Next gen Gameplay. Wow.... edit -(i've gone back to old gen version)edit2-(Ive gone back to new gen)

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  • Skorpio_King
    13215 posts Has That Special Something
    Im going back to old gen. I really hate the sluggish and slow gameplay on next gen. Graphics are fire but i rather have good gameplay
  • SebastienEngelhart
    590 posts An Exciting Prospect
    TDOF wrote: »
    Just want to make a thread just purely on gameplay.

    If you want a more general thread, (camera, haptics...etc) here; https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/579304/next-gen-update-now-available/p1

    My Opinions;

    So far played 5 games all in rivals at ~2200 rivals

    First off im yet to play an opponent at my level, i keep getting matched against people at 1800, obviously not that many people are on.

    The actual gameplay

    Wow.

    The difference is night and day... Just feels a lot smoother and responsive on the ball, the extra animations of players controlling the ball instead of the ball just bouncing is FANTASTIC.

    The whole game speed feels slower, which isn't a terrible thing... you feel more in control on the ball if that makes sense.

    Tackles.... i've yet to have a single bounce back. Every good tackle i made i got the ball.

    Dribbling doesn't feel so clunky.

    I have yet to see any crazy ice skating.

    So far im actually shocked. I can't believe how much better this game is....

    The bad

    I really hope this isn't just because not a lot of people are on the servers.

    Once a lot of people get it and servers start overloading on next gen are we just going to go back to what we had?

    Obviously no one knows till it happens.

    But as i said. Just the smoothness of the gameplay itself made this game so much better.

    I really hope it stays like this.

    After a full day of playing rivals.

    16 games

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    I’ve had fun, but also i lost around 100 SR

    Went from like 2245 to 2150

    Playing against mbappe, neymar, cr7 is so hard... keeping up with them is very difficult, which is a good thing.

    I recently just sold my whole team and playing with saint max, ousmane... those type of players

    And honestly in the previous gen i was still able to easily out play my opponents, but now it is tough.

    When they get touched they lose the ball, the ball doesn’t bounce back or stick to me as often as it did (which is good)

    I like it though, can’t wait to buy back my team... even though I’m 100% going to take more losses because trying to defend all those top players is ridiculously hard for me right now.

    Idk if I’m just having an off day but I’ve been struggling a lot lol

    Deja Vu, exactly how the game was on release

    For the past 5 years, give it a couple of weeks then you'll see

    How have people not learnt yet?

    I am one of those people, buy the game every year based on the trial, full purchase and boom! Totally different game. Fraud squad need to look into this
  • chevano
    329 posts Sunday League Hero
    Im going back to old gen. I really hate the sluggish and slow gameplay on next gen. Graphics are fire but i rather have good gameplay

    yeah doing the same thing ,its to annoying to play so far
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    I'm going back to old gen....

    I like it, but the main reason is the AI blocks... just the blocks are so bad compared to what they are after the patch it's insane....

    Once they patch the blocks on new gen i'll go back again.. but everything else i still enjoy.

    Apart from the blocks which just ruin the game...
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  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    tommyboyo wrote: »
    TDOF wrote: »
    I'm going back to old gen....

    I like it, but the main reason is the AI blocks... just the blocks are so bad compared to what they are after the patch it's insane....

    Once they patch the blocks on new gen i'll go back again.. but everything else i still enjoy.

    Apart from the blocks which just ruin the game...

    I went back to next gen pretty early.

    I think the new version will be WAY better once everything is up to speed, but for me, there was no point playing WL on it with the reduced player base and inferior build version.

    Loads of positives from my time trialling it though.

    Yeah i do like it, but as you said, once it's up to speed with the patches there's no point...
  • aziz_221
    193 posts Sunday League Hero
    When Fifa 21 started it was good and smooth after the game released it become slow and stupid as fifa 20,19,18,17

    And I think when everyone get ps5 it will be same
  • DANNY_M
    486 posts An Exciting Prospect
    TDOF wrote: »
    Just want to make a thread just purely on gameplay.

    If you want a more general thread, (camera, haptics...etc) here; https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/579304/next-gen-update-now-available/p1

    My Opinions;

    So far played 5 games all in rivals at ~2200 rivals

    First off im yet to play an opponent at my level, i keep getting matched against people at 1800, obviously not that many people are on.

    The actual gameplay

    Wow.

    The difference is night and day... Just feels a lot smoother and responsive on the ball, the extra animations of players controlling the ball instead of the ball just bouncing is FANTASTIC.

    The whole game speed feels slower, which isn't a terrible thing... you feel more in control on the ball if that makes sense.

    Tackles.... i've yet to have a single bounce back. Every good tackle i made i got the ball.

    Dribbling doesn't feel so clunky.

    I have yet to see any crazy ice skating.

    So far im actually shocked. I can't believe how much better this game is....

    The bad

    I really hope this isn't just because not a lot of people are on the servers.

    Once a lot of people get it and servers start overloading on next gen are we just going to go back to what we had?

    Obviously no one knows till it happens.

    But as i said. Just the smoothness of the gameplay itself made this game so much better.

    I really hope it stays like this.

    After a full day of playing rivals.

    16 games

    3-A1-CE746-3-B80-4-C96-B671-D739-E093-F685.jpg

    I’ve had fun, but also i lost around 100 SR

    Went from like 2245 to 2150

    Playing against mbappe, neymar, cr7 is so hard... keeping up with them is very difficult, which is a good thing.

    I recently just sold my whole team and playing with saint max, ousmane... those type of players

    And honestly in the previous gen i was still able to easily out play my opponents, but now it is tough.

    When they get touched they lose the ball, the ball doesn’t bounce back or stick to me as often as it did (which is good)

    I like it though, can’t wait to buy back my team... even though I’m 100% going to take more losses because trying to defend all those top players is ridiculously hard for me right now.

    Idk if I’m just having an off day but I’ve been struggling a lot lol

    I'm going back to old gen....

    I like it, but the main reason is the AI blocks... just the blocks are so bad compared to what they are after the patch it's insane....

    Once they patch the blocks on new gen i'll go back again.. but everything else i still enjoy.

    Apart from the blocks which just ruin the game...

    Hello mate I may be late to the party and this may of been said or maybe I’m missing something.

    I want to discuss next gen graphics.

    “NEXT GEN” is a complete farce.

    Graphically the pitch looks great (how it should of done in last gen)

    Some player heads look improved, I mean SOME lots of players even in big teams look just like they did on my PS4

    If I’m not mistaken, that seems to be the only upgrade graphically? Can anyone correct me?

    Stadiums look the same, crowed looks the same
    Most players look the same, some
    Players who had that extra detail in the hair it looks buggy. I see no next gen graphic improvements apart from the pitch but that could of easily been replicated in last gen.

    Only in the new cut scenes do things look different but they are only added here and there. What was the point in all this build up?

    I’m currently on a 10 hour Beckham demo for some
    Reason theres no option to upgrade to next level even though I paid for digital ultimate edition. This may be the reason of the lack of visual upgrades but I doubt it?

    Can anyone else correct me in what I’m seeing? Is it my end?

    As for gameplay feels muchhhhh slower. FUT feels horrible yet SEASONS feels better but I feel there is some kind of lag and it feels like it’s meant to be that way?



  • Wurrsmycash
    1568 posts Play-Off Hero
    Weekend league has been horrific on next gen

    Currently 11-13. Previous two weeks (20-9 & 14-7)

    Very limited pool of players and everyone plays like they're a pro, and nothing but God Squads it's a completely different level than ps4 version. Gonna hopefully scrape G3 and back to old gen for awhile I think
  • DANNY_M
    486 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Weekend league has been horrific on next gen

    Currently 11-13. Previous two weeks (20-9 & 14-7)

    Very limited pool of players and everyone plays like they're a pro, and nothing but God Squads it's a completely different level than ps4 version. Gonna hopefully scrape G3 and back to old gen for awhile I think

    Seeing rewards for players this year who get top 100 or top 10 the rewards are disgusting and I just dont see the motivation to grind?
  • Wurrsmycash
    1568 posts Play-Off Hero
    DANNY_M wrote: »
    Weekend league has been horrific on next gen

    Currently 11-13. Previous two weeks (20-9 & 14-7)

    Very limited pool of players and everyone plays like they're a pro, and nothing but God Squads it's a completely different level than ps4 version. Gonna hopefully scrape G3 and back to old gen for awhile I think

    Seeing rewards for players this year who get top 100 or top 10 the rewards are disgusting and I just dont see the motivation to grind?

    Yeah WL reds and packs have been horrendous this year, and you can see it by the pros opening them. Bateson opening multiple top 100 rewards and getting nothing.

    G3 and D1 Rank 3 rivals from the 400 points will be my main stay. Will be chilling on friendlies after that.
  • golazo
    2450 posts National Call-Up
    This is why I sold my PS5 on launch day for 1k. Almost $500 profit. I figured i probly would be disappointed with FIFA on new gen. Thought I’d rather wait until next year and new fifa. Also
    By that time the PS5 will be on shelves and easy to buy. Maybe a little cheaper as well.
  • AlfGarnet
    159 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    golazo wrote: »
    This is why I sold my PS5 on launch day for 1k. Almost $500 profit. I figured i probly would be disappointed with FIFA on new gen. Thought I’d rather wait until next year and new fifa. Also
    By that time the PS5 will be on shelves and easy to buy. Maybe a little cheaper as well.

    Don't blame you easy money 🤑
  • TwoZebras
    6741 posts Big Money Move
    Seems a lot of people on reddit are going back to old-gen as well since only hardcore players are on next-gen
  • Queens11
    3090 posts National Call-Up
    I was actually excited after seeing this post the other day I downloaded next gen version after 5 games in wl yesterday and 5 today I can honestly say its easily the worst gameplay in regards to unresponsive inputs and delay ive ever experienced and players still cant intercept a ball inches from thier feet

    Anyone who hasn't got next gen don't get to exited its brutal

    Only good thing is the menus are quick
  • Queens11
    3090 posts National Call-Up
    TDOF wrote: »
    Queens11 wrote: »
    Been absolutely brutal for me thought I'd give wl a go as I had only been playing a few games
    Next gen was barely playable just like the last one delay delay delay, passing going everywhere, players on skates phantom penalties lol
    Absolutely no difference to actuall gameplay
    Graphics and menus are massive improvement but gameplay still rigged ta ❤️❤️❤️❤️

    Gameplay has been night and day for me.... honestly, im also having the worst weekend league of my life....

    All my games have felt good though,i really hope this AI blocking patch comes soon though, they're ridiculous..

    Its doing my head in so much potential yet ea want to add all the ai bs into the game
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    Queens11 wrote: »
    I was actually excited after seeing this post the other day I downloaded next gen version after 5 games in wl yesterday and 5 today I can honestly say its easily the worst gameplay in regards to unresponsive inputs and delay ive ever experienced and players still cant intercept a ball inches from thier feet

    Anyone who hasn't got next gen don't get to exited its brutal

    Only good thing is the menus are quick

    I still disagree with that... for me and my experience with it

    i've went back today played like 5 games of champs (won them all) and the difference is night and day....

    EVERYTHING apart from the blocks is better. Easily...

    i can't dribble like i did on next gen. The amount of touches your players take to control the ball is just significantly worse....

    as soon as the patch with the AI blocks is out on next gen im going back. Just feels a lot smoother on next gen.

    but also my matchmaking on current gen is easier too. @Queens11
  • Queens11
    3090 posts National Call-Up
    TDOF wrote: »
    Queens11 wrote: »
    I was actually excited after seeing this post the other day I downloaded next gen version after 5 games in wl yesterday and 5 today I can honestly say its easily the worst gameplay in regards to unresponsive inputs and delay ive ever experienced and players still cant intercept a ball inches from thier feet

    Anyone who hasn't got next gen don't get to exited its brutal

    Only good thing is the menus are quick

    I still disagree with that... for me and my experience with it

    i've went back today played like 5 games of champs (won them all) and the difference is night and day....

    EVERYTHING apart from the blocks is better. Easily...

    i can't dribble like i did on next gen. The amount of touches your players take to control the ball is just significantly worse....

    as soon as the patch with the AI blocks is out on next gen im going back. Just feels a lot smoother on next gen.

    but also my matchmaking on current gen is easier too. @Queens11

    I can't seem to do anything my player switching is horrendous and my players are skidding around ice-skating ffs
    If its this bad now for me what's it going to be like once more players get on
  • Queens11
    3090 posts National Call-Up
    Weekend league has been horrific on next gen

    Currently 11-13. Previous two weeks (20-9 & 14-7)

    Very limited pool of players and everyone plays like they're a pro, and nothing but God Squads it's a completely different level than ps4 version. Gonna hopefully scrape G3 and back to old gen for awhile I think

    Same for me ive lost 6 won 5 gameplay has been wosrt i think I've ever experienced and that's saying something giving the state of game last year
  • Skorpio_King
    13215 posts Has That Special Something
    WL on next gen is sooo garbage. The gameplay is horrible. Anyone who says different are not right. Old gen is so much more responsive then the sluggish next gen.
  • Mamba24
    38 posts Last Pick at the Park
    Gameplay is for sure a lot better on next gen in my opinion. It’s slower paced which I think people dislike and confusing for the game being unresponsive. I don’t think I could go back to “current gen” though even though like OP I’m having my worse WL to date, current gen gameplay for me on the whole has been all over the place in terms of pacing and button delay can be brutal at peak times, have none of that so far on next gen.

    Currently scrapping away at 7W 6L, it’s strange though as I haven’t particularly been playing against a better standard of opposition but it’s been relentless 1 depth borefest opponents who I just never have the patience to adjust my game against. The quality of opposition squad has been a lot better though, regular Mbappe and upper tier icons.

    Again agree with OP the auto blocks make the 1 depth play a lot more effective, was hoping they would patch yesterday.

    Fingers crossed it’s patched for next weekend.
  • jplumber
    2132 posts Fans' Favourite
    How do i revert to the old gen version on ps5? Is it a setting?
  • Mamba24
    38 posts Last Pick at the Park
    jplumber wrote: »
    How do i revert to the old gen version on ps5? Is it a setting?

    Click the button with the 3 dots next to “play”. Should give you the option to choose which version you want to play.

  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    jplumber wrote: »
    How do i revert to the old gen version on ps5? Is it a setting?

    press options on the game, and click game version @jplumber
  • jplumber
    2132 posts Fans' Favourite
    TDOF wrote: »
    jplumber wrote: »
    How do i revert to the old gen version on ps5? Is it a setting?

    press options on the game, and click game version @jplumber

    Thanks!!!
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    Mamba24 wrote: »
    Gameplay is for sure a lot better on next gen in my opinion. It’s slower paced which I think people dislike and confusing for the game being unresponsive. I don’t think I could go back to “current gen” though even though like OP I’m having my worse WL to date, current gen gameplay for me on the whole has been all over the place in terms of pacing and button delay can be brutal at peak times, have none of that so far on next gen.

    Currently scrapping away at 7W 6L, it’s strange though as I haven’t particularly been playing against a better standard of opposition but it’s been relentless 1 depth borefest opponents who I just never have the patience to adjust my game against. The quality of opposition squad has been a lot better though, regular Mbappe and upper tier icons.

    Again agree with OP the auto blocks make the 1 depth play a lot more effective, was hoping they would patch yesterday.

    Fingers crossed it’s patched for next weekend.

    Yeah, i just gone back to the new version for a game, and as i said multiple times the difference in gameplay is NIGHT AND DAY..... seriously.

    Yes it is slower as @Skorpio_King said, but it isn't "delayed" or "unresponsive"

    it feels like that because the game itself is slower more polished more smooth.

    The animations are great when dribbling. The AI blocks is the only thing that ruins it IMO
  • TDOF
    9002 posts League Winner
    Also, your team matters A LOT A LOT A LOT MORE on next gen version.

    I just bought my team back earlier today when players were too low, and wow.... going from Ousmane and Saint to Neymar and Mbappe, is ridiculous. The difference between them on next gen is much more noticeable than it is on prev gen
  • jplumber
    2132 posts Fans' Favourite
    TDOF wrote: »
    Mamba24 wrote: »
    Gameplay is for sure a lot better on next gen in my opinion. It’s slower paced which I think people dislike and confusing for the game being unresponsive. I don’t think I could go back to “current gen” though even though like OP I’m having my worse WL to date, current gen gameplay for me on the whole has been all over the place in terms of pacing and button delay can be brutal at peak times, have none of that so far on next gen.

    Currently scrapping away at 7W 6L, it’s strange though as I haven’t particularly been playing against a better standard of opposition but it’s been relentless 1 depth borefest opponents who I just never have the patience to adjust my game against. The quality of opposition squad has been a lot better though, regular Mbappe and upper tier icons.

    Again agree with OP the auto blocks make the 1 depth play a lot more effective, was hoping they would patch yesterday.

    Fingers crossed it’s patched for next weekend.

    Yeah, i just gone back to the new version for a game, and as i said multiple times the difference in gameplay is NIGHT AND DAY..... seriously.

    Yes it is slower as @Skorpio_King said, but it isn't "delayed" or "unresponsive"

    it feels like that because the game itself is slower more polished more smooth.

    The animations are great when dribbling. The AI blocks is the only thing that ruins it IMO

    Will the blocks be less effective any time soon in the next gen version? For me, that’s the major issue at the moment
  • Wurrsmycash
    1568 posts Play-Off Hero
    TDOF wrote: »
    Also, your team matters A LOT A LOT A LOT MORE on next gen version.

    I just bought my team back earlier today when players were too low, and wow.... going from Ousmane and Saint to Neymar and Mbappe, is ridiculous. The difference between them on next gen is much more noticeable than it is on prev gen

    Agree. My D1 team in current gen had Hernandez Alaba and Kimpembe in defense and Mahrez with Son and Pogba etc Im just getting ripped apart by Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe Neymar and a host of icons every game on next gen now...
  • Okocha10
    1102 posts Professional
    edited December 2020
    AI blocks have been the worse than any other Fifa this year even still with the patch on the previous gen they still need to nerf them
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