So defensive

SStubbs88
702 posts Semi-Pro
Just played 5 games on rivals and in 4 of them when I had a goal kick their defenders were at the edge of their own box. Is this what this game is now? Defend with nine players then boot it up to fast strikers? Wasn't that what a previous fifa became? 20 maybe?

Then you play a squad battles game and they have all 11 at the edge of their box at all times.

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  • Wonderkiid
    4869 posts National Call-Up
    Thats when you get when YouTubers tell all the kids to pull everyone back because the AI is hard to get through once all at the back
  • Halfhand2
    658 posts An Exciting Prospect
    5 bk is all the rage in the top ranks , every over game.
  • Safckje
    1637 posts Play-Off Hero
    I don’t even know what causes your defenders to stand near the box on goal kicks.

    I play 70 depth and sometimes there’ll be someone short and the next time all are by the halfway line, it’s cost me sometimes when I take a short one and nobody is there.
  • dinbaba
    1283 posts Professional
    Safckje wrote: »
    I don’t even know what causes your defenders to stand near the box on goal kicks.

    I play 70 depth and sometimes there’ll be someone short and the next time all are by the halfway line, it’s cost me sometimes when I take a short one and nobody is there.

    Just press L1 and they will go into the box.
  • player
    1550 posts Play-Off Hero
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?
  • Wonderkiid
    4869 posts National Call-Up
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players
  • SeñorCatflap
    2128 posts Fans' Favourite
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.
  • Wonderkiid
    4869 posts National Call-Up
    edited March 10
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.

    If attack was so strong then every game would finish 9-9, which isnt the case. Its not easy enough to break down the defence AI which is why everyone pulls everyone back and spam through balls.
  • john_d_efc
    5517 posts Big Money Move
    You do realise that if someone has 'Possession' as their build up thats what moves your defenders like that for goal kicks? It doesn't indicate someone dropping back
  • Diggy
    16442 posts World Class
    john_d_efc wrote: »
    You do realise that if someone has 'Possession' as their build up thats what moves your defenders like that for goal kicks? It doesn't indicate someone dropping back

    This
  • GitGood
    1404 posts Professional
    edited March 10
    john_d_efc wrote: »
    You do realise that if someone has 'Possession' as their build up thats what moves your defenders like that for goal kicks? It doesn't indicate someone dropping back

    I don’t think that’s the case because I play balance but my two defenders drop deep and sometimes left back would play everyone on site..There are cases when you call defenders back on goal kicks but the keeper still wave them forward when you’re trying to play from the back..I think is just a bad coding and ai is either too smart or too dumb every other game.
  • SeñorCatflap
    2128 posts Fans' Favourite
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.

    If attack was so strong then every game would finish 9-9, which isnt the case. Its not easy enough to break down the defence AI which is why everyone pulls everyone back and spam through balls.

    I average about 3-4 goals a game in champs. Scoring goals is easy on this game.
  • Wonderkiid
    4869 posts National Call-Up
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.

    If attack was so strong then every game would finish 9-9, which isnt the case. Its not easy enough to break down the defence AI which is why everyone pulls everyone back and spam through balls.

    I average about 3-4 goals a game in champs. Scoring goals is easy on this game.

    Looking at my experience, I dont concede any goals in 90% of my games in champs. Shows you how hard it is to break down a defence and it shouldnt be like that.

    Even little Timmy in division X can defend well if he pulls everyone back and doesn't touch the defenders much at all

  • bigpokey24
    6175 posts Big Money Move
    This FIFA , scoring is just too easy , goalies are bad and the defenders will run backwards in a curvy way
  • SeñorCatflap
    2128 posts Fans' Favourite
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.

    If attack was so strong then every game would finish 9-9, which isnt the case. Its not easy enough to break down the defence AI which is why everyone pulls everyone back and spam through balls.

    I average about 3-4 goals a game in champs. Scoring goals is easy on this game.

    Looking at my experience, I dont concede any goals in 90% of my games in champs. Shows you how hard it is to break down a defence and it shouldnt be like that.

    Even little Timmy in division X can defend well if he pulls everyone back and doesn't touch the defenders much at all

    It's not hard to score goals in this game at all.
  • FarPostGhost
    1918 posts Play-Off Hero
    john_d_efc wrote: »
    You do realise that if someone has 'Possession' as their build up thats what moves your defenders like that for goal kicks? It doesn't indicate someone dropping back

    I think he’s saying it was his goal kick and the opponent’s defenders were on the edge of their box.

    Could be wrong though.
  • Wonderkiid
    4869 posts National Call-Up
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.

    If attack was so strong then every game would finish 9-9, which isnt the case. Its not easy enough to break down the defence AI which is why everyone pulls everyone back and spam through balls.

    I average about 3-4 goals a game in champs. Scoring goals is easy on this game.

    Looking at my experience, I dont concede any goals in 90% of my games in champs. Shows you how hard it is to break down a defence and it shouldnt be like that.

    Even little Timmy in division X can defend well if he pulls everyone back and doesn't touch the defenders much at all

    It's not hard to score goals in this game at all.

    Yeah, I am afraid it is buddy. The higher up you go the harder it gets.
  • SeñorCatflap
    2128 posts Fans' Favourite
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.

    If attack was so strong then every game would finish 9-9, which isnt the case. Its not easy enough to break down the defence AI which is why everyone pulls everyone back and spam through balls.

    I average about 3-4 goals a game in champs. Scoring goals is easy on this game.

    Looking at my experience, I dont concede any goals in 90% of my games in champs. Shows you how hard it is to break down a defence and it shouldnt be like that.

    Even little Timmy in division X can defend well if he pulls everyone back and doesn't touch the defenders much at all

    It's not hard to score goals in this game at all.

    Yeah, I am afraid it is buddy. The higher up you go the harder it gets.

    Not at all "buddy" I've played higher up and it's still not a big issue scoring goals. I've played over 1300 games and not once have I ever thought "it sure is hard to score on this game"
  • Wonderkiid
    4869 posts National Call-Up
    edited March 10
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.

    If attack was so strong then every game would finish 9-9, which isnt the case. Its not easy enough to break down the defence AI which is why everyone pulls everyone back and spam through balls.

    I average about 3-4 goals a game in champs. Scoring goals is easy on this game.

    Looking at my experience, I dont concede any goals in 90% of my games in champs. Shows you how hard it is to break down a defence and it shouldnt be like that.

    Even little Timmy in division X can defend well if he pulls everyone back and doesn't touch the defenders much at all

    It's not hard to score goals in this game at all.

    Yeah, I am afraid it is buddy. The higher up you go the harder it gets.

    Not at all "buddy" I've played higher up and it's still not a big issue scoring goals. I've played over 1300 games and not once have I ever thought "it sure is hard to score on this game"

    Well, you only average 3 goals per game and I average far less then a goal a game against. You do the math. If attacking was as easy as you make it sound then I should concede many per game aswell.

    The defensive AI is way too strong and is only in place to help the lower ranked players out. Which in return means that most divisions consist of the same kind of players with little difference in between as everyone struggles to score. Except you ofcours.
  • SeñorCatflap
    2128 posts Fans' Favourite
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.

    If attack was so strong then every game would finish 9-9, which isnt the case. Its not easy enough to break down the defence AI which is why everyone pulls everyone back and spam through balls.

    I average about 3-4 goals a game in champs. Scoring goals is easy on this game.

    Looking at my experience, I dont concede any goals in 90% of my games in champs. Shows you how hard it is to break down a defence and it shouldnt be like that.

    Even little Timmy in division X can defend well if he pulls everyone back and doesn't touch the defenders much at all

    It's not hard to score goals in this game at all.

    Yeah, I am afraid it is buddy. The higher up you go the harder it gets.

    Not at all "buddy" I've played higher up and it's still not a big issue scoring goals. I've played over 1300 games and not once have I ever thought "it sure is hard to score on this game"

    Well, you only average 3 goals per game and I average far less then a goal a game against. You do the math. If attacking was as easy as you make it sound then I should concede many per game aswell.

    The defensive AI is way too strong and is only in place to help the lower ranked players out. Which in return means that most divisions consist of the same kind of players with little difference in between as everyone struggles to score. Except you ofcours.

    I haven't touched rivals this season as I'm trying to squeeze a few more months out of the game so it's just WL and first owner fiesta for me until I get bored and quit til September. Used to have the odd stalemate in rivals which is the main competitive mode so close games are to be expected there.
  • Wonderkiid
    4869 posts National Call-Up
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    player wrote: »
    The other day I read here on the forum,the attack is too op and the defense can't cope with that.
    Today o read the opposite
    So what's it is?

    Defence is way too strong. Whoever says attacking is OP is just playing against ❤️❤️❤️❤️ players

    If defence was way too strong most games would be 1-0 or 0-0 which isn't the case. Its real easy to score in this game.

    If attack was so strong then every game would finish 9-9, which isnt the case. Its not easy enough to break down the defence AI which is why everyone pulls everyone back and spam through balls.

    I average about 3-4 goals a game in champs. Scoring goals is easy on this game.

    Looking at my experience, I dont concede any goals in 90% of my games in champs. Shows you how hard it is to break down a defence and it shouldnt be like that.

    Even little Timmy in division X can defend well if he pulls everyone back and doesn't touch the defenders much at all

    It's not hard to score goals in this game at all.

    Yeah, I am afraid it is buddy. The higher up you go the harder it gets.

    Not at all "buddy" I've played higher up and it's still not a big issue scoring goals. I've played over 1300 games and not once have I ever thought "it sure is hard to score on this game"

    Well, you only average 3 goals per game and I average far less then a goal a game against. You do the math. If attacking was as easy as you make it sound then I should concede many per game aswell.

    The defensive AI is way too strong and is only in place to help the lower ranked players out. Which in return means that most divisions consist of the same kind of players with little difference in between as everyone struggles to score. Except you ofcours.

    I haven't touched rivals this season as I'm trying to squeeze a few more months out of the game so it's just WL and first owner fiesta for me until I get bored and quit til September. Used to have the odd stalemate in rivals which is the main competitive mode so close games are to be expected there.

    With all respect,

    Rivals = hard & competitive
    WL = casual & easy (relative to Rivals)

    So it makes sense for you to claim that scoring is easy if you dont play anyone around or above your level. If I play against weaker players all the time then I will find it easy to score aswell.
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