Sorry, but this has been going on too long.. It's time!!
You have completely butchered this once great game, mainly over the past 10 years! I thought i'd give you a chance to turn things around on PS5 with Fifa 21 and now Fifa 22, but the game is a complete mess, from top to bottom! It's completely riddled with bugs, nevermind missing/removed features! And it seems, due to the fact it is January next week, that you have no intention of fixing any of these issues! How you had the cheek to sell this game at full price when it is very evident it's far from the finished game, is quite appalling.. Nevermind the constant lack of communication!!
You need to either make 2 completely seperate games.. Fifa 23 & UT 23 and keep them completely polar opposite and have 2 seperate dev teams for each!! Keep Ultimate & Volta to the Arcade Style and everything else Simulation such as Career Mode, Seasons etc..
Or resign!! And let someone else come in and fix the mess you have created..
Fifa needs new management and new devs to come in to sit down and look at every area of the game (similar to what Patrick Gilmore is doing with the WWE 2K games franchise) and fix it!! Thats before even contemplating where to take the series going forward..
I agree and support this notion. This has been seriously p*** poor from EA and in no way shape or form, good enough! I haven't played a FIFA game, since FIFA 17 back on the PS4 Pro. And the game has improved in certain/specific areas since then.. Yet, the ONLY mode that really gets any love or attention, is FUT and it's absolutely disgusting! This year has just taken the biscuit, with the lack of communication, updates and everything else. Personally, I SERIOUSLY don't care for FUT.. PERIOD! I hate the mode! But the only reason it gets the most attention and love, is because it makes money for EA (I have no idea why or how people can be that gullible and naive, as to buy the game every year, just for that god awful mode!)
EA either need new staff and management, for the FIFA series.. Ones that ACTUALLY listen to the community feedback. NOT those who say and pretend they do, when they actually don't.
Sorry, but this has been going on too long.. It's time!!
You have completely butchered this once great game, mainly over the past 10 years! I thought i'd give you a chance to turn things around on PS5 with Fifa 21 and now Fifa 22, but the game is a complete mess, from top to bottom! It's completely riddled with bugs, nevermind missing/removed features! And it seems, due to the fact it is January next week, that you have no intention of fixing any of these issues! How you had the cheek to sell this game at full price when it is very evident it's far from the finished game, is quite appalling.. Nevermind the constant lack of communication!!
You need to either make 2 completely seperate games.. Fifa 23 & UT 23 and keep them completely polar opposite and have 2 seperate dev teams for each!! Keep Ultimate & Volta to the Arcade Style and everything else Simulation such as Career Mode, Seasons etc..
Or resign!! And let someone else come in and fix the mess you have created..
Fifa needs new management and new devs to come in to sit down and look at every area of the game (similar to what Patrick Gilmore is doing with the WWE 2K games franchise) and fix it!! Thats before even contemplating where to take the series going forward..
Enough is enough!!
#FifaDevsOut
FIFA has never had the intention nor supposed to have been any form of _REALISTIC SIM_ making a thread about how you want this game series to be or become something it have never tried to be is beyond stupid. Go find the PES forums and tell KONAMI to fix their product, FIFA is and have more or less (back to the 90's) been an ARCADE INSPIRED interpretation of what Football is.
Go yell at your neighbors cat and berate it for not being a dog,
> @ponnyslakteriet said: > FIFA has never had the intention nor supposed to have been any form of _REALISTIC SIM_ making a thread about how you want this game series to be or become something it have never tried to be is beyond stupid. Go find the PES forums and tell KONAMI to fix their product, FIFA is and have more or less (back to the 90's) been an ARCADE INSPIRED interpretation of what Football is. > > > Go yell at your neighbors cat and berate it for not being a dog,
Your argument is intellectually dishonest and I think you know it is. He’s not complaining about the “realism” of the game. Its the lack of any creativity and imagination. Think of how much you could do with a game like FIFA. How many features you could add that would make the gameplay better. But they don’t do this. They rely on the psychology of gambling to make a profit with FUT. They know what they’re doing. They know they made a ❤️❤️❤️❤️ game and they don’t care. They want your money
Your argument is intellectually dishonest and I think you know it is. He’s not complaining about the “realism” of the game.
Its the lack of any creativity and imagination.
But they don’t do this. They rely on the psychology of gambling to make a profit with FUT. They know what they’re doing. They know they made a ❤️❤️❤️❤️ game and they don’t care. They want your money
'Intellectually dishonest' ? What does that even mean? And he very clearly is complaining about the 'realism' you can't suggest you want the game to be split in TWO separate offerings and refer to one as ARCADE and the other SIM (SIMULATION) and not bring REALISM into it.
What are all these 'features' that could be brought in? The thing you are having massive problems with understanding is that EA isn't 'FORCING' anything down peoples throat, it's a reflection of what the TRENDS in gaming in general reflect, and sadly people who want some 'DEEP SIM' Football type experience is not the majority (or anywhere close to it) in GAMING today.
Just look at the other Football games in development, what are they tailored towards? KONAMI spent THREE years on the current PES and what's the name of the title they released? E-FOOTBALL <---
I'll make a analogy type comparasin to a couple of other gaming genres to illustrate my point, i grew up on the classic Point & Click adventure games from companies like SIERRA,LUCASARTS GAMES,ADVENTURE SOFT & REVOLUTION SOFTWARE in the late 80's to late 90's you used to get almost a handfull of these games a year but in the 2000's (when ONLINE gaming started to take off) this GENRE more or less died, some attempts were made to bring it into the '3D' realm but ultimately it all came to a halt and these days you get one of these titles once every blue moon at best.
Same goes for the C-RPG's A genre that was practicly DEAD until it was brought back to life through the means of KICKSTARTER. And that's really my point. What's being made is a reflection of what the 'masses' prefer.
Personally i stopped playing FUT and haven't touched that game mode since like 2016, I used to play competively as a teenager into my early adult years but ultimately i massively dislike the atmosphere and climate of 'online' gaming. But since i still like Football games i made the conscious choice to move from CONSOLE to PC since it offers me the possibility to TAILOR my gaming experience completely with the help of modding.
Basicly what i am saying is that i'm just thankful at this stage FIFA even offers a 'offline' mode at all, because based on everything known and if i look at what other Football games in development is offering i realize that everything points to 'OFFLINE' not being a priority what so ever.
there is an EA employee - Joel Doonan. said in early December that matchmaking was fixed. talking out of his shiny ❤️❤️❤️❤️. i searched for an opponent 40 times, 0 found. i wish nothing but hell for EA
This change to instruct DM to stay outside of its own box to defend is a LAUGHING stock haha !!
What kind of logic when the opposing Attacking midfielders or even wing back run into your own box to attack, while your own AI defensive midfield stay on the edge of the box to WATCH the game ?
I had a game that two of my defenders got Red (sent off), it left only 2 defenders to defend 5 attackers (striker and attacking midfielders of my opponent in online season), while all the rest of my players (CDM, Midfielders) all stay outside of the box, stand and watch my team being tortured by 5 opposing attackers.
EA developer/designer want to see BIG scores in every game, 9 goals or double digit goals between 2 teams in 90 minutes, without taking into account the logic and real match game-play.
That's why the game is frustrating for many.
I am fine and calm to accept the result of the match, either lose or win, but I simply want the game-play to design in a more realistic, authentic, and fair for everyone who engages in football and plays this game.
AI attacking midfielders or wing back shouldn't be allowed to get in the box of opposing team, IF AI defensive midfielders are not running back to the own box to defend.
Come on, let's make some senses to encourage fair game-play
AI attacking midfielders or wing back shouldn't be allowed to get in the box of opposing team, IF AI defensive midfielders are not running back to the own box to defend.
Come on, let's make some senses to encourage fair game-play
Please say it again. I can't understand how AI defense can get all 11 of their players behind the ball when necessary and press all game! How! Meanwhile, I must go to sliders and ❤️❤️❤️❤️ around to try and make things a bit better. Problem is, there is ALWAYS a gameplay issue with this crap. My players dumb down when in position to score. Slow down literally. Playing bottom table teams and they are able to get near my box anytime they attack. I mean, they attack so direct while my players defensively do everything the can to have open GAPS for them to run through..
I swear i will loose my mind.What a crap gameplay is that what a ❤️❤️❤️❤️ patch i am punching my door walls .Immediately they must bring back the previous game setting
I agree I have had the PS4 version majority of the year just recently got the ps5 version I don’t understand how it’s possible the next gen version is less responsive than the PS4 version and the passing is just terrible. Great loading times in career mode but the gameplay is horrific.
I dont think their objective is to make a fun game, I just think they care about keeping the few percent who buy FUT packs engaged in doing so. The gameplay loop isnt realistic or fun, but they have to throw up artificial barriers to get people annoyed or feeling their teams are inadequate, hence these bad gameplay decisions so that players cannot easily earn points playing AI opponents. Its weird how the goalies can be so absolutely awful at times isnt it? oh no.. wait, guess its time to buy FUT packs to get a better goalie.
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I haven't played a FIFA game, since FIFA 17 back on the PS4 Pro. And the game has improved in certain/specific areas since then.. Yet, the ONLY mode that really gets any love or attention, is FUT and it's absolutely disgusting! This year has just taken the biscuit, with the lack of communication, updates and everything else. Personally, I SERIOUSLY don't care for FUT.. PERIOD! I hate the mode! But the only reason it gets the most attention and love, is because it makes money for EA (I have no idea why or how people can be that gullible and naive, as to buy the game every year, just for that god awful mode!)
EA either need new staff and management, for the FIFA series.. Ones that ACTUALLY listen to the community feedback. NOT those who say and pretend they do, when they actually don't.
FIFA has never had the intention nor supposed to have been any form of _REALISTIC SIM_ making a thread about how you want this game series to be or become something it have never tried to be is beyond stupid. Go find the PES forums and tell KONAMI to fix their product, FIFA is and have more or less (back to the 90's) been an ARCADE INSPIRED interpretation of what Football is.
Go yell at your neighbors cat and berate it for not being a dog,
> FIFA has never had the intention nor supposed to have been any form of _REALISTIC SIM_ making a thread about how you want this game series to be or become something it have never tried to be is beyond stupid. Go find the PES forums and tell KONAMI to fix their product, FIFA is and have more or less (back to the 90's) been an ARCADE INSPIRED interpretation of what Football is.
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> Go yell at your neighbors cat and berate it for not being a dog,
Your argument is intellectually dishonest and I think you know it is. He’s not complaining about the “realism” of the game.
Its the lack of any creativity and imagination.
Think of how much you could do with a game like FIFA. How many features you could add that would make the gameplay better.
But they don’t do this. They rely on the psychology of gambling to make a profit with FUT. They know what they’re doing. They know they made a ❤️❤️❤️❤️ game and they don’t care. They want your money
'Intellectually dishonest' ? What does that even mean? And he very clearly is complaining about the 'realism' you can't suggest you want the game to be split in TWO separate offerings and refer to one as ARCADE and the other SIM (SIMULATION) and not bring REALISM into it.
What are all these 'features' that could be brought in? The thing you are having massive problems with understanding is that EA isn't 'FORCING' anything down peoples throat, it's a reflection of what the TRENDS in gaming in general reflect, and sadly people who want some 'DEEP SIM' Football type experience is not the majority (or anywhere close to it) in GAMING today.
Just look at the other Football games in development, what are they tailored towards? KONAMI spent THREE years on the current PES and what's the name of the title they released? E-FOOTBALL <---
I'll make a analogy type comparasin to a couple of other gaming genres to illustrate my point, i grew up on the classic Point & Click adventure games from companies like SIERRA,LUCASARTS GAMES,ADVENTURE SOFT & REVOLUTION SOFTWARE in the late 80's to late 90's you used to get almost a handfull of these games a year but in the 2000's (when ONLINE gaming started to take off) this GENRE more or less died, some attempts were made to bring it into the '3D' realm but ultimately it all came to a halt and these days you get one of these titles once every blue moon at best.
Same goes for the C-RPG's A genre that was practicly DEAD until it was brought back to life through the means of KICKSTARTER. And that's really my point. What's being made is a reflection of what the 'masses' prefer.
Personally i stopped playing FUT and haven't touched that game mode since like 2016, I used to play competively as a teenager into my early adult years but ultimately i massively dislike the atmosphere and climate of 'online' gaming. But since i still like Football games i made the conscious choice to move from CONSOLE to PC since it offers me the possibility to TAILOR my gaming experience completely with the help of modding.
Basicly what i am saying is that i'm just thankful at this stage FIFA even offers a 'offline' mode at all, because based on everything known and if i look at what other Football games in development is offering i realize that everything points to 'OFFLINE' not being a priority what so ever.
What kind of logic when the opposing Attacking midfielders or even wing back run into your own box to attack, while your own AI defensive midfield stay on the edge of the box to WATCH the game ?
I had a game that two of my defenders got Red (sent off), it left only 2 defenders to defend 5 attackers (striker and attacking midfielders of my opponent in online season), while all the rest of my players (CDM, Midfielders) all stay outside of the box, stand and watch my team being tortured by 5 opposing attackers.
EA developer/designer want to see BIG scores in every game, 9 goals or double digit goals between 2 teams in 90 minutes, without taking into account the logic and real match game-play.
That's why the game is frustrating for many.
I am fine and calm to accept the result of the match, either lose or win, but I simply want the game-play to design in a more realistic, authentic, and fair for everyone who engages in football and plays this game.
Come on, let's make some senses to encourage fair game-play
Or in this instance Career Mode & UT..
Please say it again. I can't understand how AI defense can get all 11 of their players behind the ball when necessary and press all game! How! Meanwhile, I must go to sliders and ❤️❤️❤️❤️ around to try and make things a bit better. Problem is, there is ALWAYS a gameplay issue with this crap. My players dumb down when in position to score. Slow down literally. Playing bottom table teams and they are able to get near my box anytime they attack. I mean, they attack so direct while my players defensively do everything the can to have open GAPS for them to run through..
What do you mean how?