I finally got Elite 3 (23-4) with the 451 (Tactic, instructions, gameplay)

IamFrench · June 22, 2020 5:12PM

Hey!

Small message to introduce you to a formation that has great potential and that can make the game fun.
I got Elite 3 (23-4) and having beaten some good players this weekend... but above all, the fun was present.

The most important players are the MC and CB, they must be very fast. When the opponent has the ball, we literally have 5 players who are aggressive (LM/CAM/CM/RM/ST) because we play with "Press after possession loss". It is very effective, but risky. Therefore, having fast players in CM (Henderson, Phillips, TOTS KDB, Vieira, etc) / CB (White, Ramos, Varane, Van Dijk, Gomez etc) is essential.

This formation shows the full potential of your players in defence, every successful tackle is satisfactory.

In CAM, I really like players like TOTY Kanté, TOTY/TOTS KDB, TOTS Ignacio Fernandez, Gullit etc. Very complete midfielders but you can play with Neymar, Mbappé, Sancho, etc without problem.

Team/instructions/custom tactic:

Gameplay:
1) Some goals of this weekend:

2) Theses opponents was not very good, but the video shows the full potential of this formation. Lots of variety.

3) The 451 is the only formation where I am happy to be able to score a beautiful goal

I wish you good luck and have fun!

Bakudu76 · June 22, 2020 5:14PM

Noice. Bookmarked this gem

AznSW · June 22, 2020 5:24PM

I tried this formation but for some reason my LM always switch position with my LCAM and my RM always switch position with my RCAM. Do you not have this problem?

IamFrench · June 22, 2020 5:26PM

AznSW wrote: »

I tried this formation but for some reason my LM always switch position with my LCAM and my RM always switch position with my RCAM. Do you not have this problem?

Some people have this problem, but to be honest I don't know... I've never had this problem. Perhaps it's the instructions, like as the CAM 41212(2)

EisenErmin · June 22, 2020 5:26PM

@IamFrench

Thanks for posting. Going to try it for sure. I had the issue with players switching positions too when I tried the formation

gregsii · June 22, 2020 5:28PM

@IamFrench
How you got 14 million coins without ever hitting elite before?
Are you a really good trader? If so, teach me.

sturges12345 · June 22, 2020 5:29PM

451 is pants because cams play like wingers. It's literally bugged

DannySTFC · June 22, 2020 5:34PM

AznSW wrote: »

I tried this formation but for some reason my LM always switch position with my LCAM and my RM always switch position with my RCAM. Do you not have this problem?

This is why I can’t play 451. Tried it and my CAMs spent more time out wide then my wide players and vice versa, maybe it’s been fixed now?

Delboy13710 · June 22, 2020 5:57PM

I love the concept of this formation but it's always been bugged for me . RM / RAM just stand there holding hands , then end up switching positions.

Maybe it's my instructions , I'll give it a spin as I'm all for attacking formations .

DeanoZoff · June 22, 2020 7:17PM

You should get elite really though frenchy...

You have a team worth about 30 million coins and spam the same "meta" things all game.

Well done though.

IamFrench · June 22, 2020 8:27PM

DeanoZoff wrote: »

You should get elite really though frenchy...

You have a team worth about 30 million coins and spam the same "meta" things all game.

Well done though.

You have all the videos about my gameplay.

Ballerson · June 22, 2020 8:36PM

Thanks for sharing! I’ll check it out.

EisenErmin · June 22, 2020 8:41PM

@IamFrench

Tried it with a stacked team, but it did not work at all. Which is sad as the 451 was my favorite last year and the one that gave me best results (20-22 wins, but never Elite)

DeanoZoff · June 23, 2020 9:56AM

IamFrench wrote: »

DeanoZoff wrote: »

You should get elite really though frenchy...

You have a team worth about 30 million coins and spam the same "meta" things all game.

Well done though.

You have all the videos about my gameplay.

Dont need them when i had the pleasure of playing against you before

Arsenalman · June 23, 2020 10:18AM

Nice goals mate looks like a good passing game, didn’t see any abuse of drag backs and such

gregsii · June 23, 2020 10:33AM

gregsii wrote: »

@IamFrench
How you got 14 million coins without ever hitting elite before?
Are you a really good trader? If so, teach me.

?

BC_United · June 23, 2020 10:50AM

@IamFrench glad to have read your post as I was trying to change to the following 451 team this past WL (as a way to fit everyone in the following team)

but after first 6 games i was at 1-5 so i switched back to my original team below

and i finished at 11 wins with 6 games to spare

i think the main reasons that i was having more success with the 2nd team one rate 1st team were:
1. i have a more solid midfield (TOTS KDB, TOTY Kante, TOTY FDJ)
2. like some said, with the 451 Zanetti was drifting wide and Messi and Neymar were thinking that they were CDMs

so my question to you is:

1. do you think my 451 team above would work with your tactics?

2. would you pick TOTS KDB or TOTY Kante to start at the CM spot? (due to chem reasons i can start both of them so will have to pick one and sub the other one in later on). I noticed that you have Philips there so maybe it's better to have a CDM at the CM spot and a B2B at one of the CAM spots? I do wanna start with KDB as he's more rounded but Kante is just much more effective with defending

3. Is this your starting formation, or do you use it when you're behind/ahead?

newguy · June 23, 2020 11:10AM

BC_United wrote: »

@IamFrench glad to have read your post as I was trying to change to the following 451 team this past WL (as a way to fit everyone in the following team)

but after first 6 games i was at 1-5 so i switched back to my original team below

and i finished at 11 wins with 6 games to spare

i think the main reasons that i was having more success with the 2nd team one rate 1st team were:
1. i have a more solid midfield (TOTS KDB, TOTY Kante, TOTY FDJ)
2. like some said, with the 451 Zanetti was drifting wide and Messi and Neymar were thinking that they were CDMs

so my question to you is:

1. do you think my 451 team above would work with your tactics?

2. would you pick TOTS KDB or TOTY Kante to start at the CM spot? (due to chem reasons i can start both of them so will have to pick one and sub the other one in later on). I noticed that you have Philips there so maybe it's better to have a CDM at the CM spot and a B2B at one of the CAM spots? I do wanna start with KDB as he's more rounded but Kante is just much more effective with defending

3. Is this your starting formation, or do you use it when you're behind/ahead?

@BC_United first team looks way better imo, just switch Zanetti and KDB in game

gregsii · June 23, 2020 11:14AM

@BC_United
How do you have this team if you can barely scrape 11 wins?

Are people just full on credit card FC in these forums?

Am I literally the only person here who doesn't spend tonnes on FP?

Claret_n_blue_blood · June 23, 2020 11:35AM

DeanoZoff wrote: »

IamFrench wrote: »

DeanoZoff wrote: »

You should get elite really though frenchy...

You have a team worth about 30 million coins and spam the same "meta" things all game.

Well done though.

You have all the videos about my gameplay.

Dont need them when i had the pleasure of playing against you before

IamFrench · June 23, 2020 12:10PM

gregsii wrote: »

@IamFrench
How you got 14 million coins without ever hitting elite before?
Are you a really good trader? If so, teach me.

I got elite several times in 4231, but this is the first time with the 451. I've never spent €1 on FIFA since FIFA12.

DeanoZoff wrote: »

IamFrench wrote: »

DeanoZoff wrote: »

You should get elite really though frenchy...

You have a team worth about 30 million coins and spam the same "meta" things all game.

Well done though.

You have all the videos about my gameplay.

Dont need them when i had the pleasure of playing against you before

These are just words, I posted different videos of my gameplay. This weekend I didn't play with my main team but a team with Rooney.

BC_United wrote: »

@IamFrench glad to have read your post as I was trying to change to the following 451 team this past WL (as a way to fit everyone in the following team)

but after first 6 games i was at 1-5 so i switched back to my original team below

and i finished at 11 wins with 6 games to spare

i think the main reasons that i was having more success with the 2nd team one rate 1st team were:
1. i have a more solid midfield (TOTS KDB, TOTY Kante, TOTY FDJ)
2. like some said, with the 451 Zanetti was drifting wide and Messi and Neymar were thinking that they were CDMs

so my question to you is:

1. do you think my 451 team above would work with your tactics?

2. would you pick TOTS KDB or TOTY Kante to start at the CM spot? (due to chem reasons i can start both of them so will have to pick one and sub the other one in later on). I noticed that you have Philips there so maybe it's better to have a CDM at the CM spot and a B2B at one of the CAM spots? I do wanna start with KDB as he's more rounded but Kante is just much more effective with defending

3. Is this your starting formation, or do you use it when you're behind/ahead?

Zanetti RB ; Trent CM ; KDB CAM. I've played a lot of times with Trent CM in this formation, excellent! Zanetti is my favorite RB this year so yes, your team is good for the 451.

PS: TOTY Kanté in CAM 451 = Monster.

I play 451 from the first to the last minute except in some hard matches, I play in 4231 in the last minutes for more solidity

BC_United · June 23, 2020 3:45PM

newguy wrote: »

BC_United wrote: »

@IamFrench glad to have read your post as I was trying to change to the following 451 team this past WL (as a way to fit everyone in the following team)

but after first 6 games i was at 1-5 so i switched back to my original team below

and i finished at 11 wins with 6 games to spare

i think the main reasons that i was having more success with the 2nd team one rate 1st team were:
1. i have a more solid midfield (TOTS KDB, TOTY Kante, TOTY FDJ)
2. like some said, with the 451 Zanetti was drifting wide and Messi and Neymar were thinking that they were CDMs

so my question to you is:

1. do you think my 451 team above would work with your tactics?

2. would you pick TOTS KDB or TOTY Kante to start at the CM spot? (due to chem reasons i can start both of them so will have to pick one and sub the other one in later on). I noticed that you have Philips there so maybe it's better to have a CDM at the CM spot and a B2B at one of the CAM spots? I do wanna start with KDB as he's more rounded but Kante is just much more effective with defending

3. Is this your starting formation, or do you use it when you're behind/ahead?

@BC_United first team looks way better imo, just switch Zanetti and KDB in game

would the 1st team still work without switching Zanetti and KDB? i'm only using this as my starting formation to get everyone on full chem but don't want to waste an extra tactic or pause in-game to switch those 2 players

BC_United · June 23, 2020 3:47PM

gregsii wrote: »

@BC_United
How do you have this team if you can barely scrape 11 wins?

Are people just full on credit card FC in these forums?

Am I literally the only person here who doesn't spend tonnes on FP?

I buy FPs because i'm 40 and have a kid so no time to grind/trade but have some spare cash to help me build a team that I like to play with

BC_United · June 23, 2020 3:51PM

IamFrench wrote: »

gregsii wrote: »

@IamFrench
How you got 14 million coins without ever hitting elite before?
Are you a really good trader? If so, teach me.

I got elite several times in 4231, but this is the first time with the 451. I've never spent €1 on FIFA since FIFA12.

DeanoZoff wrote: »

IamFrench wrote: »

DeanoZoff wrote: »

You should get elite really though frenchy...

You have a team worth about 30 million coins and spam the same "meta" things all game.

Well done though.

You have all the videos about my gameplay.

Dont need them when i had the pleasure of playing against you before

These are just words, I posted different videos of my gameplay. This weekend I didn't play with my main team but a team with Rooney.

BC_United wrote: »

@IamFrench glad to have read your post as I was trying to change to the following 451 team this past WL (as a way to fit everyone in the following team)

but after first 6 games i was at 1-5 so i switched back to my original team below

and i finished at 11 wins with 6 games to spare

i think the main reasons that i was having more success with the 2nd team one rate 1st team were:
1. i have a more solid midfield (TOTS KDB, TOTY Kante, TOTY FDJ)
2. like some said, with the 451 Zanetti was drifting wide and Messi and Neymar were thinking that they were CDMs

so my question to you is:

1. do you think my 451 team above would work with your tactics?

2. would you pick TOTS KDB or TOTY Kante to start at the CM spot? (due to chem reasons i can start both of them so will have to pick one and sub the other one in later on). I noticed that you have Philips there so maybe it's better to have a CDM at the CM spot and a B2B at one of the CAM spots? I do wanna start with KDB as he's more rounded but Kante is just much more effective with defending

3. Is this your starting formation, or do you use it when you're behind/ahead?

Zanetti RB ; Trent CM ; KDB CAM. I've played a lot of times with Trent CM in this formation, excellent! Zanetti is my favorite RB this year so yes, your team is good for the 451.

PS: TOTY Kanté in CAM 451 = Monster.

I play 451 from the first to the last minute except in some hard matches, I play in 4231 in the last minutes for more solidity

I do want to have 4 other formations to switch to depending on how things go during the game and this would be my starting formation to get everyone on full chem, is there anyway to play in this formation without changing players in game (i.e. play with players in their starting position)? Would Zanetti be odd at RCAM even with come back on defence? Should I not have him get into the box?

Would you still start KDB over Kante at CM?

IamFrench · June 23, 2020 4:30PM

With your team:

Zanetti RB
Trent CM
KDB CAM

notowins · June 23, 2020 4:47PM

@IamFrench dude! Loved your work on Futhead and Futbin back in the day.

Also going to give this formation a try. Cheers.

I finally got Elite 3 (23-4) with the 451 (Tactic, instructions, gameplay)

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