RF PREDICTION LEAGUE 2022-23

arsenalap

In respect for Ahmer.., predictions lock as the first match kicks off. After that point, all subsequent predictions (or posts with previously made predictions that are edited) will be disqualified.

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PREMIER LEAGUE (35 Points)

Winner: (5 points)
Champions League Qualification: (3 points each for three teams)
Europa League Qualification: (3 points each for two teams)
Europa Conference Qualification: (3 points for one team: the one who finishes 7th)
Relegated: (3 points each for three teams)
First Manager To Leave Their Job: (3 points)

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: (5 points)
FA Cup: (5 points)

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS (24 Points)

Top Scorer: (4 points)
Most Assists: (4 points)
Golden Glove: (4 points)
Player of the Year: (4 points)
Young Player of the Year: (4 points)
Manager of the Year: (4 points)

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (20 Points)

La Liga: (5 Points)
Bundesliga: (5 Points)
Serie A: (5 Points)
Ligue 1: (5 Points)

EUROPEAN CUPS (11 Points)

UEFA Champions League: (6 points)
UEFA Europa League: (3 points)
UEFA Europa Conference League: (2 points)

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Hall Of Champions:
2016-17: @Sloosh
2017-18: @Kellnerr
2018-19: @Pxul_
2019-20: @El_Nino
2020-21: @Pughy30
2021-22: @dannyboy

Kellnerr

PREMIER LEAGUE (35 Points)

Winner: Liverpool
Champions League Qualification: Man City, Chelsea, Spurs
Europa League Qualification: Arsenal, Man United
Europa Conference Qualification: Aston Villa
Relegated: Brentford, Fulham, Bournemouth
First Manager To Leave Their Job: Thomas Frank

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: Man City
FA Cup: Chelsea

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS (24 Points)

Top Scorer: Salah
Most Assists: De Bruyne
Golden Glove: Alisson
Player of the Year: Salah
Young Player of the Year: Haaland
Manager of the Year: Klopp

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (20 Points)

La Liga: Real
Bundesliga: Bayern
Serie A: Inter
Ligue 1: PSG

EUROPEAN CUPS (11 Points)

UEFA Champions League: Liverpool
UEFA Europa League: Roma
UEFA Europa Conference League: Villareal

Tropicaz XBL

PREMIER LEAGUE (35 Points)

Winner: Man City
Champions League Qualification: Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal
Europa League Qualification: Chelsea, Man United
Europa Conference Qualification: West Ham
Relegated: Leeds, Fulham, Bournemouth
First Manager To Leave Their Job: Lampard

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: Liverpool
FA Cup: Man United

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS (24 Points)

Top Scorer: Haaland
Most Assists: De Bruyne
Golden Glove: Alisson
Player of the Year: De Bruyne
Young Player of the Year: Saka
Manager of the Year: Guardiola

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (20 Points)

La Liga: Barcelona
Bundesliga: Bayern
Serie A: Inter
Ligue 1: PSG

EUROPEAN CUPS (11 Points)

UEFA Champions League: Liverpool
UEFA Europa League: Arsenal
UEFA Europa Conference League: West Ham

Bobo23

PREMIER LEAGUE

Winner: Man City
Champions League Qualification: Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea
Europa League Qualification: Arsenal, Man United
Europa Conference Qualification: West Ham
Relegated: Fulham, Bournemouth, Everton
First Manager To Leave Their Job: Lampard

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: Man City
FA Cup: Liverpool

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS (24 Points)

Top Scorer: Kane
Most Assists: KDB
Golden Glove: Ederson
Player of the Year: Kane
Young Player of the Year: Carvalho
Manager of the Year: Guardiola

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (20 Points)

La Liga: Real Madrid
Bundesliga: Bayern
Serie A: AC Milan
Ligue 1: PSG

EUROPEAN CUPS (11 Points)

UEFA Champions League: Man City
UEFA Europa League: Man United
UEFA Europa Conference League: West Ham

Stlducks

Might have to come back and make a change if a big transfer happens before match 1 but for now.

PREMIER LEAGUE

Winner: Liverpool
Champions League Qualification: Man City, Spurs, Chelsea
Europa League Qualification: Arsenal, West Ham
Europa Conference Qualification: Man United
Relegated: Nottm Forest, Bournemouth, Fulham
First Manager To Leave Their Job: Silva

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: Spurs
FA Cup: Liverpool

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS (24 Points)

Top Scorer: Kane
Most Assists: TAA
Golden Glove: Alison
Player of the Year: Kane
Young Player of the Year: Carvalho
Manager of the Year: Moyes

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (20 Points)

La Liga: Real Madrid
Bundesliga: Bayern
Serie A: Juve
Ligue 1: PSG

EUROPEAN CUPS (11 Points)

UEFA Champions League: Liverpool
UEFA Europa League: Arsenal
UEFA Europa Conference League: West Ham

Pxul_

Will do this later

Stlducks

I have nothing to do this morning so I will go through last years and find the winner since I didn't play.

Pietu

Pxul_ wrote: »

Will do this later

Same. Good luck @Cyodine top 2 is locked between us 👍

Pxul_

PREMIER LEAGUE

Winner: Liverpool
Champions League Qualification: Man City, Spurs, Arsenal
Europa League Qualification: Chelsea, Man United
Europa Conference Qualification: Villa
Relegated: Southampton, Bournemouth, Everton
First Manager To Leave Their Job: Lampard

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: Liverpool
FA Cup: Liverpool

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS (24 Points)

Top Scorer: Salah
Most Assists: Salah
Golden Glove: Alisson
Player of the Year: Salah
Young Player of the Year: Haaland
Manager of the Year: Klopp

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (20 Points)

La Liga: Real Madrid
Bundesliga: Bayern
Serie A: AC Milan
Ligue 1: PSG

EUROPEAN CUPS (11 Points)

UEFA Champions League: Liverpool
UEFA Europa League: Chelsea
UEFA Europa Conference League: West Ham

VVD4

Not a lot of faith in Chelsea this time round...

G000ner

PREMIER LEAGUE

Winner: Liverpool
Champions League Qualification: Man City, Arsenal, Spurs
Europa League Qualification: Chelsea, Man United
Europa Conference Qualification: West Ham
Relegated: Leeds, Forest, Bournemouth
First Manager To Leave Their Job: Jesse Marsch

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: City
FA Cup: Newcastle

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS

Top Scorer: Haaland
Most Assists: Grealish
Golden Glove: Ederson
Player of the Year: Salah
Young Player of the Year: Haaland
Manager of the Year: Klopp

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS

La Liga: Real Madrid
Bundesliga: Bayern
Serie A: Inter
Ligue 1: PSG

EUROPEAN CUPS

UEFA Champions League: Man City
UEFA Europa League: Arsenal
UEFA Europa Conference League: Villarreal

Shshj

PREMIER LEAGUE

Winner: Liverpool
Champions League Qualification: City, Spurs, Chelsea
Europa League Qualification: Arsenal, West Ham
Europa Conference Qualification: United
Relegated: Leeds, Southampton, Bournemouth
First Manager To Leave Their Job: Lampard

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: Chelsea
FA Cup: Spurs

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS (24 Points)

Top Scorer: Kane
Most Assists: Kane
Golden Glove: Alisson
Player of the Year: Kane
Young Player of the Year: Haaland
Manager of the Year: Klopp

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (20 Points)

La Liga: Real Madrid
Bundesliga: Bayern
Serie A: Inter
Ligue 1: PSG

EUROPEAN CUPS (11 Points)

UEFA Champions League: PSG
UEFA Europa League: Arsenal
UEFA Europa Conference League: West Ham

CFCsjmishra

Funny to see so many people predicting that Chelsea won't reach top 4.

In 21/22, our GD was 14/30 better than Spurs and Arsenal respectively. Even after losing Rudi/Christensen, we still have the better defence by far. Reece/Chilwell/Silva/Koulibaly are easily amongst the top players in their respective positions in the league. Both our full-backs were out for a major part of the last season that severely impacted both our attacking and defensive output. One could argue that WC/injuries would hurt us bitterly on the defensive front but isn't the same true for Arsenal/Spurs who have limited depth and are still building out their squad?

On the attacking front, we surely haven't weakened as compared to last year. Sterling is a great addition (will be a regular starter), Mount is only getting better, and Conor is a wild card (and is coming on the back of a great season and several awards). Anyway, I think we will still make a 1-2 big signings this summer which should see us get top 4 easily in the end.

arsenalap

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

Funny to see so many people predicting that Chelsea won't reach top 4.

In 21/22, our GD was 14/30 better than Spurs and Arsenal respectively. Even after losing Rudi/Christensen, we still have the better defence by far. Reece/Chilwell/Silva/Koulibaly are easily amongst the top players in their respective positions in the league. Both our full-backs were out for a major part of the last season that severely impacted both our attacking and defensive output. One could argue that WC/injuries would hurt us bitterly on the defensive front but isn't the same true for Arsenal/Spurs who have limited depth and are still building out their squad?

On the attacking front, we surely haven't weakened as compared to last year. Sterling is a great addition (will be a regular starter), Mount is only getting better, and Conor is a wild card (and is coming on the back of a great season and several awards). Anyway, I think we will still make a 1-2 big signings this summer which should see us get top 4 easily in the end.

Not sure if people are being swayed by the game on Saturday. But your form the 2nd half of last season didn't help either.

Your defence on paper is good, but you have 0 backups of quality atm.

Your attack on paper is good, but again, all your depth players seem to want out or just can't seem to score a goal.

Kante and Jorginho look far worse than 2 years ago.

Tuchel obviously currently agrees with the masses in here, but as you say, 2 or 3 signings can change things.

You left out the most important thing which is both Spurs and Arsenal have got overall stronger.

You replaced Rudiger with KK which is equal. You have Sterling which is a good addition, but it doesn't add up to what Spurs/Arsenal have done.

VVD4

Easy to forget that Spurs finished just 3 points behind Chelsea. Arsenal just 5.

Chelsea being in the Liverpool/City bracket for a few months was a false dawn. The xG table predicted the comedown.

CFCsjmishra

arsenalap wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

Funny to see so many people predicting that Chelsea won't reach top 4.

In 21/22, our GD was 14/30 better than Spurs and Arsenal respectively. Even after losing Rudi/Christensen, we still have the better defence by far. Reece/Chilwell/Silva/Koulibaly are easily amongst the top players in their respective positions in the league. Both our full-backs were out for a major part of the last season that severely impacted both our attacking and defensive output. One could argue that WC/injuries would hurt us bitterly on the defensive front but isn't the same true for Arsenal/Spurs who have limited depth and are still building out their squad?

On the attacking front, we surely haven't weakened as compared to last year. Sterling is a great addition (will be a regular starter), Mount is only getting better, and Conor is a wild card (and is coming on the back of a great season and several awards). Anyway, I think we will still make a 1-2 big signings this summer which should see us get top 4 easily in the end.

Not sure if people are being swayed by the game on Saturday. But your form the 2nd half of last season didn't help either.

Your defence on paper is good, but you have 0 backups of quality atm.

Your attack on paper is good, but again, all your depth players seem to want out or just can't seem to score a goal.

Kante and Jorginho look far worse than 2 years ago.

Tuchel obviously currently agrees with the masses in here, but as you say, 2 or 3 signings can change things.

You left out the most important thing which is both Spurs and Arsenal have got overall stronger.

You replaced Rudiger with KK which is equal. You have Sterling which is a good addition, but it doesn't add up to what Spurs/Arsenal have done.

To finish above us, Arsenal has to cover that 30 GD gap. I guess it comes down to whether they can cover that. Also, as I mentioned above, James/Chilwell were unfit for large parts of last season and they are the most critical pieces of our squad. I think people are forgetting that and mostly going on recent events (owner change, poor pre-season performance etc.).

arsenalap

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

arsenalap wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

Funny to see so many people predicting that Chelsea won't reach top 4.

In 21/22, our GD was 14/30 better than Spurs and Arsenal respectively. Even after losing Rudi/Christensen, we still have the better defence by far. Reece/Chilwell/Silva/Koulibaly are easily amongst the top players in their respective positions in the league. Both our full-backs were out for a major part of the last season that severely impacted both our attacking and defensive output. One could argue that WC/injuries would hurt us bitterly on the defensive front but isn't the same true for Arsenal/Spurs who have limited depth and are still building out their squad?

On the attacking front, we surely haven't weakened as compared to last year. Sterling is a great addition (will be a regular starter), Mount is only getting better, and Conor is a wild card (and is coming on the back of a great season and several awards). Anyway, I think we will still make a 1-2 big signings this summer which should see us get top 4 easily in the end.

Not sure if people are being swayed by the game on Saturday. But your form the 2nd half of last season didn't help either.

Your defence on paper is good, but you have 0 backups of quality atm.

Your attack on paper is good, but again, all your depth players seem to want out or just can't seem to score a goal.

Kante and Jorginho look far worse than 2 years ago.

Tuchel obviously currently agrees with the masses in here, but as you say, 2 or 3 signings can change things.

You left out the most important thing which is both Spurs and Arsenal have got overall stronger.

You replaced Rudiger with KK which is equal. You have Sterling which is a good addition, but it doesn't add up to what Spurs/Arsenal have done.

To finish above us, Arsenal has to cover that 30 GD gap. I guess it comes down to whether they can cover that. Also, as I mentioned above, James/Chilwell were unfit for large parts of last season and they are the most critical pieces of our squad. I think people are forgetting that and mostly going on recent events (owner change, poor pre-season performance etc.).

That isn't how football works ha.

We need to close 5 points, not 30 GD...

Appreciate James/Chilwell but we missed Tomi/Partey/Tierney for huge parts and it was cruicial. We also had basically no striker who could score consistently.

We have Saliba/Zinchenko now for the defence, and Jesus who will lift our attack a lot. We have more experience in the squad and management.

I am worried about Partey/backup still and hoping we solve that. But we clearly aren't done in the market.

The variable we have is EL, which will be interesting. But that's why I hope we make 2 more signings, in which case we will have more than enough depth to cope.

VVD4

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

arsenalap wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

Funny to see so many people predicting that Chelsea won't reach top 4.

In 21/22, our GD was 14/30 better than Spurs and Arsenal respectively. Even after losing Rudi/Christensen, we still have the better defence by far. Reece/Chilwell/Silva/Koulibaly are easily amongst the top players in their respective positions in the league. Both our full-backs were out for a major part of the last season that severely impacted both our attacking and defensive output. One could argue that WC/injuries would hurt us bitterly on the defensive front but isn't the same true for Arsenal/Spurs who have limited depth and are still building out their squad?

On the attacking front, we surely haven't weakened as compared to last year. Sterling is a great addition (will be a regular starter), Mount is only getting better, and Conor is a wild card (and is coming on the back of a great season and several awards). Anyway, I think we will still make a 1-2 big signings this summer which should see us get top 4 easily in the end.

Not sure if people are being swayed by the game on Saturday. But your form the 2nd half of last season didn't help either.

Your defence on paper is good, but you have 0 backups of quality atm.

Your attack on paper is good, but again, all your depth players seem to want out or just can't seem to score a goal.

Kante and Jorginho look far worse than 2 years ago.

Tuchel obviously currently agrees with the masses in here, but as you say, 2 or 3 signings can change things.

You left out the most important thing which is both Spurs and Arsenal have got overall stronger.

You replaced Rudiger with KK which is equal. You have Sterling which is a good addition, but it doesn't add up to what Spurs/Arsenal have done.

To finish above us, Arsenal has to cover that 30 GD gap. I guess it comes down to whether they can cover that. Also, as I mentioned above, James/Chilwell were unfit for large parts of last season and they are the most critical pieces of our squad. I think people are forgetting that and mostly going on recent events (owner change, poor pre-season performance etc.).

Chelsea fans downplaying the significance of Liverpool losing all their CBs in the 20/21 season is essentially one of the big reasons I signed up

Kinda ironic.

CFCsjmishra

arsenalap wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

arsenalap wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

Funny to see so many people predicting that Chelsea won't reach top 4.

In 21/22, our GD was 14/30 better than Spurs and Arsenal respectively. Even after losing Rudi/Christensen, we still have the better defence by far. Reece/Chilwell/Silva/Koulibaly are easily amongst the top players in their respective positions in the league. Both our full-backs were out for a major part of the last season that severely impacted both our attacking and defensive output. One could argue that WC/injuries would hurt us bitterly on the defensive front but isn't the same true for Arsenal/Spurs who have limited depth and are still building out their squad?

On the attacking front, we surely haven't weakened as compared to last year. Sterling is a great addition (will be a regular starter), Mount is only getting better, and Conor is a wild card (and is coming on the back of a great season and several awards). Anyway, I think we will still make a 1-2 big signings this summer which should see us get top 4 easily in the end.

Not sure if people are being swayed by the game on Saturday. But your form the 2nd half of last season didn't help either.

Your defence on paper is good, but you have 0 backups of quality atm.

Your attack on paper is good, but again, all your depth players seem to want out or just can't seem to score a goal.

Kante and Jorginho look far worse than 2 years ago.

Tuchel obviously currently agrees with the masses in here, but as you say, 2 or 3 signings can change things.

You left out the most important thing which is both Spurs and Arsenal have got overall stronger.

You replaced Rudiger with KK which is equal. You have Sterling which is a good addition, but it doesn't add up to what Spurs/Arsenal have done.

To finish above us, Arsenal has to cover that 30 GD gap. I guess it comes down to whether they can cover that. Also, as I mentioned above, James/Chilwell were unfit for large parts of last season and they are the most critical pieces of our squad. I think people are forgetting that and mostly going on recent events (owner change, poor pre-season performance etc.).

That isn't how football works ha.

We need to close 5 points, not 30 GD...

Just see the PL tables of any year for top 4 positions vs 5/6. In these positions, it's tough to finish above a team if you don't have a better GD (I can only see one example: Chelsea under Lampard where we conceded too much and our defence was shambles). Broadly speaking, to finish above us, you will have to score more and concede less (doing one of these factors is also okay but then it has to be significantly outstanding: comparatively you score a lot or concede v less which I don't see Arsenal doing as their squad is also in the dev phase)

arsenalap

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

arsenalap wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

arsenalap wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

Funny to see so many people predicting that Chelsea won't reach top 4.

In 21/22, our GD was 14/30 better than Spurs and Arsenal respectively. Even after losing Rudi/Christensen, we still have the better defence by far. Reece/Chilwell/Silva/Koulibaly are easily amongst the top players in their respective positions in the league. Both our full-backs were out for a major part of the last season that severely impacted both our attacking and defensive output. One could argue that WC/injuries would hurt us bitterly on the defensive front but isn't the same true for Arsenal/Spurs who have limited depth and are still building out their squad?

On the attacking front, we surely haven't weakened as compared to last year. Sterling is a great addition (will be a regular starter), Mount is only getting better, and Conor is a wild card (and is coming on the back of a great season and several awards). Anyway, I think we will still make a 1-2 big signings this summer which should see us get top 4 easily in the end.

Not sure if people are being swayed by the game on Saturday. But your form the 2nd half of last season didn't help either.

Your defence on paper is good, but you have 0 backups of quality atm.

Your attack on paper is good, but again, all your depth players seem to want out or just can't seem to score a goal.

Kante and Jorginho look far worse than 2 years ago.

Tuchel obviously currently agrees with the masses in here, but as you say, 2 or 3 signings can change things.

You left out the most important thing which is both Spurs and Arsenal have got overall stronger.

You replaced Rudiger with KK which is equal. You have Sterling which is a good addition, but it doesn't add up to what Spurs/Arsenal have done.

To finish above us, Arsenal has to cover that 30 GD gap. I guess it comes down to whether they can cover that. Also, as I mentioned above, James/Chilwell were unfit for large parts of last season and they are the most critical pieces of our squad. I think people are forgetting that and mostly going on recent events (owner change, poor pre-season performance etc.).

That isn't how football works ha.

We need to close 5 points, not 30 GD...

Just see the PL tables of any year for top 4 positions vs 5/6. In these positions, it's tough to finish above a team if you don't have a better GD (I can only see one example: Chelsea under Lampard where we conceded too much and our defence was shambles). Broadly speaking, to finish above us, you will have to score more and concede less (doing one of these factors is also okay but then it has to be significantly outstanding: comparatively you score a lot or concede v less which I don't see Arsenal doing as their squad is also in the dev phase)

I mean, our squad isn't really in the dev phase anymore. If we do make 2 more signings, our squad is almost complete for what we want to do. Granted some of the players are developing further, but in terms of getting top 4, I think we have gone up another level this summer.

I still think we will finish 5th personally with a shot of finishing 4th, but that depends on what Chelsea do in the next month mostly.

For now if things are exactly the same, I back us to finish above you. But they won't be I am guessing.

CFCsjmishra

VVD4 wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

arsenalap wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

Funny to see so many people predicting that Chelsea won't reach top 4.

In 21/22, our GD was 14/30 better than Spurs and Arsenal respectively. Even after losing Rudi/Christensen, we still have the better defence by far. Reece/Chilwell/Silva/Koulibaly are easily amongst the top players in their respective positions in the league. Both our full-backs were out for a major part of the last season that severely impacted both our attacking and defensive output. One could argue that WC/injuries would hurt us bitterly on the defensive front but isn't the same true for Arsenal/Spurs who have limited depth and are still building out their squad?

On the attacking front, we surely haven't weakened as compared to last year. Sterling is a great addition (will be a regular starter), Mount is only getting better, and Conor is a wild card (and is coming on the back of a great season and several awards). Anyway, I think we will still make a 1-2 big signings this summer which should see us get top 4 easily in the end.

Not sure if people are being swayed by the game on Saturday. But your form the 2nd half of last season didn't help either.

Your defence on paper is good, but you have 0 backups of quality atm.

Your attack on paper is good, but again, all your depth players seem to want out or just can't seem to score a goal.

Kante and Jorginho look far worse than 2 years ago.

Tuchel obviously currently agrees with the masses in here, but as you say, 2 or 3 signings can change things.

You left out the most important thing which is both Spurs and Arsenal have got overall stronger.

You replaced Rudiger with KK which is equal. You have Sterling which is a good addition, but it doesn't add up to what Spurs/Arsenal have done.

To finish above us, Arsenal has to cover that 30 GD gap. I guess it comes down to whether they can cover that. Also, as I mentioned above, James/Chilwell were unfit for large parts of last season and they are the most critical pieces of our squad. I think people are forgetting that and mostly going on recent events (owner change, poor pre-season performance etc.).

Chelsea fans downplaying the significance of Liverpool losing all their CBs in the 20/21 season is essentially one of the big reasons I signed up

Kinda ironic.

It's kinda a similar situation tbh. Last year, most non-Liv fans on here predicted that Liverpool won't win the title and most likely get 4th position. It's simply because people forget that how heavily injuries impacted the last season. Just the recency effect in play with a lot of these predictions

arsenalap

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

VVD4 wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

arsenalap wrote: »

CFCsjmishra wrote: »

Funny to see so many people predicting that Chelsea won't reach top 4.

In 21/22, our GD was 14/30 better than Spurs and Arsenal respectively. Even after losing Rudi/Christensen, we still have the better defence by far. Reece/Chilwell/Silva/Koulibaly are easily amongst the top players in their respective positions in the league. Both our full-backs were out for a major part of the last season that severely impacted both our attacking and defensive output. One could argue that WC/injuries would hurt us bitterly on the defensive front but isn't the same true for Arsenal/Spurs who have limited depth and are still building out their squad?

On the attacking front, we surely haven't weakened as compared to last year. Sterling is a great addition (will be a regular starter), Mount is only getting better, and Conor is a wild card (and is coming on the back of a great season and several awards). Anyway, I think we will still make a 1-2 big signings this summer which should see us get top 4 easily in the end.

Not sure if people are being swayed by the game on Saturday. But your form the 2nd half of last season didn't help either.

Your defence on paper is good, but you have 0 backups of quality atm.

Your attack on paper is good, but again, all your depth players seem to want out or just can't seem to score a goal.

Kante and Jorginho look far worse than 2 years ago.

Tuchel obviously currently agrees with the masses in here, but as you say, 2 or 3 signings can change things.

You left out the most important thing which is both Spurs and Arsenal have got overall stronger.

You replaced Rudiger with KK which is equal. You have Sterling which is a good addition, but it doesn't add up to what Spurs/Arsenal have done.

To finish above us, Arsenal has to cover that 30 GD gap. I guess it comes down to whether they can cover that. Also, as I mentioned above, James/Chilwell were unfit for large parts of last season and they are the most critical pieces of our squad. I think people are forgetting that and mostly going on recent events (owner change, poor pre-season performance etc.).

Chelsea fans downplaying the significance of Liverpool losing all their CBs in the 20/21 season is essentially one of the big reasons I signed up

Kinda ironic.

It's kinda a similar situation tbh. Last year, most non-Liv fans on here predicted that Liverpool won't win the title and most likely get 4th position. It's simply because people forget that how heavily injuries impacted the last season. Just the recency effect in play with a lot of these predictions

Well yes but you've also lost Lukaku, Rudiger, Christensen and could lose Alonso, Azpi, and some of your forwards.

And again, Kante and Jorginho look not at the same level anymore.

I am sure James/Chilwell will help you a lot, but you still need to do a lot of business.

SimenHP

I am not worried one bit that we finish outside of top 4, that's just where we are atm. People think we will get 5th place, but in reality, Chelsea is the 3rd best team in the league, even though people may not think so.

We have always been better than Arsenal and Spurs (in the last 10ish years) at getting the points needed even when we look really poor. Just look at last season, I can't think of any PL teams with as many backstage issues as we had with Roman last season and even with all of that we still managed to get where most people thought we would end at before all problems behind the scene started happening.

CFCsjmishra

Honestly think Lukaku's departure is a net positive but yeah I guess it will heavily come down to rest of transfer window + injuries later on in the season. I guess my view is more optimistic where KK, Silva will make sure we are solid and Reece/Chilwell will provide a healthy chunk of goal contributions (hopefully somewhat comparable to the fullback duo at Liverpool). Jesus is an interesting one too. Won't put it past him to score ~20 goals which can get Arsenal critical points/top 4

Bobo23

I'm not overly optimistic about our season in terms of pushing for trophies, but I still feel we'll make the top 4 comfortably.

I don't expect a blistering start to the season from us that's for sure, but barring injuries our first choice XI is nowhere near as bad as some people make out. It's just whether the likes of Chilwell, James, Kante, Kovacic etc can stay fit and find form.

Pre-season form hasn't been great to say the least, but Sterling and Koulibaly are great additions. And our only real big loss was Rudiger. So for all the negativity, things really aren't as bad as they look.

arsenalap

Also let's try and leave the big discussion till after we have all the predictions in if possible just as it'll be easier for everyone to read.

Cyodine

PREMIER LEAGUE (35 Points)

Winner: Liverpool
Champions League Qualification: Man City, Spurs, Arsenal
Europa League Qualification: Chelsea, Man United
Europa Conference Qualification: West Ham
Relegated: Leeds, Fulham, Bournemouth
First Manager To Leave Their Job: Lampard

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: Man City
FA Cup: Spurs

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS (24 Points)

Top Scorer: Salah
Most Assists: TAA
Golden Glove: Alisson
Player of the Year: Salah
Young Player of the Year: Carvalho
Manager of the Year: Klopp

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (20 Points)

La Liga: Real Madrid
Bundesliga: Bayern
Serie A: Roma
Ligue 1: PSG

EUROPEAN CUPS (11 Points)

UEFA Champions League: Liverpool
UEFA Europa League: Arsenal
UEFA Europa Conference League: West Ham

Pietu

Hey @arsenalap and others, seeing that it's the WC year, should we add WC winner to the predictions?

Wyojasond

PREMIER LEAGUE (35 Points)

Winner: Liverpool
Champions League Qualification: Man City, Spurs, Chelsea
Europa League Qualification: Arsenal, Man United
Europa Conference Qualification: Newcastle
Relegated: Leeds, Fulham, Bournemouth
First Manager To Leave Their Job: Scott Parker

DOMESTIC CUPS (10 Points)

EFL Cup: Man City
FA Cup: Chelsea

PREMIER LEAGUE---INDIVIDUAL HONORS (24 Points)

Top Scorer: Salah
Most Assists: TAA
Golden Glove: Alisson
Player of the Year: Salah
Young Player of the Year: Carvalho
Manager of the Year: Klopp

EUROPEAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS (20 Points)

La Liga: Real Madrid
Bundesliga: Bayern
Serie A: Inter
Ligue 1: PSG

EUROPEAN CUPS (11 Points)

UEFA Champions League: Liverpool
UEFA Europa League: Roma
UEFA Europa Conference League: Villarreal

VVD4

Every time I attempt to do this, I get stuck on whether it’ll be Arsenal or Chelsea that get top 4 and I just give up.

El_Nino

VVD4 wrote: »

Every time I attempt to do this, I get stuck on whether it’ll be Arsenal or Chelsea that get top 4 and I just give up.

I feel like our transfer activity(or potential lack of) in the next next two weeks will help make this decision.