The 4231 formation guide (Gameplay video added)

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  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    On a different note guys, are any of you planning on doing these one nation WL?
  • Chalmo
    538 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Chalmo wrote: »
    Salama wrote: »
    How should Up lay 4231?
    My striker is never involved

    Is it a problem really, if you're winning? My 3 CAMs and striker share the workload. I can never get 1.00+ goal ratios with this formation - more like 0.5-0.7 for striker and CCAM and 0.3-0.4 for wide CAMs. Also my Fabinho at LCAM scores more than 0.1 per game.

    Firmino ST / Talisca CCAM has been great. Both can hold the ball while the other runs, and both finish from near and far.

    Yeah I agree with you @Salama [email protected]
    At first, I was like « Damn, my striker has less than 1.0 »
    But then I realize that my whole team was equally involved and I’m ok with it. And I think Firmino is a good choice at STsince he can hold the ball, give a good pass back, score from outside the box, score headers, and enough pace ... Complete forward.

    I guess he earned his spot in my team and I really enjoy playing the game at the moment :)

    Do you think ram is quality agüero tots and firmino as dt

    @StrikeForce01 That is my current set up and it's totally fine. Aguero has the highest Assist ratio.

    TOTS Firmino
    TOTS Dybala - TOTS De Bruyne - TOTS Aguero
    Blanc - TOTS Nainggolan
    NIF Sandro - TOTS Benatia - TOTS Azpilicueta - NIF Walker
    NIF De Gea
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    Nice attacking power @Chalmo
  • Chalmo
    538 posts An Exciting Prospect
    And yeah, @selb has a point here :)
    All we can do is give our own reviews but it doesn't mean it will apply to you @StrikeForce01 :)

    I'm not doing One Nation WL. I actually don't play WL at all ahah
  • Chalmo
    538 posts An Exciting Prospect
    selb wrote: »
    Nice attacking power @Chalmo

    Yeah and more than this, I enjoy playing with it. and isn't it the main goal of a game? :)
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    Chalmo wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    Nice attacking power @Chalmo

    Yeah and more than this, I enjoy playing with it. and isn't it the main goal of a game? :)

    That is a very valid point that I think a lot of people forget, this is a game, it's about relaxing, taking your mind away from the real world for a bit and having fun.
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    You know what @Chalmo, I don't blame you one bit for not playing WL, it's a nightmare sometimes, I don't generally get to play all 40 games as I actually have a life outside of FIFA but I do get maybe 15-20 games, in which I can usually get anywhere between 11 and 18 wins, depending on how bothered i am, the rewards at this point arent even really worth it either
  • Chalmo
    538 posts An Exciting Prospect
    selb wrote: »
    You know what @Chalmo, I don't blame you one bit for not playing WL, it's a nightmare sometimes, I don't generally get to play all 40 games as I actually have a life outside of FIFA but I do get maybe 15-20 games, in which I can usually get anywhere between 11 and 18 wins, depending on how bothered i am, the rewards at this point arent even really worth it either

    Yeah I think I tried 2-3 times max this year (it's actually my full first year playing the FUT mode) and it was too much. I mainly play Squad Battles (I feel like the rewards in this mode are decent considering the time needed to get it, even tho I never pack one good thing ahaha). A bit of Online divisions (got to D2 and didn't take the time to try more). And finally a lot of trading since I didn't put any money in the game. Trading was fun tho.
    Oh and hours of creating teams on Futbin, does it count? xD
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    @Salama i made the the switch (Gullit and Talisca) and I've gotta say, Talisca is bossing it in CCAM position, he's played 4 games and got 5 goals and 6 assists, Gullit is also doing a great job at CDM with his PI on balanced, im glad i listened to what you said
  • DougInskip
    6500 posts League Winner
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?

    Slow down your playstyle

    I'd agree with this, I find that if I'm rushing my play it all pretty much goes through the middle but if I slow it down just a tad I can get my wide players involved including my full backs
  • DougInskip
    6500 posts League Winner
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?

    Slow down your playstyle

    I'd agree with this, I find that if I'm rushing my play it all pretty much goes through the middle but if I slow it down just a tad I can get my wide players involved including my full backs

    Cheers, it’s prime Dinho and tots Messi so don’t want to waste them :joy:
  • DougInskip
    6500 posts League Winner
    DougInskip wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?

    Slow down your playstyle

    I'd agree with this, I find that if I'm rushing my play it all pretty much goes through the middle but if I slow it down just a tad I can get my wide players involved including my full backs

    Cheers, it’s prime Dinho and tots Messi so don’t want to waste them :joy:

    Play all on 50 cts

    @StrikeForce01 so all default? Any PIS?
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    DougInskip wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?

    Slow down your playstyle

    I'd agree with this, I find that if I'm rushing my play it all pretty much goes through the middle but if I slow it down just a tad I can get my wide players involved including my full backs

    Cheers, it’s prime Dinho and tots Messi so don’t want to waste them :joy:

    I'm surprised you can't get them into the game, maybe it's the workrates too
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    DougInskip wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?

    Slow down your playstyle

    I'd agree with this, I find that if I'm rushing my play it all pretty much goes through the middle but if I slow it down just a tad I can get my wide players involved including my full backs

    Cheers, it’s prime Dinho and tots Messi so don’t want to waste them :joy:

    Play all on 50 cts

    @StrikeForce01 so all default? Any PIS?

    Have a look at the CT i posted on the last page or 2, the second lot seem to be doing well for me
  • DougInskip
    6500 posts League Winner
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?

    Slow down your playstyle

    I'd agree with this, I find that if I'm rushing my play it all pretty much goes through the middle but if I slow it down just a tad I can get my wide players involved including my full backs

    Cheers, it’s prime Dinho and tots Messi so don’t want to waste them :joy:

    Play all on 50 cts

    @StrikeForce01 so all default? Any PIS?

    Have a look at the CT i posted on the last page or 2, the second lot seem to be doing well for me

    @selb cheers, you got for instructions on default? May put Messi and Dinho on stay forward
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    Which team do you think would perform better in the one nation WL guys

    1.

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20180613-230256.pngpost images.

    In this one I can swap Firmino and Jonas positions or I can get TOTS Allan instead of Jonas, play Firmino ST, Talisca CAM?

    Or 2.

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20180613-230347.png.

    In this one I can swap Malcom for Willian

    Which one do you reckon guys?
  • DougInskip
    6500 posts League Winner
    Reckon tots Suarez will work as RCAM and I put Messi as ccam
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    DougInskip wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?

    Slow down your playstyle

    I'd agree with this, I find that if I'm rushing my play it all pretty much goes through the middle but if I slow it down just a tad I can get my wide players involved including my full backs

    Cheers, it’s prime Dinho and tots Messi so don’t want to waste them :joy:

    Play all on 50 cts

    @StrikeForce01 so all default? Any PIS?

    Have a look at the CT i posted on the last page or 2, the second lot seem to be doing well for me

    @selb cheers, you got for instructions on default? May put Messi and Dinho on stay forward

    Only instructions I use are stay back on 1 CDM (or both if they're both defensive minded) and cut passing on both CDM, everything else on balanced/default
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Reckon tots Suarez will work as RCAM and I put Messi as ccam

    I think Messi would be best at CCAM but he can work at RCAM, I use TOTS Mahrez at RCAM and he's great and he's very similar to Messi so it can work
  • DougInskip
    6500 posts League Winner
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Reckon tots Suarez will work as RCAM and I put Messi as ccam

    I think Messi would be best at CCAM but he can work at RCAM, I use TOTS Mahrez at RCAM and he's great and he's very similar to Messi so it can work

    I’ll have a play around
  • SPACIALIST09
    1002 posts Professional
    edited June 2018
    Just started playing FUT and blew through online divisions up to Div 2 with 4312. Then I was just getting destroyed by high pressure and through balls, so I'm switching to this.

    Question: Would you guys rather play 81 Allan or 87 Hamsik? Also, would you rather use Reg Douglas Costa, Birthday Felipe Anderson or Reg Ribery as a super sub?

    I already have 86 mertens and 89 Dybala as L/R CAMs, 87 Immobile ST, and 95 Savic as CAM (lol got him out of my first pack and thought that was how packs work).
  • win123vn
    516 posts An Exciting Prospect
    selb wrote: »
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?
    DougInskip wrote: »
    Any tips on getting LCAM and RCAM more involved lads?

    Slow down your playstyle

    I'd agree with this, I find that if I'm rushing my play it all pretty much goes through the middle but if I slow it down just a tad I can get my wide players involved including my full backs

    do not set Stay forward
  • Salama
    1305 posts Professional
    selb wrote: »
    On a different note guys, are any of you planning on doing these one nation WL?

    Good to hear your team works!

    I usually play seasons at div 3-4 and SB on legendary, I started FUT in December. As a git gud challenge I've been trying to qualify for WL this week. I can just about reach the final :sweat: but the prime icon French teams just kick my butt!

    My 1 nation team:

    T Firmino
    Neymar 95 - T Talisca - T Douglas Costa
    T Fabinho - T Allan
    Alex Sandro - T Marquinhos - Thiago Silva - FB Peres
    IF Ederson 87

    Subs: IF Gustavo 85, IF Jesus 85, David Luiz

    It's almost my normal squad, but without the strong Calcio defence.

    I still have 5 attempts left (if I can find the time), so wish me luck...
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    Salama wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    On a different note guys, are any of you planning on doing these one nation WL?

    Good to hear your team works!

    I usually play seasons at div 3-4 and SB on legendary, I started FUT in December. As a git gud challenge I've been trying to qualify for WL this week. I can just about reach the final :sweat: but the prime icon French teams just kick my butt!

    My 1 nation team:

    T Firmino
    Neymar 95 - T Talisca - T Douglas Costa
    T Fabinho - T Allan
    Alex Sandro - T Marquinhos - Thiago Silva - FB Peres
    IF Ederson 87

    Subs: IF Gustavo 85, IF Jesus 85, David Luiz

    It's almost my normal squad, but without the strong Calcio defence.

    I still have 5 attempts left (if I can find the time), so wish me luck...

    Good luck mate, I hope you qualify for it, team looks great. Which of the above teams do you reckon will be better?
  • Salama
    1305 posts Professional
    selb wrote: »
    Salama wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    On a different note guys, are any of you planning on doing these one nation WL?

    Good to hear your team works!

    I usually play seasons at div 3-4 and SB on legendary, I started FUT in December. As a git gud challenge I've been trying to qualify for WL this week. I can just about reach the final :sweat: but the prime icon French teams just kick my butt!

    My 1 nation team:

    T Firmino
    Neymar 95 - T Talisca - T Douglas Costa
    T Fabinho - T Allan
    Alex Sandro - T Marquinhos - Thiago Silva - FB Peres
    IF Ederson 87

    Subs: IF Gustavo 85, IF Jesus 85, David Luiz

    It's almost my normal squad, but without the strong Calcio defence.

    I still have 5 attempts left (if I can find the time), so wish me luck...

    Good luck mate, I hope you qualify for it, team looks great. Which of the above teams do you reckon will be better?

    Use both mate, depending on your opponents style and formation!

    Against 41212 and 4231 use 4231.

    If there's room in the middle: use 41212-2.

    I play 41212 with

    Neymar - Jesus/Costa
    Firmino
    Talisca - Allan
    Fabinho
    ...

    I'm not a great player, but I think I can usually adapt to my opponent's tactics in the first 30 minutes of the game. Except for that fast 4312 counter, which I hate playing against. I'm gonna try 442 next or matching with the same 4312.
  • selb
    6807 posts Big Money Move
    Just started playing FUT and blew through online divisions up to Div 2 with 4312. Then I was just getting destroyed by high pressure and through balls, so I'm switching to this.

    Question: Would you guys rather play 81 Allan or 87 Hamsik? Also, would you rather use Reg Douglas Costa, Birthday Felipe Anderson or Reg Ribery as a super sub?

    I already have 86 mertens and 89 Dybala as L/R CAMs, 87 Immobile ST, and 95 Savic as CAM (lol got him out of my first pack and thought that was how packs work).

    Where would Allan/ Hamsik play? CDM? As sub I'd go Felipe Anderson, he's better all round
  • Salama
    1305 posts Professional
    selb wrote: »
    Salama wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    On a different note guys, are any of you planning on doing these one nation WL?

    Good to hear your team works!

    I usually play seasons at div 3-4 and SB on legendary, I started FUT in December. As a git gud challenge I've been trying to qualify for WL this week. I can just about reach the final :sweat: but the prime icon French teams just kick my butt!

    My 1 nation team:

    T Firmino
    Neymar 95 - T Talisca - T Douglas Costa
    T Fabinho - T Allan
    Alex Sandro - T Marquinhos - Thiago Silva - FB Peres
    IF Ederson 87

    Subs: IF Gustavo 85, IF Jesus 85, David Luiz

    It's almost my normal squad, but without the strong Calcio defence.

    I still have 5 attempts left (if I can find the time), so wish me luck...

    Good luck mate, I hope you qualify for it, team looks great. Which of the above teams do you reckon will be better?

    It's tooo damn haaarrdd... just struggled to get back from 0-2 to 2-2 in the last minutes, against a 41212 team with R9, Pele and Ronaldinho as the attacking trio, only to lose 3-4 at penalties. :s gonna go out and enjoy the sun, and maybe try again later.
  • nextqprmanager
    3350 posts National Call-Up
    Salama wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    Salama wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    On a different note guys, are any of you planning on doing these one nation WL?

    Good to hear your team works!

    I usually play seasons at div 3-4 and SB on legendary, I started FUT in December. As a git gud challenge I've been trying to qualify for WL this week. I can just about reach the final :sweat: but the prime icon French teams just kick my butt!

    My 1 nation team:

    T Firmino
    Neymar 95 - T Talisca - T Douglas Costa
    T Fabinho - T Allan
    Alex Sandro - T Marquinhos - Thiago Silva - FB Peres
    IF Ederson 87

    Subs: IF Gustavo 85, IF Jesus 85, David Luiz

    It's almost my normal squad, but without the strong Calcio defence.

    I still have 5 attempts left (if I can find the time), so wish me luck...

    Good luck mate, I hope you qualify for it, team looks great. Which of the above teams do you reckon will be better?

    It's tooo damn haaarrdd... just struggled to get back from 0-2 to 2-2 in the last minutes, against a 41212 team with R9, Pele and Ronaldinho as the attacking trio, only to lose 3-4 at penalties. :s gonna go out and enjoy the sun, and maybe try again later.

    good on yer for trying - keep going, different standard players` play diff times of day
    sun - where R U?
  • Salama
    1305 posts Professional
    Salama wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    Salama wrote: »
    selb wrote: »
    On a different note guys, are any of you planning on doing these one nation WL?

    Good to hear your team works!

    I usually play seasons at div 3-4 and SB on legendary, I started FUT in December. As a git gud challenge I've been trying to qualify for WL this week. I can just about reach the final :sweat: but the prime icon French teams just kick my butt!

    My 1 nation team:

    T Firmino
    Neymar 95 - T Talisca - T Douglas Costa
    T Fabinho - T Allan
    Alex Sandro - T Marquinhos - Thiago Silva - FB Peres
    IF Ederson 87

    Subs: IF Gustavo 85, IF Jesus 85, David Luiz

    It's almost my normal squad, but without the strong Calcio defence.

    I still have 5 attempts left (if I can find the time), so wish me luck...

    Good luck mate, I hope you qualify for it, team looks great. Which of the above teams do you reckon will be better?

    It's tooo damn haaarrdd... just struggled to get back from 0-2 to 2-2 in the last minutes, against a 41212 team with R9, Pele and Ronaldinho as the attacking trio, only to lose 3-4 at penalties. :s gonna go out and enjoy the sun, and maybe try again later.

    good on yer for trying - keep going, different standard players` play diff times of day
    sun - where R U?

    Northern Europe.
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