rivals placement which way to go?

Andyh60
3353 posts National Call-Up
Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

"This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

or the same way as on 19 and 20:

"For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

Cheers

Comments

  • ImAtrocious
    3206 posts National Call-Up
    I've been away from the game for a year, having opted not to buy it last year. I'm pretty sure I'll be quite rusty when the game comes out, and get absolutely demolished in online play. If I were to hop in and play the computer in Squad Battles, I feel like I'd probably do decently well. So, for me, I think it'd actually be advantageous to play online and get smacked, rather than get placed at a level where I was over my head.

    Won't most people think that starting off in a lower level is better (to help with objectives)? Or, do you think the rewards are enough that you're better off starting higher up in Rivals?
  • SmokeSwift1
    4385 posts National Call-Up
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals
  • ImAtrocious
    3206 posts National Call-Up
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals

    What's your recommendation for trading and opening packs with those 10 hours? Are you able to do web access immediately (or web app) so that you don't waste any of your hours? I'm not sure what I'll get as far as app access this year. I traded and built a team on the app last year, but ultimately didn't buy the game.
  • SmokeSwift1
    4385 posts National Call-Up
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals

    What's your recommendation for trading and opening packs with those 10 hours? Are you able to do web access immediately (or web app) so that you don't waste any of your hours? I'm not sure what I'll get as far as app access this year. I traded and built a team on the app last year, but ultimately didn't buy the game.

    You can open packs and trade on the webapp so don't waste anytime opening packs with your 10 hours
  • Surely everyone will be doing the 5 placement matches, scoring an own goal from kick off and the quitting so they're in the lowest division possible ready for the objectives.
  • greif44
    6117 posts Big Money Move
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.

    That`s a valid point, I would definitely play a few SB games to get used to gameplay, my squad and for something to open on Sunday. But as for DR placement, is it possible to play a few SB games and then just play 5 games in Rivals to get placed in a division?
    Asking because I am not a fan of SB mode and I believe I haven`t played even 100 games in SB in 20 so there is no way I will grind 30 SB in a short period of time.
  • SignpostSounder
    4238 posts National Call-Up
    edited September 2020
    Thunder001 wrote: »
    Surely everyone will be doing the 5 placement matches, scoring an own goal from kick off and the quitting so they're in the lowest division possible ready for the objectives.

    Depends.

    If they do five placement matches and get put into Division 5, they get the coin reward for being promoted out of Division 10, 9, 8, 7, and 6 all in one go. Depending on what those rewards actually are, that could be a very nice chunk of change to start off with.

    If they lose all their matches on purpose and end up starting in D10, they aren't going to be any better off in terms of coins, and they could be in D10 for weeks before any worthwhile objectives come along.
  • Zambo9
    6146 posts Big Money Move
    Thunder001 wrote: »
    Surely everyone will be doing the 5 placement matches, scoring an own goal from kick off and the quitting so they're in the lowest division possible ready for the objectives.

    At the start it's surely better to be in higher divisions so you can get better packs as rewards.
    Also I doubt there will be player objectives in the first week
  • Orison
    79476 posts Icon
    edited September 2020
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals

    @Boommaametw3 I guess it depends on you having fp or nah.

    If you do have fp I think it's more cost efficient to start playing drafts, after 3-4 drafts (if you are a solid player) you should be able to build a pretty decent starter team (on the web app ofc) and head into rivals. If you win all 5 games and get placed into div 4 you receive all one time coin boni from div 10-4 which accumulate to about 40-45k iirc.

    Then you can choose to either keep playing drafts or squad battles.

    But 40k for 5 placement matches is way better than playing squad battles for all 10 hours.

    Without fp it might be tough to get a squad good enough to quickly run through placement matches and win them all, but I guess you should still be able to win atleast 3-4 of them (as a competent player) which should still be worth it.
  • SmokeSwift1
    4385 posts National Call-Up
    Orison wrote: »
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals

    @Boommaametw3 I guess it depends on you having fp or nah.

    If you do have fp I think it's more cost efficient to start playing drafts, after 3-4 drafts (if you are a solid player) you should be able to build a pretty decent starter team (on the web app ofc) and head into rivals. If you win all 5 games and get placed into div 4 you receive all one time coin boni from div 10-4 which accumulate to about 40-45k iirc.

    Then you can choose to either keep playing drafts or squad battles.

    But 40k for 5 placement matches is way better than playing squad battles for all 10 hours.

    Without fp it might be tough to get a squad good enough to quickly run through placement matches and win them all, but I guess you should still be able to win atleast 3-4 of them (as a competent player) which should still be worth it.

    5 placement games is quick but you will lose with a crap team and you won't be placed more than div 4 best case scenrio. Just waste of 1 hour for me.
  • Orison wrote: »
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals

    @Boommaametw3 I guess it depends on you having fp or nah.

    If you do have fp I think it's more cost efficient to start playing drafts, after 3-4 drafts (if you are a solid player) you should be able to build a pretty decent starter team (on the web app ofc) and head into rivals. If you win all 5 games and get placed into div 4 you receive all one time coin boni from div 10-4 which accumulate to about 40-45k iirc.

    Then you can choose to either keep playing drafts or squad battles.

    But 40k for 5 placement matches is way better than playing squad battles for all 10 hours.

    Without fp it might be tough to get a squad good enough to quickly run through placement matches and win them all, but I guess you should still be able to win atleast 3-4 of them (as a competent player) which should still be worth it.

    5 placement games is quick but you will lose with a crap team and you won't be placed more than div 4 best case scenrio. Just waste of 1 hour for me.

    Worst I ever did was 2 years ago when ea access got released wednesday night and I had to get rivals done to secure rewards for Thursday morning. Went in with my starter team including all the bronzes, went 3-1-1 iirc which was good enough for div 5.

    Hardly a waste of one hour. Actually way better use of time than squad battles. You can still play squad battles the rest of the time, all you miss out on are 1-2 hours so maybe you finish elite 3 instead of elite 2 or so. Still the difference in squad battles ranks isn't worth 35-40k that you would get from rivals placement matches.
  • SmokeSwift1
    4385 posts National Call-Up
    Orison wrote: »
    Orison wrote: »
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals

    @Boommaametw3 I guess it depends on you having fp or nah.

    If you do have fp I think it's more cost efficient to start playing drafts, after 3-4 drafts (if you are a solid player) you should be able to build a pretty decent starter team (on the web app ofc) and head into rivals. If you win all 5 games and get placed into div 4 you receive all one time coin boni from div 10-4 which accumulate to about 40-45k iirc.

    Then you can choose to either keep playing drafts or squad battles.

    But 40k for 5 placement matches is way better than playing squad battles for all 10 hours.

    Without fp it might be tough to get a squad good enough to quickly run through placement matches and win them all, but I guess you should still be able to win atleast 3-4 of them (as a competent player) which should still be worth it.

    5 placement games is quick but you will lose with a crap team and you won't be placed more than div 4 best case scenrio. Just waste of 1 hour for me.

    Worst I ever did was 2 years ago when ea access got released wednesday night and I had to get rivals done to secure rewards for Thursday morning. Went in with my starter team including all the bronzes, went 3-1-1 iirc which was good enough for div 5.

    Hardly a waste of one hour. Actually way better use of time than squad battles. You can still play squad battles the rest of the time, all you miss out on are 1-2 hours so maybe you finish elite 3 instead of elite 2 or so. Still the difference in squad battles ranks isn't worth 35-40k that you would get from rivals placement matches.

    You can qualify for rivals with Squad battles. Some youtubers said it takes first 10 games plus you get better squad battles rewards. I can beat legendary 5-0 so i don't need to play all 40 games to get Elite 1
    I could get Elite 1 in 18 games then use the rest on drafts.
    Plus i would get placement rivals coins plus elite 1 squad battles rewards and save 1.5 hours to play a whole online draft. It's up to you tho.
  • Orison wrote: »
    Orison wrote: »
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals

    @Boommaametw3 I guess it depends on you having fp or nah.

    If you do have fp I think it's more cost efficient to start playing drafts, after 3-4 drafts (if you are a solid player) you should be able to build a pretty decent starter team (on the web app ofc) and head into rivals. If you win all 5 games and get placed into div 4 you receive all one time coin boni from div 10-4 which accumulate to about 40-45k iirc.

    Then you can choose to either keep playing drafts or squad battles.

    But 40k for 5 placement matches is way better than playing squad battles for all 10 hours.

    Without fp it might be tough to get a squad good enough to quickly run through placement matches and win them all, but I guess you should still be able to win atleast 3-4 of them (as a competent player) which should still be worth it.

    5 placement games is quick but you will lose with a crap team and you won't be placed more than div 4 best case scenrio. Just waste of 1 hour for me.

    Worst I ever did was 2 years ago when ea access got released wednesday night and I had to get rivals done to secure rewards for Thursday morning. Went in with my starter team including all the bronzes, went 3-1-1 iirc which was good enough for div 5.

    Hardly a waste of one hour. Actually way better use of time than squad battles. You can still play squad battles the rest of the time, all you miss out on are 1-2 hours so maybe you finish elite 3 instead of elite 2 or so. Still the difference in squad battles ranks isn't worth 35-40k that you would get from rivals placement matches.

    You can qualify for rivals with Squad battles. Some youtubers said it takes first 10 games plus you get better squad battles rewards. I can beat legendary 5-0 so i don't need to play all 40 games to get Elite 1
    I could get Elite 1 in 18 games then use the rest on drafts.
    Plus i would get placement rivals coins plus elite 1 squad battles rewards and save 1.5 hours to play a whole online draft. It's up to you tho.

    You need 30 games of squad battles to get ranked in rivals and get your rewards. That's your 10 hours done.
  • Mc_chigby
    1374 posts Professional
    Do both for the love of god. Play 2-3 hours squad battles, get used to it. Then play rivals a bit to get placed and get placement coins. Then back to squad battles
  • greif44
    6117 posts Big Money Move
    Mc_chigby wrote: »
    Do both for the love of god. Play 2-3 hours squad battles, get used to it. Then play rivals a bit to get placed and get placement coins. Then back to squad battles

    so is it possible to do it this way?
  • shepj6
    1835 posts Play-Off Hero
    Doesn't everyone normally end up in Division 4,5 or 6 after placement matches anyway? Would suspect that even if you finish elite 2 in SB you will still only be in Div 4. Might be wrong of course, but no one knows yet...
  • Mc_chigby
    1374 posts Professional
    greif44 wrote: »
    Mc_chigby wrote: »
    Do both for the love of god. Play 2-3 hours squad battles, get used to it. Then play rivals a bit to get placed and get placement coins. Then back to squad battles

    so is it possible to do it this way?

    Yep. They have only added in Squad battles placement to try and convince players to play rivals who hadn't before. You can still go and play 5 rivals matches to get placed in your division if you want. The benefit of only playing 5 matches and then getting placed means you get the big chunk of coins early on instead of grinding 30 squad battle matches.
  • greif44
    6117 posts Big Money Move
    Mc_chigby wrote: »
    greif44 wrote: »
    Mc_chigby wrote: »
    Do both for the love of god. Play 2-3 hours squad battles, get used to it. Then play rivals a bit to get placed and get placement coins. Then back to squad battles

    so is it possible to do it this way?

    Yep. They have only added in Squad battles placement to try and convince players to play rivals who hadn't before. You can still go and play 5 rivals matches to get placed in your division if you want. The benefit of only playing 5 matches and then getting placed means you get the big chunk of coins early on instead of grinding 30 squad battle matches.

    Yes, I recall that in 20, but I went to play Rivals right away. So just to confirm it: I can play a few SB games to practice and get used to everything, and then just get my placement through 5 DR games?
  • Mc_chigby
    1374 posts Professional
    greif44 wrote: »
    Mc_chigby wrote: »
    greif44 wrote: »
    Mc_chigby wrote: »
    Do both for the love of god. Play 2-3 hours squad battles, get used to it. Then play rivals a bit to get placed and get placement coins. Then back to squad battles

    so is it possible to do it this way?

    Yep. They have only added in Squad battles placement to try and convince players to play rivals who hadn't before. You can still go and play 5 rivals matches to get placed in your division if you want. The benefit of only playing 5 matches and then getting placed means you get the big chunk of coins early on instead of grinding 30 squad battle matches.

    Yes, I recall that in 20, but I went to play Rivals right away. So just to confirm it: I can play a few SB games to practice and get used to everything, and then just get my placement through 5 DR games?

    Correct, the placement through Squad Battles is separate so won't effect your placement via Rivals. Thats what I have read on EA's pitch notes and releases anyways.
  • greif44
    6117 posts Big Money Move
    Mc_chigby wrote: »
    greif44 wrote: »
    Mc_chigby wrote: »
    greif44 wrote: »
    Mc_chigby wrote: »
    Do both for the love of god. Play 2-3 hours squad battles, get used to it. Then play rivals a bit to get placed and get placement coins. Then back to squad battles

    so is it possible to do it this way?

    Yep. They have only added in Squad battles placement to try and convince players to play rivals who hadn't before. You can still go and play 5 rivals matches to get placed in your division if you want. The benefit of only playing 5 matches and then getting placed means you get the big chunk of coins early on instead of grinding 30 squad battle matches.

    Yes, I recall that in 20, but I went to play Rivals right away. So just to confirm it: I can play a few SB games to practice and get used to everything, and then just get my placement through 5 DR games?

    Correct, the placement through Squad Battles is separate so won't effect your placement via Rivals. Thats what I have read on EA's pitch notes and releases anyways.

    thank you mate! Will do it that way then.
  • Jack Frost
    272 posts Sunday League Hero
    I've been away from the game for a year, having opted not to buy it last year. I'm pretty sure I'll be quite rusty when the game comes out, and get absolutely demolished in online play. If I were to hop in and play the computer in Squad Battles, I feel like I'd probably do decently well. So, for me, I think it'd actually be advantageous to play online and get smacked, rather than get placed at a level where I was over my head.

    Won't most people think that starting off in a lower level is better (to help with objectives)? Or, do you think the rewards are enough that you're better off starting higher up in Rivals?

    yeah so about that... the new competitive mode, the AI is well different. In the beta I found the AI to be more challenging than without the setting on. On legendary it's just as good at the game, but now it'll skill you to death too.
  • George_Cook_Over60
    330 posts Sunday League Hero
    Everything frustrating and annoying happens in Squad Battles, certainly in FIFA 19 and 20. Slow players outpacing fast players, weak players shoving your strong players off the ball, AI playing tikka takka like Barca, players with 99 shooting missing the target and so on. More often than not, you feel the game is totally against you, and whatever you try doesn't work.
    If EA let us play SB like it should be, then nobody would be more pleased than me. As it stands, i don't see how they can gauge your level in a game mode that has so much wrong with it.
  • RedDevilNL
    365 posts Sunday League Hero
    Orison wrote: »
    Orison wrote: »
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals

    @Boommaametw3 I guess it depends on you having fp or nah.

    If you do have fp I think it's more cost efficient to start playing drafts, after 3-4 drafts (if you are a solid player) you should be able to build a pretty decent starter team (on the web app ofc) and head into rivals. If you win all 5 games and get placed into div 4 you receive all one time coin boni from div 10-4 which accumulate to about 40-45k iirc.

    Then you can choose to either keep playing drafts or squad battles.

    But 40k for 5 placement matches is way better than playing squad battles for all 10 hours.

    Without fp it might be tough to get a squad good enough to quickly run through placement matches and win them all, but I guess you should still be able to win atleast 3-4 of them (as a competent player) which should still be worth it.

    5 placement games is quick but you will lose with a crap team and you won't be placed more than div 4 best case scenrio. Just waste of 1 hour for me.

    Worst I ever did was 2 years ago when ea access got released wednesday night and I had to get rivals done to secure rewards for Thursday morning. Went in with my starter team including all the bronzes, went 3-1-1 iirc which was good enough for div 5.

    Hardly a waste of one hour. Actually way better use of time than squad battles. You can still play squad battles the rest of the time, all you miss out on are 1-2 hours so maybe you finish elite 3 instead of elite 2 or so. Still the difference in squad battles ranks isn't worth 35-40k that you would get from rivals placement matches.

    This right here. Getting a pile of coins to trade with on Thursday is better than getting slightly better rewards on Sunday.
  • truegunn3r
    14240 posts World Class
    edited September 2020
    It depends on how many games you play.

    - Squad Battles will yield a more accurate Division Rivals ranking for you as it is done over many more games and you can choose your difficulty level. As there is no demo to learn the game, you can start on semi-pro or pro on SB and work your way up to world class and legendary while you’re playing through the 30 matches.

    - if you go directly through the division rivals placement games then you can start earning your FUT Champs qualification points ASAP with less games to play. In addition, you may be able to reach rank 1 in time to collect your first set of division rival rewards.

    Both options are good and it just depends whether you like to play fut champs or not. Squad battles would require you to play way too many games just to get put into division rivals and then from then on you’ll have to build your FUT Champ qualification points which would require many more games, however squad battles would give you a better placement in DR.

    Most people would compensate a little skill rating on division rivals and take the placement matches so that they could start working on qualifying for FUT Champs ASAP which is the holy grail.
  • Andyh60
    3353 posts National Call-Up
    So how exactly do you enter via squad battles ??
  • JWNYsg
    7006 posts Big Money Move
    Andyh60 wrote: »
    Ok so we have the following scenarios for being placed in a division for rivals:

    "This year you will have an alternative placement method to help you find your level in Division Rivals. The first 30 matches played in Squad Battles will factor the difficulty you play at, and the results of your games, into your placement Division."

    or the same way as on 19 and 20:

    "For players who want to jump directly into the action in Rivals, the regular 5 Placement Match method will continue to be an option."

    Therefore for option 1 any idea on where you end up given say you get "elite 2" for example in squad battles?

    I mean all up for doing it this way if say you'd get at least division 4 or 3 or even higher with say elite 2 or 1 or whatever but that's the point who knows?

    I mean imagine doing all that and still end up in div 5 or 6 but as said no idea on what might come from the first option so is why I thought to open this as a thread?

    Cheers

    If you have a decent team you can play the rivals placement but in my opinion play squad battles to play the AI and get used to the gameplay first.
    Plus don't waste your 10 hours on rivals as the rewards will come the next week.
    Squad battles rewards comes on the first Sunday so you can kill two birds with one stone.
    Playing 5 rivals placement games you are literally wasting over 1 hour of your 10 hours for nothing.
    As you can play all 40 squad battles games from 10 hours alongside getting your division placement and rank placement rewards and in addiction of squad battles by Sunday
    From next Tuesday with pre order, you can play rivals to get rank 1 and climb higher from then.

    I won all placement games and was out in div 4, no one is put in div 1 right off the bat.

    Spend your 10 hours on online drafts if you have fifapoints and are a good player or spend all 10 hours on Squad battles. Don't waste it on rivals

    true but the 10 hours could be vital to Rivals also to qualify for first weekend league
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