Remove drop back from the game

vesprino
126 posts Has Potential To Be Special
Elite, 40+ games in a row think I played 2 opponents that don't use it?

Extremely boring tactic that caters to low skilled players, remove it and allow relegation and see how many of them actually stay up, >50% will fall below div 3

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  • Wonderkiid
    4066 posts National Call-Up
    And how do you know they play drop back and it's not just the pressure that keeps them from going forward?
  • vesprino
    126 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited December 2021
    vesprino wrote: »
    Elite, 40+ games in a row think I played 2 opponents that don't use it?

    Extremely boring tactic that caters to low skilled players, remove it and allow relegation and see how many of them actually stay up, >50% will fall below div 3

    if its ps5 they cant remove it

    there whole roll out launch was showcasing hypermotion

    hypermotion is drop back and over load ball side all rolled into one

    im not sure why EA are so obsessed by helping players in defence and leaving attacking ai dumb asf

    nah xbox one previous gen, it's so repetitive i get happy when people actually try and press me off the ball, yay, i actually have to pass the ball back and forward instead of waiting for 2 mistakes so i can make it through the 7-0-2-1!
  • Wonderkiid
    4066 posts National Call-Up
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    And how do you know they play drop back and it's not just the pressure that keeps them from going forward?

    because barely any of them press you after the first pass, it's then back to control the mids as defenders scurry the box hoping they autoblock or autotackle whatever you do, you can often get one on them by playing faster then them but that doesn't make it any less of a problem. it is a tactic that closes the skillgap and helps people who are bad at defending.

    That has nothing to do with drop back though. That's just simply selecting a player and not drawing other defenders out of position by selecting them...

    It depends how you look at it. You could also see it as a skillgap as you are now complaining about it as you are struggling with it. There might be other (better) players that dont struggle with it
  • vesprino
    126 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited December 2021
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    And how do you know they play drop back and it's not just the pressure that keeps them from going forward?

    because barely any of them press you after the first pass, it's then back to control the mids as defenders scurry the box hoping they autoblock or autotackle whatever you do, you can often get one on them by playing faster then them but that doesn't make it any less of a problem. it is a tactic that closes the skillgap and helps people who are bad at defending.

    That has nothing to do with drop back though. That's just simply selecting a player and not drawing other defenders out of position by selecting them...

    It depends how you look at it. You could also see it as a skillgap as you are now complaining about it as you are struggling with it. There might be other (better) players that dont struggle with it

    I just gave you the way I usually deal with it. There is ZERO skillgap in letting the AI autoblock/autotackle for you as you leave 7 of your players on stay back whilst you hope to skill your way through a 3v3 if they make a mistake. This isn't a discussion.

    The difference with people that press me is we often get end to end football, a lot more engaging then hoping someone with 7 people in the box makes a mistake or doesn't autoblock your 20 yarder.
  • Wonderkiid
    4066 posts National Call-Up
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    And how do you know they play drop back and it's not just the pressure that keeps them from going forward?

    because barely any of them press you after the first pass, it's then back to control the mids as defenders scurry the box hoping they autoblock or autotackle whatever you do, you can often get one on them by playing faster then them but that doesn't make it any less of a problem. it is a tactic that closes the skillgap and helps people who are bad at defending.

    That has nothing to do with drop back though. That's just simply selecting a player and not drawing other defenders out of position by selecting them...

    It depends how you look at it. You could also see it as a skillgap as you are now complaining about it as you are struggling with it. There might be other (better) players that dont struggle with it

    I just gave you the way I usually deal with it. There is ZERO skillgap in letting the AI autoblock/autotackle for you as you leave 7 of your players on stay back whilst you hope to skill your way through a 3v3 if they make a mistake. This isn't a discussion.

    The difference with people that press me is we often get end to end football, a lot more engaging then hoping someone with 7 people in the box makes a mistake or doesn't autoblock your 20 yarder.

    If you want people mindlessly pressing you then you are in the wrong division my friend.

    If you can easily deal with it then you wouldnt be complaining about it. It seems to me you are struggling and you are frustrated by it. Maybe the skillgap lies between the players that don't struggle breaking it down vs players that do
  • vesprino
    126 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited December 2021
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    And how do you know they play drop back and it's not just the pressure that keeps them from going forward?

    because barely any of them press you after the first pass, it's then back to control the mids as defenders scurry the box hoping they autoblock or autotackle whatever you do, you can often get one on them by playing faster then them but that doesn't make it any less of a problem. it is a tactic that closes the skillgap and helps people who are bad at defending.

    That has nothing to do with drop back though. That's just simply selecting a player and not drawing other defenders out of position by selecting them...

    It depends how you look at it. You could also see it as a skillgap as you are now complaining about it as you are struggling with it. There might be other (better) players that dont struggle with it

    I just gave you the way I usually deal with it. There is ZERO skillgap in letting the AI autoblock/autotackle for you as you leave 7 of your players on stay back whilst you hope to skill your way through a 3v3 if they make a mistake. This isn't a discussion.

    The difference with people that press me is we often get end to end football, a lot more engaging then hoping someone with 7 people in the box makes a mistake or doesn't autoblock your 20 yarder.

    If you want people mindlessly pressing you then you are in the wrong division my friend.

    If you can easily deal with it then you wouldnt be complaining about it. It seems to me you are struggling and you are frustrated by it. Maybe the skillgap lies between the players that don't struggle breaking it down vs players that do

    just because I can deal with it doesn't mean I am not able to see a problem.. it caters to lower skilled players.

    you lack common sense or understanding, or both.
  • StopItNow552
    24 posts Last Pick at the Park
    Lol you are one of those wierdos that message me telling me not to play drop back even though I’m on balanced and 80 dept

    I guanentee you barely anyone in elite plays drop back because it doesn’t work

    Just because they don’t run at you with there cb like a headless chicken doesn’t mean they play drop back

    You probably pass the ball around and hold it too much so the game makes the defenders wait in the back
  • vesprino
    126 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited December 2021
    Lol you are one of those wierdos that message me telling me not to play drop back even though I’m on balanced and 80 dept

    I guanentee you barely anyone in elite plays drop back because it doesn’t work

    Just because they don’t run at you with there cb like a headless chicken doesn’t mean they play drop back

    You probably pass the ball around and hold it too much so the game makes the defenders wait in the back

    i'm one of the ones that gets messages, playing 75** depth and POHT

    had some guy call me the N word yesterday because he spent 90 minutes playing on the wings timewasting and drawing the game.. was different
  • Mogga
    3694 posts National Call-Up
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    And how do you know they play drop back and it's not just the pressure that keeps them from going forward?

    because barely any of them press you after the first pass, it's then back to control the mids as defenders scurry the box hoping they autoblock or autotackle whatever you do, you can often get one on them by playing faster then them but that doesn't make it any less of a problem. it is a tactic that closes the skillgap and helps people who are bad at defending.

    That has nothing to do with drop back though. That's just simply selecting a player and not drawing other defenders out of position by selecting them...

    It depends how you look at it. You could also see it as a skillgap as you are now complaining about it as you are struggling with it. There might be other (better) players that dont struggle with it

    I just gave you the way I usually deal with it. There is ZERO skillgap in letting the AI autoblock/autotackle for you as you leave 7 of your players on stay back whilst you hope to skill your way through a 3v3 if they make a mistake. This isn't a discussion.

    The difference with people that press me is we often get end to end football, a lot more engaging then hoping someone with 7 people in the box makes a mistake or doesn't autoblock your 20 yarder.

    If you want people mindlessly pressing you then you are in the wrong division my friend.

    If you can easily deal with it then you wouldnt be complaining about it. It seems to me you are struggling and you are frustrated by it. Maybe the skillgap lies between the players that don't struggle breaking it down vs players that do

    just because I can deal with it doesn't mean I am not able to see a problem.. it caters to lower skilled players.

    you lack common sense or understanding, or both.

    I agree. It does cater to lower skilled similar as constant press.

    Get rid of the lot for me, all these stupid custom tactic glitchy cheaty extras
  • vesprino
    126 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited December 2021
    Mogga wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    And how do you know they play drop back and it's not just the pressure that keeps them from going forward?

    because barely any of them press you after the first pass, it's then back to control the mids as defenders scurry the box hoping they autoblock or autotackle whatever you do, you can often get one on them by playing faster then them but that doesn't make it any less of a problem. it is a tactic that closes the skillgap and helps people who are bad at defending.

    That has nothing to do with drop back though. That's just simply selecting a player and not drawing other defenders out of position by selecting them...

    It depends how you look at it. You could also see it as a skillgap as you are now complaining about it as you are struggling with it. There might be other (better) players that dont struggle with it

    I just gave you the way I usually deal with it. There is ZERO skillgap in letting the AI autoblock/autotackle for you as you leave 7 of your players on stay back whilst you hope to skill your way through a 3v3 if they make a mistake. This isn't a discussion.

    The difference with people that press me is we often get end to end football, a lot more engaging then hoping someone with 7 people in the box makes a mistake or doesn't autoblock your 20 yarder.

    If you want people mindlessly pressing you then you are in the wrong division my friend.

    If you can easily deal with it then you wouldnt be complaining about it. It seems to me you are struggling and you are frustrated by it. Maybe the skillgap lies between the players that don't struggle breaking it down vs players that do

    just because I can deal with it doesn't mean I am not able to see a problem.. it caters to lower skilled players.

    you lack common sense or understanding, or both.

    I agree. It does cater to lower skilled similar as constant press.

    Get rid of the lot for me, all these stupid custom tactic glitchy cheaty extras

    constant press is STRONG but has one major flaw.. it absolutely ruins your stamina if you use it too much. should it be nerfed? it could be nerfed a bit.. but the stamina drain is already brutal. if you use it for one half your team will be 30% stamina max.
  • Wonderkiid
    4066 posts National Call-Up
    edited December 2021
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    And how do you know they play drop back and it's not just the pressure that keeps them from going forward?

    because barely any of them press you after the first pass, it's then back to control the mids as defenders scurry the box hoping they autoblock or autotackle whatever you do, you can often get one on them by playing faster then them but that doesn't make it any less of a problem. it is a tactic that closes the skillgap and helps people who are bad at defending.

    That has nothing to do with drop back though. That's just simply selecting a player and not drawing other defenders out of position by selecting them...

    It depends how you look at it. You could also see it as a skillgap as you are now complaining about it as you are struggling with it. There might be other (better) players that dont struggle with it

    I just gave you the way I usually deal with it. There is ZERO skillgap in letting the AI autoblock/autotackle for you as you leave 7 of your players on stay back whilst you hope to skill your way through a 3v3 if they make a mistake. This isn't a discussion.

    The difference with people that press me is we often get end to end football, a lot more engaging then hoping someone with 7 people in the box makes a mistake or doesn't autoblock your 20 yarder.

    If you want people mindlessly pressing you then you are in the wrong division my friend.

    If you can easily deal with it then you wouldnt be complaining about it. It seems to me you are struggling and you are frustrated by it. Maybe the skillgap lies between the players that don't struggle breaking it down vs players that do

    just because I can deal with it doesn't mean I am not able to see a problem.. it caters to lower skilled players.

    you lack common sense or understanding, or both.

    For starters you are complaining about drop back and the issues you are describing have nothing to do with drop back.

    Are you opening this thread in hopes of people agreeing with you or are you actually open for reasoning? The latter doesn't seem to be the case, you seem like the typical frustrated Fifa player just venting his frustration on this forum.

    Bad players pressure you, good players don't blindly pressure your players knowing it leaves them vunerable at the back. It's the reason why you can easily determine within seconds whether you are dealing with someone good or bad.
  • zambrotta619
    399 posts Sunday League Hero
    Best thing about the elite division is you play players around your skill level so OP is just moaning because it’s wednesday and a lot of people are playing to get the weekly rewards. Obv if you play on a wednesday your more likely to play people in elite around your skill level so the games will feel harder.

    If you play on random days of the week i find it can match you with someone way lower or slightly higher skill wise.
  • zambrotta619
    399 posts Sunday League Hero
    (Which you will pay for in the long run)

    OP if you try and go for an easy life, more games you win in elite the harder the opponent will be for you etc.

    So i’d just play and try and combat the issue
  • Mr. Soper
    4338 posts Big Money Move
    I don’t know how drop back works.

    But for some reason the other team always has their 2 cdms sit right in front of their cbs while my team always has a huge gap between the mid and defense
  • UoD
    504 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Mr. Soper wrote: »
    I don’t know how drop back works.

    But for some reason the other team always has their 2 cdms sit right in front of their cbs while my team always has a huge gap between the mid and defense

    Sounds like you are using drop back on a very low depth. Leading to massive gaps between the lines.
  • Boysie91
    16187 posts World Class
    At the same time remove constant pressure and press after possession loss.
  • RadioShaq
    20974 posts Moderator
    Might as well just remove defenders.
  • dinbaba
    1281 posts Professional
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    Might as well just remove defenders.

    Just remove everything, then there is nothing to complain about
  • Mdm
    5120 posts Big Money Move
    dinbaba wrote: »
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    Might as well just remove defenders.

    Just remove everything, then there is nothing to complain about

    People will Still find something 🙄
  • Chavez76
    9875 posts League Winner
    Mdm wrote: »
    dinbaba wrote: »
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    Might as well just remove defenders.

    Just remove everything, then there is nothing to complain about

    People will Still find something 🙄

    remove pink colored lines!

    (and indeed, people will find something to complain)
  • Mdm
    5120 posts Big Money Move
    Chavez76 wrote: »
    Mdm wrote: »
    dinbaba wrote: »
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    Might as well just remove defenders.

    Just remove everything, then there is nothing to complain about

    People will Still find something 🙄

    remove pink colored lines!

    (and indeed, people will find something to complain)

    And green

    And the stupid nick names etc
  • Rsscllghn
    457 posts An Exciting Prospect
    I would love to see custom tactics and instructions scrapped. Game was way better when you had just the five basic settings. Maybe a different mode where custom tactics are removed?
  • Kingofpro66
    327 posts Sunday League Hero
    vesprino wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    And how do you know they play drop back and it's not just the pressure that keeps them from going forward?

    because barely any of them press you after the first pass, it's then back to control the mids as defenders scurry the box hoping they autoblock or autotackle whatever you do, you can often get one on them by playing faster then them but that doesn't make it any less of a problem. it is a tactic that closes the skillgap and helps people who are bad at defending.

    Look it at This way, If they where so bad at the game you would not come here to complain about Someone using drop back. So much complaining in This forum. If EA listen to everyones complaints it would not been a game to play. Its always Someone complaining because they lost a game?!!!
  • Cheetah Thumbs
    5182 posts Big Money Move
    Just start with the ball in the net and your favorite celebration. have that for 12 mins.
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