41212(2), 4312... Narrow formations don't work anymore??

Kojima8
1084 posts Professional
I have always used one of those two formations... and after the patch I have been having a very very hard time using the narrow formations. Are they just not as strong as they used to be?

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  • SeanDCFC
    2657 posts Fans' Favourite
    If it's not working for you change formation.
  • SSs_Stephen1
    72 posts Park Captain
    Kojima8 wrote: »
    I have always used one of those two formations... and after the patch I have been having a very very hard time using the narrow formations. Are they just not as strong as they used to be?

    I feel exactly the same, hope Ea can tell us more about the patch notes
  • Kojima8
    1084 posts Professional
    Kojima8 wrote: »
    I have always used one of those two formations... and after the patch I have been having a very very hard time using the narrow formations. Are they just not as strong as they used to be?

    I feel exactly the same, hope Ea can tell us more about the patch notes

    I really love the two striker CAM combo. I'm hoping they will come back into play soon
  • tatadwader
    2423 posts Fans' Favourite
    Used to go with 41212-2. After trying about everything else, I'm on 4231-2 for this WL.

    Target Man!
  • Viggo 007
    12248 posts Has That Special Something
    tatadwader wrote: »
    Used to go with 41212-2. After trying about everything else, I'm on 4231-2 for this WL.

    Target Man!

    Same
  • randomhero1090
    5627 posts Big Money Move
    I'm struggling with 41212(2) as well. 4321 a bit better. But honestly 4411 or 4231(2) might be my play this WL.
  • Kojima8
    1084 posts Professional
    I'm struggling with 41212(2) as well. 4321 a bit better. But honestly 4411 or 4231(2) might be my play this WL.

    I'd like my wingers to be really involved and score for me as well. You think 4411 or 4231(2) would be decent for that?
  • Viggo 007
    12248 posts Has That Special Something
    I'm struggling with 41212(2) as well. 4321 a bit better. But honestly 4411 or 4231(2) might be my play this WL.

    Yep, after playing 20 matches post patch i feel like I need width in attack to get advantage of fullbacks bumping up the pitch
  • Passano
    101 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Viggo 007 wrote: »
    I'm struggling with 41212(2) as well. 4321 a bit better. But honestly 4411 or 4231(2) might be my play this WL.

    Yep, after playing 20 matches post patch i feel like I need width in attack to get advantage of fullbacks bumping up the pitch

    Yep. Players are pressing higher again (because they can't sit back and hold contain for 90 minutes anymore) so width is more important now. I think narrow formations still work but with the recent changes benefit from a more slower style of play because of the lack of width, you need to attack with your full backs more.

    I'm having great success with the false 9 formation with quick short passing. I might try out 451 flat next week as I got some good custom tactics for that formation.
  • Viggo 007
    12248 posts Has That Special Something
    Passano wrote: »
    Viggo 007 wrote: »
    I'm struggling with 41212(2) as well. 4321 a bit better. But honestly 4411 or 4231(2) might be my play this WL.

    Yep, after playing 20 matches post patch i feel like I need width in attack to get advantage of fullbacks bumping up the pitch

    Yep. Players are pressing higher again (because they can't sit back and hold contain for 90 minutes anymore) so width is more important now. I think narrow formations still work but with the recent changes benefit from a more slower style of play because of the lack of width, you need to attack with your full backs more.

    I'm having great success with the false 9 formation with quick short passing. I might try out 451 flat next week as I got some good custom tactics for that formation.

    Try:
    48
    36
    O

    49
    52
    52
    F

    52
    55
    52
    C


    Defensive on dpad




    They work with every formation, only thing I change is organized in chance creation if its a narrow formation
  • BenzP7
    8316 posts League Winner
    4312 is still working for me. I went 24-1-0 in last three seasons in d1.
  • PsychosisTime
    837 posts An Exciting Prospect
    I still play 4-1-2-1-2(2) and since patch have went from div 3 to 1. Although I did 'get good' at game!
  • Passano
    101 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Viggo 007 wrote: »
    Passano wrote: »
    Viggo 007 wrote: »
    I'm struggling with 41212(2) as well. 4321 a bit better. But honestly 4411 or 4231(2) might be my play this WL.

    Yep, after playing 20 matches post patch i feel like I need width in attack to get advantage of fullbacks bumping up the pitch

    Yep. Players are pressing higher again (because they can't sit back and hold contain for 90 minutes anymore) so width is more important now. I think narrow formations still work but with the recent changes benefit from a more slower style of play because of the lack of width, you need to attack with your full backs more.

    I'm having great success with the false 9 formation with quick short passing. I might try out 451 flat next week as I got some good custom tactics for that formation.

    Try:
    48
    36
    O

    49
    52
    52
    F

    52
    55
    52
    C


    Defensive on dpad




    They work with every formation, only thing I change is organized in chance creation if its a narrow formation

    Yeah I will give them a blast. My defensive settings are similar(ish) 65 - 55 - 45 - C. I always play with crossing on 37 as I think it's perfect for low crosses and cut backs. Shooting I tweak depending on formation. 451 flat, for example, I bump to 66 so midfielders burst into the box more.

    I would have thought with those tactics you would be fine with 41212 (2). I played 4312 exclusively last year on possession. Maybe try lowering your speed to around 20 and reduce passing to safe and cage your opponent in their half and have fun watching them defend more manually ;)

  • Pranav
    800 posts Semi-Pro
    4321 and 41212(2) are still working for but that is seasons the real test will be weekend league which starts in an hour
  • Viggo 007
    12248 posts Has That Special Something
    edited January 2017
    Passano wrote: »
    Viggo 007 wrote: »
    Passano wrote: »
    Viggo 007 wrote: »
    I'm struggling with 41212(2) as well. 4321 a bit better. But honestly 4411 or 4231(2) might be my play this WL.

    Yep, after playing 20 matches post patch i feel like I need width in attack to get advantage of fullbacks bumping up the pitch

    Yep. Players are pressing higher again (because they can't sit back and hold contain for 90 minutes anymore) so width is more important now. I think narrow formations still work but with the recent changes benefit from a more slower style of play because of the lack of width, you need to attack with your full backs more.

    I'm having great success with the false 9 formation with quick short passing. I might try out 451 flat next week as I got some good custom tactics for that formation.

    Try:
    48
    36
    O

    49
    52
    52
    F

    52
    55
    52
    C


    Defensive on dpad




    They work with every formation, only thing I change is organized in chance creation if its a narrow formation

    Yeah I will give them a blast. My defensive settings are similar(ish) 65 - 55 - 45 - C. I always play with crossing on 37 as I think it's perfect for low crosses and cut backs. Shooting I tweak depending on formation. 451 flat, for example, I bump to 66 so midfielders burst into the box more.

    I would have thought with those tactics you would be fine with 41212 (2). I played 4312 exclusively last year on possession. Maybe try lowering your speed to around 20 and reduce passing to safe and cage your opponent in their half and have fun watching them defend more manually ;)

    I just played 2 matches with 4231(2) and in the last one I created more chances in 10 mins after I switched to 41212 than in all those 110 mins in that game. :D Guess I won't get rid of 41212 anytime soon
  • Germantraider
    367 posts Sunday League Hero
    edited January 2017
    Dont think its the Patch. For me it Change every week:( im very good in making a very fast attack. Creating only very good chances. So Most time my oponnent have more possesion and Shots. Im Not good in Hold the Ball and have mich possesion.
    So i Used every FIFA formations with wingers. At the Moment 4-3-2-1. My Problem is that sometimes its the perfect Formation and sometimes i Feeling like this Formation is crap. I played with so much different formations succesfull and a Moment later its crap. its mysterious in my opinion how often its Change
  • 4312 is still working for me. I went 24-1-0 in last three seasons in d1.
    I still play 4-1-2-1-2(2) and since patch have went from div 3 to 1. Although I did 'get good' at game!

    Can you tell me your CTs / Instructions please.
    I still want to play with 4312 and 41212(2), but after Patch it doesnt work for me, dont know why?
  • paul24878306
    5787 posts Big Money Move
    Felt the same, sold teams, switched formations. If anything it got worse.

    Had been using 41212(2) and never liked 4312 as it's mot as defensively sound, with less width in the mids post patch 4312 is now working for me.

    For some reason the midfielders are working better defensively. Better blocking of thorough balls, better tracking back meaning less of a need for a Cdm. fullbacks no staying back actually helps the width.

    So far my best Wl eith this formation.

    I do use one target mam snd one fast striker though, not all pace.
  • 4312 is still working for me. I went 24-1-0 in last three seasons in d1.
    I still play 4-1-2-1-2(2) and since patch have went from div 3 to 1. Although I did 'get good' at game!

    Can you tell me your CTs / Instructions please.
    I still want to play with 4312 and 41212(2), but after Patch it doesnt work for me, dont know why?

    Anybody?
  • Kojima8
    1084 posts Professional
    4312 is still working for me. I went 24-1-0 in last three seasons in d1.
    I still play 4-1-2-1-2(2) and since patch have went from div 3 to 1. Although I did 'get good' at game!

    Can you tell me your CTs / Instructions please.
    I still want to play with 4312 and 41212(2), but after Patch it doesnt work for me, dont know why?

    Anybody?

    id like to know as well.
  • DeanoZoff
    4929 posts Big Money Move
    Seems like all the people that used 41212(2) with full backs staying back, are struggling now.

    What a shame
  • DeanoZoff wrote: »
    Seems like all the people that used 41212(2) with full backs staying back, are struggling now.

    What a shame

    What do you want?

    We need/want help, If you do not need it, then be quiet!
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