FIFA 23 Star Heads Thread

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TeamExtreme17
5533 posts Big Money Move
edited August 2022
To carry on from @RollsReus great work the previous years.. For the 11th year running, the Star Head Thread returns for this years edition of FIFA 23. This thread is consistently the biggest and most popular thread on this entire official Fifa forum, having attained more than 1.8Million views for the FIFA 19 thread. This, combined with an ever increasing hunger from fans around this world, shows how highly fans of FIFA value the topic of player faces within the game.

Since 2011, the Star Heads Thread has been the mecca for news on player faces and a place for aesthetic fans to come and discuss all things face-like. Throughout the years, we have had a community of passionate fans. Some who have been members for years and others who are new to the thread. We are some of the most committed fans who play the game, but don't mistake our tenacity, it's purely a mutual love of the game and a desire for our voices to be heard. Our members are constantly looking for squeaks and leaks for any potential news from official teams and players, via their social media channels.

Naturally we will have new users coming into this thread for the first time, who are very welcome to become part of the discussion. To you, we say that we are well aware that there's on-going problems with FIFA, including bugs etc, and that graphics can't be the main focus on the development team, but there is enough threads for these situations and we ask you to please make separate threads for your non-face related issues. This thread is committed to just one side of the title, something that EA has their own team for, so we ask that you respect our place and don't post for arguments sake. We respect your opinion but this isn't the place for it.

If anyone is interested in Star Head suggestions for their Career Mode saves @Reus made a great thread which you can find here

Lastly, there are rules that are present in this thread that you can find below and will need to abide too:


* This thread is for player face discussion only, for discussion of everything else to do with FIFA 21 please use other more appropriate threads.

* Please use the Off-Topic section to discuss PES. A small amount of PES face discussion is allowed in here but only for comparison purposes. Anything else/excessive PES face discussion will be removed.

* We understand graphics aren't everyone's cup of tea. Please be aware that we also want gameplay updates and fixes but this thread is solely just for Star Heads. EA have numerous departments working on different aspects of the game. There are gameplay-specific threads for you to air your thoughts.

* Please do not quote posts that include numerous pictures etc, nor create quote chains. Please use the Spoiler link when posting posts that contain 2+ items.

[ spoiler ] URL HERE [ / spoiler ]

WITHOUT THE GAPS

* Please be respectful of everyone's opinion. Arguing for the sake of arguing will get us nowhere.

With all that being said, don't be afraid to join in with discussion. Here's to hopefully a great year!

@EA_Rtas @EA_Lanna @EA_Roger @EA_DarDar @EA_GZaro @EA_Joz @EA_Cian @EA_Cade @EA_Aidan @EA_Bogdan @EA_Darko @EA_rephii
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  • TeamExtreme17
    5533 posts Big Money Move
    edited October 2022
    For those of you who are not familiar with what a Star Head is, it occurs when a team is dispatched by EA to football clubs' training facilities where they sit the squad down in their makeshift studio to take a number of photos in which, over time, are applied to a players' in-game face. The results are quite outstanding.

    There are 3 different types of faces in FIFA. They are the following:


    Star Head

    When a player receives the scanned treatment mentioned above:

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    Custom

    When the player in-game is designed by the graphics team without the aide of a photoshoot:

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    Generic

    When a player has a in-game face that is modelled on them without going into great detail:

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    A resident of this thread, @VapexKarma, has a popular YouTube channel that he constantly posts top quality videos on. These videos showcase many different visuals that are present in FIFA, such as player faces and face comparisons from PES, as well as players who are in need of an updated face on FIFA. His channel has only continued to increase over the past year as he fights the good fight for our struggles! You can find his channel here

    EA, can you please add all the missing scans into the game! There have been numerous videos showing players that you have scanned / re-scanned (Defoe etc) that you still haven't added to the game!? Please add them!

    Please see @RichardEleven's great spreadsheets for your best resource of missing / removed Star Heads:

    BETA Spreadsheets: here

    Star Head Spreadsheets: here

    Title Update Spreadsheets: here


    Can i also please make a special mention to the Devs, that it's absolutely imperative that you find a way for new Star Heads that are added via a Title Update (followed by a further Squad Update) to work in existing Career Mode saves! As it is very frustrating having to start a new Career Mode every time you release a new Title / Squad Update!
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  • TeamExtreme17
    5533 posts Big Money Move
    edited January 20
    Custom Face Requests: (Essential now Fifa has the UEFA license to make the Champions League & Europa League more authentic)


    Gavi
    Musiala
    Saliba
    B. White
    Osimhen (FO4)
    G. Ramos
    E. Fernandez
    Kvaratskhelia
    C. Romero
    Malacia
    Kounde
    D. Carlos
    Elanga
    Badiashile
    Ocampos
    Suso
    Neres
    Zielinski
    Elanga
    Bentancur
    Milenkovic
    T. Almada

    Update Requests: (Whether it just be an updated hairstyle, beard, or a completely new scan)

    Shaw
    Pique
    R. Neves
    Lenglet
    J. Boateng
    Defoe
    Rose
    Sturridge
    Walcott
    De Rossi
    Dolberg

    Team Scan Requests:

    Lille
    Napoli
    Roma
    Atalanta
    Sporting Lisbon
    Monaco
    Anderlecht
    Feyenoord
    Galatasaray
    Fenerbahçe
    Beşiktaş
    National Team scans! (Which would cover most of the top rated players in-game from being left Generic! Especially if they play for a team who can't be scanned due to licensing issues.. Is there is a way to scan ALL National teams at World Cup 2022 Qatar? If so, please look into doing this!

    DLC Requests

    DLC is highly requested in FIFA 23!! Can you please release regular new/updated custom faces in every Title Update? Just like PES do in their Data Packs.. Even if it's just a hairstyle or beard update for an already existing Star Head? For example, you added a Star Head for Haaland in FIFA 22 but he changed his hairstyle pretty much immediately after release and you didn't update him all year long, so we had to play with an outdated Haaland for the whole of FIFA 22's lifespan! This is unacceptable in the year 2022 with the resources you have compared to Konami..

    Also, on 23.4.2019, we received new updated Bayern Munich scans in FIFA 19 and the vast difference from their old scan to their new one is quite evident, especially due to the improvement in graphics on new consoles, and why it is imperative you update the afore mentioned players who are in dire need of new / updated scans! Here is proof of why on PS5 / Xbox One X we need updated scans:


    FIFA 23

    Rumours:

    Serie A 16/20 treatment
    Women's scans
    World Cup DLC (Customs)
    Premier League re-scan
    La Liga re-scan
    Bundesliga re-scan
    Ajax re-scan
    Benfica re-scan
    Porto re-scan
    Boca Juniors scan
    Celtic scan
    Rangers scan

    * EA has also hired more scanning rigs which should increase the number of players / teams they are able to scan and implement going forward in future Fifa games, once Covid restrictions are lifted..

    Past FIFA Games

    FIFA 22

    Rumours:

    Full Ligue 1 treatment
    Premier League re-scan
    La Liga re-scan
    Bundesliga re-scan
    AC Milan
    Inter Milan
    Boca Juniors
    Fifa Online 4 Faces

    FIFA 21

    Premier League re-scan (Due to the pandemic not all teams were able to be visited)
    Benfica
    Porto
    PSV
    Lyon (re-scan)
    Marseille (re-scan)
    Tigres


    FIFA 20

    Full Bundesliga Treatment
    Premier League re-scan
    La Liga re-scan
    Juventus
    Ajax
    Roma
    PSG
    Independiente
    Racing Club
    Millionarios
    Universidad Catolica


    FIFA 19

    Premier League (re-scan)
    La Liga scan
    Various MLS players
    Various Saudi League players
    Various Chinese Super League players
    PSG (re-scan)
    RB Leipzig
    Cardiff City
    Fulham
    Wolves


    FIFA 18

    2016/2017 Premier League (re-scan)
    Newcastle (re-scan)
    Brighton and Hove Albion
    Huddersfield
    Toronto
    Various MLS players
    Various J-League players

    FIFA 17

    Bayern Munchen
    Inter Milan
    2015/2016 Premier League (re-scan)
    Middlesbrough
    Burnley (re-scan)
    Hull (re-scan)
    Juventus (re-scan)
    Additions to the Women's roster

    FIFA 16

    2014/2015 Barclays Premier League (re-scan)
    Bournemouth
    Watford
    Norwich
    Real Madrid
    FC Barcelona (re-scan)
    Entire Women's Roster
    Paris Saint Germain (re-scan)
    Olympique de Marseille (re-scan)
    Olympique Lyonnais (re-scan)
    Borussia Mönchengladbach

    FIFA 15

    2013/2014 Barclays Premier League (minus Fulham and Cardiff City)
    Leicester City
    Burnley
    QPR

    2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil

    USA National Team

    FIFA 14

    Lille OSC
    Olympique de Marseille (re-scan)
    Olympique Lyonnais (re-scan)
    Tottenham Hotspur
    Paris Saint Germain (re-scan)
    Everton
    Newcastle (re-scan)
    Borussia Dortmund
    Atletico Madrid
    FC Barcelona
    Liverpool
    Aston Villa (re-scan)
    AC Milan (re-scan)
    Arsenal (re-scan)
    Chelsea (re-scan)
    German National Team (re-scan)
    Valencia (re-scan)

    FIFA 13

    Hamburg
    Valencia
    Germany National Team (re-scan)
    Manchester City (re-scan)
    Chelsea (rescan)
    Paris Saint Germain (re-scan)

    FIFA 12

    Aston Villa
    Newcastle United
    Manchester City
    AC Milan
    Germany National Team
    Olympique de Marseille
    Paris Saint Germain
    Vancouver Whitecaps

    FIFA 11

    Juventus
    Arsenal
    Chelsea
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Bordeaux

    The FIFA Dev Team may also find the following Star Heads Thread on Reddit of use: Link
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  • TeamExtreme17
    5533 posts Big Money Move
    edited February 2022
    May I also make a special mention of the need to allow us to edit generic faces in Edit Real Player, which would require the "Head" section that you use in Create Player to be unlocked so it can be used in Edit Real Player too, so we can edit poor generic faces to make them look more like the real player, currently we have to create a completely new player because we can't edit the face of the real player! The results are the following: (These could be shared with the community if you bring back Creation Centre)



    We also need a lot more realistic hairstyles / beards adding to Create / Edit Real Player mode, including applying the new hair technology to all generic hairstyles!

    P.S. Can you please add all the hairstyles, beards, tattoos etc from The Journey & VOLTA in to Create / Edit Real Player!!

    Edit: Can i please also bring to your attention the great work @aliheidari2520 does on creating player likenesses from the in-game tools you provide in Fifa. He shouldn't need to create Icons as they are already in Ultimate Team and there should be an option to use them in Career Mode! But he could maybe assist you in creating better player likenesses for players who have generic faces that you can't scan or give custom faces too? Find his work here
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  • Futbol22
    2055 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited February 21
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  • Futbol22
    2055 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited October 2022
    Felix Agu

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    Romano Schmid
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    Michael Zetterer
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    Daniel Klein

    FC Augsburg capture session

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  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero
    If anything there will be a lot of complaining from all of us to EA😂. Seriously hopefully we get more faces than this yr which has been very poor. Hopefully EA are being allowed to scan clubs at the min.They surely can be allowed scan in England now with the county opening up again from lockdown
  • saturator
    131 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    I want Greenwood so far!
  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero
    saturator wrote: »
    I want Greenwood so far!

    I m sure everyone wants Greenwood but there are way more players needing faces too
  • TeamExtreme17
    5533 posts Big Money Move
    edited April 2021
    If anything there will be a lot of complaining from all of us to EA😂. Seriously hopefully we get more faces than this yr which has been very poor. Hopefully EA are being allowed to scan clubs at the min.They surely can be allowed scan in England now with the county opening up again from lockdown

    Yeah i just think alot of scans this year will come post-launch. But those players EA can't get round to scanning NEED custom faces!! And alot of players still need hairstyle / beard updates even if they can't be scanned.. Leaving them generic / outdated is totally unacceptable!!

    First "proper" full game on Next-Gen too. So big expectations!! Time to get rid of all the PS2/PS3 assets and bring Fifa to the year 2021!!
  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero
    If anything there will be a lot of complaining from all of us to EA😂. Seriously hopefully we get more faces than this yr which has been very poor. Hopefully EA are being allowed to scan clubs at the min.They surely can be allowed scan in England now with the county opening up again from lockdown

    Yeah i just think alot of scans this year will come post-launch. But those players EA can't get round to scanning NEED custom faces!! And alot of players still need hairstyle / beard updates even if they can't be scanned..

    First "proper" full game on Next-Gen too. So big expectations.. Time to get rid of all the PS2/PS3 assets and bring Fifa to the year 2021!!

    Does anyone know how many faces were added at launch and post launch in Fifa 20 and Fifa 21 seems to be way more in Fifa 20
  • tommy_p_5
    995 posts Semi-Pro
    If anything there will be a lot of complaining from all of us to EA😂. Seriously hopefully we get more faces than this yr which has been very poor. Hopefully EA are being allowed to scan clubs at the min.They surely can be allowed scan in England now with the county opening up again from lockdown

    Yeah i just think alot of scans this year will come post-launch. But those players EA can't get round to scanning NEED custom faces!! And alot of players still need hairstyle / beard updates even if they can't be scanned..

    First "proper" full game on Next-Gen too. So big expectations.. Time to get rid of all the PS2/PS3 assets and bring Fifa to the year 2021!!

    Does anyone know how many faces were added at launch and post launch in Fifa 20 and Fifa 21 seems to be way more in Fifa 20

    I wrote the below in January on the 21 thread - looking at number of faces added/removed (obviously the ones for this year won't be quite up to date anymore - Tigres etc). Also, I don't think the below accounted for updated faces:
    I know COVID is a huge factor, but EA have been way below par this year in terms of faces (both adding and removing). I've had a quick look at the past 7 games, I wanted to see how this year compared to previous editions; my numbers might not be 100% accurate, but they won't be far off (I don't think I included all players that have since retired):

    Fifa 15: Added 337, Removed 03, Difference: +334
    Fifa 16: Added 276, Removed 00, Difference: +276
    Fifa 17: Added 189, Removed 00, Difference: +189
    Fifa 18: Added 318, Removed 00, Difference: +318
    Fifa 19: Added 474, Removed 25, Difference: +449
    Fifa 20: Added 734, Removed 30, Difference: +704
    Fifa 21: Added 390, Removed 86, Difference: +304

    Average: Added 388, Removed 21, Difference: +368

    My counts for at/post launch (including updated players) are as follows:

    Fifa 19
    At launch - 406
    Post launch - 80

    Fifa 20
    At launch - 503
    Post launch - 242

    Fifa 21
    At launch - 288
    Post launch - 127

    I think these are fairly accurate - I think the reason the numbers don't add up compared to my original list is because the second list includes updated players, and the first only accounted for brand new (previously generic) ones.
  • TeamExtreme17
    5533 posts Big Money Move
    edited April 2021
    Quite strange though, Fifa 20 had the highest amount of Star Heads ever added, so this shows what they're capable of and also the direction we were going regarding the number we could expect every Fifa, and also that Covid really hampered things for Fifa 21 due to only getting 50% the amount than the previous year. But Fifa 21 having the highest number of Star Heads removed in one year, since Star Heads existed, is absolutely unacceptable!! Im still baffled as to what the reasons are for this!?

    Once things go back to normal, with EA acquiring more scanning rigs, hopefully we surpass the 734 number from Fifa 20. We might get 1000+ each year! But they NEED to bring back all the removed faces AND all the missing scans too!! This year was the perfect chance to do this, with only getting 390 new scans 🤦🏻‍♂️
  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero
    tommy_p_5 wrote: »
    If anything there will be a lot of complaining from all of us to EA😂. Seriously hopefully we get more faces than this yr which has been very poor. Hopefully EA are being allowed to scan clubs at the min.They surely can be allowed scan in England now with the county opening up again from lockdown

    Yeah i just think alot of scans this year will come post-launch. But those players EA can't get round to scanning NEED custom faces!! And alot of players still need hairstyle / beard updates even if they can't be scanned..

    First "proper" full game on Next-Gen too. So big expectations.. Time to get rid of all the PS2/PS3 assets and bring Fifa to the year 2021!!

    Does anyone know how many faces were added at launch and post launch in Fifa 20 and Fifa 21 seems to be way more in Fifa 20

    I wrote the below in January on the 21 thread - looking at number of faces added/removed (obviously the ones for this year won't be quite up to date anymore - Tigres etc). Also, I don't think the below accounted for updated faces:
    I know COVID is a huge factor, but EA have been way below par this year in terms of faces (both adding and removing). I've had a quick look at the past 7 games, I wanted to see how this year compared to previous editions; my numbers might not be 100% accurate, but they won't be far off (I don't think I included all players that have since retired):

    Fifa 15: Added 337, Removed 03, Difference: +334
    Fifa 16: Added 276, Removed 00, Difference: +276
    Fifa 17: Added 189, Removed 00, Difference: +189
    Fifa 18: Added 318, Removed 00, Difference: +318
    Fifa 19: Added 474, Removed 25, Difference: +449
    Fifa 20: Added 734, Removed 30, Difference: +704
    Fifa 21: Added 390, Removed 86, Difference: +304

    Average: Added 388, Removed 21, Difference: +368

    My counts for at/post launch (including updated players) are as follows:

    Fifa 19
    At launch - 406
    Post launch - 80

    Fifa 20
    At launch - 503
    Post launch - 242

    Fifa 21
    At launch - 288
    Post launch - 127

    I think these are fairly accurate - I think the reason the numbers don't add up compared to my original list is because the second list includes updated players, and the first only accounted for brand new (previously generic) ones.

    I didn’t think Fifa 19 and Fifa 20 at launch were that high were they
  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero
    https://youtu.be/LzPWtrdEcxs

    He had 370 at launch for Fifa 19 so u must be right mate sorry
  • Steveb86
    494 posts Sunday League Hero
    I heard ea will scan some teams of the Premiere League soon. But I don't know we will se some videos of this teams.
  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero
    Steveb86 wrote: »
    I heard ea will scan some teams of the Premiere League soon. But I don't know we will se some videos of this teams.

    Where did u hear that
  • Steveb86
    494 posts Sunday League Hero
    Lucas pezzatti. His Infos are mostly true.
  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero
    Steveb86 wrote: »
    Lucas pezzatti. His Infos are mostly true.

    Thought that guy was gone
  • Steveb86
    494 posts Sunday League Hero
    No he has good Infos in the last years. In my opinion, he had also confirmed last year that Porto and benfica, as well as Lyon and Marseille were scanned
  • TeamExtreme17
    5533 posts Big Money Move
    edited April 2021
    I think it's a given as soon as allowed then EA will scan the PL, as that's their main, biggest license. So it's more of a spoiler than a prediction. Same for La Liga & Bundesliga too, which will follow when allowed. We can expect Inter & Milan too. But i still think most of them won't be added until after release. So unless new Star Heads work with existing Career Mode saves, we will be in for a very frustrating year again, just like Fifa 20 and Fifa 21. I still don't think there will be any point buying the game, if you play Career Mode, until February once the January transfers have been applied, 90% of Star Heads have been added and hopefully most of the bugs have been addressed, as Fifa usually needs 15+ Title Updates as EA dont listen to Beta feedback regarding bugs..
  • Steveb86
    494 posts Sunday League Hero
    Yes, I also think that most of the starheads will be submitted in different patches. I assume that ea will scan the laliga and the Bundesliga by summer at the latest. As far as the Premier League is concerned, I assume that the ea is already scanning or in the next few weeks. Despite extensive easing, the number of cases for Covid has eased.
  • JimCh07
    236 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Here's to another year of mostly dissapointment lads
  • thomasjford
    15 posts Last Pick at the Park
    I don't know we even need scans do we, particularly? I mean, they are great, but Konami only scan their (fairly minimal) partner clubs. All the other faces they do in DLC are custom faces by artists, and they look amazing. Even the Nainggolan above is a custom and it looks fine. Why can't they just do what Konami do and shovel out loads of custom faces? As long as the player looks like he is supposed to, I can live without the ultra detail of scanning etc. I'd rather 1,000 custom faces than 200 scanned faces.
  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero
    I don't know we even need scans do we, particularly? I mean, they are great, but Konami only scan their (fairly minimal) partner clubs. All the other faces they do in DLC are custom faces by artists, and they look amazing. Even the Nainggolan above is a custom and it looks fine. Why can't they just do what Konami do and shovel out loads of custom faces? As long as the player looks like he is supposed to, I can live without the ultra detail of scanning etc. I'd rather 1,000 custom faces than 200 scanned faces.

    I d be the opposite but sure everyone is different
  • Quiffed
    638 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Would be nice if this was faces but most likely some FUT or e-sport thing
  • HalaMadrid07
    22 posts Last Pick at the Park
    One thing I don’t understand is why EA can’t do full body scans which would capture player tattoos. It makes zero sense that PES does this every year with their partnered clubs and EA for some reason does not. It would really enhance the realism & authenticity of player scans IMO. The fact they capture neck tattoos pretty frequently during scans makes this all the more annoying as well.
  • Quiffed
    638 posts An Exciting Prospect
    One thing I don’t understand is why EA can’t do full body scans which would capture player tattoos. It makes zero sense that PES does this every year with their partnered clubs and EA for some reason does not. It would really enhance the realism & authenticity of player scans IMO. The fact they capture neck tattoos pretty frequently during scans makes this all the more annoying as well.

    If it takes 3 years to get faces into a game, players will be retired by the time they figure out how to get full bodies into it
  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero


    Napoli won’t be getting scanned anytime soon anyway
  • Quiffed
    638 posts An Exciting Prospect
    edited April 2021
    Might see EA scamper to get faces before 2023, and before their name changes too to whatever
  • mickjacobjr
    1743 posts Play-Off Hero
    Quiffed wrote: »
    Might see EA scamper to get faces before 2023, and before their name changes too to whatever

    Maybe but I doubt it as Napoli never a partner
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