Can you imagine?!

Wonderkiid

I was feeling a little bit nostalgic so I watched an old Fifa video of mine I saved on youtube. This is from Fifa 13 and this squad is built during TOTS and was highly competitive. Now compare this to the squads we now have around TOTS. It kinda blew my mind how crazy high the power curve really is nowadays. I'd imagine we need 90's across the board around TOTS to make them somewhat relevant.

The good old days...

BringBackCrossing

Too many high rated cards

We shouldnt have some random 18 year old from spurs rated 96 and have better passing than xavi

But we will in a few months

Jdizzle

Not really, the power curve wasn't that different. The difference is that low rated cards were actually good but EA have tweaked it now so that they play bad. You could use welliton and nilmar and they would play like mbappe. David Luiz and felipe santana were as good as pim maldini.

Wonderkiid

Jdizzle wrote: »

Not really, the power curve wasn't that different. The difference is that low rated cards were actually good but EA have tweaked it now so that they play bad. You could use welliton and nilmar and they would play like mbappe. David Luiz and felipe santana were as good as pim maldini.

Yeah, you are right to be fair. I prefer it that way though, play with players you like rather then players you need to be competitive.

AzizaG

Dede and Kelvin

RadioShaq

There is way too much content now. Gameplay and no servers back then was much worse but lack of content and the market was much better.

Wonderkiid

RadioShaq wrote: »

There is way too much content now. Gameplay and no servers back then was much worse but lack of content and the market was much better.

I can imagine it would be fun to play one of these old games again to feel what the difference is in terms of gameplay. With these minor tweaks every year it feels like the difference isnt that big, but it probably is.

I'd wish they'd choose quality of quantity. But at the end of the day its a business they are trying to run and the 60/70 euro they get from selling copies simply isnt enough anymore. Packs sell and you sell packs by tempting people with new cards and players.

RadioShaq

Problem is people demand it now. Ea can’t even keep up with demand. They push it out so fast now they even make mistakes. The biggest threads on here are sbc and content threads. Even the youtubers are pushing for more like nep. Aa9 is probably one of the few who realizes it’s too much. Probably an old school dying breed way of looking at it.

Boysie91

Simple FUT with simple gameplay. To many actions using the same buttons over complicated fifa hence why it was more enjoyable back than.

Wonderkiid

RadioShaq wrote: »

Problem is people demand it now. Ea can’t even keep up with demand. They push it out so fast now they even make mistakes. The biggest threads on here are sbc and content threads. Even the youtubers are pushing for more like nep. Aa9 is probably one of the few who realizes it’s too much. Probably an old school dying breed way of looking at it.

If only people knew the beauty of the old Fifa's No content & sbc's might sound boring, but atleast TOTW was relevant. TOTY was amazing aswell as TOTS. Basically the first game changing cards. Throw the odd MOTM cards in there and you have a perfectly balanced game.

Nowadays 90% of the cards are deemed as fodder lol.

Shire_7

I miss early ultimate team with trade offers and no YouTubers influencing toxic behaviour.

There was next to no rage quits people actually played full matches for fun even if they were getting beat.

BCBeneli

The times when Abonghalor was a complete monster all year …. Man I feared that man lol

4kingpawn

You could argue that it was more unrealistic back than tbf. Enjoyed it but players like Agbonlahor and demba ba was better than your top players. I beat 90% of players with a silver Columbia team 😂

Wonderkiid

4kingpawn wrote: »

You could argue that it was more unrealistic back than tbf. Enjoyed it but players like Agbonlahor and demba ba was better than your top players. I beat 90% of players with a silver Columbia team 😂

What is realism though? Some of these players keep tripping over their feet in real life but in Fifa they are rated with God like stats. Everything and everyone was usable to a certain extent, definitely different nowadays

graff26lfc

Jdizzle wrote: »

Not really, the power curve wasn't that different. The difference is that low rated cards were actually good but EA have tweaked it now so that they play bad. You could use welliton and nilmar and they would play like mbappe. David Luiz and felipe santana were as good as pim maldini.

al owarin is as good as mbapppe on this and he was worse than welliton and nilmar

BigH82

RadioShaq wrote: »

Problem is people demand it now. Ea can’t even keep up with demand. They push it out so fast now they even make mistakes. The biggest threads on here are sbc and content threads. Even the youtubers are pushing for more like nep. Aa9 is probably one of the few who realizes it’s too much. Probably an old school dying breed way of looking at it.

Don't you think if the sbc's / objective cards equalled the quality of the high rated promo cards with follow on styled objectives would keep the players more relevant ?

Don't know about you but I've just about had my fill of 86 rated objectives

RadioShaq

You need some lower objectives for new players. As nice as it would be for everyone to have all the best cards in the game and they all be cheap people will quit as it ruins the mode. Now I like getting all the cards and playing but this is not the case for most. Look at last wc and the end of the year. Once everyone has the best cards they get bored and quit.

Overloading the market with all this content is what has devalued all the cards. What’s worse is ea has finally given in and just started throwing cards at us to try to keep us happy and it’s never enough.

d-Leon307-b

Sirigu if was a cheat

Leite better rm tho

Wonderkiid

RadioShaq wrote: »

You need some lower objectives for new players. As nice as it would be for everyone to have all the best cards in the game and they all be cheap people will quit as it ruins the mode. Now I like getting all the cards and playing but this is not the case for most. Look at last wc and the end of the year. Once everyone has the best cards they get bored and quit.

Overloading the market with all this content is what has devalued all the cards. What’s worse is ea has finally given in and just started throwing cards at us to try to keep us happy and it’s never enough.

Yeah, if they'd pace themselves more then we would be far better off. Yeah, people will complain about the lack of stacked promo's and content, but over time people will get used to it. Just like people got used to this.

I dont like what UT has turned into to be honest. Its one of the few things that really bother me. No player looks appealing because we get so many jacked up players. Most of which have stats similar to what TOTS used to be. I dont even know how they are going to make TOTS interesting tbh. We already have so many players close to that threshold leave alone in 4/5 months time.

I wish we could back to the early Fifa days. Wasnt just about META players and people played with a larger variety of players. Hell, I was playing with an 80 rated Coutinho...and I still remember that Coutinho as he was so good.

RadioShaq

Toty and tots will lose its luster or has already. Don’t get me wrong at the end of the year around tots it’s nice when you start getting a bunch of them but most won’t even make your main team anymore. Toty might as well just be another normal promo. After tots is all the summer promos that over shine it anyway.

pombo77

To bring things into today’s perspective, they “groomed us” meaning they learned the end user behavior and created content to keep us engaged and addicted. I took a 2 year break and when I came back this year, I have packed (in this order, in the first 2 months) tradeable Ronaldo, Mbappe and a few other high rated untradeable top players like Haaland and Messi. I have spent about 500 dollars so maybe they thought I would continue spending. (I stopped) They figure that this is the year that they have to make their money since who knows what will happen after they loose the FIFA license. It’s sickening how many promos they have now and how they ignore the quality of the game. The delays are still unbearable.

broxigaz

pombo77 wrote: »

To bring things into today’s perspective, they “groomed us” meaning they learned the end user behavior and created content to keep us engaged and addicted. I took a 2 year break and when I came back this year, I have packed (in this order, in the first 2 months) tradeable Ronaldo, Mbappe and a few other high rated untradeable top players like Haaland and Messi. I have spent about 500 dollars so maybe they thought I would continue spending. (I stopped) They figure that this is the year that they have to make their money since who knows what will happen after they loose the FIFA license. It’s sickening how many promos they have now and how they ignore the quality of the game. The delays are still unbearable.

Yeah your correct but you have to hand it to ea it's their game and if we don't play it their way they will ❤️❤️❤️❤️ us off, oh you want gg do you well here have it to its extreme, oh you like league sbc's let's tweak them to put you off still not enough ❤️❤️❤️❤️ it let's stop them, and the transfer market while they will never be able to stop you making coins they do everything in their power to make it as hard as possible.

Wonderkiid

pombo77 wrote: »

To bring things into today’s perspective, they “groomed us” meaning they learned the end user behavior and created content to keep us engaged and addicted. I took a 2 year break and when I came back this year, I have packed (in this order, in the first 2 months) tradeable Ronaldo, Mbappe and a few other high rated untradeable top players like Haaland and Messi. I have spent about 500 dollars so maybe they thought I would continue spending. (I stopped) They figure that this is the year that they have to make their money since who knows what will happen after they loose the FIFA license. It’s sickening how many promos they have now and how they ignore the quality of the game. The delays are still unbearable.

Yep. But that goes for pretty much gaming in general. I think most games have some sort of seasonal pass or rewards system in play. Even simple games you play on your phone have this.

Honestly, those promo players are great. Like, we used to get barely any special players other then TOTW and at a later date TOTY/TOTS. But that means that those players feel special. When you do a promo every once in a (good) while then it would feel very differently. Now they release a promo every week so no player feels special. The majority are turned into sbc fodder, totw is irrelevant, tots is irrelevant and TOTY is just another promo as those stats will be matched soon.

Thats why everyone complains about the content. There has never been more content then now which means that no player feels special. On the curve is behind the curve as next week we'll get even better players.

Maybe I am just getting old, but all of these changes are not made with the customer in mind. Only the business in mind which is a shame.