Next gen Gameplay. Wow.... edit -(i've gone back to old gen version)edit2-(Ive gone back to new gen)

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  • Wurrsmycash
    1555 posts Play-Off Hero
    Okocha10 wrote: »
    AI blocks have been the worse than any other Fifa this year even still with the patch on the previous gen they still need to nerf them

    Complete waste of time shooting from most angles that aren't the 'sweet spots' shame to see little to no screamers these days
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    TDOF wrote: »
    Also, your team matters A LOT A LOT A LOT MORE on next gen version.

    I just bought my team back earlier today when players were too low, and wow.... going from Ousmane and Saint to Neymar and Mbappe, is ridiculous. The difference between them on next gen is much more noticeable than it is on prev gen

    Agree. My D1 team in current gen had Hernandez Alaba and Kimpembe in defense and Mahrez with Son and Pogba etc Im just getting ripped apart by Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe Neymar and a host of icons every game on next gen now...

    Yeah dribbling with them is insane... trying to keep up with what they do is very tough.
  • TitanX
    461 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Anyone found a fix for the stuttering during tackles and saves etc?
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    TitanX wrote: »
    Anyone found a fix for the stuttering during tackles and saves etc?

    I think that's just a game issue...
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    Alright..... i've gone back again 😂
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    I think the game is just much more rewarding honestly.... The ai blocks suck.... but im just re-adjusting myself back to what i did pre-patch.... i still hope they fix it soon.

    But the game is just too smooth.... i love being able to have control when dribbling and not feeling like im about to lose the ball.
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  • TDOF
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    tommyboyo wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    I think the game is just much more rewarding honestly.... The ai blocks suck.... but im just re-adjusting myself back to what i did pre-patch.... i still hope they fix it soon.

    But the game is just too smooth.... i love being able to have control when dribbling and not feeling like im about to lose the ball.

    The extra touches the players take makes dribbling so much more satisfying, even the basic left stick dribble, which is good.

    Tackling also far less of a lottery.

    Yup... exactly that. I just feel its much more rewarding.

    Only things i hate

    -AI blocks
    - Team press

    (Both should be patched hopefully soon)

    and the frames dropping when there's a shot or tackle in the box sometimes.
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  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    tommyboyo wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    tommyboyo wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    I think the game is just much more rewarding honestly.... The ai blocks suck.... but im just re-adjusting myself back to what i did pre-patch.... i still hope they fix it soon.

    But the game is just too smooth.... i love being able to have control when dribbling and not feeling like im about to lose the ball.

    The extra touches the players take makes dribbling so much more satisfying, even the basic left stick dribble, which is good.

    Tackling also far less of a lottery.

    Yup... exactly that. I just feel its much more rewarding.

    Only things i hate

    -AI blocks
    - Team press

    (Both should be patched hopefully soon)

    and the frames dropping when there's a shot or tackle in the box sometimes.

    Yeah, they have a good platform to build on here.

    Feels a bit like deja vu saying that though!!

    100% 😂

    Honestly though, even the previous gen version isn't too bad after this latest patch with the blocks being not as OP.

    The tackling is still shocking though... on next gen i've yet to have a noticeable bounce back after a good tackle.

    Purely because of the new animations which just let your players take extra touches to control the ball closer to their feet and keep the ball and your inputs are instantaneous.
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    Also i have to say... Joe Gomez just isn't that guy on next gen.....

    He just can't keep up with the dribbling of neymar's and mbappe's..... he's too sluggish on this version.
  • TDOF wrote: »
    Also i have to say... Joe Gomez just isn't that guy on next gen.....

    He just can't keep up with the dribbling of neymar's and mbappe's..... he's too sluggish on this version.

    He ain't that guy on old gen either lol.

    Always good for a mistake hence why Varane-IF Walker is the defense of choice in tourneys with restrictions (Desailly/Alberto-Walker in tourneys without).
  • Nodge86
    5676 posts Big Money Move
    TDOF wrote: »
    Also i have to say... Joe Gomez just isn't that guy on next gen.....

    He just can't keep up with the dribbling of neymar's and mbappe's..... he's too sluggish on this version.

    This is a take too far. Mbappe and Neymar are just ahead of everyone else. JG is about as close as you can get to containing them.
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    Nodge86 wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    Also i have to say... Joe Gomez just isn't that guy on next gen.....

    He just can't keep up with the dribbling of neymar's and mbappe's..... he's too sluggish on this version.

    This is a take too far. Mbappe and Neymar are just ahead of everyone else. JG is about as close as you can get to containing them.

    Inform Walker.
  • Nodge86
    5676 posts Big Money Move
    TDOF wrote: »
    Nodge86 wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    Also i have to say... Joe Gomez just isn't that guy on next gen.....

    He just can't keep up with the dribbling of neymar's and mbappe's..... he's too sluggish on this version.

    This is a take too far. Mbappe and Neymar are just ahead of everyone else. JG is about as close as you can get to containing them.

    Inform Walker.

    Another good choice. But he’s currently RB for me.
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    Nodge86 wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    Nodge86 wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    Also i have to say... Joe Gomez just isn't that guy on next gen.....

    He just can't keep up with the dribbling of neymar's and mbappe's..... he's too sluggish on this version.

    This is a take too far. Mbappe and Neymar are just ahead of everyone else. JG is about as close as you can get to containing them.

    Inform Walker.

    Another good choice. But he’s currently RB for me.

    I'm hoping one off; baby rio, CB carlos alberto, baby desailly will be in the first icon swaps.
  • Nodge86
    5676 posts Big Money Move
    TDOF wrote: »
    Nodge86 wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    Nodge86 wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    Also i have to say... Joe Gomez just isn't that guy on next gen.....

    He just can't keep up with the dribbling of neymar's and mbappe's..... he's too sluggish on this version.

    This is a take too far. Mbappe and Neymar are just ahead of everyone else. JG is about as close as you can get to containing them.

    Inform Walker.

    Another good choice. But he’s currently RB for me.

    I'm hoping one off; baby rio, CB carlos alberto, baby desailly will be in the first icon swaps.

    Should have a decent enough chance for a good cb. Might be a high option though.
  • Queens11
    3090 posts National Call-Up
    @TDOF how do u change back to old gen its saying as I'm on new gen I can't play other version

    Honestly man I dont know were your getting the wow in your title this is not fit for release it seems every problem last 2 years has been rolled into this version
    unlimited skill move chains with no adverse effects, unlimited high press ,rng is high ,delay delay delay( 8ms ping) lol ,passes going every were
    Jesus man eading your posts we must be playing 2 different games
    I can honestly say I've never had a worse footballing experience and ive been playing fifa from it first ever came out

  • Jsim86
    883 posts Semi-Pro
    I have to say new gen is superior in every way, so smooth with no in put delay but I have heard bad things about match making in Fut champs, that essentially it's far harder than ps4
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    edited December 2020
    Press options on the game and game version, then you can change which one you want.

    I personally don't mind skill chaining, that's just my opinion though, if someone is playing a deep line skilling is a good counter.

    The other things though;

    First off high press-

    Was it a HUGE problem in the old gen? Of course thats why they patched it.

    Is it a problem now in new gen? Yes... but for me personally because dribbling is so responsive i am able to take my time and make it almost useless....

    Here's a video i just had from the 85minute onwards of me holding a 1 goal lead while my opponent is on team press just so you believe me and don't think im saying this just to make EA sound good for whatever reason lol

    https://streamable.com/5o101t

    Some key moments, with promes for example i was easily able to dribble myself out. Was my opponent the best player? Not really.... but doesn't matter who's hand team press is on for it to be what it is.

    And as i said, i have absolutely no idea how people think this game is unresponsive for them.... i believe you 100% don't get me wrong. but for me this is one of the most responsive games ive ever played.

    Also im not saying this because im winning. I'm actually having the worst WL of my entire fifa career 😂
    The matchmaking has been mad.....

    @Queens11

    Also blocking is ridiculous.....hope they patch it soon.
  • Professor
    4385 posts National Call-Up
    Been playing WL on the next gen. It does seem different I'm just not sure what it it. The graphics I'm liking quite a bit.

    The gameplay seems slower but smooth at the same time. The competition seems tough so far. I'm 6-0 currently and typically the first 10 games are a breeze but these have all been very competitive. Even some cheap Seria A team I played took me to extra time.
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    edited December 2020
    Professor wrote: »
    Been playing WL on the next gen. It does seem different I'm just not sure what it it. The graphics I'm liking quite a bit.

    The gameplay seems slower but smooth at the same time. The competition seems tough so far. I'm 6-0 currently and typically the first 10 games are a breeze but these have all been very competitive. Even some cheap Seria A team I played took me to extra time.

    I think next week i'll be playing the first 10 on previous gen and the rest on new gen.

    I normally don't take my first loss till like 15th/16th game, i started 7-4 this week and now im fighting for gold 1 for the first time ever 😂

    But i 100% agree, the game overall is slower, but it's smoother and more responsive. I wish it was a bit faster but im not mad.....

    I'd rather have a smooth responsive game than have it be fast and unresponsive. @Professor
  • joehuk
    8294 posts League Winner
    Really disappointed EA won't update pc with next gen improvements.

    While gameplay is similar I still love the visuals I'm seeing on series X and ps5.

    Yes some.of the stuff I don't care for but the hair, grass texture, faces look brilliant.

    But oh well I'll stick to 2k 144fps "old gen" for now.

    Next year will see big strides just hope they sort connectivity.

  • Queens11
    3090 posts National Call-Up
    TDOF wrote: »
    Press options on the game and game version, then you can change which one you want.

    I personally don't mind skill chaining, that's just my opinion though, if someone is playing a deep line skilling is a good counter.

    The other things though;

    First off high press-

    Was it a HUGE problem in the old gen? Of course thats why they patched it.

    Is it a problem now in new gen? Yes... but for me personally because dribbling is so responsive i am able to take my time and make it almost useless....

    Here's a video i just had from the 85minute onwards of me holding a 1 goal lead while my opponent is on team press just so you believe me and don't think im saying this just to make EA sound good for whatever reason lol

    https://streamable.com/5o101t

    Some key moments, with promes for example i was easily able to dribble myself out. Was my opponent the best player? Not really.... but doesn't matter who's hand team press is on for it to be what it is.

    And as i said, i have absolutely no idea how people think this game is unresponsive for them.... i believe you 100% don't get me wrong. but for me this is one of the most responsive games ive ever played.

    Also im not saying this because im winning. I'm actually having the worst WL of my entire fifa career 😂
    The matchmaking has been mad.....

    @Queens11

    Also blocking is ridiculous.....hope they patch it soon.

    They shouldn't have rushed it out until it was ready looks like we back to the beta version and is gonna need 20 patches to fix the multitude of problems
    I don't understand whybthey patch something on old gen then release the new one with all the exact same issues as the old one started with

    I figured it out @TDOF I just wasn't logged out of ut on new gen lol I was having a moment of rage and wasn't thinking straight ffs
    Its your fault im even playing this weekend i was wl free for weeks and loving it until i seen this post lol
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    Queens11 wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    Press options on the game and game version, then you can change which one you want.

    I personally don't mind skill chaining, that's just my opinion though, if someone is playing a deep line skilling is a good counter.

    The other things though;

    First off high press-

    Was it a HUGE problem in the old gen? Of course thats why they patched it.

    Is it a problem now in new gen? Yes... but for me personally because dribbling is so responsive i am able to take my time and make it almost useless....

    Here's a video i just had from the 85minute onwards of me holding a 1 goal lead while my opponent is on team press just so you believe me and don't think im saying this just to make EA sound good for whatever reason lol

    https://streamable.com/5o101t

    Some key moments, with promes for example i was easily able to dribble myself out. Was my opponent the best player? Not really.... but doesn't matter who's hand team press is on for it to be what it is.

    And as i said, i have absolutely no idea how people think this game is unresponsive for them.... i believe you 100% don't get me wrong. but for me this is one of the most responsive games ive ever played.

    Also im not saying this because im winning. I'm actually having the worst WL of my entire fifa career 😂
    The matchmaking has been mad.....

    @Queens11

    Also blocking is ridiculous.....hope they patch it soon.

    They shouldn't have rushed it out until it was ready looks like we back to the beta version and is gonna need 20 patches to fix the multitude of problems
    I don't understand whybthey patch something on old gen then release the new one with all the exact same issues as the old one started with

    I figured it out @TDOF I just wasn't logged out of ut on new gen lol I was having a moment of rage and wasn't thinking straight ffs
    Its your fault im even playing this weekend i was wl free for weeks and loving it until i seen this post lol

    Lol what can i say 🤷🏻‍♂️ It’s been good for me, obviously issues still exist, its not perfect.

    But just the new animations themselves make me happy, i made a thread on fifa 20 talking about animations being the main problem about fifa you can look back at my profile if you want to read that.

    And sure enough almost everything i said in there has became reality with new gen.
  • vjake
    1060 posts Professional
    Switched back to old gen version. Game is more responsive on new gen HOWEVER like @TDOF mentioned, high press and AI blocks are just too much. I lost 2 WL in a row, something that never happens early on. It's mainly because the pitch is grey for me and flickers red, strains your eyes and puts you off lol. Went old gen and started winning again, definitely not as responsive whatsoever but it's playable at least.

    I'm amazed they delayed the new gen version and it still feels like a rush job, shocking from EA tbh. I'd of rather them delayed until January or something. It's a mess.
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    vjake wrote: »
    Switched back to old gen version. Game is more responsive on new gen HOWEVER like @TDOF mentioned, high press and AI blocks are just too much. I lost 2 WL in a row, something that never happens early on. It's mainly because the pitch is grey for me and flickers red, strains your eyes and puts you off lol. Went old gen and started winning again, definitely not as responsive whatsoever but it's playable at least.

    I'm amazed they delayed the new gen version and it still feels like a rush job, shocking from EA tbh. I'd of rather them delayed until January or something. It's a mess.

    Yeah i hope this patch comes soon... it's the only thing which ruins it a lot.
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    Also it's the little things, for example because of the new animations i don't think something like this would of been possible on old gen.

    https://streamable.com/b5jz6c

    Look at the transition from touch out, open up the body to the shot.

    It's way more fluid than on old gen.
  • vjake
    1060 posts Professional
    TDOF wrote: »
    Also it's the little things, for example because of the new animations i don't think something like this would of been possible on old gen.

    https://streamable.com/b5jz6c

    Look at the transition from touch out, open up the body to the shot.

    It's way more fluid than on old gen.

    Yeah you're right, the difference in gameplay is actually crazy. I just played a few on the old gen and it's soooo delayed compared to the new gen version. Feels more realistic as well. The pitch flickering I'll just have to get use to until they fix it.
  • TDOF wrote: »
    Also it's the little things, for example because of the new animations i don't think something like this would of been possible on old gen.

    https://streamable.com/b5jz6c

    Look at the transition from touch out, open up the body to the shot.

    It's way more fluid than on old gen.

    At this point you have to be trolling.

    That's such a standard animation on old gen, next gen and god knows what gen. Probably existed in fifa 12 on ps3 already :joy:
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