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If only PES sorted themselves out and got serious!

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DicaniosGod
5527 posts Big Money Move
edited December 2018
It would be so good to jump ship and play a decent football sim!! Come on Konami!!!

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  • QceCapo
    5625 posts Big Money Move
    I can't take any sports game not made by EA or 2K serious though...that's my main issue.
  • Boysie91
    10437 posts Has That Special Something
    Lazy company they still use the same awful menus from ps2 so don't count on it.
  • BSDShoes
    3136 posts National Call-Up
    Boysie91 wrote: »
    Lazy company they still use the same awful menus from ps2 so don't count on it.
    Uh, the old PES menu was a box or slider bar which was unattractive, the current menu is a lot like the current Xbox One and even FIFA/NHL/Madden menus.
  • alex1987
    5833 posts Big Money Move
    It would be so good to jump ship and play a decent football sim!! Come on Konami!!!

    Replace Konami with EA.

    Same message. Rate topic 1/10.
  • NornIron
    12833 posts Has That Special Something
    Its coming to gamepass in a couple of days will definitely give it another go.
  • FlyingOkapis
    1199 posts Professional
    Gameplay wise...PES is miles better even this year...and I mean miles better!

    It's content they lack sadly, and obviously the rights to a lot of stuff.

    PES has so many issues as well, online is just awful, everyone may like PES at first but after a few games it falls apart and you notice everything wrong with it.. as annoying as Fifa is it is still a far better game imo.
  • BSDShoes
    3136 posts National Call-Up
    Gameplay wise...PES is miles better even this year...and I mean miles better!

    It's content they lack sadly, and obviously the rights to a lot of stuff.

    PES has so many issues as well, online is just awful, everyone may like PES at first but after a few games it falls apart and you notice everything wrong with it.. as annoying as Fifa is it is still a far better game imo.

    It is true that online is terrible, but master league is way nicer than FIFA's career league, PES with pesuniverse option file is excellent, still playing it after 3 months.
  • I SiR MartY I
    5752 posts Big Money Move
    It would be nice if EA had some serious competition again, they might actually stop releasing trash year in and year out.

    Also be nice if people stopped blowing thousands a year on UT packs. Its their money and they're free to do what they want with it but why make the game better if people are willing to throw stupid amounts of money at it in its current state.
  • Empyrium7
    3385 posts National Call-Up
    that what happens when there is no competition. No matter what EA will release all football fans will buy because PES are way behind. I really hope that one day before I die to be able to play a decent football game.
    I don't understand how a 5 years old FIFA is better than this year's version
  • HektorOvTroy
    1637 posts Play-Off Hero
    They don't have the money for the rights.

    I'm not having my cm called Pol Paugba
  • QceCapo
    5625 posts Big Money Move
    They don't have the money for the rights.

    I'm not having my cm called Pol Paugba

    :D:D:D
  • FlyingOkapis
    1199 posts Professional
    BSDShoes wrote: »
    Gameplay wise...PES is miles better even this year...and I mean miles better!

    It's content they lack sadly, and obviously the rights to a lot of stuff.

    PES has so many issues as well, online is just awful, everyone may like PES at first but after a few games it falls apart and you notice everything wrong with it.. as annoying as Fifa is it is still a far better game imo.

    It is true that online is terrible, but master league is way nicer than FIFA's career league, PES with pesuniverse option file is excellent, still playing it after 3 months.

    Do they have fouls yet by the AI or is it still the same as each year with 1-2 fouls a season? Do GK's leave their goal yet? The catch-up bug still there..?
  • Momus
    1835 posts Play-Off Hero
    Well yeah the only reason EA manage to get away with this travesty (gameplay, content and greed) is due to lack of competition.

    Imagine if a good games company like Rockstar somehow managed to share the rights, EA would literally sh*t themselves and would be forced to create a decent game to compete against whatever masterpiece rockstar would manage to create
  • Pocketsquareguy
    6158 posts Big Money Move
    They don't have the money for the rights.

    I'm not having my cm called Pol Paugba

    You do realize that all players are in PES right? Player rights and team rights aren’t the same. So if you play my club and are too lazy to download an option file, the only thing you’re missing are some kits and stadiums. Really the only reason to complain is if you’re playing career mode on Xbox.
  • Aqeel87
    2916 posts Fans' Favourite
    It would be nice if EA had some serious competition again, they might actually stop releasing trash year in and year out.

    Also be nice if people stopped blowing thousands a year on UT packs. Its their money and they're free to do what they want with it but why make the game better if people are willing to throw stupid amounts of money at it in its current state.

  • It would be so good to jump ship and play a decent football sim!! Come on Konami!!!

    If you weren't so superficial you would realise that PES is the only realistic football sim on the market.

    Forget about the superficial and focus on what really matters, gameplay!
  • Add competition to the market and EA will still produce ❤️❤️❤️❤️ content. Other than some of the battlefield iterations has the company ever produced any game that's not ❤️❤️❤️❤️?
  • Pocketsquareguy
    6158 posts Big Money Move
    Nobility- wrote: »
    Add competition to the market and EA will still produce **** content. Other than some of the battlefield iterations has the company ever produced any game that's not ****?

    The Tetris remake was solid.
  • HDouble
    2586 posts Fans' Favourite
    Game has it bad moments but if you lot hate it that much don’t play it and stop investing your energy into these threads just get rid and move on. I’m not pretending to want to play pes I remember having to get a update file to update kits and real names which is comical. EA is the best
  • FlyingOkapis
    1199 posts Professional
    edited December 2018
    V_Babu_V wrote: »
    It would be so good to jump ship and play a decent football sim!! Come on Konami!!!

    If you weren't so superficial you would realise that PES is the only realistic football sim on the market.

    Forget about the superficial and focus on what really matters, gameplay!

    People hate EA so bad that they like to make out PES is some kind of saviour/hero, there is a reason people play Fifa over PES and its not the superficial reasons you like to think, all of us old enough used to be well aboard the PES train when they had even less licensing but after PES6 it just went to s*** and Fifa took the top spot, PES is still far behind, go on their forums and you will see complaints just like Fifa.

    PES is still far behind as a package.

    Konami are no saints.
  • FlyingOkapis
    1199 posts Professional
    Nobility- wrote: »
    Add competition to the market and EA will still produce **** content. Other than some of the battlefield iterations has the company ever produced any game that's not ****?

    Fight Night, UFC series, old NFS, Madden, Mass Effect, Titanfall, Dragon Age
  • V_Babu_V wrote: »
    It would be so good to jump ship and play a decent football sim!! Come on Konami!!!

    If you weren't so superficial you would realise that PES is the only realistic football sim on the market.

    Forget about the superficial and focus on what really matters, gameplay!

    People hate EA so bad that they like to make out PES is some kind of saviour/hero, there is a reason people play Fifa over PES and its not the superficial reasons you like to think, all of us old enough used to be well aboard the PES train when they had even less licensing but after PES6 it just went to s*** and Fifa took the top spot, PES is still far behind, go on their forums and you will see complaints just like Fifa.

    PES is still far behind as a package.

    Konami are no saints.

    I am new to football games and having started on Fifa 18, PES 18 resolved most of the issues I had with it. Bar online play, PES beats Fifa hands down.

    I would summarise the difference as PES is a thinking mans game whereas Fifa is a kiddies game.
  • Boysie91
    10437 posts Has That Special Something
    BSDShoes wrote: »
    Boysie91 wrote: »
    Lazy company they still use the same awful menus from ps2 so don't count on it.
    Uh, the old PES menu was a box or slider bar which was unattractive, the current menu is a lot like the current Xbox One and even FIFA/NHL/Madden menus.

    I had pes 18 and I couldn't see what I was selecting because of the menu colour choice. Stupid company
  • Pocketsquareguy
    6158 posts Big Money Move
    Boysie91 wrote: »
    BSDShoes wrote: »
    Boysie91 wrote: »
    Lazy company they still use the same awful menus from ps2 so don't count on it.
    Uh, the old PES menu was a box or slider bar which was unattractive, the current menu is a lot like the current Xbox One and even FIFA/NHL/Madden menus.

    I had pes 18 and I couldn't see what I was selecting because of the menu colour choice. Stupid company

    This is what amazes me. People care more about stuff like menus than gameplay. It’s a big reason why fifa is the way it is.
  • Boysie91
    10437 posts Has That Special Something
    Boysie91 wrote: »
    BSDShoes wrote: »
    Boysie91 wrote: »
    Lazy company they still use the same awful menus from ps2 so don't count on it.
    Uh, the old PES menu was a box or slider bar which was unattractive, the current menu is a lot like the current Xbox One and even FIFA/NHL/Madden menus.

    I had pes 18 and I couldn't see what I was selecting because of the menu colour choice. Stupid company

    This is what amazes me. People care more about stuff like menus than gameplay. It’s a big reason why fifa is the way it is.

    Well I want to be able to see what I am selecting stupid. PES gameplay is outdated anyway
  • FlyingOkapis
    1199 posts Professional
    V_Babu_V wrote: »
    V_Babu_V wrote: »
    It would be so good to jump ship and play a decent football sim!! Come on Konami!!!

    If you weren't so superficial you would realise that PES is the only realistic football sim on the market.

    Forget about the superficial and focus on what really matters, gameplay!

    People hate EA so bad that they like to make out PES is some kind of saviour/hero, there is a reason people play Fifa over PES and its not the superficial reasons you like to think, all of us old enough used to be well aboard the PES train when they had even less licensing but after PES6 it just went to s*** and Fifa took the top spot, PES is still far behind, go on their forums and you will see complaints just like Fifa.

    PES is still far behind as a package.

    Konami are no saints.

    I am new to football games and having started on Fifa 18, PES 18 resolved most of the issues I had with it. Bar online play, PES beats Fifa hands down.

    I would summarise the difference as PES is a thinking mans game whereas Fifa is a kiddies game.

    And you have highlighted one of PES huge problems, as a package it is so poor, dont get me wrong I agree with what you're saying regarding master league BUT when Konami push the game out at similar prices to fifa (I know it drops in price earlier) they cant just offer one mode.

    They need better menu's, commentary, licensing, modes, servers, I'd personally love to go back to PES but Konami slack in so many areas, plus some of their logic seems so backwards.

    I dont know if its a cultural thing or what but the menu's and descriptions can be very confusing for a new customer, would love for a 2k to take PES off of Konami and make the changes needed.

    ALL that being said I am open to PES 20 as this fifa is probably my last.
  • Safehands84
    4003 posts National Call-Up
    I play both, the actually gameplay I prefer Pes but as said above it lacks long term content that Fifa has.

    If your on PS licence, kits etc are irrelevant as it takes 5 minutes to sort that out.
    I prefer the graphics in game as well players look far more realistic and their chemistry system is based around the manager tactics and is a great feature.

    However commentary is still like a ps2 game. Menus are clunky and look like a game you’d play on your phone. The lack of content is the biggest reason I play Fifa more. They have a weekly cup but once you won it once it pointless doing again as the rewards drop. I think it designed like this so everyone can win it.
    They have their own version of division rivals which runs weekly like fifa.
    There is also a cup on weekend with quicker games and gives you a set time limit to play as many games as you can it takes your best 4 results and then the top 16 or 32 go through to the knock out stage.

    No market though, you get players by two methods their version of packs which is a agent or after every game you get a scout. Scout specialists in certain areas like striker etc, you can combine upto 3 scouts which increases your chance of getting the player you want some even guarantee you an certian player.

    What great feature if you pull the same player 3 times you can swap them for any player in that category.

  • Ishibum
    13611 posts Has That Special Something
    EA: incapable
    Konami: unwilling
  • Pocketsquareguy
    6158 posts Big Money Move

    Boysie91 wrote: »
    Boysie91 wrote: »
    BSDShoes wrote: »
    Boysie91 wrote: »
    Lazy company they still use the same awful menus from ps2 so don't count on it.
    Uh, the old PES menu was a box or slider bar which was unattractive, the current menu is a lot like the current Xbox One and even FIFA/NHL/Madden menus.

    I had pes 18 and I couldn't see what I was selecting because of the menu colour choice. Stupid company

    This is what amazes me. People care more about stuff like menus than gameplay. It’s a big reason why fifa is the way it is.

    Well I want to be able to see what I am selecting stupid. PES gameplay is outdated anyway

    What are you 12? You just retort by calling me stupid. Intelligent reply.
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