We need to talk.... (Squad battles)

P1tch_1nvaderz88
18109 posts World Class
edited January 24
OK, now while I'm aware it's not everyone's cup of tea...

However I need to call out my findings on the level of BS in this mode.
I'm grinding games for the milestones. Have been for a few days now (I mainly wanna listen to podcasts while I do it, so no judgement please)

Things I've noticed in this mode that EA need to get a grip and actually rectify

- Not every tackle you make has to result in going out of play EA, nor does it need to land straight back to the AI

- injuries, I get at least 1 a game due to the AI just bulldozing my players with no freekick given

- why when I'm trying to steal the ball of the AI. Does my player have to literally walk full circle round the AI controlled player without making a challenge

- why does my preset formation get mucked up when changing IG? I have to pause to manually place players where they should be.

- what on earth have you done to corners!? Just over 3 bars still looks like 1 bar of power now, it's ridiculous, your barely beating the first man now when swinging it in. (yes I'm not a rat, and take it short every damn time)

- why are the AI amazing at shielding the ball. Yet my players just look like a bunch of wimps?

- power shots also seem nerfed in this mode, you can even be well clear of the last man before assuming its safe to try one, only for the defender to miraculously catch up and tackle you.

- why when tackling a player, does my player then somehow constantly fall over the player he's tackled? And subsequently lose the ball straight away

These are just some of the dumbest things I've noticed the past few nights, what gives EA? It's bad enough having to put up with the level of BS you allow in online, to have to put up with this garbage in offline mode ffs.

If you ever want to see everything that's wrong about the code of this game, Squad battles offers insight into pretty much most of it, if not all of it..

Rant over.

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Comments

  • cooz41289
    498 posts An Exciting Prospect
    It's way too painful stopped playing them 2 ago.. Only played them for swaps. The problem is that the only way they can make the game difficulty harder is to add all the BS in like bounce backs etc. and not a focus on the AI actually playing better.
    Don't waste your time.
  • jus062
    74 posts Park Captain
    edited January 24
    They are the pits but I do play them mainly to complete objectives, rather than doing them in rivals.

    The ones that really irritate me are the amazing blocking slides opp AI players do to intercept whereas the ball seems to go completely through my AI controlled players, or they stand there looking at it just roll past. The stark contrast between the way AI players behave is staggering.

    Other one is playing bronze teams on legendary, low to zero chem who always manage to get at least one goal. And you can feel it coming...
    Post edited by jus062 on
  • al_pacino
    615 posts An Exciting Prospect
    I play a bit of squad battles to get a regular set of reasonable rewards, the packs have been quite good to me but have definitely lessened in quality over the lifetime of this game.

    Anyway on to BS. I agree with the OP on almost everything but my new one involves that objective to Score with a Japanese player while conceding no more than one goal. Playing on world class the AI would play like absolute demons until they scored two then drop a few levels so you could win easily, this happened more than a few times. Luckily it only needed 3 wins and the I knew I'd get it done.
  • Giallorossi
    579 posts An Exciting Prospect
    al_pacino wrote: »
    I play a bit of squad battles to get a regular set of reasonable rewards, the packs have been quite good to me but have definitely lessened in quality over the lifetime of this game.

    Anyway on to BS. I agree with the OP on almost everything but my new one involves that objective to Score with a Japanese player while conceding no more than one goal. Playing on world class the AI would play like absolute demons until they scored two then drop a few levels so you could win easily, this happened more than a few times. Luckily it only needed 3 wins and the I knew I'd get it done.

    Why not play it on semi pro or pro just the 3 matches ?
  • al_pacino
    615 posts An Exciting Prospect
    al_pacino wrote: »
    I play a bit of squad battles to get a regular set of reasonable rewards, the packs have been quite good to me but have definitely lessened in quality over the lifetime of this game.

    Anyway on to BS. I agree with the OP on almost everything but my new one involves that objective to Score with a Japanese player while conceding no more than one goal. Playing on world class the AI would play like absolute demons until they scored two then drop a few levels so you could win easily, this happened more than a few times. Luckily it only needed 3 wins and the I knew I'd get it done.

    Why not play it on semi pro or pro just the 3 matches ?

    I knew I'd get it done before I finished scoring goals in 15 games with a French player so it wasn't a mega issue, just really noticeable when the level dropped.
  • DutchDelight
    1811 posts Play-Off Hero
    It is a mode from hell created by Beelzebub.
  • ForestGrump70
    1266 posts Professional
    It's a horrendous game mode which I only play for objectives where it'll be too hard to complete in rivals.

    When I do have to play it, I start the game and let it play until half time on semi pro whilst I do something else.
    Start 2nd half, complete required objectives scoring 5/6 goals then do something else until FT.

    Rinse and repeat.
  • ForestGrump70
    1266 posts Professional
    Why anyone would play this on world class or higher is beyond me.
  • Peanutbutter83
    185 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    The levels of BS involved in squad battles on difficulties above pro add just staggering. It should be illegal. For the measly rewards the mode just isn’t worth the hassle. Playing on pro is too easy yet the step up to World class, unless it’s low rate/low Chem teams is huge. The game will use any cheap tactic necessary to get what it wants. I’ve sat there in absolute shock and awe at how some of the game mechanics have stiffed me over in the past. Should be illegal
  • dengah109
    1948 posts Play-Off Hero
    I decided to play 3 chilled games last night just to complete the Gundogan objective and do the quick ones for the TOYT 2022 objective. I played a crappy all silver team with around 6 chem in one game and it was weird. I put it on pro in the end so it would be easy. however I was only 3 up early in the 2nd half and the AI was playing at a higher level than one might expect. They suddenly starting pinging the ball around really quickly, got a pen, few moments later got a wonder goal from a cross and the striker scoring a flying volley (the AI barely ever crosses in my experience!!) and I was like ❤️❤️❤️❤️ what on earth is happening!?! I composed myself and ended up winning 5-2 but it was just weird.
  • Speckletits
    201 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    I play squad battles more than online, as am ❤️❤️❤️❤️ at online, but 100% agree, its fcked. Annoys me how poor a standard it is.. could add to your list. But pointless.. nothing will change. Horrible game mode, never used to be for me..
  • R1ckyDaMan19
    1682 posts Play-Off Hero
    edited January 24
    It's not that bad, once you learn the ai patterns they become extremely easy to predict.

    I preffered it when they had the mini leagues for offline players with a pack or 2 at the end, fully repeatable.
  • He4rt
    532 posts An Exciting Prospect
    The issue I have with playing SB on world class or above is that you have to play very differently to how you play against real opponents and as a result it creates very bad habits in my gameplay. I find that if I grind SB for a large period of time it effects my form in Rivals dramatically.
  • FlyingOkapis
    2262 posts Fans' Favourite
    I used to play Squad Battles regularly and have done on every FIFA but have now given up on it.

    Squad Battles is the real eye opener on EA's ability to develop a football game, this is the mode that proves that EA cannot make a balanced AI/game of football.

    Instead of searching and finding the sweet spot of a football game, EA went the easy route and chose not to make defending AI smarter or attacking AI flowing and cohesive they decided that cheating and stat boosting was the best option...

    Silvers and bronzes who can rocket a shot from any angle, 30 pace defenders who can out sprint you, ❤️❤️❤️❤️ who can out muscle you, refs that turn a blind eye to fouls against you.. sh!!!!t when they fancy it they pretty much ignore your controller input as well to defeat you.

    Squad Battles is a joke of a mode, the gameplay is a joke but represents exactly what EA are.
  • Hann4y
    1205 posts Professional
    It's just more scripted noncence from a company that say they don't manipulate or script anything.

    They think the user base are mugs.

    I only play SB if I have to, the fun has been stripped right out of this mode.
  • ICUP
    7723 posts League Winner
    https://i.gifer.com/6gkX.mp4
    I used to play Squad Battles regularly and have done on every FIFA but have now given up on it.

    Squad Battles is the real eye opener on EA's ability to develop a football game, this is the mode that proves that EA cannot make a balanced AI/game of football.

    Instead of searching and finding the sweet spot of a football game, EA went the easy route and chose not to make defending AI smarter or attacking AI flowing and cohesive they decided that cheating and stat boosting was the best option...

    Silvers and bronzes who can rocket a shot from any angle, 30 pace defenders who can out sprint you, ❤️❤️❤️❤️ who can out muscle you, refs that turn a blind eye to fouls against you.. sh!!!!t when they fancy it they pretty much ignore your controller input as well to defeat you.

    Squad Battles is a joke of a mode, the gameplay is a joke but represents exactly what EA are.

    Ultimate AI will have you spinning on ice, doing the splits like Di Maria to puyol or dropping you like Messi to to Boateng.

    Either way it's BS, salute to anyone who has the mental capacity to play the AI on Ultimate but it's just broken.

    Bronze players dribbling like Messi & I can't even get Messi to dribble like Messi
  • Peanutbutter83
    185 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    It’s disgustingly unfair. Surely there must be some form of fair play standards that games must meet, especially in games that players can use their own money on?
  • CLANDESTINO
    101 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    my only problem is the AI amazing dribbling when facing > 90 OVR teams in legendary mode.
    there is no way a human player can dribble like that or react to tackling that fast.

    I still beat the teams, but the AI is cheating because it is not reacting to what I do, it is reading my controller input , there should be a delay to mimic human players.

    the other "problem" is high OVR teams in legendary mode parking the bus most of the time.
  • CLANDESTINO
    101 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    I forgot, the extra extra time when the AI is behind the score.

    there is a saying in la liga: "hasta que marque el Real Madrid" (Until Real Madrid scores)
    that's what I say when the AI ties the match at +4, but the extra time was +1.
    it doesn't matter how much extra time there is the whistle will not blow until Real Madrid scores or the AI scores.
  • jus062
    74 posts Park Captain
    I still beat the teams, but the AI is cheating because it is not reacting to what I do, it is reading my controller input , there should be a delay to mimic human players.

    It's lazy coding of epic proportions. I do watch the odd replay and when you really slow it down it's clearly obvious that the AI defender is programmed to get the ball off you no matter what, It's actually comical some of the animations that occur.
  • Peanutbutter83
    185 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited January 25
    Just had a blast on SBs, even on Pro it’s getting difficult against the top tier teams. They are just hyper charged, you can’t tackle, their passing is robotic, every shot goes in, even when you want to foul it won’t register, they are instantly back in position after losing the ball, their goalkeepers save everything. I am certain the game AI plays in difficulty cycles during the match, at the start for 10/15 mins it’s pretty easy and you need to score at least one in that time. Then it will switch the BS on and all the above will occur for a few minutes, in which they will usually score. The second half largely resembles the first but worse if the opposition are behind then the BS levels are cranked up to ridiculous! Server traffic/connection issues also plays a huge part in your teams performances in SBs, reaction times, positioning and button response will be poor during busier periods, EA will tell you SBs are offline but we all know that’s complete rubbish. There is something fishy going on in this mode I am sure of it, probably something to do with nerfing stats when you face a strong team just so it enhances their ability. Total farce.
    Post edited by Peanutbutter83 on
  • PaulDr
    4487 posts National Call-Up
    Stupid game disconnected after I won another legendary game 7 nil. Squad update. ❤️❤️❤️❤️.
  • zago33
    819 posts Semi-Pro
    Would be nice to have the opportunity to end the SB game for example after leading by 3or4 goals
  • Peanutbutter83
    185 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited January 26
    CHEATING, FRAUDULENT, UNFAIR, JOKE OF A MODE!!! TOTAL FARCE!!! As you can probably tell I’ve just been totally stuffed over by Squad Battles yet a ❤️❤️❤️❤️ gain! 2-0 half time, 79% possession, second half, players can’t move, pass and are well out of position. Obviously lost 2-3……EA what is going on with this mode???
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