2022 World Cup Thread

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  • Cyodine
    6731 posts Big Money Move
    Shshj wrote: »
    Interested to see what the consensus is in here.

    You’re the FA - it’s Saturday night and England have just lost to France. Do you stick with Southgate or begin the hunt for his successor?

    If you’re making a change, who’s your top target?

    No shame to losing to France, they're the previous winners and have some of the best talent in the world. If you don't win against them ,then he probably deserves the sack as this is a very good England side. Probably 5-6 players will not be playing at their current level in 2026, so you'll need someone who can build around the upcoming young English talent. I doubt Kane will be the main man in 2026, and SG has already managed England through two WC's so a fresh face isn't a bad idea.
  • Stlducks
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    Cyodine wrote: »
    Shshj wrote: »
    Interested to see what the consensus is in here.

    You’re the FA - it’s Saturday night and England have just lost to France. Do you stick with Southgate or begin the hunt for his successor?

    If you’re making a change, who’s your top target?

    No shame to losing to France, they're the previous winners and have some of the best talent in the world. If you don't win against them ,then he probably deserves the sack as this is a very good England side. Probably 5-6 players will not be playing at their current level in 2026, so you'll need someone who can build around the upcoming young English talent. I doubt Kane will be the main man in 2026, and SG has already managed England through two WC's so a fresh face isn't a bad idea.

    Looking at the ages and how you can predict some players will decline, most of the defense plus Kane, Sterling and Wilson will have to be replaced by 2026. Some might be in the squad still but they won’t be as important as they are now.

    If a new manager is out there who is better, after this WC is the time to bring them in and let them start refreshing the squad. 2 WCs plus the Euros and Nations League is enough for one international manager.
  • SimenHP
    6036 posts Big Money Move
    It's hard not to enjoy Japan.
  • Pietu
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    How is Maeda 25?
  • AaronMFC
    2846 posts Fans' Favourite
    VVD4 wrote: »
    AaronMFC wrote: »
    AaronMFC wrote: »
    Southgate out awfully quiet right now. Will be loud once we lose to France though.

    Been away boys what’s the crack

    Do you expect people to be complaining after a 3-0 win and a good performance. The way we play against France will obviously change peoples minds. If we just sit off the entire game dont counter attack and deservedly lose then I will happily be saying Southgate out again. Losing to France isnt an issue they are a great team if I see us play with fear again then I will say Southgate out.

    Well that’s the issue is that you can’t just be flakey after every performance if we do well you don’t complain and if we don’t you do. Be consistent. The guys only lost two tournament games and those were against good teams in late stages. We had one draw against a decent US team in the group stage and everyone was on his back

    It's not being flaky looking at the bigger picture. I think we have played well for the most part in this tournament. If we show we haven't learnt anything when we play France what's the point. This doesn't mean win the game it means don't lose the exact same way we have been. If we don't i think it's perfectly reasonable to be unhappy.

    So what happens if we attack France/play like we have been playing and get smashed 3-0 as a result?

    100% we will get people saying that we should have played a more conservative way to maximise our chances of progressing to the next round and that Southgate was naive to think we could win by playing good football.

    Realistically speaking, our best hope of progression is to Mourinho the game. That doesn’t guarantee it will work, but it certainly improves our chances.

    Have a threat on the counter its not 100% attack or 100% defend. I want to see a balance we have severely lacked that against better teams in the past. We have to pick moments when we are on top in the game to try and have some spells of pressure. I don't want us to play like atletico madrid that's my point.
  • RollsReus
    2194 posts Fans' Favourite
    Perisic's heading accuracy is slept on. He's a monster.
  • Stlducks
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    RollsReus wrote: »
    Perisic's heading accuracy is slept on. He's a monster.

    If we had a RWB who could cross to the far post, Perisic would have a few goals by now. He’s so good at coming into the box in open spaces too.
  • Kellnerr
    5305 posts Big Money Move
    there's only one player I would trust to stop Mbappe

    Milner.jpg?fit=1600%2C983&ssl=1
  • Cyodine
    6731 posts Big Money Move
    Hope Japan advance.
  • Retro1989
    7604 posts League Winner
    Awful penalties
  • Kellnerr
    5305 posts Big Money Move
    Well that was ❤️❤️❤️❤️
  • Nem
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    Terrible way to go out. In hindsight, would rather my team just lose in the 90 instead of a penalty shootout like the one Japan have just experienced.

    Powderpuff efforts.
  • SimenHP
    6036 posts Big Money Move
    Great to see Japan play. They really gave everything and they fought like their whole country depended on them. I don't often see that from the "big" nations in a WC.
  • AaronMFC
    2846 posts Fans' Favourite
    Missed that game gutted for Japan they have had a fantastic tournament regardless.
  • G000ner
    9709 posts League Winner
    Japan were always losing that penalty shoot out. No experience, worse keeper, worse takers. Had to really go for it in the second half to try and get the winner then. I'm bored of Croatia, either way both would have gone out to Brazil in the next round
  • Ashy
    24485 posts Club Captain
    Question is which lucky England player is getting Mbappe's shirt?
  • Nem
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    Ashy wrote: »
    Question is which lucky England player is getting Mbappe's shirt?

    Why would anyone want a losing quarter finalists shirt?! 😏
  • G000ner
    9709 posts League Winner
    Stlducks wrote: »
    Cyodine wrote: »
    Shshj wrote: »
    Interested to see what the consensus is in here.

    You’re the FA - it’s Saturday night and England have just lost to France. Do you stick with Southgate or begin the hunt for his successor?

    If you’re making a change, who’s your top target?

    No shame to losing to France, they're the previous winners and have some of the best talent in the world. If you don't win against them ,then he probably deserves the sack as this is a very good England side. Probably 5-6 players will not be playing at their current level in 2026, so you'll need someone who can build around the upcoming young English talent. I doubt Kane will be the main man in 2026, and SG has already managed England through two WC's so a fresh face isn't a bad idea.

    Looking at the ages and how you can predict some players will decline, most of the defense plus Kane, Sterling and Wilson will have to be replaced by 2026. Some might be in the squad still but they won’t be as important as they are now.

    If a new manager is out there who is better, after this WC is the time to bring them in and let them start refreshing the squad. 2 WCs plus the Euros and Nations League is enough for one international manager.

    Kane will be fine at 33, not reliant on pace and I'm sure still performing close to his peak, just like Suarez, Lewandowski, Benzema etc were

    Sterling and Shaw will be 31, so they could easily still be performing at a high level. Sterling will likely be phased out anyway because we have more talented youngsters in his position and Shaw isn't that good.

    Maguire and Stones will be 32 which is fine for a centre back.

    The only player that won't be at the next one is probably Walker, but again right back is not an issue for us.

    I think most of this squad have another tournament for sure, but perhaps a few might become less important as you say
  • G000ner
    9709 posts League Winner
    Ashy wrote: »
    Question is which lucky England player is getting Mbappe's shirt?

    Which lucky French player is getting Saka's after his brace this weekend?
  • Ashy
    24485 posts Club Captain
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ashy wrote: »
    Question is which lucky England player is getting Mbappe's shirt?

    Which lucky French player is getting Saka's after his brace this weekend?

    careful not to mention Saka too much here man, might get jumped on by the Saka hate brigade
  • Stlducks
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    G000ner wrote: »
    Stlducks wrote: »
    Cyodine wrote: »
    Shshj wrote: »
    Interested to see what the consensus is in here.

    You’re the FA - it’s Saturday night and England have just lost to France. Do you stick with Southgate or begin the hunt for his successor?

    If you’re making a change, who’s your top target?

    No shame to losing to France, they're the previous winners and have some of the best talent in the world. If you don't win against them ,then he probably deserves the sack as this is a very good England side. Probably 5-6 players will not be playing at their current level in 2026, so you'll need someone who can build around the upcoming young English talent. I doubt Kane will be the main man in 2026, and SG has already managed England through two WC's so a fresh face isn't a bad idea.

    Looking at the ages and how you can predict some players will decline, most of the defense plus Kane, Sterling and Wilson will have to be replaced by 2026. Some might be in the squad still but they won’t be as important as they are now.

    If a new manager is out there who is better, after this WC is the time to bring them in and let them start refreshing the squad. 2 WCs plus the Euros and Nations League is enough for one international manager.

    Kane will be fine at 33, not reliant on pace and I'm sure still performing close to his peak, just like Suarez, Lewandowski, Benzema etc were

    Sterling and Shaw will be 31, so they could easily still be performing at a high level. Sterling will likely be phased out anyway because we have more talented youngsters in his position and Shaw isn't that good.

    Maguire and Stones will be 32 which is fine for a centre back.

    The only player that won't be at the next one is probably Walker, but again right back is not an issue for us.

    I think most of this squad have another tournament for sure, but perhaps a few might become less important as you say

    Kane will depend on how his ankles hold up.
    Shaw and Sterling rely on pace and I do not see that being there at 31 for them. They are both declining already.

    Stones should be fine. Maguire I cannot see being there still.

    Walker, Henderson, Wilson, Trippier, Dier and Coady will most likely be gone as well.

    That’s 9-10 players that should be replaced. Perfect for a new manager to come in with a good core and then add his players around it. Build around Bellingham, Saka, Foden, Maddison and Rice.
  • Pietu
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    Ashy wrote: »
    G000ner wrote: »
    Ashy wrote: »
    Question is which lucky England player is getting Mbappe's shirt?

    Which lucky French player is getting Saka's after his brace this weekend?

    careful not to mention Saka too much here man, might get jumped on by the Saka hate brigade

    Welcome to the club Saka fans - TAA fans
  • SimenHP
    6036 posts Big Money Move
    I will never understand why Raphinha keeps starting when Brazil has so many great wingers.
  • SimenHP
    6036 posts Big Money Move
    SimenHP wrote: »
    I will never understand why Raphinha keeps starting when Brazil has so many great wingers.

    Good assist from Raphinha (should still not be a starter) and great finish by Vini.
  • G000ner
    9709 posts League Winner
    This going to be a very long night for Korea...
  • Cyodine
    6731 posts Big Money Move
    SimenHP wrote: »
    I will never understand why Raphinha keeps starting when Brazil has so many great wingers.

    Would you rather watch Antony spin in circles?
  • SimenHP
    6036 posts Big Money Move
    Now that was a beauty from start to finish.
  • G000ner
    9709 posts League Winner
    Wtf has Richarlison taken before this tournament
  • SimenHP
    6036 posts Big Money Move
    Cyodine wrote: »
    SimenHP wrote: »
    I will never understand why Raphinha keeps starting when Brazil has so many great wingers.

    Would you rather watch Antony spin in circles?

    90 minute fidget spinner. Tell me you wouldn't love that :lol:
  • Stlducks
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    Richarlison is on fire this WC
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