Awful gameplay in futties cups
I expect this thread will draw a lot of git gud responses but I just needed to write down my thoughts.
Futties cups feels, for one reason or another, like a complete sham to me.
I can play a friendly in another mode, such as classic kick off and the game is stable, responsive and generally very playable. I then play futties cup, which has a better ping than the other friendly variations but is the complete opposite.
It is very unstable, without any yellow or red flags, it is very unresponsive, with horrible lag, and is generally unplayable.
It seems like AI is super unhelpful for me, but very efficient for the opponent. passes, shots and tackles are ineffective (I’m sure many know the drill). The problem is, this is a limited game mode and I do not have the option to back out and try again. I slee St o feel I need to grind the game (it feels like I am literally pushing my players to get them where I want to go as they have their own path they want to take, even when the cursor is above them, in order to try to get a win out of it for the chance of a nice reward.
Anyway, I feel that IF the reason for this is connection based (but the ping?), I’d be much happier the ping was accurate and I could spend four or five mins looking for a game that is stable (it’s a 15-18 min game with pens) than a fake ping and a very unenjoyable 15-18 mins. If it isn’t the ping, what is it? It’s not my connection, I have a great router, high speed bb and a cat 8 Ethernet cable…
Futties cups feels, for one reason or another, like a complete sham to me.
I can play a friendly in another mode, such as classic kick off and the game is stable, responsive and generally very playable. I then play futties cup, which has a better ping than the other friendly variations but is the complete opposite.
It is very unstable, without any yellow or red flags, it is very unresponsive, with horrible lag, and is generally unplayable.
It seems like AI is super unhelpful for me, but very efficient for the opponent. passes, shots and tackles are ineffective (I’m sure many know the drill). The problem is, this is a limited game mode and I do not have the option to back out and try again. I slee St o feel I need to grind the game (it feels like I am literally pushing my players to get them where I want to go as they have their own path they want to take, even when the cursor is above them, in order to try to get a win out of it for the chance of a nice reward.
Anyway, I feel that IF the reason for this is connection based (but the ping?), I’d be much happier the ping was accurate and I could spend four or five mins looking for a game that is stable (it’s a 15-18 min game with pens) than a fake ping and a very unenjoyable 15-18 mins. If it isn’t the ping, what is it? It’s not my connection, I have a great router, high speed bb and a cat 8 Ethernet cable…
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But this cup seems to be something totally different. My players are just static. No chasing runs or covering. Tackles not working. I'm being tackled from 3 feet behind before I can even recieve the ball.
Goalkeepers are sickening. My players seem to go slow when on the ball, getting caught by a defender who was having to turn and chase in a split second.
Worst of all though... kick off goals... they seem to be able to score them at will. Nothing I can do to stop them. Probably because of all the above reasons 🤣
Not in the slightest. I was the one playing it, and for me, it totally isn’t. As I said, whether it’s connection or not, it’s chalk and cheese to any other game mode at present.
I get a bit frustrated with it as well. It shouldn’t, but it does. I guess it’s because I know it could be so much better if they invested just a tiny percentage of their profit (one way or another) into making the experience better for the consumer.
Definitely not the same.... I'm playing with a very strong brazil side so it's not low rated players causing it. I'm not great but I'm D1 and play a lot of fifa... it feels way different.
My Brazil team is solid as well.
Still if the opponent pauses to sub and do sub too. And my subs literally change the "gameplay". Suddenly it's way easier to attack.
Even a solid Brazil team is not a maxed out main team and feels worse. Not as bad as those Liverpool clowns last week, but still not perfect.
My SS Marcelo is doing all sorts of weird animations, can’t accelerate, over runs the ball, makes delayed runs when i trigger with L1 and delayed reactions when i trigger R1 and he is elite. Unfortunately some of us really do suffer in these modes and the difference is incredible if I switch to rivals with the same team.
I play a lot too, elite every season (I’m not pulling up trees but I’m decent) and I am very sensitive to the nonsense in this game. It makes me feel like I have some kind of hand eye coordination problem/motor neurone disorder (which I don’t - I have 20/20 and very good reflexes and coordination)…it’s truly horrible…
I know that sounds OTT and melodramatic but it’s not the best experience.
For what we invest in this game (and yes, even though there is no reward beyond the occasional synaptic flare, and maybe a little self satisfaction if we get a good result, a not insignificant amount of money and time are sunk into it), we should be able to expect a lot more, and I think we deserve it for the exorbitant returns we provide to the EA shareholder.
Also, when speaking of satisfaction, it does spur the wins a little when you consider that someone else might be experiencing the worst when we (all too infrequently) enjoy the best.
Final point, in previous FIFA’s, I’m talking before this engine and the ‘connection’ causing all sorts of issues, I used to spank people constantly…now far too many games seem too close. I know this could be down to other people levelling you in terms of skill, but it’s not just that, it’s something else, it’s the way my team plays, the mistakes made that simply aren’t down to my input. Like I said, my team should always play the same - they should respond to input exactly as expected, 9 out of 10 times, (I know the opponent might be different and there are rng elements in the game but it should still operate on a set group of physical rules, but these seem to shift from moment to moment.) and it simply doesn’t, from game mode to fane mode, from day to day, even from game to game.
Never, ever accelerate if there is a player near you, your player will stop for a moment before accelerating. Likewise never ever through ball when there is an opponent near your receiver, the ball will never reach your player. Also, left trigger seems to give the ball away when you’re in possession shoulder to shoulder with the opponent, I find, so I only ever use it when I gave my back to them. So many ‘broken’ or poorly balanced (perhaps due to the inability to stop them being overpowered) mechanics in the game…it wouldn’t be so bad though, if they always worked the same…
But feel free to post some gameplay from that cup, I'm sure people can help you spot where you have made wrong decisions.
I know I make mistakes because I’m not an elite player. Well, I’m always in the elite devision but I know that makes me slightly above average this year at best. Im not talking about losing games either as I’ve won 3 then 4 which is decent given the gameplay. What I’m talking about is the basic mechanics of the game not functioning as they should. Will try and capture some video footage tonight as it’s been consistently bad the last two evenings.
Brazil cup favor the people who is good at turning, spinning, fake shot acceleration, just no way to stop them.
While normal 10 yard pass without pressure goes directly into opponents.
Meanwhile every pass forward I make his defenders seem to teleport in front ogmf my reciever... or reciever takes so long to control the ball he's got 4 men on him.
No thanks I'll not be bothering with that again 🤣
It’s a bit rubbish isn’t it? Apart from the full celebration and pausing…that bit’s great…
It might not be all ea’s fault. It may just be full of try hard, lag compensating sweats, as all the ‘normal’ players have left the mode…still, it would ultimately be EA’s fault for allowing it to happen.
You can search this forum on that topic. It could be fixed but they've chosen to ignore it, exactly like how they've chosen not to include Pro Clubs for 23's cross-play. THEY JUST DON'T CARE and the thing is you still give them money annually despite knowing this, so why would they start to care ??? Remember this exact time, it will still be the same next year.
When the essence of the sports itself is about FAIR PLAY, how can you put up a fight with someone whose players are not in the "mud" while your players are clearly in the "mud" ??? When you are matched with someone like this, it's a hassle already but to get your chance of completing all the cup objectives limited ??? In July ??? Don't you think something is wrong inside the head of the guy in charge of these cup modes ???
Are you really gonna just sit there typing here, complaining the same complaints annually about how awful your FUTTIES Cup matches ??? Or are you starting to demand the phrase that EA pretend they never hear, FAIR PLAY ???
Are you really gonna let them throw the same Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM) annually while at the same time they're doing nothing about it and you're actually miserable from playing their game ??? Or are you going to demand real CALM when playing their game ???
Dedicated game servers are meant so everything is fair for everyone despite differences in connection speed and network environment, not the other way around. If a claimed dedicated game server is not being fair to a lot of people then a big question mark must be raised.
And pls don't come at me with that I play so much fifa I just "know" or I can "feel" it. That's not how you report issues and that's now how you get anything changed or fixed either.
Totally agree with you, especially that part on one having a great game but when realising the opponent maybe have the worst of connection makes a win unsatisfactory.