Why are there no American Icons for FUT 19

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  • TeamRem
    2341 posts Fans' Favourite
    TeamRem wrote: »
    The game is tailored for premier league followers and that’s about it, is why.

    Not necessarily true mate, the premier league is the best and most popular league in the world. So it's hardly surprising it's popular in a game. Going by the ratings so far is say serie A is going to be VERY popular this year, especially with the inclusion of Ronaldo

    You start with “not necessarily” but then you agree with me. I agree that it’s the most popular league in the world. That’s why EA boosts it up with random icons and pretend SBCs.
  • TeamRem wrote: »
    TeamRem wrote: »
    The game is tailored for premier league followers and that’s about it, is why.

    Not necessarily true mate, the premier league is the best and most popular league in the world. So it's hardly surprising it's popular in a game. Going by the ratings so far is say serie A is going to be VERY popular this year, especially with the inclusion of Ronaldo

    You start with “not necessarily” but then you agree with me. I agree that it’s the most popular league in the world. That’s why EA boosts it up with random icons and pretend SBCs.

    No, I disagreed with you in terms of all the games so far, then I said given the rating we've seen in 19 (the game that's not out yet) that the serie A will overtake the BPL in FIFA.
  • JohnDoe
    12175 posts Has That Special Something
    edited September 2018
    TeamRem wrote: »
    The game is tailored for premier league followers and that’s about it, is why.

    Not necessarily true mate, the premier league is the best and most popular league in the world. So it's hardly surprising it's popular in a game. Going by the ratings so far is say serie A is going to be VERY popular this year, especially with the inclusion of Ronaldo

    ftfy
  • JohnDoe wrote: »
    TeamRem wrote: »
    The game is tailored for premier league followers and that’s about it, is why.

    Not necessarily true mate, the premier league is the best and most popular league in the world. So it's hardly surprising it's popular in a game. Going by the ratings so far is say serie A is going to be VERY popular this year, especially with the inclusion of Ronaldo

    ftfy

    I'm not sure what that abbreviation means but your lying to yourself if you don't think the PL is the best League there is....
  • Gooner93
    334 posts Sunday League Hero
    The American team didn't qualify for a world cup between 1950 and 1990 or something like that. And let's be honest their greatest players since? Landon Donovan, Tim Howard, Clint Dempsey, Brad Friedel are not really on the level of the icons in game already.
  • Paulopudasso
    1546 posts Play-Off Hero
    There are no American icons as they simply aren't good enough as for Scotland dalgleish is the only one who would get one snm
  • alanrudy
    1557 posts Play-Off Hero
    Can't say any American definitely deserves it, but if we're going by that Icon distinction vs Legend, I think Donovan and Howard could get one when they're definitely retired. And if backup/unproven players can be some of the best players in this game, I don't see why that can't be extended to American players. I'm in favor of even more icons from different countries, they don't have to be overpowered though.
  • JohnDoe
    12175 posts Has That Special Something
    edited September 2018
    JohnDoe wrote: »
    TeamRem wrote: »
    The game is tailored for premier league followers and that’s about it, is why.

    Not necessarily true mate, the premier league is the best and most popular league in the world. So it's hardly surprising it's popular in a game. Going by the ratings so far is say serie A is going to be VERY popular this year, especially with the inclusion of Ronaldo

    ftfy

    I'm not sure what that abbreviation means but your lying to yourself if you don't think the PL is the best League there is....

    "My opinion is factual, and everyone else's is wrong"

    I'm just sitting here waiting for a Prem team to win the CL. Won't be holding my breath, though.
  • JohnDoe wrote: »
    JohnDoe wrote: »
    TeamRem wrote: »
    The game is tailored for premier league followers and that’s about it, is why.

    Not necessarily true mate, the premier league is the best and most popular league in the world. So it's hardly surprising it's popular in a game. Going by the ratings so far is say serie A is going to be VERY popular this year, especially with the inclusion of Ronaldo

    ftfy

    I'm not sure what that abbreviation means but your lying to yourself if you don't think the PL is the best League there is....

    "My opinion is factual, and everyone else's is wrong"

    I'm just sitting here waiting for a Prem team to win the CL. Won't be holding my breath, though.

    Pffhhht....mkay then. You believe what you want. I know I'm not alone in what I'm thinking. I'm ending this debate as I don't want to derail the thread
  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    selb wrote: »
    UrboiStev wrote: »
    Pretty sure that there hasn't been any good American football players in the history of the game.

    Erm Jerry Rice, Tom Brady, Larry Fitzgerald, Brett Favre ;)

    Lol yes, good one @selb :)
  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    edited September 2018
    WFCBagnall wrote: »
    None are worthy

    Don't @ me

    Broooooooooo :'(
  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    Although I think Dagleish more than deserves one, I think he wouldn’t be great in this current Fifa as he wasn’t strong or fast enough from what I saw as a kid (admittedly I don’t remember his prime years in the 80’s) Souness thwould be an absolute animal and would have an awesome moustache and perm :)

    @RayS, what happened to the next Pele, Freddie Adu?

    Doesn't he play in the Indian league now or something? He was a beast in FM a few years back

    He turned out not to be the next Pele. He’s playing for... Las Vegas lol yes really. US 2nd division football
  • krappen07
    5995 posts Big Money Move
    EA SPORTS, Vancouver, Canada ;)

    Why aren't there any Canadian icons? >:)
  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    Gooner93 wrote: »
    The American team didn't qualify for a world cup between 1950 and 1990 or something like that. And let's be honest their greatest players since? Landon Donovan, Tim Howard, Clint Dempsey, Brad Friedel are not really on the level of the icons in game already.

    All those players certainly are “iconic” to anyone even remotely familiar with US soccer.
  • Frankenberry
    10217 posts Has That Special Something
    Can't get behind the "no Americans deserve being Icons" when we have Nakata, Lehmann, Luis Hernandez, Okocha, etc. (e.g. players that are deservingly "iconic" in one way or another, but not on the level of Maradona or Beckenbauer).

    "Icons" are players that were important to the history of the sport. The definition is broad enough to include national team legends, popular players from world class teams, or extremely skilled/talented players.
  • RayS wrote: »
    Although I think Dagleish more than deserves one, I think he wouldn’t be great in this current Fifa as he wasn’t strong or fast enough from what I saw as a kid (admittedly I don’t remember his prime years in the 80’s) Souness thwould be an absolute animal and would have an awesome moustache and perm :)

    @RayS, what happened to the next Pele, Freddie Adu?

    Doesn't he play in the Indian league now or something? He was a beast in FM a few years back

    He turned out not to be the next Pele. He’s playing for... Las Vegas lol yes really. US 2nd division football

    Damn, what a fall from grace :'(
    Read somewhere that he's become a proper journeyman now, played in like 13 leagues or something. Think he's always rumoured to have had a bad attitude.
  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    krappen07 wrote: »
    EA SPORTS, Vancouver, Canada ;)

    Why aren't there any Canadian icons? >:)

    EA Headquarters are in California, but EA Vancouver develops FIFA specifially.

    Dwayne De Rosario would be a cool Canadian Icon tho
  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    Can't get behind the "no Americans deserve being Icons" when we have Nakata, Lehmann, Luis Hernandez, Okocha, etc. (e.g. players that are deservingly "iconic" in one way or another, but not on the level of Maradona or Beckenbauer).

    "Icons" are players that were important to the history of the sport. The definition is broad enough to include national team legends, popular players from world class teams, or extremely skilled/talented players.

  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    edited September 2018
    RayS wrote: »
    Although I think Dagleish more than deserves one, I think he wouldn’t be great in this current Fifa as he wasn’t strong or fast enough from what I saw as a kid (admittedly I don’t remember his prime years in the 80’s) Souness thwould be an absolute animal and would have an awesome moustache and perm :)

    @RayS, what happened to the next Pele, Freddie Adu?

    Doesn't he play in the Indian league now or something? He was a beast in FM a few years back

    He turned out not to be the next Pele. He’s playing for... Las Vegas lol yes really. US 2nd division football

    Damn, what a fall from grace :'(
    Read somewhere that he's become a proper journeyman now, played in like 13 leagues or something. Think he's always rumoured to have had a bad attitude.

    Pretty much. He’s an example of a footballer with bags and bags of talent but didn’t stay in the right system or make the right moves or have the right attitude.
  • JohnDoe
    12175 posts Has That Special Something
    JohnDoe wrote: »
    JohnDoe wrote: »
    TeamRem wrote: »
    The game is tailored for premier league followers and that’s about it, is why.

    Not necessarily true mate, the premier league is the best and most popular league in the world. So it's hardly surprising it's popular in a game. Going by the ratings so far is say serie A is going to be VERY popular this year, especially with the inclusion of Ronaldo

    ftfy

    I'm not sure what that abbreviation means but your lying to yourself if you don't think the PL is the best League there is....

    "My opinion is factual, and everyone else's is wrong"

    I'm just sitting here waiting for a Prem team to win the CL. Won't be holding my breath, though.

    Pffhhht....mkay then. You believe what you want. I know I'm not alone in what I'm thinking. I'm ending this debate as I don't want to derail the thread

    I loved that counter-argument.

    Also, millions of people believe that the Earth is flat or that vaccines are the leading cause of autism in the US. Doesn't make any of it true.

    I genuinely don't care what the best league in the world is. I just didn't like the arrogance in your post, that's all.
  • Frankenberry
    10217 posts Has That Special Something
    It is pretty obvious that EA has gone with popular Premier League 90s/00s players for Icon selection. It's not a requirement, but pretty much every famous Premier League player is or has been a Legend/Icon in FUT.

    If you google "best Premier League players ever":

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    The players not checkmarked are still active (but would assuredly get Icon cards when they retire).

    We can agree that the Premier League is the most popular worldwide, but no other league gets this kind of preference for selection in FUT special cards.
  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    JohnDoe wrote: »
    TeamRem wrote: »
    The game is tailored for premier league followers and that’s about it, is why.

    Not necessarily true mate, the premier league is the best and most popular league in the world. So it's hardly surprising it's popular in a game. Going by the ratings so far is say serie A is going to be VERY popular this year, especially with the inclusion of Ronaldo

    ftfy

    I'm not sure what that abbreviation means but your lying to yourself if you don't think the PL is the best League there is....

    Ftfy = fixed that for you
  • AFC AJAX NR 1
    13214 posts Has That Special Something
    Can't get behind the "no Americans deserve being Icons" when we have Nakata, Lehmann, Luis Hernandez, Okocha, etc. (e.g. players that are deservingly "iconic" in one way or another, but not on the level of Maradona or Beckenbauer).

    "Icons" are players that were important to the history of the sport. The definition is broad enough to include national team legends, popular players from world class teams, or extremely skilled/talented players.

    Well they included Shearer so they set the bar very low obviously.
  • P1tch_1nvaderz88
    16708 posts World Class
    edited September 2018
    RayS wrote: »
    JohnDoe wrote: »
    TeamRem wrote: »
    The game is tailored for premier league followers and that’s about it, is why.

    Not necessarily true mate, the premier league is the best and most popular league in the world. So it's hardly surprising it's popular in a game. Going by the ratings so far is say serie A is going to be VERY popular this year, especially with the inclusion of Ronaldo

    ftfy

    I'm not sure what that abbreviation means but your lying to yourself if you don't think the PL is the best League there is....

    Ftfy = fixed that for you

    I see, clearly I'm not down with the kids these days lol
  • krappen07
    5995 posts Big Money Move
    RayS wrote: »
    krappen07 wrote: »
    EA SPORTS, Vancouver, Canada ;)

    Why aren't there any Canadian icons? >:)

    EA Headquarters are in California, but EA Vancouver develops FIFA specifially.

    Dwayne De Rosario would be a cool Canadian Icon tho

    EA was founded in Canada though, which makes it Canadian :#

    Anyway, about the topic in hand, I will say that perhaps in the near future, as many different countries as possible should get an icon card, as many were iconic in their part of the world at some point.

    There has been so many talented and/or internationally iconic players in history, that you can't simply include everyone from the start. Next year has already included a bunch of new additions

    But at the moment, I think focusing on players that were iconic globally/the most talented in history is the way to go before introducing others as mentioned above.

    .
  • selb
    7400 posts League Winner
    RayS wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    UrboiStev wrote: »
    Pretty sure that there hasn't been any good American football players in the history of the game.

    Erm Jerry Rice, Tom Brady, Larry Fitzgerald, Brett Favre ;)

    Lol yes, good one @selb :)

    I'm glad someone appreciates my American Footbal knowledge :)
  • Gooner93
    334 posts Sunday League Hero
    RayS wrote: »
    Gooner93 wrote: »
    The American team didn't qualify for a world cup between 1950 and 1990 or something like that. And let's be honest their greatest players since? Landon Donovan, Tim Howard, Clint Dempsey, Brad Friedel are not really on the level of the icons in game already.

    All those players certainly are “iconic” to anyone even remotely familiar with US soccer.

    But are they iconic to anyone outside of the US? Average players in the premier league, probably without an honour to their names.
  • WarrenBarton
    10986 posts Has That Special Something
    Alexi Lalas would be cool B)

    That hair/beard combo is about as iconic as you can get
  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    Gooner93 wrote: »
    RayS wrote: »
    Gooner93 wrote: »
    The American team didn't qualify for a world cup between 1950 and 1990 or something like that. And let's be honest their greatest players since? Landon Donovan, Tim Howard, Clint Dempsey, Brad Friedel are not really on the level of the icons in game already.

    All those players certainly are “iconic” to anyone even remotely familiar with US soccer.

    But are they iconic to anyone outside of the US? Average players in the premier league, probably without an honour to their names.

    Iconic at least within our region yeah. I mean, you could make the same argument for some of the current Icons, i.e. that they were not Iconic beyond their region.
  • RayS
    37524 posts International Superstar
    At least we have Nakata in normal FUT now o:)

    True. My #1 FUT 19 icon target :)
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