Fifa no longer for the casual gamer?

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BigH82
2391 posts Fans' Favourite
As the title

More than any other edition in the last few years, everything feels like a grind

Thoughts ?

Comments

  • Grind? I would say like a part-time job lol
    It's like okay, I must quality for Fut champs,I must get 8 wins for max reward in rivals, I must get some rank in squad battles (I usually get points by completing some objectives), I must play 20 games of fut champs, I must do token swaps lol
    It's crazy, imagine if we would also have daily and weekly knockout tournaments like back in the day (I actually would love it to be back)
    So yeah, it's a freaking grind, unless you have lots of money to spend, then just open pack and get crazy team
  • BigH82
    2391 posts Fans' Favourite
    Glad it's not just me
  • JakeH
    4517 posts National Call-Up
    edited November 2022
    Kind of have to pick and choose what you do. How people get it all done I don’t know.

    I wonder how many people use eBay to get things done?
  • RadioShaq
    21271 posts Moderator
    You have so much to do it’s never been more casual. Also the market is cheap so it’s easy to get into. When players went over 15 m that was when casuals got pushed out.
  • Rich
    1073 posts Professional
    Don't think it's ever been so casual almost anyone can afford Ronaldo and it's only November
  • BasketCase9483
    1302 posts Professional
    edited November 2022
    I think FIFA is pretty much the definition of a casual video game to be honest.

    Its not exactly Sifu, or Shin Megami Tensai V is it?
  • DaMMian
    2694 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited November 2022
    It is exactly as you say, my brother bought a new gen console with 2 games last week, one of them is FIFA. so he says to try his hand at the ultimate team, but after the first game he gave up on this mode.
    In the first game in this mode, he had a few silver and bronze players in the team and the opponent 3 icons, CR7, Mbappe, and some other top players. :/
  • Wonderkiid
    4839 posts National Call-Up
    edited November 2022
    Rich wrote: »
    Don't think it's ever been so casual almost anyone can afford Ronaldo and it's only November

    It depends what you consider casual.

    I'd say having CR7 doesn't define casual or not. I'd say casual gaming is barely putting effort into the game while still being able to play at a decent level. Which is simply impossible nowadays.

    If you build a team and leave it be for a month and when you return it will lost a significant amount of its value and you are way behind the curve. You have to play every week and keep trading to be able to keep up with the power curve.

    Which was different back in the day but more expensive players were harder to acquire. But this is not new. Pretty much ever since they started doing these promo's and WL the casual days were gone.
  • Ballerson
    1738 posts Play-Off Hero
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Rich wrote: »
    Don't think it's ever been so casual almost anyone can afford Ronaldo and it's only November

    It depends what you consider casual.

    I'd say having CR7 doesn't define casual or not. I'd say casual gaming is barely putting effort into the game while still being able to play at a decent level. Which is simply impossible nowadays.

    If you build a team and leave it be for a month and when you return it will lost a significant amount of its value and you are way behind the curve. You have to play every week and keep trading to be able to keep up with the power curve.

    Which was different back in the day but more expensive players were harder to acquire. But this is not new. Pretty much ever since they started doing these promo's and WL the casual days were gone.

    I’ll put this to the test this week as I haven’t been able to play for 3 weeks…but now I can afford Rudiger, lol.
  • Finetunedchaos
    1532 posts Play-Off Hero
    Rich wrote: »
    Don't think it's ever been so casual almost anyone can afford Ronaldo and it's only November

    This yeh. With all the content there's no need to do everything ingame. Everyone that played a bit games here and there have 3 heroes, 1 icon and top tier players in November..
  • BasketCase9483
    1302 posts Professional
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Rich wrote: »
    Don't think it's ever been so casual almost anyone can afford Ronaldo and it's only November

    It depends what you consider casual.

    I'd say having CR7 doesn't define casual or not. I'd say casual gaming is barely putting effort into the game while still being able to play at a decent level. Which is simply impossible nowadays.

    If you build a team and leave it be for a month and when you return it will lost a significant amount of its value and you are way behind the curve. You have to play every week and keep trading to be able to keep up with the power curve.

    Which was different back in the day but more expensive players were harder to acquire. But this is not new. Pretty much ever since they started doing these promo's and WL the casual days were gone.

    You can start a new account and have 160k within a few hours and buy Ronaldo.

    That is casual as hell.
  • I don't think it's that casual anymore tbh. Everything is so "try hard"... Like literally every mode. It's never been so far away from casual.

    Casuals will hate this game, it's vastly different from a day to day basis.
  • BigH82
    2391 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited November 2022
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    You have so much to do it’s never been more casual. Also the market is cheap so it’s easy to get into. When players went over 15 m that was when casuals got pushed out.

    We must be playing different game pal

    The sweat is dripping with this years edition
  • BigH82
    2391 posts Fans' Favourite
    I don't think it's that casual anymore tbh. Everything is so "try hard"... Like literally every mode. It's never been so far away from casual.

    Casuals will hate this game, it's vastly different from a day to day basis.

    This for me
  • Rich
    1073 posts Professional
    Is the argument FIFA or ultimate team because there's other game modes? I've got friends that play this casually on other modes, the clues in the name.
  • M@nt!c
    3376 posts National Call-Up
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    You have so much to do it’s never been more casual. Also the market is cheap so it’s easy to get into. When players went over 15 m that was when casuals got pushed out.

    Oh, those extenction times! Had to snipe all good cards 😬
  • BigH82
    2391 posts Fans' Favourite
    It's the overall

    I feel like most modes are sweaty when compared to 22 or 21

    Unpopular opinion, but I personally feel 19 was better than this 😬
  • Neal1982
    1351 posts Play-Off Hero
    There is so much you can do.. you just don't have to.
    I originally wanted to get 20 tokens to get the 3 x 84 x 20 packs, but just will not have the time.

    It is all Fear of missing out..
  • Andrew62097
    143 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    You have so much to do it’s never been more casual. Also the market is cheap so it’s easy to get into. When players went over 15 m that was when casuals got pushed out.
    BigH82 wrote: »
    As the title

    More than any other edition in the last few years, everything feels like a grind

    Thoughts ?
    The game is 70 % controlled by AI and out of your hands completely. Plus, you can’t even enjoy the game because lag/input delay so it makes hard to be playable for more then a few games at a time….EA has done the impossible, they made a game that is not casual or competitive, just some good ole 💩
  • False_Nine
    1433 posts Professional
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    You have so much to do it’s never been more casual. Also the market is cheap so it’s easy to get into. When players went over 15 m that was when casuals got pushed out.
    Y’know, I often times wonder if you’re playing the same game as the rest of us…

    To me “casual” is just that - someone who only plays now and then and doesn’t take the game too seriously. In the current FUT landscape, that’s no longer possible because you will get left behind.

    It used to be the case where if you picked up the game a month late, you still had a chance to catch up by playing SB and DR for a week, and doing the Advanced SBC’s. Now, with EA making coin rewards negligible, making most packs untradeable and lowering pack weights to oblivion, how exactly is someone supposed to afford these “cheap” meta players that get surpassed the second the next promo comes out?

    I mean, I play fairly religiously and still get nothing for my efforts. A “casual” will take one look at the super teams in D8 and D9 and decide it’s just not worth the effort.
  • RadioShaq
    21271 posts Moderator
    I don’t think you had a chance to catch up when players were going over the 15 m cap but if that was casual I prefer the affordable non casual market.
  • Dedekenbauer
    50 posts Park Captain
    It's not mandatory to play every match.

    Those who have plenty of time to play benefit from it, as it should be, after all it's a game.

    With all the rewards, I'm glad I don't have to touch my wallet. (especially if you measure profit per pack)

    If you build a competitive team for less than a 500k-1M, 95% of the time, you will not lose a game because of the players.
  • SuperJames9005
    3355 posts National Call-Up
    Objective Players/Cups: No

    Squad Battles: No

    Division Rivals: No, from this season. Not worth the time at all. I don't have as much time to compete for the best as last year (1% of Elite) so I would just stop altogether. DR is very unrewarding if you don't have the mentality to compete for the best.

    FUT Champs: Yes, every single week. I don't care about other people's opinion. This is still my favorite mode.

    Friendlies: Only for World Cup swaps to earn 20 for 84x20x3.

    Overall, the biggest change is that I have no motivation to play Obj/SB/DR this year. They seem so tedious and unrewarding. Some people need to understand while you don't play for rewards, other people also don't want to play for nothing which happens 9 out of 10 times from these terrible modes.
  • Hoopsterz
    3750 posts National Call-Up
    Can't say I've faced many super teams down in div 8/7 really.. Still mostly gold teams like mine.

    I think FOMO is what people think means casuals are left out.. But as a casual i don't really give AF about the new promo stuff and happily play a few games a week and still don't feel like im left behind..

    If you are up in the upper divisions its a bit different but i don't think many peoples definition of a casual will be up in div 2 etc.
  • He4rt
    532 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Yeah, as others as mentioned you have to pick and choose.

    I personally will not be competing in the WL any longer. Its frustratingly toxic on those games and the rewards really aren't worth the effort.

    Objectives, division rivals and Squad battles is where I will devote my time.
  • SuperJames9005
    3355 posts National Call-Up
    He4rt wrote: »
    Yeah, as others as mentioned you have to pick and choose.

    I personally will not be competing in the WL any longer. Its frustratingly toxic on those games and the rewards really aren't worth the effort.

    Objectives, division rivals and Squad battles is where I will devote my time.

    Funny that the only mode you didn't play is the mode I play only. :D
  • Wonderkiid
    4839 posts National Call-Up
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Rich wrote: »
    Don't think it's ever been so casual almost anyone can afford Ronaldo and it's only November

    It depends what you consider casual.

    I'd say having CR7 doesn't define casual or not. I'd say casual gaming is barely putting effort into the game while still being able to play at a decent level. Which is simply impossible nowadays.

    If you build a team and leave it be for a month and when you return it will lost a significant amount of its value and you are way behind the curve. You have to play every week and keep trading to be able to keep up with the power curve.

    Which was different back in the day but more expensive players were harder to acquire. But this is not new. Pretty much ever since they started doing these promo's and WL the casual days were gone.

    You can start a new account and have 160k within a few hours and buy Ronaldo.

    That is casual as hell.

    You'll have to put in many hours before you reach that. You'll have to advance in rivals which is hard for the casual player as they will struggle with a poor team and you'll have to play WL. I fail to see how this can be considered casual.

    Besides that, being casual means to me that you can pick up the game whenever, enjoy it and be relatively competitive. If you dont sell your players and dont play a few weeks then you'll fall behind the powercurve making it even harder to win games. Only way to keep up with that is playing enough rivals/wl or keep trading.

    Having a CR7 doesn't change anything other then that your CR7 was worth 500k 3 weeks ago and now barely 160k. Which kinda proves my point of having to stay in touch with this game
  • KiliaN64
    3308 posts National Call-Up
    Back in the day WL was 40 games every weekend with monthly rewards, so you basically had to play every week to get those.
    Nowadays we have 20 games where even 9 or 11 gets you decent rewards.

    Rivals used to be unlimited games and rank was based on how many points you got, so you had to play a ton of games if you want the best rewards.
    With this new format, you only need 8 wins over the course of a week and you’re not affected by how many games others play.

    You also don’t have to do every objective, most of them are pointless anyway, unless it’s for swaps.

    If you define a casual as someone who doesn’t get a lot of time to play, then this game is more casual friendly than ever.
  • Rich
    1073 posts Professional
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Wonderkiid wrote: »
    Rich wrote: »
    Don't think it's ever been so casual almost anyone can afford Ronaldo and it's only November

    It depends what you consider casual.

    I'd say having CR7 doesn't define casual or not. I'd say casual gaming is barely putting effort into the game while still being able to play at a decent level. Which is simply impossible nowadays.

    If you build a team and leave it be for a month and when you return it will lost a significant amount of its value and you are way behind the curve. You have to play every week and keep trading to be able to keep up with the power curve.

    Which was different back in the day but more expensive players were harder to acquire. But this is not new. Pretty much ever since they started doing these promo's and WL the casual days were gone.

    You can start a new account and have 160k within a few hours and buy Ronaldo.

    That is casual as hell.

    You'll have to put in many hours before you reach that. You'll have to advance in rivals which is hard for the casual player as they will struggle with a poor team and you'll have to play WL. I fail to see how this can be considered casual.

    Besides that, being casual means to me that you can pick up the game whenever, enjoy it and be relatively competitive. If you dont sell your players and dont play a few weeks then you'll fall behind the powercurve making it even harder to win games. Only way to keep up with that is playing enough rivals/wl or keep trading.

    Having a CR7 doesn't change anything other then that your CR7 was worth 500k 3 weeks ago and now barely 160k. Which kinda proves my point of having to stay in touch with this game

    Than surely the other modes on fifa are more suited to players that picks up the game whenever to enjoy it. I don't understand why everyone feels pressured to do everything it's never been cheaper or easier to get a decent team, take a few months off and you'd catch up in no time.
  • Smoggy78
    659 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Aye it can be played casually so can every grindy game so long as prepared to not have the very best items.

    I'd say because of divisions then FIFA is still casual friendly. Your ability and team will get you in a division you can compete in.

    It may not be elite ranks but you can still knock it on have a bit fun and then turn it off for a few days.
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