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  • Ashy
    8284 posts League Winner
    edited February 7
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Ashy wrote: »
    Liverpool and City are miles ahead of us
    Man Utd will spend big and are better than us without Mourinho
    Spurs are better than us, way more balance and dont need to spend to remain in the top 4
    Chelsea will surely spend big and are in a similar situation to us squad wise, they can sell hazard and reinvest and have an owner who invests

    We need to get really lucky with transfers which is very unlikely with the recent departure or we need a manager that can get the very best out of our current players but under Emery u cant see that

    I'm sorry, who exactly (other than Ozil obviously) is Emery failing to get the best out of?

    I'd say Mkhitaryan, Iwobi (although he has improved), Ramsey, Xhaka, Maitland Niles and he doesn't know how to use Aubameyang and Lacazette together effectively

    But the squad itself is only good enough to scrape top 4 even if he gets the best out of them, going to take at least another 6 transfers windows to get a title challenging squad, hopefully Pep has left by then
  • G000ner
    3653 posts National Call-Up
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
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    ^Unai Emery, seen at his meeting with Stan Kroenke this summer

    According to Ornstein, it could be closer to 100million, including salaries. That could be higher depending on whether we qualify for the Champions League or lower if it's Europa. Articles from the Daily Mail and John Cross should never be trusted

    http://dailycannon.com/2019/02/david-ornstein-ive-been-told-arsenals-summer-budget-could-be-around-100m/

    100m including salaries is basically like saying ~80M.

    You can probably grab 3-4 Torriera/Guendouzi style signings for that and just hope they hit as well as the first two did. If one or two don't, you're ****.

    United and Chelsea both gearing up to spend a load this summer while City/Liverpool/Spurs are already far ahead of you.

    Without Mislintat, we don't have a chance of making any Torreira/Guendouzi type signings, unfortunately. We need a right back, winger, and centre back at least, in addition to Denis Suarez taking away from £15m of the budget. Then we need right back cover for Bellerin- hopefully costing no more than £10m. Leaves us with let's say £60m ish to spend on a winger and centre back. Not impossible to significantly improve our squad with that money. We don't even have to make particularly good transfers to improve on the likes of Iwobi and Mustafi

    Things would definitely be a lot easier if Kroenke was willing to invest a penny of his own money

    I genuinely feel bad for Unai Emery.

    Poor guy has been tasked with taking you back to the top 4 while the clubs already ahead of you outspend you 2:1.

    Like, all indications are that United want Koulibaly in the summer. Him alone would basically cost the same as your entire summer budget and somehow Emery is supposed to keep you competitive.

    We can just about remain competitive, as we have a good enough squad to at least challenge the top 4. We won't come close to winning the league for a long time, though.

    Can you though? You're 10 pts or more off each of the top 3 by February. I'd argue that the only reason you're competitive is that United had their worst start in Premier League history. If we'd been anywhere near normal this year under Mourinho, you'd be ~10 pts off us too.

    I'm just imagining February 2020, where you're 10 pts off top 4 and the fans are saying its time for Emery to go, even though it will not be his fault in any way that you're there.

    You've been pretty abnormal under your new manager though. This run won't last forever. Every team goes through streaks of good and bad form, even without changing manager. Chelsea are perfect examples of that. It's not like all of the top 4 will get 80 points every season. With our current ppg, we're on track to get 70~ points. That has been enough to challenge the top 4 every season until now.

    We're definitely in the worst position out of the top 6 right now, but it's not like it's unrecoverable. People are overstating how far off we are.
  • SDoofus
    3821 posts National Call-Up
    edited February 7
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »


    tenor.gif?itemid=7331148
    ^Unai Emery, seen at his meeting with Stan Kroenke this summer

    According to Ornstein, it could be closer to 100million, including salaries. That could be higher depending on whether we qualify for the Champions League or lower if it's Europa. Articles from the Daily Mail and John Cross should never be trusted

    http://dailycannon.com/2019/02/david-ornstein-ive-been-told-arsenals-summer-budget-could-be-around-100m/

    100m including salaries is basically like saying ~80M.

    You can probably grab 3-4 Torriera/Guendouzi style signings for that and just hope they hit as well as the first two did. If one or two don't, you're ****.

    United and Chelsea both gearing up to spend a load this summer while City/Liverpool/Spurs are already far ahead of you.

    Without Mislintat, we don't have a chance of making any Torreira/Guendouzi type signings, unfortunately. We need a right back, winger, and centre back at least, in addition to Denis Suarez taking away from £15m of the budget. Then we need right back cover for Bellerin- hopefully costing no more than £10m. Leaves us with let's say £60m ish to spend on a winger and centre back. Not impossible to significantly improve our squad with that money. We don't even have to make particularly good transfers to improve on the likes of Iwobi and Mustafi

    Things would definitely be a lot easier if Kroenke was willing to invest a penny of his own money

    I genuinely feel bad for Unai Emery.

    Poor guy has been tasked with taking you back to the top 4 while the clubs already ahead of you outspend you 2:1.

    Like, all indications are that United want Koulibaly in the summer. Him alone would basically cost the same as your entire summer budget and somehow Emery is supposed to keep you competitive.

    We can just about remain competitive, as we have a good enough squad to at least challenge the top 4. We won't come close to winning the league for a long time, though.

    Can you though? You're 10 pts or more off each of the top 3 by February. I'd argue that the only reason you're competitive is that United had their worst start in Premier League history. If we'd been anywhere near normal this year under Mourinho, you'd be ~10 pts off us too.

    I'm just imagining February 2020, where you're 10 pts off top 4 and the fans are saying its time for Emery to go, even though it will not be his fault in any way that you're there.

    You've been pretty abnormal under your new manager though. This run won't last forever. Every team goes through streaks of good and bad form, even without changing manager. Chelsea are perfect examples of that. It's not like all of the top 4 will get 80 points every season. With our current ppg, we're on track to get 70~ points. That has been enough to challenge the top 4 every season until now.

    We're definitely in the worst position out of the top 6 right now, but it's not like it's unrecoverable. People are overstating how far off we are.

    Agreed. The only reason they've propelled close to top 4 is because they've literally had title winning form since Ole came in. That is not sustainable.

    They all think this is the normal United now though lol. That this is how it will be from now on. The bubble will undoubtedly burst soon.
  • Ahmer50x
    11539 posts Has That Special Something
    SDoofus wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »


    tenor.gif?itemid=7331148
    ^Unai Emery, seen at his meeting with Stan Kroenke this summer

    According to Ornstein, it could be closer to 100million, including salaries. That could be higher depending on whether we qualify for the Champions League or lower if it's Europa. Articles from the Daily Mail and John Cross should never be trusted

    http://dailycannon.com/2019/02/david-ornstein-ive-been-told-arsenals-summer-budget-could-be-around-100m/

    100m including salaries is basically like saying ~80M.

    You can probably grab 3-4 Torriera/Guendouzi style signings for that and just hope they hit as well as the first two did. If one or two don't, you're ****.

    United and Chelsea both gearing up to spend a load this summer while City/Liverpool/Spurs are already far ahead of you.

    Without Mislintat, we don't have a chance of making any Torreira/Guendouzi type signings, unfortunately. We need a right back, winger, and centre back at least, in addition to Denis Suarez taking away from £15m of the budget. Then we need right back cover for Bellerin- hopefully costing no more than £10m. Leaves us with let's say £60m ish to spend on a winger and centre back. Not impossible to significantly improve our squad with that money. We don't even have to make particularly good transfers to improve on the likes of Iwobi and Mustafi

    Things would definitely be a lot easier if Kroenke was willing to invest a penny of his own money

    I genuinely feel bad for Unai Emery.

    Poor guy has been tasked with taking you back to the top 4 while the clubs already ahead of you outspend you 2:1.

    Like, all indications are that United want Koulibaly in the summer. Him alone would basically cost the same as your entire summer budget and somehow Emery is supposed to keep you competitive.

    We can just about remain competitive, as we have a good enough squad to at least challenge the top 4. We won't come close to winning the league for a long time, though.

    Can you though? You're 10 pts or more off each of the top 3 by February. I'd argue that the only reason you're competitive is that United had their worst start in Premier League history. If we'd been anywhere near normal this year under Mourinho, you'd be ~10 pts off us too.

    I'm just imagining February 2020, where you're 10 pts off top 4 and the fans are saying its time for Emery to go, even though it will not be his fault in any way that you're there.

    You've been pretty abnormal under your new manager though. This run won't last forever. Every team goes through streaks of good and bad form, even without changing manager. Chelsea are perfect examples of that. It's not like all of the top 4 will get 80 points every season. With our current ppg, we're on track to get 70~ points. That has been enough to challenge the top 4 every season until now.

    We're definitely in the worst position out of the top 6 right now, but it's not like it's unrecoverable. People are overstating how far off we are.

    Agreed. The only reason they've propelled close to top 4 is because they've literally had title winning form since Ole came in. That is not sustainable.

    They all think this is the normal United now though lol. That this is how it will be from now on. The bubble will undoubtedly burst soon.

    Mate, we're obviously on a bit of a unicorn run. Having said that, this squad finished second on 81 pts playing Mourinho-ball last season. I firmly believe this squad should be scoring 80+ pts in any normal season.

    At their current pace, Arsenal are projected to finish on about 71 points. That would be about 10 pts behind what I expect from this United squad normally, which was my point the entire time.
  • SDoofus
    3821 posts National Call-Up
    edited February 7
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    SDoofus wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »


    tenor.gif?itemid=7331148
    ^Unai Emery, seen at his meeting with Stan Kroenke this summer

    According to Ornstein, it could be closer to 100million, including salaries. That could be higher depending on whether we qualify for the Champions League or lower if it's Europa. Articles from the Daily Mail and John Cross should never be trusted

    http://dailycannon.com/2019/02/david-ornstein-ive-been-told-arsenals-summer-budget-could-be-around-100m/

    100m including salaries is basically like saying ~80M.

    You can probably grab 3-4 Torriera/Guendouzi style signings for that and just hope they hit as well as the first two did. If one or two don't, you're ****.

    United and Chelsea both gearing up to spend a load this summer while City/Liverpool/Spurs are already far ahead of you.

    Without Mislintat, we don't have a chance of making any Torreira/Guendouzi type signings, unfortunately. We need a right back, winger, and centre back at least, in addition to Denis Suarez taking away from £15m of the budget. Then we need right back cover for Bellerin- hopefully costing no more than £10m. Leaves us with let's say £60m ish to spend on a winger and centre back. Not impossible to significantly improve our squad with that money. We don't even have to make particularly good transfers to improve on the likes of Iwobi and Mustafi

    Things would definitely be a lot easier if Kroenke was willing to invest a penny of his own money

    I genuinely feel bad for Unai Emery.

    Poor guy has been tasked with taking you back to the top 4 while the clubs already ahead of you outspend you 2:1.

    Like, all indications are that United want Koulibaly in the summer. Him alone would basically cost the same as your entire summer budget and somehow Emery is supposed to keep you competitive.

    We can just about remain competitive, as we have a good enough squad to at least challenge the top 4. We won't come close to winning the league for a long time, though.

    Can you though? You're 10 pts or more off each of the top 3 by February. I'd argue that the only reason you're competitive is that United had their worst start in Premier League history. If we'd been anywhere near normal this year under Mourinho, you'd be ~10 pts off us too.

    I'm just imagining February 2020, where you're 10 pts off top 4 and the fans are saying its time for Emery to go, even though it will not be his fault in any way that you're there.

    You've been pretty abnormal under your new manager though. This run won't last forever. Every team goes through streaks of good and bad form, even without changing manager. Chelsea are perfect examples of that. It's not like all of the top 4 will get 80 points every season. With our current ppg, we're on track to get 70~ points. That has been enough to challenge the top 4 every season until now.

    We're definitely in the worst position out of the top 6 right now, but it's not like it's unrecoverable. People are overstating how far off we are.

    Agreed. The only reason they've propelled close to top 4 is because they've literally had title winning form since Ole came in. That is not sustainable.

    They all think this is the normal United now though lol. That this is how it will be from now on. The bubble will undoubtedly burst soon.

    Mate, we're obviously on a bit of a unicorn run. Having said that, this squad finished second on 81 pts playing Mourinho-ball last season. I firmly believe this squad should be scoring 80+ pts in any normal season.

    At their current pace, Arsenal are projected to finish on about 71 points. That would be about 10 pts behind what I expect from this United squad normally, which was my point the entire time.

    United were getting unreal levels of luck last season, with various things helping you, on top of DDG having his most freakish season ever. There was a study on it too and you should have been 4th.

    Edit:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45087444
  • Ahmer50x
    11539 posts Has That Special Something
    edited February 7
    SDoofus wrote: »
    United were getting unreal levels of luck last season, with various things helping you, on top of DDG having his most freakish season ever. There was a study on it too and you should have been 4th.

    Edit:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45087444

    As someone once said:
    SDoofus wrote: »
    Here’s a link to the real, and only relevant table:

    https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/premier-league/2017-18/table.html

    (since we're talking about last season)
  • G000ner
    3653 posts National Call-Up
    edited February 10
    If we actually finish top 4 after how bad we've played pretty much every game, it will be hilarious
  • Tornado31619
    13483 posts Has That Special Something
    Ramsey has signed his Juve contract.
  • Ahmer50x
    11539 posts Has That Special Something
    edited February 11


    Wages are absolutely mental. Don't blame Arsenal for not paying that.

    That makes him the 9th highest paid player in the world ahead of Mbappe and knocks Ozil out of the top 10 :lol:
  • Adrian095
    33654 posts National Team Captain
    Juventus players are going to be demanding pay rises :D
  • Ahmer50x
    11539 posts Has That Special Something
    edited February 11
    11 Highest Paid Players in the World (monthly)
    1. Lionel Messi - €8.3m
    2. Cristiano Ronaldo - €4.7m
    3. Antoine Griezmann - €3.3m
    4. Neymar - €3.0m
    5. Luis Suarez - €2.9m
    6. Gareth Bale - €2.5m
    7. Philippe Coutinho - €2.3m
    8. Alexis Sanchez - €2.3m
    9. Aaron Ramsey - €2.0m (Juventus wages)
    10. Kylian Mbappe - €1.7m
    11. Mesut Ozil - €1.6m

    You'd have to say about half of those are presently stealing a living.

    IMO Bale, Coutinho, Sanchez, Ramsey, and Ozil don't deserve to be anywhere near that list.
  • ViVaWhom
    6577 posts Big Money Move
    is that Juve contract Ramsey?? if not how the **** is he so close to sanchez and ahead of Ozil
  • Ahmer50x
    11539 posts Has That Special Something
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    is that Juve contract Ramsey?? if not how the **** is he so close to sanchez and ahead of Ozil

    Yeah, that's his Juve contract.
  • Shshj
    2106 posts Fans' Favourite
    400k!?

    **** hell, that's ridiculous money for a player of Ramsey's quality.
  • AEsey
    5786 posts Big Money Move
    He will have said as its a free transfer they aren't paying any money for him so he wants more wages
    That's the same thing fellaini was trying to do in the summer with us as he was searching Europe lmao
  • Mike
    9090 posts League Winner
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    11 Highest Paid Players in the World (monthly)
    1. Lionel Messi - €8.3m
    2. Cristiano Ronaldo - €4.7m
    3. Antoine Griezmann - €3.3m
    4. Neymar - €3.0m
    5. Luis Suarez - €2.9m
    6. Gareth Bale - €2.5m
    7. Philippe Coutinho - €2.3m
    8. Alexis Sanchez - €2.3m
    9. Aaron Ramsey - €2.0m (Juventus wages)
    10. Kylian Mbappe - €1.7m
    11. Mesut Ozil - €1.6m

    You'd have to say about half of those are presently stealing a living.

    IMO Bale, Coutinho, Sanchez, Ramsey, and Ozil don't deserve to be anywhere near that list.
    Look at what Bale has done at Madrid and tell me that he doesn’t deserve that wage
  • AEsey
    5786 posts Big Money Move
    Mike wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    11 Highest Paid Players in the World (monthly)
    1. Lionel Messi - €8.3m
    2. Cristiano Ronaldo - €4.7m
    3. Antoine Griezmann - €3.3m
    4. Neymar - €3.0m
    5. Luis Suarez - €2.9m
    6. Gareth Bale - €2.5m
    7. Philippe Coutinho - €2.3m
    8. Alexis Sanchez - €2.3m
    9. Aaron Ramsey - €2.0m (Juventus wages)
    10. Kylian Mbappe - €1.7m
    11. Mesut Ozil - €1.6m

    You'd have to say about half of those are presently stealing a living.

    IMO Bale, Coutinho, Sanchez, Ramsey, and Ozil don't deserve to be anywhere near that list.
    Look at what Bale has done at Madrid and tell me that he doesn’t deserve that wage

    Used up all of the medical facilities
    :D :D :D
  • Ahmer50x
    11539 posts Has That Special Something
    edited February 11
    Mike wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    11 Highest Paid Players in the World (monthly)
    1. Lionel Messi - €8.3m
    2. Cristiano Ronaldo - €4.7m
    3. Antoine Griezmann - €3.3m
    4. Neymar - €3.0m
    5. Luis Suarez - €2.9m
    6. Gareth Bale - €2.5m
    7. Philippe Coutinho - €2.3m
    8. Alexis Sanchez - €2.3m
    9. Aaron Ramsey - €2.0m (Juventus wages)
    10. Kylian Mbappe - €1.7m
    11. Mesut Ozil - €1.6m

    You'd have to say about half of those are presently stealing a living.

    IMO Bale, Coutinho, Sanchez, Ramsey, and Ozil don't deserve to be anywhere near that list.
    Look at what Bale has done at Madrid and tell me that he doesn’t deserve that wage

    He won a bunch of trophies riding on Ronaldo's coattails.

    His individual numbers have not been that good given he plays against pub league defending in La Liga.

    Plus, he's always injured.
  • ViVaWhom
    6577 posts Big Money Move
    i dont know... he was a huge factor in 2 of their CL wins
  • Tornado31619
    13483 posts Has That Special Something
    Mike wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    11 Highest Paid Players in the World (monthly)
    1. Lionel Messi - €8.3m
    2. Cristiano Ronaldo - €4.7m
    3. Antoine Griezmann - €3.3m
    4. Neymar - €3.0m
    5. Luis Suarez - €2.9m
    6. Gareth Bale - €2.5m
    7. Philippe Coutinho - €2.3m
    8. Alexis Sanchez - €2.3m
    9. Aaron Ramsey - €2.0m (Juventus wages)
    10. Kylian Mbappe - €1.7m
    11. Mesut Ozil - €1.6m

    You'd have to say about half of those are presently stealing a living.

    IMO Bale, Coutinho, Sanchez, Ramsey, and Ozil don't deserve to be anywhere near that list.
    Look at what Bale has done at Madrid and tell me that he doesn’t deserve that wage

    This. Ahmer’s right about the other four, though.
  • Adrian095
    33654 posts National Team Captain
    ViVaWhom wrote: »
    i dont know... he was a huge factor in 2 of their CL wins

  • Apollo
    7858 posts League Winner
    That didn't take long :D
  • G000ner
    3653 posts National Call-Up
    edited February 28
    Great performance yesterday. We have so many attacking options right now, and most of them are playing well. Makes the team selection for the derby very difficult. Ozil was great, but realistically I don't see him starting in a game that will demand a high intensity.

    If we stick with a 343 I see us playing a front 3 of Iwobi-Laca/Auba-Mkhi. We'll go for two more natural wingers rather than Auba out of the wing. Weirdly think Iwobi is the most likely to play out of them all. He's been one of our main creative outlets alongside Kolasinac and I think we'll need his directness. Also tracks back and helps out the defence a great deal, which is needed with Kolasinac in defence. Mkhi has been on fire, so I find it unlikely that he's dropped. Then Auba/Laca is a tough one to call. Would personally go for Laca, since he tends to be much more effective in the big games. Could go either way, though.

    We could also play a 442 to get Auba and Laca involved

    Auba-Laca
    Iwobi-Torreira-Xhaka-Mkhi

    Definitely possible, but I think we'll want a back 3 when our full backs could be Kolasinac and (potentially) Jenkinson.

    Either way, should be a heated affair and I'm looking forward to it.
  • ViVaWhom
    6577 posts Big Money Move
    spurs fans are sleeping
  • Gervonta
    2838 posts Fans' Favourite
    Aftv about to be interesting :lol:
  • G000ner
    3653 posts National Call-Up
    devastating
  • BLUESBOY345
    1261 posts Professional
    The thing that gets me is if you’re gonna go left like that at least fake the right. He made it so obvious and plus he’s backing placement over power wtf was that

    Don’t get me started on his follow up miss which was even worse than the penalty miss
  • G000ner
    3653 posts National Call-Up
    The thing that gets me is if you’re gonna go left like that at least fake the right. He made it so obvious and plus he’s backing placement over power wtf was that

    Don’t get me started on his follow up miss which was even worse than the penalty miss

    I don't think Auba is great penalty taker the, he's just not composed enough. I prefer Laca from the spot. Shame because it was an incredible all round performance and if we got a late winner it would've been perfect.

    About the follow-up- Vertonghen was well in the box when the pen was taken. Some horrendous officiating today.

  • G000ner
    3653 posts National Call-Up
    So many good performances today- midfield was great, Iwobi caused problems all day, Mkhi was outstanding. Sokratis, Koscielny and Monreal were rocks. Leno's double save was incredible.

    Only really two poor performances- Mustafi who can never be trusted. Simply too mistake prone. His push on Kane was just stupidity. Then Auba who wasn't able to take advantage of his opportunities. Both cost us massively.

    Besides that, Spurs' penalty never should've been given. Nor should ours, but we missed anyway.

    Deserved more from that ffs
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