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  • G000ner
    4095 posts National Call-Up
    Pughy30 wrote: »
    Looks like we're signing Yann Sommer, bizarre signing considering we just got Leno so I'm not sure who'll be starting now

    It's bs
  • PES
    5173 posts Big Money Move
    No more Mözit for Germany. :blush:
  • Tornado31619
    16585 posts World Class
    Racism and disrespect apparently
  • ViVaWhom
    7957 posts League Winner
    can he switch to turkey?
  • Ahmer50x
    17463 posts World Class
    All this outrage over one picture. Really sad!
  • Bob_Dylan
    19224 posts World Class
    edited July 2018
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    All this outrage over one picture. Really sad!

    it was well deserved

    Edit: the criticism that is, not the hate and racism
  • G000ner
    4095 posts National Call-Up
    edited July 2018
    Bob_Dylan wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    All this outrage over one picture. Really sad!

    it was well deserved

    Edit: the criticism that is, not the hate and racism

    Not at all. Certainly not to extent he was criticised. He was made to be the scapegoat as always. His face was used on every German newspaper following their exit- basically used as the cover boy for their failure, which is horrible. He wasn't even the worst German player. In the game against Korea he was one of their better players, in fact.

    To a lesser extent the same happens to Raheem Sterling. We're fortunate that we had a good world cup otherwise Sterling would've been destroyed by the media. People still criticised him even in games he played well. Makes me wonder if everyone's clueless when it comes to football or there's another agenda.
  • Ahmer50x
    17463 posts World Class
    Bob_Dylan wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    All this outrage over one picture. Really sad!

    it was well deserved

    Edit: the criticism that is, not the hate and racism

    He posed for a picture with the (controversial) head of state of a NATO member. He didn’t ask anyone to vote for or against him.

    To criticize Ozil for not snubbing Erdogan or leading opposition to him is unfair.
  • ChrisLFC
    7038 posts Big Money Move
    edited July 2018
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Bob_Dylan wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    All this outrage over one picture. Really sad!

    it was well deserved

    Edit: the criticism that is, not the hate and racism

    He posed for a picture with the (controversial) head of state of a NATO member. He didn’t ask anyone to vote for or against him.

    To criticize Ozil for not snubbing Erdogan or leading opposition to him is unfair.

    This isn't about "not snubbing him". He and Gundogan voluntarily met up with him and referred to him as "My president" despite being German born. He's supposed to be representing their national team and Erdogan has attacked Germany multiple times, people have a right to feel betrayed.

    Erdogan used the pictures for political gain so it may as well be an endorsement.
    Post edited by ChrisLFC on
  • Ahmer50x
    17463 posts World Class
    ChrisLFC wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Bob_Dylan wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    All this outrage over one picture. Really sad!

    it was well deserved

    Edit: the criticism that is, not the hate and racism

    He posed for a picture with the (controversial) head of state of a NATO member. He didn’t ask anyone to vote for or against him.

    To criticize Ozil for not snubbing Erdogan or leading opposition to him is unfair.

    This isn't about "not snubbing him". He and Gundogan voluntarily met up with him and referred to him as "My president" despite being German born. He's supposed to be representing their national team and Erdogan has attacked Germany multiple times, people have a right to feel betrayed.

    Erdogan used the pictures for political gain so it may as well be an endorsement.

    Don’t really have a problem with the picture as you don’t know what it’s for, but I agree that saying “My President” isn’t okay (I didn’t know that was said till now). If you’re gonna represent Germany, your leader is the German Chancellor.
  • LiveArsenal
    1336 posts Professional
    The mere fact that before the World Cup, the DFB talked with Ozil and publicly stated that "it is not a topic anymore" and then retracting that because Germany got knocked out is an absolute joke. The way the DFB handled this situation was absolute s*** imo
  • Fromage Fou
    62 posts Park Captain
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    ChrisLFC wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Bob_Dylan wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    All this outrage over one picture. Really sad!

    it was well deserved

    Edit: the criticism that is, not the hate and racism

    He posed for a picture with the (controversial) head of state of a NATO member. He didn’t ask anyone to vote for or against him.

    To criticize Ozil for not snubbing Erdogan or leading opposition to him is unfair.

    This isn't about "not snubbing him". He and Gundogan voluntarily met up with him and referred to him as "My president" despite being German born. He's supposed to be representing their national team and Erdogan has attacked Germany multiple times, people have a right to feel betrayed.

    Erdogan used the pictures for political gain so it may as well be an endorsement.

    Don’t really have a problem with the picture as you don’t know what it’s for, but I agree that saying “My President” isn’t okay (I didn’t know that was said till now). If you’re gonna represent Germany, your leader is the German Chancellor.

    It was Gundogan who wrote "my president" on a shirt he gave to Erdogan. Ozil talked about the significance of respecting the position of the Turkish president because he has Turkish roots.
  • Gervonta
    3734 posts National Call-Up
    I’m very excited to see how you do this season, a fresh new coach along with some top signings in my eyes , i really think you’ll trouble the top 4 and might secure a spot yourself.
  • arsenalap
    4634 posts National Call-Up
    Attack is definently good enough, Leno could be surprising and Cech looks in much better shape.

    We are lacking a strong CB still.. Hope we sign a good one.
  • SebCFC123
    7342 posts Big Money Move
    Arsenal and signing good cbs doesn’t exist
  • Gervonta
    3734 posts National Call-Up
    SebCFC123 wrote: »
    Arsenal and signing good cbs doesn’t exist

    Kosc has been great for a few seasons now apart from last season.
  • arsenalap
    4634 posts National Call-Up
    SebCFC123 wrote: »
    Arsenal and signing good cbs doesn’t exist

    We don't sign many.

    But.. we also never really signed a top striker in the past 10 years before last season and a top DM before this season..
  • Ahmer50x
    17463 posts World Class
    Gervonta wrote: »
    I’m very excited to see how you do this season, a fresh new coach along with some top signings in my eyes , i really think you’ll trouble the top 4 and might secure a spot yourself.

    Agreed. I was a little skeptical of Emery when he was unveiled, but the signings have been good and he should be able to challenge for a top 4 spot.

    Think City and Liverpool have 1 and 2 locked (not necessarily in that order) and United, Chelsea, Spurs, and Arsenal will be battling for 3 and 4.
  • G000ner
    4095 posts National Call-Up
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Gervonta wrote: »
    I’m very excited to see how you do this season, a fresh new coach along with some top signings in my eyes , i really think you’ll trouble the top 4 and might secure a spot yourself.

    Agreed. I was a little skeptical of Emery when he was unveiled, but the signings have been good and he should be able to challenge for a top 4 spot.

    Think City and Liverpool have 1 and 2 locked (not necessarily in that order) and United, Chelsea, Spurs, and Arsenal will be battling for 3 and 4.

    I wouldn't rule out Arsenal and Chelsea from the title before we know how they perform under their new managers. Chelsea could still sign a striker which would help their squad massively. Issue for us is that our defence is still shocking, so the title's very unlikely. Liverpool and City are definitely the favourites, I agree
  • G000ner
    4095 posts National Call-Up
    edited July 2018
    I honestly have no idea how we'll line up for the new season tbh. One of Mkhi, Ozil or Laca could be left out, or we could play Torreira-Ramsey as a two, which would leave Torreira very isolated. Or we could play Xhaka-Torreira, but then we'd be leaving out one of our best players in Ramsey. Which one would you play out of these?

    Leno
    Bellerin-Chambers/new CB-Sokratis-Kolasinac
    Ramsey-Torreira-Xhaka
    Mkhi-Laca-Auba

    Leno
    Bellerin-Chambers/new CB-Sokratis-Kolasinac
    Ramsey-Torreira-Xhaka
    Ozil-Auba-Mkhi

    Leno
    Bellerin-Chambers/new CB-Sokratis-Kolasinac
    Ramsey-Torreira-Xhaka
    Ozil-Laca-Auba

    Leno
    Bellerin-Chambers/new CB-Sokratis-Kolasinac
    Ramsey-Torreira
    Mkhi-Ozil-Auba
    Laca

    Leno
    Bellerin-Chambers/new CB-Sokratis-Kolasinac
    Torreira-Xhaka
    Mkhi-Ozil-Auba
    Laca
  • Tornado31619
    16585 posts World Class
    One of the bottom two.
  • Ahmer50x
    17463 posts World Class
    G000ner wrote: »
    Leno
    Bellerin-Chambers/new CB-Sokratis-Kolasinac
    Ramsey-Torreira
    Mkhi-Ozil-Auba
    Laca

    Has to be this one. You don’t have the level of team where you can afford to leave the likes of Ramsey, Ozil, Mkhi, Auba, or Laca out.
  • Retro_G
    28279 posts Player of the Year
    It doesn't matter how you line up, you're still finishing outside the top 4.
  • Tornado31619
    16585 posts World Class
    :lol:
  • G000ner
    4095 posts National Call-Up
    Retro_G wrote: »
    It doesn't matter how you line up, you're still finishing outside the top 4.

    Why do you think that? Because of last season when we had a different manager and worse players? Or because you're telling yourself anything to make you believe United will finish inside the top 4? United are in a group with us, Spurs and Chelsea. It's difficult to say which two make top four tbh.
  • Ahmer50x
    17463 posts World Class
    G000ner wrote: »
    Retro_G wrote: »
    It doesn't matter how you line up, you're still finishing outside the top 4.

    Why do you think that? Because of last season when we had a different manager and worse players? Or because you're telling yourself anything to make you believe United will finish inside the top 4? United are in a group with us, Spurs and Chelsea. It's difficult to say which two make top four tbh.

    My money would be on Spurs and Chelsea, if I'm honest.

    Spurs are solid if not improving and Chelsea seem to get a new manager bounce every two years or so.

    United are in the pre-detonation phase of Mourinho season 3 and Arsenal will, as an institution, have some growing pains in succeeding an omnipresent manager like Wenger.
  • G000ner
    4095 posts National Call-Up
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Retro_G wrote: »
    It doesn't matter how you line up, you're still finishing outside the top 4.

    Why do you think that? Because of last season when we had a different manager and worse players? Or because you're telling yourself anything to make you believe United will finish inside the top 4? United are in a group with us, Spurs and Chelsea. It's difficult to say which two make top four tbh.

    My money would be on Spurs and Chelsea, if I'm honest.

    Spurs are solid if not improving and Chelsea seem to get a new manager bounce every two years or so.

    United are in the pre-detonation phase of Mourinho season 3 and Arsenal will, as an institution, have some growing pains in succeeding an omnipresent manager like Wenger.

    Spurs aren't really doing anything to improve their squad, though. I feel like they've peaked and it's downhill from here, but I may be wrong. Chelsea's problem is their squad. Who do they replace Courtois with when he leaves? Who do they play striker? I'm not impressed by their defence either. All four teams have their frailties, which is why I think it's hard to predict
  • Gervonta
    3734 posts National Call-Up
    G000ner wrote: »
    Retro_G wrote: »
    It doesn't matter how you line up, you're still finishing outside the top 4.

    Why do you think that? Because of last season when we had a different manager and worse players? Or because you're telling yourself anything to make you believe United will finish inside the top 4? United are in a group with us, Spurs and Chelsea. It's difficult to say which two make top four tbh.

    I agree with this , we aren’t a certainty to finish top 4 , Maureen will probably detonate mid season after we languish mid table from all the boring defensive football he’ll cook up while the other 5 teams go out and win games attacking teams and scoring goals.

  • IntoxicatedSeal
    1421 posts Professional
    Fancy Arsenal to beat Spurs to the top four tbh

    I think Tottenham have been pushing their luck with that squad and this is the season they are exposed.
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