The 4231 formation guide (Gameplay video added)

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  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    edited June 2018
    Salama wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    Salama wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    On a different note guys, are any of you planning on doing these one nation WL?

    Good to hear your team works!

    I usually play seasons at div 3-4 and SB on legendary, I started FUT in December. As a git gud challenge I've been trying to qualify for WL this week. I can just about reach the final :sweat: but the prime icon French teams just kick my butt!

    My 1 nation team:

    T Firmino
    Neymar 95 - T Talisca - T Douglas Costa
    T Fabinho - T Allan
    Alex Sandro - T Marquinhos - Thiago Silva - FB Peres
    IF Ederson 87

    Subs: IF Gustavo 85, IF Jesus 85, David Luiz

    It's almost my normal squad, but without the strong Calcio defence.

    I still have 5 attempts left (if I can find the time), so wish me luck...

    Good luck mate, I hope you qualify for it, team looks great. Which of the above teams do you reckon will be better?

    It's tooo damn haaarrdd... just struggled to get back from 0-2 to 2-2 in the last minutes, against a 41212 team with R9, Pele and Ronaldinho as the attacking trio, only to lose 3-4 at penalties. :s gonna go out and enjoy the sun, and maybe try again later.

    good on yer for trying - keep going, different standard players` play diff times of day
    sun - where R U?

    Easiest time to qualify is the last day of the DKT, so Thursday evening I find much easier
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional


    Where would Allan/ Hamsik play? CDM? As sub I'd go Felipe Anderson, he's better all round[/quote]

    Yea LCDM. My RCDM is 9goalsin. And awesome, I was thinking that. I appreciate it.

  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move

    Where would Allan/ Hamsik play? CDM? As sub I'd go Felipe Anderson, he's better all round

    Yea LCDM. My RCDM is 9goalsin. And awesome, I was thinking that. I appreciate it.

    [/quote]

    I'd go Allan as CDM, Hamsik is h/m workrates and Nainggolan is h/h, you'd get caught out defensively a lot with Hamsik there
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    selb wrote: »

    I'd go Allan as CDM, Hamsik is h/m workrates and Nainggolan is h/h, you'd get caught out defensively a lot with Hamsik there[/quote]

    Thanks man!

  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    Hamsik would play ccam!

    He's already got TOTS SMS at CCAM
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    Hamsik would play ccam!


    Yea he'd be great if I didnt luckbox a 95 Savic hahaha. I got him and 92 Marquinhos in the same pack and thought that's what you always get lol.
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    Hamsik would play ccam!


    Yea he'd be great if I didnt luckbox a 95 Savic hahaha. I got him and 92 Marquinhos in the same pack and thought that's what you always get lol.

    Play sms st cdm and Hamsik as ccam. Sms is not good as ccam, Hamsik is better there. Sms as attacking cdm would be amazing

    He's still gonna get caught out defensively due to not having a specialised CDM, it's always better to have a CDM who has high defensive workrates and lower attack workrates, especially if you have an attack minded second CDM
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    selb wrote: »
    Hamsik would play ccam!


    Yea he'd be great if I didnt luckbox a 95 Savic hahaha. I got him and 92 Marquinhos in the same pack and thought that's what you always get lol.

    Play sms st cdm and Hamsik as ccam. Sms is not good as ccam, Hamsik is better there. Sms as attacking cdm would be amazing

    He's still gonna get caught out defensively due to not having a specialised CDM, it's always better to have a CDM who has high defensive workrates and lower attack workrates, especially if you have an attack minded second CDM

    The other cdm should be a real cdm, if not this formation is not good for him.

    That's what I'm saying, the CDM he currently has is Nainggolan, who isn't a true CDM, which is why I advised Allan
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    Hamsik would play ccam![/quote

    Play sms st cdm and Hamsik as ccam. Sms is not good as ccam, Hamsik is better there. Sms as attacking cdm would be amazing


    Yea, Ive seen that a lot actually, he's all over the pitch. He was def underused defensively when I played 4312 narrow. But my problem with that is that Savic is such a HUGE crutch for me offensively, I'd feel a little uneasy without him up top. I also have a bit of a problem getting my CMs/CDMs involved on attack. But I havn't really used the 4231 yet, so when I work on it tonight I'll try em at CAM and CDM.

  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    edited June 2018
    I apologize for my garbage quoting skills lmao
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    selb wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    Hamsik would play ccam!


    Yea he'd be great if I didnt luckbox a 95 Savic hahaha. I got him and 92 Marquinhos in the same pack and thought that's what you always get lol.

    Play sms st cdm and Hamsik as ccam. Sms is not good as ccam, Hamsik is better there. Sms as attacking cdm would be amazing

    He's still gonna get caught out defensively due to not having a specialised CDM, it's always better to have a CDM who has high defensive workrates and lower attack workrates, especially if you have an attack minded second CDM

    The other cdm should be a real cdm, if not this formation is not good for him.

    That's what I'm saying, the CDM he currently has is Nainggolan, who isn't a true CDM, which is why I advised Allan

    Ah sorry yes. But allan is not ideal more as second cdm because his height is a problem . I would try to make a hybrid with Fabinho tots

    Height is not an issue for Allan, the guys a pitbull on steroids, he would be fine as a second more defensive CDM
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    Yea I was worried about allans height, thats the only reason I even consideren Ham at CDM. I need to focus more on the workrates like you said, so I'll look into a true CDM.
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    Yea I was worried about allans height, thats the only reason I even consideren Ham at CDM. I need to focus more on the workrates like you said, so I'll look into a true CDM.

    tbh there aren't many good true CDMs from Serie A, what's your team and how many coins you got?
  • nextqprmanager
    3333 posts National Call-Up
    Guys, Ive got Maldini 88 + Ramos nif CB`s
    using Alex Sandro + Walker nifs atm
    Im saving hopefully 150k +
    What would be the best defence behind De Gea 90 ?, thx
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    Guys, Ive got Maldini 88 + Ramos nif CB`s
    using Alex Sandro + Walker nifs atm
    Im saving hopefully 150k +
    What would be the best defence behind De Gea 90 ?, thx

    Hopefully they wouldn't be behind DDG coz they'd be in the goal ;)

    Seriously though, I'd put as high a Walker as you can get at RB, Maldini RCB, Ramos LCB and as high a Alba as you can get at LB
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    Guys, Ive got Maldini 88 + Ramos nif CB`s
    using Alex Sandro + Walker nifs atm
    Im saving hopefully 150k +
    What would be the best defence behind De Gea 90 ?, thx

    De ligt arias combo

    Dude, if you're gonna give advice at least read who he's got, he doesn't need a CB coz he's got 88 Maldini and Ramos at CB
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    @SPACIALIST09 what's your team and how many coins you got?
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    selb wrote: »
    Yea I was worried about allans height, thats the only reason I even consideren Ham at CDM. I need to focus more on the workrates like you said, so I'll look into a true CDM.

    tbh there aren't many good true CDMs from Serie A, what's your team and how many coins you got?

    Blanc 85 does a good job don’t look at his stats look at the reviews



    Ok I'll take a look at Blanc tonight! And I don't have much coins wise. I have like 20k and play a decent amount so I can make prob around 80k-150k a week if I'm saving. I can also sell some guys I've been holding onto like D Costa and D Ali (fitness) that arent in my starting rotation anymore
  • nextqprmanager
    3333 posts National Call-Up
    selb wrote: »
    Guys, Ive got Maldini 88 + Ramos nif CB`s
    using Alex Sandro + Walker nifs atm
    Im saving hopefully 150k +
    What would be the best defence behind De Gea 90 ?, thx

    Hopefully they wouldn't be behind DDG coz they'd be in the goal ;)

    Seriously though, I'd put as high a Walker as you can get at RB, Maldini RCB, Ramos LCB and as high a Alba as you can get at LB

    Thank you
    have you tried Gaya?, or Icons Zanetti?, Can`t afford Carlos?
    that`s what I`ll aim for probably Alba + Walker
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    selb wrote: »
    Guys, Ive got Maldini 88 + Ramos nif CB`s
    using Alex Sandro + Walker nifs atm
    Im saving hopefully 150k +
    What would be the best defence behind De Gea 90 ?, thx

    Hopefully they wouldn't be behind DDG coz they'd be in the goal ;)

    Seriously though, I'd put as high a Walker as you can get at RB, Maldini RCB, Ramos LCB and as high a Alba as you can get at LB

    Thank you
    have you tried Gaya?, or Icons Zanetti?, Can`t afford Carlos?
    that`s what I`ll aim for probably Alba + Walker

    Ive had TOTS Gaya, he was great all round, only sold coz of Alba
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    selb wrote: »
    @SPACIALIST09 what's your team and how many coins you got?


    And team is 89 Dybala lcam, 87 mertens rcam, 95 savic cam, 87 immobile st.

    81 allan lcdm 86 n9goal rcdm.

    Reg sandro lb 94 koulibaly cb 84 Khedira cb and birthday peres rb.

    Got miranda, hamsik, d costa, felipe anderson on bench. Anderson as super sub
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    selb wrote: »
    @SPACIALIST09 what's your team and how many coins you got?


    And team is 89 Dybala lcam, 87 mertens rcam, 95 savic cam, 87 immobile st.

    81 allan lcdm 86 n9goal rcdm.

    Reg sandro lb 94 koulibaly cb 84 Khedira cb and birthday peres rb.

    Got miranda, hamsik, d costa, felipe anderson on bench. Anderson as super sub

    The only thing really that you'd be able to do, if you want a good, true CDM, is to get an Icon, there aren't many in Serie A
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    selb wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    @SPACIALIST09 what's your team and how many coins you got?


    And team is 89 Dybala lcam, 87 mertens rcam, 95 savic cam, 87 immobile st.

    81 allan lcdm 86 n9goal rcdm.

    Reg sandro lb 94 koulibaly cb 84 Khedira cb and birthday peres rb.

    Got miranda, hamsik, d costa, felipe anderson on bench. Anderson as super sub

    The only thing really that you'd be able to do, if you want a good, true CDM, is to get an Icon, there aren't many in Serie A


    Ok I'll keep that in mind when saving up. I think I'm going to get a formidable cdm and then start saving. I have so many holes in my game I need to fix (def great skill movers, defending guys who can open up space for through balls, skill moves, passing with a purpose to open space, using 1-2 and run button more effectively, scoring from more angles) and I wont be able to determin what positions need upgrading first until I fix those huge leaks.

    Man div 3 and up is a wakeup call. I could blow by 10-4 doing just the things i'm good at. Boy have I gotten picked apart thpugh my people who now what they are doing.
  • Salama
    1305 posts Professional
    selb wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    @SPACIALIST09 what's your team and how many coins you got?


    And team is 89 Dybala lcam, 87 mertens rcam, 95 savic cam, 87 immobile st.

    81 allan lcdm 86 n9goal rcdm.

    Reg sandro lb 94 koulibaly cb 84 Khedira cb and birthday peres rb.

    Got miranda, hamsik, d costa, felipe anderson on bench. Anderson as super sub

    The only thing really that you'd be able to do, if you want a good, true CDM, is to get an Icon, there aren't many in Serie A


    Ok I'll keep that in mind when saving up. I think I'm going to get a formidable cdm and then start saving. I have so many holes in my game I need to fix (def great skill movers, defending guys who can open up space for through balls, skill moves, passing with a purpose to open space, using 1-2 and run button more effectively, scoring from more angles) and I wont be able to determin what positions need upgrading first until I fix those huge leaks.

    Man div 3 and up is a wakeup call. I could blow by 10-4 doing just the things i'm good at. Boy have I gotten picked apart thpugh my people who now what they are doing.

    IF Allan was great for me before I got TOTS Allan & TOTS Fabinho.
  • kentftw
    160 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited June 2018
    sup dudes

    need to grind the weekend league to get rewards for Gullit SBC. Need to buy an icon then do Litamen and then I'm almost there for my first icon ;)

    I don't want to buy anyone specifically for it though, / spend alot of money on it. I can stretch to buying one or two non-informs for this one nation thing. can you guys advise which squad I should use (will change formation in game), out of what I have in my club already? first instinct is Brazil and then England as fitness perhaps

    and if I should go Brazil, how should I set up? I.E. not sure who to have as striker

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  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    edited June 2018
    kentftw wrote: »
    sup dudes

    need to grind the weekend league to get rewards for Gullit SBC. Need to buy an icon then do Litamen and then I'm almost there for my first icon ;)

    I don't want to buy anyone specifically for it though, / spend alot of money on it. I can stretch to buying one or two non-informs for this one nation thing. can you guys advise which squad I should use (will change formation in game), out of what I have in my club already? first instinct is Brazil and then England as fitness perhaps

    and if I should go Brazil, how should I set up? I.E. not sure who to have as striker

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    kZqsVnL.png

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    Brazil is definitely better imo, Cristiano ST, Firmino CCAM and then I'm sure you can figure the rest out, nice team btw, this is what I'm gonna roll with

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20180613-230347.png.

    In game obviously
  • kentftw
    160 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    selb wrote: »
    kentftw wrote: »
    sup dudes

    need to grind the weekend league to get rewards for Gullit SBC. Need to buy an icon then do Litamen and then I'm almost there for my first icon ;)

    I don't want to buy anyone specifically for it though, / spend alot of money on it. I can stretch to buying one or two non-informs for this one nation thing. can you guys advise which squad I should use (will change formation in game), out of what I have in my club already? first instinct is Brazil and then England as fitness perhaps

    and if I should go Brazil, how should I set up? I.E. not sure who to have as striker

    jVVswH0.png



    kZqsVnL.png

    OvLO6rI.png

    Brazil is definitely better imo, Cristiano ST, Firmino CCAM and then I'm sure you can figure the rest out, nice team btw, this is what I'm gonna roll with

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20180613-230347.png.

    In game obviously

    Cheers @selb yeah quite lucky to have that lying around in club (most gonna go into gullit sbc); that’s an awesome team you buy that or just happy to have it in your club??


    U recommend I get ederson and Alex Sandro (to play right back) NIFs? Or just Wendell at rb? and should I start Paulinho to play aside Gustavo, or start Casemiro ? Guess Andersen and Naldo are only massive weak links really ; but can bring Jesus in off bench for andersen

  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    kentftw wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    kentftw wrote: »
    sup dudes

    need to grind the weekend league to get rewards for Gullit SBC. Need to buy an icon then do Litamen and then I'm almost there for my first icon ;)

    I don't want to buy anyone specifically for it though, / spend alot of money on it. I can stretch to buying one or two non-informs for this one nation thing. can you guys advise which squad I should use (will change formation in game), out of what I have in my club already? first instinct is Brazil and then England as fitness perhaps

    and if I should go Brazil, how should I set up? I.E. not sure who to have as striker

    jVVswH0.png



    kZqsVnL.png

    OvLO6rI.png

    Brazil is definitely better imo, Cristiano ST, Firmino CCAM and then I'm sure you can figure the rest out, nice team btw, this is what I'm gonna roll with

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20180613-230347.png.

    In game obviously

    Cheers @selb yeah quite lucky to have that lying around in club (most gonna go into gullit sbc); that’s an awesome team you buy that or just happy to have it in your club??


    U recommend I get ederson and Alex Sandro (to play right back) NIFs? Or just Wendell at rb? and should I start Paulinho to play aside Gustavo, or start Casemiro ? Guess Andersen and Naldo are only massive weak links really ; but can bring Jesus in off bench for andersen

    I had to buy 4 of the players but the rest were either untradeable from TOTS SBC or in my first team already.

    Brazil don't have any really great GK so I just went with the best of a bad bunch and is definitely recommend replacing your RB, again there's no great Brazilian RB so just get a LB on 7 chem with a decent wf though. I would start Casemiro with Gustavo and have one on balanced and the other stay back.

    Have you got any coins to upgrade Naldo and Anderson?
  • kentftw
    160 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    selb wrote: »
    kentftw wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    kentftw wrote: »
    sup dudes

    need to grind the weekend league to get rewards for Gullit SBC. Need to buy an icon then do Litamen and then I'm almost there for my first icon ;)

    I don't want to buy anyone specifically for it though, / spend alot of money on it. I can stretch to buying one or two non-informs for this one nation thing. can you guys advise which squad I should use (will change formation in game), out of what I have in my club already? first instinct is Brazil and then England as fitness perhaps

    and if I should go Brazil, how should I set up? I.E. not sure who to have as striker

    jVVswH0.png



    kZqsVnL.png

    OvLO6rI.png

    Brazil is definitely better imo, Cristiano ST, Firmino CCAM and then I'm sure you can figure the rest out, nice team btw, this is what I'm gonna roll with

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20180613-230347.png.

    In game obviously

    Cheers @selb yeah quite lucky to have that lying around in club (most gonna go into gullit sbc); that’s an awesome team you buy that or just happy to have it in your club??


    U recommend I get ederson and Alex Sandro (to play right back) NIFs? Or just Wendell at rb? and should I start Paulinho to play aside Gustavo, or start Casemiro ? Guess Andersen and Naldo are only massive weak links really ; but can bring Jesus in off bench for andersen

    I had to buy 4 of the players but the rest were either untradeable from TOTS SBC or in my first team already.

    Brazil don't have any really great GK so I just went with the best of a bad bunch and is definitely recommend replacing your RB, again there's no great Brazilian RB so just get a LB on 7 chem with a decent wf though. I would start Casemiro with Gustavo and have one on balanced and the other stay back.

    Have you got any coins to upgrade Naldo and Anderson?

    I’ve bought Sandro and ederson, playing Sandro on the left and telles on the right !
    I’ve only got 50k so not enough to buy some awesome players. And I would just sell them or submit to a sbc after the one nation thing stops. Who do you think to replace Naldo and Andersen? Thiago Silva and Willian?

    Then that would be me buying 4 players just like you haha ! :smiley:
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    kentftw wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    kentftw wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    kentftw wrote: »
    sup dudes

    need to grind the weekend league to get rewards for Gullit SBC. Need to buy an icon then do Litamen and then I'm almost there for my first icon ;)

    I don't want to buy anyone specifically for it though, / spend alot of money on it. I can stretch to buying one or two non-informs for this one nation thing. can you guys advise which squad I should use (will change formation in game), out of what I have in my club already? first instinct is Brazil and then England as fitness perhaps

    and if I should go Brazil, how should I set up? I.E. not sure who to have as striker

    jVVswH0.png



    kZqsVnL.png

    OvLO6rI.png

    Brazil is definitely better imo, Cristiano ST, Firmino CCAM and then I'm sure you can figure the rest out, nice team btw, this is what I'm gonna roll with

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20180613-230347.png.

    In game obviously

    Cheers @selb yeah quite lucky to have that lying around in club (most gonna go into gullit sbc); that’s an awesome team you buy that or just happy to have it in your club??


    U recommend I get ederson and Alex Sandro (to play right back) NIFs? Or just Wendell at rb? and should I start Paulinho to play aside Gustavo, or start Casemiro ? Guess Andersen and Naldo are only massive weak links really ; but can bring Jesus in off bench for andersen

    I had to buy 4 of the players but the rest were either untradeable from TOTS SBC or in my first team already.

    Brazil don't have any really great GK so I just went with the best of a bad bunch and is definitely recommend replacing your RB, again there's no great Brazilian RB so just get a LB on 7 chem with a decent wf though. I would start Casemiro with Gustavo and have one on balanced and the other stay back.

    Have you got any coins to upgrade Naldo and Anderson?

    I’ve bought Sandro and ederson, playing Sandro on the left and telles on the right !
    I’ve only got 50k so not enough to buy some awesome players. And I would just sell them or submit to a sbc after the one nation thing stops. Who do you think to replace Naldo and Andersen? Thiago Silva and Willian?

    Then that would be me buying 4 players just like you haha ! :smiley:

    Haha, I'm not sure on the CB tbh, my TOTS Naldo seems to be getting sliced like nothing! I think those two you mentioned are probably the best you can get in your budget
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