Gaming/Gambling/Microtransactions - Bbc R5L

L4MP5
176 posts Has Potential To Be Special
So heading into work today listening to bbc radio 5 live and they are discussing the dangers and problems associated with microtransactions. Low an behold the famous EA is mentioned on a number of occasions as using unethical means in order to encourage a form of gambling.

Now I've been playing EA games since the early fifas, im 30 years old I remember the days when games did not have these microtransactions plastered all over the place with a pay2win mentality being fuelled by extortionate amounts of money being spent. I also remember the days before EA completely destroyed a once legendary game in command and conquer. Ah the good ol days.

Anyway let's not get sidetracked, my genuine concerns are for the youth of today, this post isn't aimed at the 'It's my money and i spend my money on what i want' brigade. It's more aimed as a constructive discussion about the dangers that games such as fifa are creating for the youth of today.

Spending mom and dad's money like it's going out of fashion is this setting a dangerous precedent where people will grow up 1. Not necessarily understanding the value of money and 2. With that constant underlying desire to 'gamble' to potentially gain..

I'll end my post on the facts that MP's are openly looking to have regulators ban this kind of business model, it's already banned in Belgium apparently.

Your thoughts ? Parents? Uncle's/Aunties? Brothers? What do you guys think? Are concerns this day and age justified

Comments

  • L4MP5
    176 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    P.s I like many others have spent money on this fifa and every other. I just feel for the ones who are going to grow up thinking this is the norm in games
  • AFC_95
    8828 posts League Winner
    I really hope microtranssctions are banned in games. I miss the days - of like PS1/2 - where you paid for a game and got the full experience with no extra cost. It was brilliant.
  • ryan217
    2953 posts Fans' Favourite
    L4MP5 wrote: »
    P.s I like many others have spent money on this fifa and every other. I just feel for the ones who are going to grow up thinking this is the norm in games

    Unfortunately it is the norm nowadays, it's very rare now that you can get a full game without having to pay extra at some point (IG purchases, DLC etc).

    Gone are the days where you pay your money up front and get the full game, gaming's going downhill fast and while people keep buying these micro-transactions it's never going to stop.
  • Kenpachi_FIFA
    505 posts An Exciting Prospect
    I agree. Its a growing concern. Like pulling lever on a slot machine. Its creates a gambling state of mind which can be addictive. I don't spend money other then to buy the game. That's it. I refuse to spend more to boost gameplay experience.
  • CharlieC
    7388 posts Big Money Move
    At least in FIFA you potentially get something that will help you in game but in Fortnite you just look pretty. That’s the biggest con.
  • AFC_95
    8828 posts League Winner
    CharlieC wrote: »
    At least in FIFA you potentially get something that will help you in game but in Fortnite you just look pretty. That’s the biggest con.

    I disagree. I love fortnites way of doing it. You don't get any gameplay advantages from spending money. Perfect for casuals.
  • CharlieC
    7388 posts Big Money Move
    edited October 2018
    AFC_95 wrote: »
    CharlieC wrote: »
    At least in FIFA you potentially get something that will help you in game but in Fortnite you just look pretty. That’s the biggest con.

    I disagree. I love fortnites way of doing it. You don't get any gameplay advantages from spending money. Perfect for casuals.

    The only positive in that sense is they didnt pay for the game, otherwise it’s ridiculous
  • GreezyWeezyLDN
    1323 posts Professional
    AFC_95 wrote: »
    CharlieC wrote: »
    At least in FIFA you potentially get something that will help you in game but in Fortnite you just look pretty. That’s the biggest con.

    I disagree. I love fortnites way of doing it. You don't get any gameplay advantages from spending money. Perfect for casuals.

    They are as bad as each other, they both promote instant gratification and a transaction so quick and easy that even an adult can lose track of how much money is being spent.

    In my opinion it's the parents responsibility be aware of what their children are doing, especially when gaming online.

    My main concern is the habits these not transactions instil. In 10 years time when these FIFA/Fortnite kids are old enough, I can see a gambling epidemic.

    I know EA can justify it not being gambling, but we all know it is.

    But the bubble will burst eventually, once a celebrities kid does 5 grand in packs an it makes the news, action will be taken.
  • BiigDee
    4687 posts Big Money Move
    I’m all for having to spend a few pounds to get a better team but where do you draw the line. The price of Fifa points can be crazy and most of the time it’s for very little reward. People will say it’s not gambling but try saying that to a person with a gambling problem who’s spends more than he can afford chasing that big pull, you ❤️❤️❤️❤️ away a few hundred and then left thinking my luck had to change. I like many others have spent silly money on the game but I don’t always get a lot of free time to play and to keep a nice fresh squad costs time or money. Overhaul the packs and maybe a pack where you know you will get a certain rated card.
  • Fabio1
    165 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    im a dad - i think this is a massive issue - i still cannot understand why parents are giving kids money for this either as i know later in life for these type of kids if they have a poor job they will be out robbing to get their fix .. i would really like for any type of payment than the buying of the game banned .. lets just hope for a better future with all this
  • L4MP5
    176 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    AFC_95 wrote: »
    CharlieC wrote: »
    At least in FIFA you potentially get something that will help you in game but in Fortnite you just look pretty. That’s the biggest con.

    I disagree. I love fortnites way of doing it. You don't get any gameplay advantages from spending money. Perfect for casuals.

    They are as bad as each other, they both promote instant gratification and a transaction so quick and easy that even an adult can lose track of how much money is being spent.

    In my opinion it's the parents responsibility be aware of what their children are doing, especially when gaming online.

    My main concern is the habits these not transactions instil. In 10 years time when these FIFA/Fortnite kids are old enough, I can see a gambling epidemic.

    I know EA can justify it not being gambling, but we all know it is.

    But the bubble will burst eventually, once a celebrities kid does 5 grand in packs an it makes the news, action will be taken.

    Nail on the head in my opinion mate. It's clearly going to have major ramifications when these guys have grown up. There is already just under half a million with a gambling addiction in this country (that's official statistics) so I can bet it's prob more like triple those numbers.

    In my opinion something needs to be done and fast it's preying on vulnerable minds in my opinion and on that desire, that almost drug like high people get when they finally get something good. It's crazy how it can't be seen as gambling
  • Fabio1
    165 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    yes LAMPS & GreezyWeezyLDN i agree 1000% 10 yrs time we will then see what they have done
  • AFC_95
    8828 posts League Winner
    AFC_95 wrote: »
    CharlieC wrote: »
    At least in FIFA you potentially get something that will help you in game but in Fortnite you just look pretty. That’s the biggest con.

    I disagree. I love fortnites way of doing it. You don't get any gameplay advantages from spending money. Perfect for casuals.

    They are as bad as each other, they both promote instant gratification and a transaction so quick and easy that even an adult can lose track of how much money is being spent.

    In my opinion it's the parents responsibility be aware of what their children are doing, especially when gaming online.

    My main concern is the habits these not transactions instil. In 10 years time when these FIFA/Fortnite kids are old enough, I can see a gambling epidemic.

    I know EA can justify it not being gambling, but we all know it is.

    But the bubble will burst eventually, once a celebrities kid does 5 grand in packs an it makes the news, action will be taken.

    Nah mate, I completely agree. Both forms are bad. It's terrible games are going towards this. But if microtranssctions are a must then I prefer the Fortnite version. Though, I do hope they're banned altogether.
  • BondJame5Collins
    1962 posts Fans' Favourite
    It's the sheer greed that gets me, 12000 FIfa points should not cost £80!
  • R4z0RB4cK
    171 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited October 2018
    Unfortunately, sleaze bags like EA have no common decency, like politicians, energy companies, banks, etc, all they care about is screwing the little guy to make as much money as possible.

    Some on here try to defend the scam by talking about casinos and the lottery, if you want to compare FIFA to them then there should be an 18+ rating for FIFA 18.
  • Fabio1
    165 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    all it is - the gangsters couldn't do drugs as it might get them killed so what they did was this ! heaven for them aint it
  • BiigDee
    4687 posts Big Money Move
    Profit before customer satisfaction
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