Crush high pressure opponents - The updated 433(2) guide (New CT's etc)

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Remzy69
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edited April 2016
Crush high pressure opponents
A 433(2) guide by Remzy69


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1. Introduction

I have been wandering around these forums for quite some time now, enjoying to read different topics. I never really posted a lot before, but I think something was kind of missing in the guides section. A proper guide to 433(2) and a guide to beating high pressure by using possession play.
Since almost everyone in FUT and Online Seasons is using high pressure, it will be very usefull if you know how to play against it.
This will be my first guide ever, so please don’t be hard on me.

Background
I have been playing FIFA since 96 and online since FIFA 13. I really enjoy playing FUT and Online Season and in both I have won Division 1 a couple of times. I will not say I’m super good, I think I’m an average player. But this is what most of you guys out here are, so that’s why this will be a good read for you.

Why 433(2)?
I’m a big fan of Barcelona in real life, since their play is just magical at times. In my opinion the best way to beat high pressure is possession play.
I have tried all formations this year and couldn’t really settle with any of them for possession play.
I have always been playing 433(2) in the past, but it looks so standard and dull. Nevertheless I switched back to it and started tweaking the formation a little bit and I’m at a point now that I’m more than satisfied with the results.
In my opinion 433(2) is the best way to keep possession and still be dangerous and unpredictable.

Pro’s:
Possession play (Average will be at 55-70% if you master it)
Versatile
Balanced
Good against high pressure

Con’s:
You need some patience to master this way of playing


2. The formation explained

There are different ways of playing with this formation, as it is very balanced. You can choose to make the game, like Barcelona or Bayern does, which means you will have possession for most of the time. You can also choose to give the ball to your opponent and sit back for a counter attack, more like Real Madrid does.
I always start off trying to make the game and this will work 9 out of 10 times. It will result in a lot of possesion, I have games where I reach 70%, which is a lot in FIFA.
Sometimes the opponent is just better than you are in holding possession. In this case I try to find the open spots in his formation when he is attacking. You need to be sharp on counter attacks.
A big part of the learning curve will be adapting to your opponents and using this formation to it’s maximum potential.

Possession play
I have tried the possession custom tactic and I quite like it, but it limits you in the build up speed. I will explain about custom tactics later on.
The best way to dominate possession, is getting out of your own half quickly as possible and moving the game up the pitch.
So how do we actually move the game up the pitch?

Starting from the GK to the midfield:
There are some options here… It kind of depends on how your opponent is playing. For example, if he’s using 3 strikers pressing you CB’s, I do not recommend you throwing or kicking the ball to them, because the risk of losing the ball will result in a goal 9 out of 10 times. Also the trick of giving it to the fullbacks is known by a lot of people now, so try to find out as quickly as possible if he is covering them, use the radar!

Scenario 1: He is not pressing your defence, which is the most ideal situation. Give the ball to your CB’s or LB/RB. From there you can switch it up to the CDM. He is actually one of the most important factors in starting your attack. He is in the centre of the field, which means, he can reach a lot of players. I use a lot of 1/2 passes between my LB/RB and CDM to move the game up the pitch. If you can make a run, or go past a player with your LB/RB, DO IT! It will give you a huge amount of space. Be carefull with going past players with your CDM, because losing the ball here is a very dangerous place.
I always use as a rule of thumb: take risks on the wings, because you are not vulnerable there. Try to take as less risk as possible with your CDM and CB’s.
With possession play it’s really important not to lose the ball at your own half, because you are very vulnerable here. What also helps when getting out of your own half is passing the ball to the winger with the fullback. Use r1 + pass, so the ball won't be intercepted. When taking the ball with the winger, use the shield function. This helps when your opponent is trying to take the ball.

Scenario 2: He is pressing the back 4, and has your CB’s and FB’s are covered. No problems at all, see if you CDM is free, if not your LCM, RCM will definitely be. Throw the ball and build from there. If you are kicking, your wingers will be available most of the times as wel. Using the radar here is crucial.

Scenario 3: He kind of has all your players covered because he is using high pressure. This can be a problem, but doesn’t need to be. It all depends on the striker you are playing. Which ofcourse I will explain later on. If you are using a target man, this scenario will be no problem for you, because you can kick to ball to him and he will win 9 out of 10 headers.

Midfield to attack:
So I suppose that you made it over the midline by now. Don’t rush it! Stay calm.
Try to progress slowly from here. Because now the rest of your team can move up the pitch as well. This creates a massive trap for your opponnent, because when you lose the ball now, there are 10 players in this area who can put pressure and win the ball back.
This is also a rule of thumb: When you lose the ball in your opponents half, put pressure and win it back within 5 seconds. This will work a lot of times and this is how Barcelona and Bayern play as well. This is why they have 70% possession or more! Not because they are playing the ball around in the back, but because they move the play up the pitch and work their **** off when they lose it.

Attacking:
Does not need a lot of explaining, but I’ll give you some tips. In this formation, you will not have a topscorer. Because you play possession based, anyone can score, even your CDM. Try to make 1-2 combo’s and find open spaces. For example my 2 CM’s score a lot of goals with longshots, but also because they got in the box by using a 1-2 pass.
How many goals your ST will score, depends on the ST you are using. A targetman will score less goals, but will have a lot of assists. A jack of all trades will average these numbers. A quick agile ST, will score a lot, but I do not recommend this type of ST in this formation, I will explain why later on.
How much your wingers will score, depends on how good they are at finishing, I see a lot of people using wingers like Bolasie, Ibarbo, etc. They are indeed very fast and very strong. But everytime I face these kind of wingers, I see them missing 9 out of 10 chances. Pace and strength are not the attributes I look for in my wingers for this formation. Passing, dribbling and finishing will get you the results you want. How great is it to have a winger that can deliver accurate passes and give a good cross. As well as scoring almost every chance he gets.
Enough said. Let’s move on to the specific players for this formation.

3. The players
Note: I'm going to give you my recommendations per league. I will only cover the big leagues. It speaks for itself that an IF always is better than the NIF.


GK:
People always say, use the GK you like. I do not agree with this. There are stats on a GK that are very important in this formation. Since we are playing a possession based game, he must be a good thrower and kicker. These stats are most important. Every GK stops goals in this game, since they are already OP.
I personally think diving and reflexes are overrated. 75+ is more than sufficient.
Height is very usefull for stopping longshots, but the negative side is that you mostly get slow GK’s. I prefer quicker ones, because this formation is countered at times and you will need him to rush out quickly if that happens.
So in short: look for good kicking, decent overall stats and if possible long thrower trait.

BPL: Courtois, Cech, De Gea, Hart, Begovic
BBVA: Diego Alves, Oblak, Navas
Serie A: Handanovic
Bundesliga: Neuer, Leno, Fahrmann
Ligue 1: Sirigu, Trapp, Mandanda


CB’s:
I try to work with CB’s that have good passing stats, since they are responsible for the build up play to your LB/RB and CDM. If they have bad passing, it will be very hard to do this properly.
Important stats in my opinion here are: Standing tackle, Sliding tackle, Passing, Strength and heading.
The most ideal CB is a guy that is good with the ball and can defend solidly.
Unfortunately there are not a lot of these around. Therefore you can choose to pair a CB as described above with a solid CB, who is good at defending and heading, some strength does help as well. Pace does matter but is not most important. I do advise you to always have at least one quick CB, which in most cases also is the ball playing defender.
Also I advice you to use a left footed player as a LCB and a right footed player as RCB. This helps you make less mistakes in passing when distributing the ball to a fullback or winger.

Best ball playing CB's:

BPL: Koscielny, Vertonghen
BBVA: Pique, Vermaelen, Godin, Ramos
Serie A: Bonucci, De Vrij
Bundesliga: Hummels, Javi Martinez, Matip, Naldo, Boateng,
Ligue 1: Thiago Silva, David Luiz, Nkoulou

Best solid CB's:

BPL: Kompany, Otamendi, Mangala
BBVA: Laporte, Varane,
Serie A: Chiellini, Miranda, Manolas, Koulibaly
Bundesliga: Benatia, Howedes, Sokratis,
Ligue 1: Perrin, Umtiti,

Best pairing: 2 ball playing CB’s, with solid defending stats, for example David Luiz + Thiago Silva is a really good combo. Pique + Ramos is also very effective. Boateng + Hummels as well. And so on.
Solid pairing: 1 ball playing CB with a solid defender.

Workrates: I don't notice any difference, so really don't bother. Standard instruction on a CB is to stay back, this overrules workrates.

LB/RB:
These guys will be a great addition to our attacking line, so they really need to be complete players. Passing, crossing, longshots, defending, they have to do it all. They will be running over the pitch for the whole game, so stamina is also something to look for. Pace is important, because they have to cover a lot of field.

BPL: Holebas, Baines, Azp, Clyne, Walker, Bellerin, Zabaleta
BBVA: Jordi Alba, Marcelo, Filipe Luis, Gaya, Dani Alves, De Marcos, Danilo
Serie A: Alex Sandro, Peres, Lichtsteiner, Florenzi
Bundesliga: Alaba, Rodriguez, Piszcek, Lahm
Ligue 1: Kurzawa, Van der Wiel, Aurier

CDM:
One of the crucial spots in your team and also a tough one to pick, since there are so many different types of midfielders. Basically what’s important for this player is building the game and intercepting passes. I personally prefer a player that has good short and long passing.

BPL: Fernandinho
BBVA: Busquets, Bruno
Serie A: Marchisio, Naingolan, Pjanic
Bundesliga: Vidal, Lahm, Xabi Alonso
Ligue 1: Matuidi, Moutinho

CM’s:
Here you have 3 combinations in my opinion:
Playmaker + playmaker
Playmaker + Box-To-Box
Box-To-Box + Box-To-Box

This really comes down to personal preference. I like to play with two playmakers, because it makes your attack more fluid. I also had great results using a playmaker + box-to-box, which is a more balanced way of playing
I always try to have at least one CM with good long shots, because it is just a great weapon to have. I don’t care for pace on these players, passing and dribbling is crucial. When you do use a box-to-box midfielder, stamina will come in handy, because they will cover a lot of field.

BPL: De Bruyne, Eriksen, Coutinho
BBVA: Iniesta, Modric, Rakitic
Serie A: Pogba, Hamsik, Pereyra, Marchisio
Bundesliga: Vidal, Thiago, Gundogan, Castro
Ligue 1: Di Maria, Pastore, Verratti

LW/RW:
Pace is not the most important attribute, but there is a minimum requirement here, you must be able to beat most CB’s, so I advice 80+. You are looking for a winger that is good at finishing, passing and dribbling.

BPL: Shaqiri, Hazard, Mirallas, Willian, Sanchez
BBVA: Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Griezmann, Bale, Konoplyanka
Serie A: Cuadrado, Candreva, Felipe Anderson, Insigne
Bundesliga: Reus, Ribery, Robben, Douglas Costa
Ligue 1: Di Maria, Lucas, Ntep

ST:
Last but not least, in fact, the player that makes or breaks this formation. As you see, there is a lot of space in the midfield with this formation. Your ST will be an important factor in keeping the ball in your opponents half. I think there are 3 kind of strikers: Target man, Jack of all trades, Fast striker.
I'm going to keep it simple for you. You need a striker that is able to hold up the ball and deliver a good pass. These are my favorites:

BPL: Giroud is the only one I can think off, I don't like the BPL strikers.
BBVA: Suarez, Benzema, Aduriz
Serie A: Higuain, Mandzukic
Bundesliga: Lewandowski
Ligue 1: Ibrahimovic

4. Custom tactics and player instructions

I'm using this at the moment:
95/20/FF
25/25/25/FF
85/75/25/C
Best CT I have used this FIFA, got me 2 8-0-0 div 1 wins in row. I created this myself, so it really suits the way I play. I encourage you to play around with the settings untill you are satisfied.

Player instructions:
This is where you can mess up a lot actually. I have tried a lot of different settings and they never really worked for me. I always try to keep everything standard as possible, to stay unpredictable. I will change things because of a players workrates etc.
I think player instructions are a great tool to get the maximum out of a player and you should change them accordingly. For example you should not set Ibra on get in behind, because he isn’t that kind of striker. If you put target man on him, I promise you he will be 10 times better.

This is what I use now:
CB: Standard
LB/RB: Standard (When I have slow backs I put stay back on behind, because they won't be able to track the winger back).
CDM: Stay back while attacking
CM’s: Standard
LW/RW: Cut inside
ST: Standard

5. Conclusion

Well guys this is it. I had a lot of fun writing this. If you have any questions, just ask them and I will answer you asap. It would be nice to see what squads you guys are using, but if you want I can build you one.
I do strongly advise you to experiment with this and not to give up in the first 20 games. The learning curve is hard, but once you get the hang of it, you can ‘play beautiful’ and in my opinion that’s how football should be, it will make the game a lot more fun.

Squad I’m currently using:

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Comments

  • BlitzersNL
    24145 posts Club Captain
    Really good guide mate, sweet attack on that squad ;)
  • Spurs1123
    1939 posts Fans' Favourite
    Great Read! thanks for posting! may give the formation a try now.
  • Remzy69
    2102 posts Fans' Favourite
    BlitzersNL wrote: »
    Really good guide mate, sweet attack on that squad ;)
    Thanks man, really appreciate you read it :smiley:
    The attack is the best I have had so far in FUT!
    Aduriz: 11 games, 13 goals, 8 assists
    Nolito: 11 games, 4 goals, 5 assists
    Turan: 11 games, 3 goals, 3 assists
    Spurs1123 wrote: »
    Great Read! thanks for posting! may give the formation a try now.
    Good luck trying it out and let me know if I can help you out with something :wink:
  • greenhorn33
    30 posts Last Pick at the Park
    Great read! I am also a big fan of the 433(2) and use Barcelona’s tactics and player instructions. The formation is great for possession and allows for multiple types of attacking: feeding the wingers, throwing in crosses, slow build up with everyone getting involved in passing it around the attacking third. It’s all possible.

    Here’s the team I’ve been enjoying the most.

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  • ukler8
    4742 posts National Call-Up
    Looks good! Bookmarked.
  • MrShenanigans
    619 posts Sunday League Hero
    I personally dont like 433 formations, except the false 9 variation.
    But its a very well written guide, congratz.
  • Remzy69
    2102 posts Fans' Favourite
    Great read! I am also a big fan of the 433(2) and use Barcelona’s tactics and player instructions. The formation is great for possession and allows for multiple types of attacking: feeding the wingers, throwing in crosses, slow build up with everyone getting involved in passing it around the attacking third. It’s all possible.

    Here’s the team I’ve been enjoying the most.

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    That looks like a fun squad! I'm not a big fan of Sterling by seeing his stats, never tried him, how is he?
  • Barslund
    4644 posts National Call-Up
    edited December 2015
    Really like the setup, but think I prefer the false 9, as you get the ST/CF much more involved and gets the wingers more involved.
    But it's one of the formations that allows you to use the largest kind og different players in the team.
  • Remzy69
    2102 posts Fans' Favourite
    Barslund wrote: »
    Really like the setup, but think I prefer the false 9, as you get the ST/CF much more involved and gets the wingers more involved.

    I like the False 9 a lot as well, it feels a lot more compact. But I always had trouble scoring with the CF and I found that in 433(2), my strikers scores a lot more. If you put him on Target man he will drop back deep as well and it kinda plays like a false 9.
  • Verstappen
    4173 posts National Call-Up
    I'm rly on the bad luck atm, but 433 2 seems pretty good

    My team is a cheap one

    Ter Stegen

    Tremoulinas
    Pepe
    Godin
    De Marcos

    Krychowiak(but will change for Busquets)
    Rakitic
    Koke (Great, but i rly want to use Kroos or Iniesta)

    Konoplyanka(Feels pretty poor sometimes)
    Aduriz (Upgrading to IF, the NIF is class)
    Vela (Should Turan work on RW?)
  • greenhorn33
    30 posts Last Pick at the Park
    Remzy69 wrote: »
    That looks like a fun squad! I'm not a big fan of Sterling by seeing his stats, never tried him, how is he?

    He works out pretty well, so agile he can work his way into dangerous spots in the box and usually feed Costa or lay it off for Fabregas. His finishing can let me down on the break, but I rarely find myself in that situation.
  • Remzy69
    2102 posts Fans' Favourite
    Verstappen wrote: »
    I'm rly on the bad luck atm, but 433 2 seems pretty good

    My team is a cheap one

    Ter Stegen

    Tremoulinas
    Pepe
    Godin
    De Marcos

    Krychowiak(but will change for Busquets)
    Rakitic
    Koke (Great, but i rly want to use Kroos or Iniesta)

    Konoplyanka(Feels pretty poor sometimes)
    Aduriz (Upgrading to IF, the NIF is class)
    Vela (Should Turan work on RW?)

    That looks pretty good, but you can make some changes that will really do your squad good.

    I'd say Konoplyanka isn't great, because of his M/M workmates. You could try putting him on 'stay forward'. Have you tried Nolito? He is really amazing for his price.
    Aduriz is just pure class and his IF is even better :smile:
    I'm not a fan of Vela, I'm personally using Turan's IF, which is pretty good, but don't expect him to be a scoring machine.

    What do you think about this squad?
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    I changed it a little bit, but I think this will play really well.
  • Crespo86
    528 posts Sunday League Hero
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    My setup at the moment Ozil and Muller are amazing in this form one playmaker one box to box and effenberg makes the whole team tick

    Not sure on bellerabi might change him for if podolski
  • Hurleybird10
    518 posts An Exciting Prospect
    also been using this formation.... really like it..... from the cms i think its best to have an attacking mid and a box to box player
  • Verstappen
    4173 posts National Call-Up
    Remzy69 wrote: »
    Verstappen wrote: »
    I'm rly on the bad luck atm, but 433 2 seems pretty good

    My team is a cheap one

    Ter Stegen

    Tremoulinas
    Pepe
    Godin
    De Marcos

    Krychowiak(but will change for Busquets)
    Rakitic
    Koke (Great, but i rly want to use Kroos or Iniesta)

    Konoplyanka(Feels pretty poor sometimes)
    Aduriz (Upgrading to IF, the NIF is class)
    Vela (Should Turan work on RW?)

    That looks pretty good, but you can make some changes that will really do your squad good.

    I'd say Konoplyanka isn't great, because of his M/M workmates. You could try putting him on 'stay forward'. Have you tried Nolito? He is really amazing for his price.
    Aduriz is just pure class and his IF is even better :smile:
    I'm not a fan of Vela, I'm personally using Turan's IF, which is pretty good, but don't expect him to be a scoring machine.

    What do you think about this squad?
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    I changed it a little bit, but I think this will play really well.

    I think i will continue with Vela. Turan looks more an solid RM than RW
    Konoplyanka disease is rly thr workrates. Apart of Nani and Quaresma, any M/M winger seems to be dead on the team. I will try IF Nolito who looks complete.

    The squad looks pretty good. Thanks.
  • Remzy69
    2102 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited December 2015
    Crespo86 wrote: »

    My setup at the moment Ozil and Muller are amazing in this form one playmaker one box to box and effenberg makes the whole team tick

    Not sure on bellerabi might change him for if podolski

    Damn, what a squad. Looks really amazing! Have you tried Douglas Costa already, his skills are a nice weapon to have.
    also been using this formation.... really like it..... from the cms i think its best to have an attacking mid and a box to box player

    That's the most balanced option indeed.
    Verstappen wrote: »
    Remzy69 wrote: »
    Verstappen wrote: »
    I'm rly on the bad luck atm, but 433 2 seems pretty good

    My team is a cheap one

    Ter Stegen

    Tremoulinas
    Pepe
    Godin
    De Marcos

    Krychowiak(but will change for Busquets)
    Rakitic
    Koke (Great, but i rly want to use Kroos or Iniesta)

    Konoplyanka(Feels pretty poor sometimes)
    Aduriz (Upgrading to IF, the NIF is class)
    Vela (Should Turan work on RW?)

    That looks pretty good, but you can make some changes that will really do your squad good.

    I'd say Konoplyanka isn't great, because of his M/M workmates. You could try putting him on 'stay forward'. Have you tried Nolito? He is really amazing for his price.
    Aduriz is just pure class and his IF is even better :smile:
    I'm not a fan of Vela, I'm personally using Turan's IF, which is pretty good, but don't expect him to be a scoring machine.

    What do you think about this squad?
    16ixikm.png
    I changed it a little bit, but I think this will play really well.

    I think i will continue with Vela. Turan looks more an solid RM than RW
    Konoplyanka disease is rly thr workrates. Apart of Nani and Quaresma, any M/M winger seems to be dead on the team. I will try IF Nolito who looks complete.

    The squad looks pretty good. Thanks.

    Turan is better at CM or RM, I do agree with you, but for my play style he functions well at the RW.
    Good luck with IF Nolito, you will not regret it :wink:
  • illinifan
    8676 posts League Winner
    Nice guide, I use this formation for my Bundesliga squad every year.
  • Remzy69
    2102 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited December 2015
    Show us your team @illinifan
  • Ewanos
    617 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Great guide, i'm a huge fan of the 433(2) and tiki taka gameplay. In H2H I can execute it most of the times, but in FUT i'm struggling. Will try and adapt your tips!
  • Ewanos
    617 posts An Exciting Prospect
    What do you think of SIF Kruse as a ST in a 433(2)?
  • Remzy69
    2102 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited December 2015
    Ewanos wrote: »
    Great guide, i'm a huge fan of the 433(2) and tiki taka gameplay. In H2H I can execute it most of the times, but in FUT i'm struggling. Will try and adapt your tips!
    The new patch just made it a little bit easier. Hope you succeed using my tips!
    Ewanos wrote: »
    What do you think of SIF Kruse as a ST in a 433(2)?
    His card looks really good, I really like his passing and shooting stats, i think can be really lethal as a CM, because he has the right stats and workrates for that position.
    Honestly I wouldn't use him as a striker in this system, I'd go with Lewandowski or Muller, since they are much taller, stronger and have better heading, which are important stats to me.
    But you can always try him out, see how he functions for you.
  • COACH
    20494 posts Club Captain
    Great work!
  • in2lpnc
    136 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Nice guide! For a Bundesliga with part of Seria A squad, what would you think it would work?
    I really like Muller (IRL also).

    Reus - Lewa/Muller - Costa/Bellarabi
    Vidal - Lahm - Gotze/Thiago/Muller
    Alaba - Boateng - Chiellini - Lich
    Buffon
  • Crespo86
    528 posts Sunday League Hero
    @Remzy69 Yer I tried Costa and did like him but I like ozils left foot on that side I find him more effective on the right
  • Crespo86
    528 posts Sunday League Hero
    in2lpnc wrote: »
    Nice guide! For a Bundesliga with part of Seria A squad, what would you think it would work?
    I really like Muller (IRL also).

    Reus - Lewa/Muller - Costa/Bellarabi
    Vidal - Lahm - Gotze/Thiago/Muller
    Alaba - Boateng - Chiellini - Lich
    Buffon

    Go for muller- lahm- ozil if you can that midfield is amazing ozil and muller together is such a nice combination its wat I use and is super effective
  • Crespo86
    528 posts Sunday League Hero
    Remzy69 wrote: »
    Ewanos wrote: »
    Great guide, i'm a huge fan of the 433(2) and tiki taka gameplay. In H2H I can execute it most of the times, but in FUT i'm struggling. Will try and adapt your tips!
    The new patch just made it a little bit easier. Hope you succeed using my tips!
    Ewanos wrote: »
    What do you think of SIF Kruse as a ST in a 433(2)?
    His card looks really good, I really like his passing and shooting stats, i think can be really lethal as a CM, because he has the right stats and workrates for that position.
    Honestly I wouldn't use him as a striker in this system, I'd go with Lewandowski or Muller, since they are much taller, stronger and have better heading, which are important stats to me.
    But you can always try him out, see how he functions for you.

    I have kruse sif as my back up cm and he's class as a more attacking mid use the instructions get forward and get into box for crosses
  • BistroXII
    1970 posts Play-Off Hero
    Good stuff!!
  • Pedroninho2015
    508 posts Sunday League Hero
    best ligue 1 for you?
  • BerserkCo
    163 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Great effort appreciaate the effort u put into tge guide.reading these makes the forum worth a visit.
  • Chet
    487 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Great guide, this has been my go-to formation getting to div1. Playing possession with this formation can be vulnerable to the counter-attacking style but you could say the same for most formations.
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