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  • High420
    2020 posts Fans' Favourite
    Since1875 wrote: »
    Genuinely considering, just quitting the game for this year. For the last 3 days, all played is 442 1 depth drop back, every on stay back/come back apart from the 2 strikers, who no matter how you mark them will ALWAYS get on the end of the hail mary through balls.

    It's mind numbingly boring to play. It doesn't matter how creative your runs are, or how we'll you keep the ball. Their AI just sit their 2 yards from the goal not moving

    Yeah it’s very depressing.

    First few weeks of this game was brilliant.

    It’s just back to the usual dropback counter attack rubbish now.

    What's getting on my nerves at the moment is that nobody is controlling their players when defending lol.

    Everyone is just spamming pressure and leaving their St selected on 1/2way for the counter.

    "Well just play around their ai controlled player", you might intelligently suggest.

    Well that's also impossible to do due to lag and so their ai Kimpembe will just barge through your players whilst you try and build up play and then R1 triangle a through ball to their St whilst you fight with player switching to step up or intercept.
  • Wrighty1993
    262 posts Sunday League Hero
    Since1875 wrote: »
    Genuinely considering, just quitting the game for this year. For the last 3 days, all played is 442 1 depth drop back, every on stay back/come back apart from the 2 strikers, who no matter how you mark them will ALWAYS get on the end of the hail mary through balls.

    It's mind numbingly boring to play. It doesn't matter how creative your runs are, or how we'll you keep the ball. Their AI just sit their 2 yards from the goal not moving

    Yeah it’s very depressing.

    First few weeks of this game was brilliant.

    It’s just back to the usual dropback counter attack rubbish now.

    I loved the first few weeks...seeing different teams. Different tactics. Best few weeks of fifa In the last few years.

    I had one game over lunch. I won 1-0 with 1 shot and 89% possession. He only controlled benzema for the entire 90 minute's and he had 16 passes. 0 shots. I spent the entire time passing between my cm's. For anyone wondering about Uribe...think back to the League SBC Battatglia/Acuna from 19/20
  • Since1875
    1405 posts Professional
    Since1875 wrote: »
    Genuinely considering, just quitting the game for this year. For the last 3 days, all played is 442 1 depth drop back, every on stay back/come back apart from the 2 strikers, who no matter how you mark them will ALWAYS get on the end of the hail mary through balls.

    It's mind numbingly boring to play. It doesn't matter how creative your runs are, or how we'll you keep the ball. Their AI just sit their 2 yards from the goal not moving

    Yeah it’s very depressing.

    First few weeks of this game was brilliant.

    It’s just back to the usual dropback counter attack rubbish now.

    I loved the first few weeks...seeing different teams. Different tactics. Best few weeks of fifa In the last few years.

    I had one game over lunch. I won 1-0 with 1 shot and 89% possession. He only controlled benzema for the entire 90 minute's and he had 16 passes. 0 shots. I spent the entire time passing between my cm's. For anyone wondering about Uribe...think back to the League SBC Battatglia/Acuna from 19/20

    It’s horrific isn’t it.

    I quit out a game yesterday in the 55th minute.

    It was 0-0 and I had around 80% possession with about 3 shots.

    He had 0 shots and wasn’t interested in trying to take the ball from me.

    Life’s too short for that nonsense.
  • Since1875
    1405 posts Professional
    High420 wrote: »
    Since1875 wrote: »
    Genuinely considering, just quitting the game for this year. For the last 3 days, all played is 442 1 depth drop back, every on stay back/come back apart from the 2 strikers, who no matter how you mark them will ALWAYS get on the end of the hail mary through balls.

    It's mind numbingly boring to play. It doesn't matter how creative your runs are, or how we'll you keep the ball. Their AI just sit their 2 yards from the goal not moving

    Yeah it’s very depressing.

    First few weeks of this game was brilliant.

    It’s just back to the usual dropback counter attack rubbish now.

    What's getting on my nerves at the moment is that nobody is controlling their players when defending lol.

    Everyone is just spamming pressure and leaving their St selected on 1/2way for the counter.

    "Well just play around their ai controlled player", you might intelligently suggest.

    Well that's also impossible to do due to lag and so their ai Kimpembe will just barge through your players whilst you try and build up play and then R1 triangle a through ball to their St whilst you fight with player switching to step up or intercept.

    Feel you mate.

    I’m in the exact same situation.

    I’ve hardly played at all in the last week.
  • Wrighty1993
    262 posts Sunday League Hero
    @Since1875 @High420 what I find the worst is that they suck me into it. They don't press, so I keep the ball, I inevitable switch off because my brains dying on the inside OR the Fifa gods decide that we won't pass to the player you're obviously attempting to pass to. And suddenly its 1-1 and the Constant pressure makes everyone a brilliant defender instead of making the over ambitious which is what it should do.

    Telling Dembele/ASM/Ben Yesser to constantly press doesn't suddenly make them brilliant defensively, their stats should make them reckless and easy to bypass instead of turning them all into prime moments vieira
  • High420
    2020 posts Fans' Favourite
    Yea I can't understand why they don't adjust it so that 'pressing forward' is an equally rare trait as 'finesse shot etc'.

    There are forwards good at it irl like Liverpool's front three for example- it should just be an OP trait on a select few players.
  • Wrighty1993
    262 posts Sunday League Hero
    One thing I have considered is moving back onto the 4231(2) to recreate the world's greatest team (Bayern).

    Have both full backs bombing forward, with the LM/RM on cut inside. So in theory it should create a kind of 2431. Hopefully allowing a bit of more a structured overlaod similar to the 3421
  • Wrighty1993
    262 posts Sunday League Hero
    High420 wrote: »
    Yea I can't understand why they don't adjust it so that 'pressing forward' is an equally rare trait as 'finesse shot etc'.

    There are forwards good at it irl like Liverpool's front three for example- it should just be an OP trait on a select few players.

    Exactly, dembele with his 38 interceptions and 42 awareness, no matter how much you tell him to press, should be the proverbial headless chicken
  • Hi Chaps. Long time reader of the thread. Been using the 3421 and 433(5) for a long time and they are great. Last few days in the 3421 my LM has been charging across the pitch when defending. Any idea why? I'm using the OPs tactics on the front page.
  • Since1875
    1405 posts Professional
    One thing I have considered is moving back onto the 4231(2) to recreate the world's greatest team (Bayern).

    Have both full backs bombing forward, with the LM/RM on cut inside. So in theory it should create a kind of 2431. Hopefully allowing a bit of more a structured overlaod similar to the 3421

    Sounds nice that mate.

    Let me know your tactics etc if you go back to it.

    I’ll give it a spin.
  • Since1875
    1405 posts Professional
    Hi Chaps. Long time reader of the thread. Been using the 3421 and 433(5) for a long time and they are great. Last few days in the 3421 my LM has been charging across the pitch when defending. Any idea why? I'm using the OPs tactics on the front page.

    I feel this year there’s something not right with all the back 3 formations.

    Last 2 FIFA’s I used 3412 and 3421 a lot but this year they feel off.

    I’m finding it easier to defend with just my 2 CB’s than with the 3.
  • freddfranca
    3231 posts National Call-Up
    One thing I have considered is moving back onto the 4231(2) to recreate the world's greatest team (Bayern).

    Have both full backs bombing forward, with the LM/RM on cut inside. So in theory it should create a kind of 2431. Hopefully allowing a bit of more a structured overlaod similar to the 3421

    In FIFA 20 I used a tactic that plays like Bayern and was fun
  • Amdp9
    6857 posts Big Money Move
    Going to buy a player tonight , who's the biggest game changer for a mil guys ?

    @Delboy13710 Base Icon Eto he is immerse
  • ICUP
    7723 posts League Winner
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    One thing I have considered is moving back onto the 4231(2) to recreate the world's greatest team (Bayern).

    Have both full backs bombing forward, with the LM/RM on cut inside. So in theory it should create a kind of 2431. Hopefully allowing a bit of more a structured overlaod similar to the 3421

    This works btw, was using an all Arsenal squad in elite with Full backs bombing forward but it was the 4-2-3-1 with the 3 CAMS
  • Since1875 wrote: »
    Hi Chaps. Long time reader of the thread. Been using the 3421 and 433(5) for a long time and they are great. Last few days in the 3421 my LM has been charging across the pitch when defending. Any idea why? I'm using the OPs tactics on the front page.

    I feel this year there’s something not right with all the back 3 formations.

    Last 2 FIFA’s I used 3412 and 3421 a lot but this year they feel off.

    I’m finding it easier to defend with just my 2 CB’s than with the 3.

    Yeah I agree, guessing there's nothing I can do haha. Will just have to put up with it. It's a shame because the 3421 is so much fun in attack!
  • freddfranca
    3231 posts National Call-Up
    I need a good and cheap League 1 or Bundesliga striker to pair with Van Basten. Anyone used IF David?
  • ICUP
    7723 posts League Winner
    I need a good and cheap League 1 or Bundesliga striker to pair with Van Basten. Anyone used IF David?

    181 games, 171 goals and 135 assists.

    Such a great card
  • nicklasolling
    823 posts Professional
    ICUP wrote: »
    I need a good and cheap League 1 or Bundesliga striker to pair with Van Basten. Anyone used IF David?

    181 games, 171 goals and 135 assists.

    Such a great card

    Very likely to get a SIF tomorrow as well!
  • High420
    2020 posts Fans' Favourite
    Yea IF David is ridiculously good.

    Matches Mid Del Piero for output- all he's missing is finesse shot trait if you spam that (I don't really), but he's basically a slightly stronger,faster Wissem Ben Yeder.

  • freddfranca
    3231 posts National Call-Up
    ICUP wrote: »
    I need a good and cheap League 1 or Bundesliga striker to pair with Van Basten. Anyone used IF David?

    181 games, 171 goals and 135 assists.

    Such a great card

    Very likely to get a SIF tomorrow as well!

    The price of the IF will raise or drop? The market is crazy this year
  • High420
    2020 posts Fans' Favourite
    ICUP wrote: »
    I need a good and cheap League 1 or Bundesliga striker to pair with Van Basten. Anyone used IF David?

    181 games, 171 goals and 135 assists.

    Such a great card

    Very likely to get a SIF tomorrow as well!

    The price of the IF will raise or drop? The market is crazy this year

    It's 15k mate, at worst you'll lose 3k😂😂😂
  • Wrighty1993
    262 posts Sunday League Hero
    Just played one guy, playing a 442....he's CM pairing. Robbie Keane and Bernardo Silva. That should fundamentally not work, yet Robbie Keane is apparently the most accomplished defensive centre mid in premier league history. Absolutely blows my mind, how people can be rewarded for playing like that
  • Since1875
    1405 posts Professional
    Just had a couple of quick rage quits using a 4141.

    I used that quite a bit in Fifa 21.

    It plays like how I feel a 433 should play.

    Really enjoying it with the ST on false 9.
  • Since1875
    1405 posts Professional
    Just played one guy, playing a 442....he's CM pairing. Robbie Keane and Bernardo Silva. That should fundamentally not work, yet Robbie Keane is apparently the most accomplished defensive centre mid in premier league history. Absolutely blows my mind, how people can be rewarded for playing like that

    Utter shambles mate.
  • Wrighty1993
    262 posts Sunday League Hero
    Since1875 wrote: »
    Just had a couple of quick rage quits using a 4141.

    I used that quite a bit in Fifa 21.

    It plays like how I feel a 433 should play.

    Really enjoying it with the ST on false 9.

    Recreating the spaletti roma years. Totti dropping as the false 9
  • Leoni
    246 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    There's no other game where the game encourages a certain playstyle and punishes another one so badly as this game. I don't know what the developers where thinking. You pass 100 times to create a creative opening and even when you achieve a high quality chance in the box

    A. A miraculous AI block occurs

    B. The keeper saves a shot which you took with the exact same technique in other matches and it was a goal.

    I haven't seen any fifa with so much inconsistency like I don't even know which shot is going in and which isn't no matter who shoots from which distance.

    The passing is another epic failure. I don't even notice a big difference between Xavi's passing and Kante's passing. I see Xavi and Messi misplacing so many normal x passes so I'm getting forced to play stupid driven passes.

    If I stop getting the slightest enjoyement out of this game I'll quit early just like last year. I regret buying a ps5 for this disgusting game.
  • Since1875
    1405 posts Professional
    Since1875 wrote: »
    Just had a couple of quick rage quits using a 4141.

    I used that quite a bit in Fifa 21.

    It plays like how I feel a 433 should play.

    Really enjoying it with the ST on false 9.

    Recreating the spaletti roma years. Totti dropping as the false 9

    ✊🏼
  • This is the first week i failed to qualify for wl but considering I couldn't be arsed to play all 20 games last week I don't think it matters, what a boredom trying to play constructive passing and play in this game when you're going against a wall of ai defending since most people don't even bother trying to control their defense
  • freddfranca
    3231 posts National Call-Up
    Since1875 wrote: »
    Just had a couple of quick rage quits using a 4141.

    I used that quite a bit in Fifa 21.

    It plays like how I feel a 433 should play.

    Really enjoying it with the ST on false 9.

    Recreating the spaletti roma years. Totti dropping as the false 9

    Speaking of this, when are we getting Totti as an Icon?
  • freddfranca
    3231 posts National Call-Up
    Just played one guy, playing a 442....he's CM pairing. Robbie Keane and Bernardo Silva. That should fundamentally not work, yet Robbie Keane is apparently the most accomplished defensive centre mid in premier league history. Absolutely blows my mind, how people can be rewarded for playing like that

    One of these days I played against a guy with Messi as CM (!!!) staying back, and the front three was Rashford, Werner and Dembele 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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