than any player in Barca's attack, always pressuring GK's and defenses. You can actually see him pointing out and telling Messi to pressure someone with him and Messi doesn't even bother and it pisses Suarez off :D
  • the_bad_seeds_fc
    582 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Kove wrote: »
    It's accurate. . He is an intelligent attacker and his game relies on knowing where to be and then being brilliant when he gets even the most miniscule chance.

    He is not a box to box midfielder, he does not charge around the field. He doesn't need to.

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