Seriously, how to defend ???

Renamed123456
3953 posts National Call-Up

Somebody please help. I'm genuinely on the edge of either snapping this disk in half or exchanging it and never buying another fifa game again.

Please spare your "oh u must suk coz I am so gud" posts and either help and explain what you do or help somehow.

It's getting beyond ridiculous now I really cba with this crappy game anymore.

Situation...

Opposition players are marking me touch tight for 90 minutes.

It's lucky I like playing 1-2 touch passing because it's all I have any opportunity to do if that.

If I pass a ball to my player who's in 10+ yards space, he'll immediately be held touch tight before he even gets to control the ball or immediately upon controlling. If I cross the ball or pass to player in box, intercepted or touch tight immediately/ whole time. (This goes for ai controlled players also)

However, my players always stand a minimum of 5 yards away from any player, the player could be walking and my defender can not get close to them even with sprinting they can't catch up with walking players.

So every player is given 5 yards of space free to just walk.

Players walk into my penalty area and my defenders walk back almost to the 6yard box and move to the side giving attacker open goal.

if it lets me move my player anywhere near the opposition they'll just pass the ball to another player in 5 yards of space. Defenders won't track runs either. Move away from players to give them space.


Now imho I'm quite a clever player, I can easily predict what my opponent will do, or I can predict their predictions to what I will do.

Defensively I know how and what runs to track I time blocks and whatever else really well. I spot where trouble is.

However, all my players now do not defend at all. It barely let's me control the player I switch to. It'll either move my player out of the way or make my player stand there or switch away. It's more than simply not defending, it's simply anti-defending.


So please, all you apparently ultra elite super pro "I go 30 - 0" "defending so ez" players please tell me how you're supposed to defend because as I said, this is beyond an effin joke and I'm ready to just spend my time on quality games.

Thanks.

Comments

  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    I'm down to help ya my man. My defending is prob one of my stronger skillsets that keeps me in games. Div 3 here and rising. Lets start with the basics. What players do you have? What formation and tactics do you use? What's your general strategy when your trying to defend... like what are you trying to do to the opponent to impose your will?
  • Bstinson
    38 posts Park Captain
    I'm down to help ya my man. My defending is prob one of my stronger skillsets that keeps me in games. Div 3 here and rising. Lets start with the basics. What players do you have? What formation and tactics do you use? What's your general strategy when your trying to defend... like what are you trying to do to the opponent to impose your will?

    To late he’s snapped the game
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    Bstinson wrote: »
    I'm down to help ya my man. My defending is prob one of my stronger skillsets that keeps me in games. Div 3 here and rising. Lets start with the basics. What players do you have? What formation and tactics do you use? What's your general strategy when your trying to defend... like what are you trying to do to the opponent to impose your will?

    To late he’s snapped the game

    lmao
  • lIlIlIlIlIl
    2961 posts National Call-Up
    Hal! Start defending again!

    I'm sorry Dave, i'm afraid i can't do that.
  • Renamed123456
    3953 posts National Call-Up
    Thanks, mad appreciate it!

    Team 1: Telles - Marquinhos - Paulista - Carvajal
    Team 2: Mandy - Stones - Rudiger - Perreira/ Aurier
    I started out as 4321, offensively this didn't do what I wanted, and my FullBacks were never back, so I switched to...
    4132 this formation worked better for me, midfield was a bit empty, but with my 2 midfielders (Allan - Fred, Torreira Kovacic... prev Fred Kova) I was able to distribute and dictate well as well as defend well.
    Biggest issue was my full backs rareely got forward. Got bored n ish weren't working so...
    Now (past 2 days) I've switched to 451 ... immediately my team played borderline exactly how I wanted. So much midfield passing options, and attack. Now after about 6 or so initial games where it played well it's a bit eh now.

    (Soz think above was a bit of a tangent)
    451 or 4132

    Tactics press on loss of possession or pressure on heavy touch. Only constant if needed last 5 or 10.

    Width medium, depth at 4 or 3.

    My aim defensively, I initially want to try and win the ball back to keep the attack up or prevent a counter. If that fails, or under normal situations...
    I seek to maintain a shape and stay in front of attackers waiting for opportunity to either tackle or block, I'm not trying to keep a constant tackle but would like the player not to be given free license to do whatever, contain them a bit.
    My aim for my depth is, I don't want to sit back in my box, I want to leave just enough space in behind that my keeper should be able to deal with It, and not so much that my defenders can't catch up.

    Also, #COYG
  • TheArchitect
    941 posts Professional
    i find this patch way better to manual defend again. I love it. All the pressure noobs sending me rage messages after the game. I always select my defenders in a counter to get that edge for the through ball. And when 11 bulls come at me I try give no space for finesse shots
  • dabeags
    401 posts Sunday League Hero
    Defense on drop back, 3 bar depth. 4231, one M/H CDM on stay back, other H/M or H/H on balanced. In game tactic Team Press, Overload Ballside.

    Control CDMs and the CAM on defense, manually select wins and CBs to sprint back if they are out of position but then switch to CDMs to close while the AI defends. One the player is passing around edge of box select CBs and manually tackle/contain
  • Headshrinker363
    4807 posts National Call-Up
    I found I struggled too. I used to use running jockey and contain (r2+L2+x) a lot with the player closest to the ball, before punching with the tackle. Now I find it more effective to just jockey (L2) before pouncing with the tackle.
  • VerdePride
    3240 posts National Call-Up
    edited December 2018
    Have been manual defending and now I concede way less goals, glad I never did AI defending bc I can already see how easy my opponent loses mark with easy skill moves
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    Thanks, mad appreciate it!

    Team 1: Telles - Marquinhos - Paulista - Carvajal
    Team 2: Mandy - Stones - Rudiger - Perreira/ Aurier
    I started out as 4321, offensively this didn't do what I wanted, and my FullBacks were never back, so I switched to...
    4132 this formation worked better for me, midfield was a bit empty, but with my 2 midfielders (Allan - Fred, Torreira Kovacic... prev Fred Kova) I was able to distribute and dictate well as well as defend well.
    Biggest issue was my full backs rareely got forward. Got bored n ish weren't working so...
    Now (past 2 days) I've switched to 451 ... immediately my team played borderline exactly how I wanted. So much midfield passing options, and attack. Now after about 6 or so initial games where it played well it's a bit eh now.

    (Soz think above was a bit of a tangent)
    451 or 4132

    Tactics press on loss of possession or pressure on heavy touch. Only constant if needed last 5 or 10.

    Width medium, depth at 4 or 3.

    My aim defensively, I initially want to try and win the ball back to keep the attack up or prevent a counter. If that fails, or under normal situations...
    I seek to maintain a shape and stay in front of attackers waiting for opportunity to either tackle or block, I'm not trying to keep a constant tackle but would like the player not to be given free license to do whatever, contain them a bit.
    My aim for my depth is, I don't want to sit back in my box, I want to leave just enough space in behind that my keeper should be able to deal with It, and not so much that my defenders can't catch up.

    Also, #COYG

    Nice, ok I think I can work with this quite a bit.

    So for your team 1 I would add Thiago silva and then IF Meunier at RB if you can afford both. Paulista is a good starter, but he's not going to jump off the page for you. Or upgrade Paulista to like Varane, Godin, or Ramos if you can. Good goalkeepers aren't that expensive, so if needed you can switch yours out to play around with your CBs and fullbacks. Meunier has a perfect link with Marquinhos or Silva, so I'd try to fit him in to start. Allan is going to be a good pick for you because he can fly around, I like smaller faster single CDMs vs taller stronger ones until I can afford an icon. I have Kante for example.

    I think I can get a picture of what you are trying to do to the opponent, it sounds a lot like what I like to do. I'd give 41212 narrow a go, that's what I use and it's really great for distributing the ball and finding open shots. I'd also give 4231 narrow or wide a go as well. I know it's what everyone is doing, but they are meta for a reason. I'd recommend having a dept of 2 and a width of 4. That's what I've found works best for me. You can adjust the width if needed based on your opponent. I put my fullbacks on stay back and then manually trigger runs with L1. I'd have your STs and CAM at stay forward and the other two CAMs or CMs at get forward and free roam. Have your CDM stay back and cut passing lanes/aggro interceptions. And then pressure after poss loss is a good option. I use balanced on attack with a width of 5.

    I like your mindset when it comes to strategy. I would suggest trying to be very aggressive even with your CBs, CDM, and Fullbacks. If there is no one that can get behind you for a through ball or another defender has it covered you can pull your CB forward and try to stick your foot out for a standing tackle if you can. I have two players that I can kind of be aggressive with no matter the situation, my CDM and my fullbacks. Usually I can switch to them and run at the ball holder without worrying about giving up a pass behind me. With the new patch you have a little more freedom to pull players out of position a bit as long as there isn't too big of a hole. Like before, if you pulled your CB out, your other CB would just pick daisies. Now you can kind of be more aggressive with it I feel.

    Things to look for to make a tackle: passes and sprinting. If a player is about to receive a pass you can switch to the player behind him and try to get the ball from him. If he starts to sprint even for a second you can try and get the ball off him as well. The only time I'm playing "contain" and trying to cut passes is when the opponent has an advantage going forward. If he is at all isolated I'm running straight for him trying to look for a window for a standing tackle.


    Hope this helps even a little bit. Most of it is prob info you already understand, but maybe just a few pieces gets through. Message me if you ever need to talk out a situation or something my man. #COYG
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