FUT Rewards System...Trash

n2j2000
2503 posts Fans' Favourite
Honestly the way EA set up the rewards for FUT Champs and Rivals is a scam.

Finish Elite 3/G1 almost every week. Every single red player pick is garbage.

TOTW pack....always all discard trash players.

Don’t even mention the regular pack pulls from rewards, always trash.

FUT Champs 86+ upgrade, chance to use all those trash red picks....always another trash 86-87 rated player.

Literally the only useful part of rewards in the coins so you can save them up to buy players you actually want.

Unless you are very very lucky which 99% of us aren’t, you just keep getting given trash after trash from rewards every single week.

EA needs to review the rewards structure to allow people who grind the game to actually get decent useable red picks, or TOTW or pack pulls.

Seeing pros going 30-0 and get T100 rewards and they are all trash as well!! Something needs to change to allow people a better opportunity to get decent players they actually want to use in their teams.

Comments

  • Retro_G
    33023 posts National Team Captain
    edited December 2019
    Agreed it's atrocious, has been getting worse ever since Fifa 18.
  • Ronaldo
    4173 posts National Call-Up
    Totally agree. I got elite 3 all discard informs and terrible red player picks. Then did the 86 upgrade and got Hummels as my best pick
  • 100% agree. This will slowly start driving people away. There is no motivation to grind for this rubbish.
  • Idek
    17630 posts World Class
    Everybody moans about how bad the rewards are every week but everyone still plays it every week so why would they change anything
  • n2j2000
    2503 posts Fans' Favourite
    Ronaldo wrote: »
    Totally agree. I got elite 3 all discard informs and terrible red player picks. Then did the 86 upgrade and got Hummels as my best pick

    It’s a joke isn’t it. Same garbage every single week. EA mugging us off knowing we will play the following week in the hope of getting something good but it’s always more trash.
  • InformCollector
    1851 posts Fans' Favourite
    I finished silver 1 a few weeks back and packed Maradona. It's Random
  • Retro_G
    33023 posts National Team Captain
    edited December 2019
    Idek wrote: »
    Everybody moans about how bad the rewards are every week but everyone still plays it every week so why would they change anything

    I bet people don't play it near as much. On Fifa 17 I would put a lot of time into Fut Champs, the rewards were worth the grind for elite. Now I usually stop at Gold 3 or Silver 1, that's if I'm even arsed entering fut champs. Division Rivals rewards are worse than what they used to be for winning Division 1. Take this week for example, grinded to Rank 1 rewards, didn't even get a board. On the old Divisions you could get 15k for every Division 1 win, a pack and over the course of a week you could win multiple D1 titles.
  • Str8hii
    1913 posts Play-Off Hero
    80 % of community finishes in gold 3 so odds are they gonna pack better players because of the quantity
  • RileyD
    2293 posts Fans' Favourite
    I haven't read the post but can I safely assume that the rewards are 'trash' because the op only got a Banega this week?

    It's all luck buddy
  • Idek
    17630 posts World Class
    Retro_G wrote: »
    Idek wrote: »
    Everybody moans about how bad the rewards are every week but everyone still plays it every week so why would they change anything

    I bet people don't play it near as much. On Fifa 17 I would put a lot of time into Fut Champs, the rewards were worth the grind for elite. Now I usually stop at Gold 3 or Silver 1, that's if I'm even arsed entering fut champs. Division Rivals rewards are worse than what they used to be for winning Division 1. Take this week for example, grinded to Rank 1 rewards, didn't even get a board. On the old Divisions you could get 15k for every Division 1 win, a pack and over the course of a week you could win multiple D1 titles.

    I've only played 4 WL's this year because I cba anymore and I only played all my games in 1 of them but there's still more than enough people grinding it out every week for EA to change things
  • Aspral
    3797 posts National Call-Up
    Same. Every week gold 1+ if i play and never get a single good thing.

    Just scrape the bottom of the barrel whilsy silver players get better rewards
  • Retro_G
    33023 posts National Team Captain
    Idek wrote: »
    Retro_G wrote: »
    Idek wrote: »
    Everybody moans about how bad the rewards are every week but everyone still plays it every week so why would they change anything

    I bet people don't play it near as much. On Fifa 17 I would put a lot of time into Fut Champs, the rewards were worth the grind for elite. Now I usually stop at Gold 3 or Silver 1, that's if I'm even arsed entering fut champs. Division Rivals rewards are worse than what they used to be for winning Division 1. Take this week for example, grinded to Rank 1 rewards, didn't even get a board. On the old Divisions you could get 15k for every Division 1 win, a pack and over the course of a week you could win multiple D1 titles.

    I've only played 4 WL's this year because I cba anymore and I only played all my games in 1 of them but there's still more than enough people grinding it out every week for EA to change things

    Is there though? We've no idea how many people are still playing Champions. Champs matchmaking takes longer than Rivals and that would suggest lower numbers. I've gotten matched against the same opponent on numerous occasions.
  • purplegoldfish
    469 posts An Exciting Prospect
    My best player pick was James Tarkowski haha and naturally got literally nothing from the packs.
  • RexAnglo1066
    3894 posts National Call-Up
    edited December 2019
    I'd love it if one of E.As biggest markets, which would probably have to be the U.S or E.U, brought forward legislation which made it quite clear that if they wished to continue making billions via Fifa points they must provide detailed, fairly long term, statistical data on precisely how their glorified fruit machine game works.

    That means a country by country break down of how much is spent, at which times of the day are sales better, any age specific information, and the declared percentage of drops in each pack, and the actual results of all pack openings.

    Provide that, so people can see their is no manipulation of the rewards depending on who is opening the pack(s).

    That would dispel any idea that streamers or You Tubers are receiving special treatment.

    The raw data won't lie, and if E.A try they will be held accountable.

    They would then be forced to show the chance in a clear, easily understood percentage number for each card in the pack.

    So, as an example, if you had a Gold Player Pack then it would show a breakdown like this;

    non rare gold 60%,
    rare gold 76 rated 35%
    rare gold 77-85 rated 3%
    rare gold 86-98 rated 1.5%
    Icon 0.5%.


    This would be clearly visible when the pack is looked at in the store, in a simply layout that can be understood by everyone.

    I know they do have a similar kind of breakdown, but it's not prominently displayed and, as far as I'm aware, nobody holds them to account and verifies anything they say.

  • Torn4do
    1319 posts Professional
    n2j2000 wrote: »
    Honestly the way EA set up the rewards for FUT Champs and Rivals is a scam.

    Finish Elite 3/G1 almost every week. Every single red player pick is garbage.

    TOTW pack....always all discard trash players.

    Don’t even mention the regular pack pulls from rewards, always trash.

    FUT Champs 86+ upgrade, chance to use all those trash red picks....always another trash 86-87 rated player.

    Literally the only useful part of rewards in the coins so you can save them up to buy players you actually want.

    Unless you are very very lucky which 99% of us aren’t, you just keep getting given trash after trash from rewards every single week.

    EA needs to review the rewards structure to allow people who grind the game to actually get decent useable red picks, or TOTW or pack pulls.

    Seeing pros going 30-0 and get T100 rewards and they are all trash as well!! Something needs to change to allow people a better opportunity to get decent players they actually want to use in their teams.

    People should be rewarded for how many games they play, I reckon I have played around 700 -800 games, WL most weeks, finish gold 2, division 5.

    I haven’t had one pick above 84 from reds, packs from rewards the best I have had is Deli Alli, my team is all from taking coins each week, no trading as I am not a trader I just want to play the game.

    I have now given up on WL after today’s picks of Tarkowski and Bauman!

    I traded in 11 red picks today and got Sancho!

    My motivation has completely gone and just can’t be bothered!

    Surely we should all be rewarded for playing the game, I can’t remember ever playing anyone in WL that has a worse team than mine! It’s like an uphill challenge every week and getting harder!
  • RileyD
    2293 posts Fans' Favourite
    Torn4do wrote: »
    n2j2000 wrote: »
    Honestly the way EA set up the rewards for FUT Champs and Rivals is a scam.

    Finish Elite 3/G1 almost every week. Every single red player pick is garbage.

    TOTW pack....always all discard trash players.

    Don’t even mention the regular pack pulls from rewards, always trash.

    FUT Champs 86+ upgrade, chance to use all those trash red picks....always another trash 86-87 rated player.

    Literally the only useful part of rewards in the coins so you can save them up to buy players you actually want.

    Unless you are very very lucky which 99% of us aren’t, you just keep getting given trash after trash from rewards every single week.

    EA needs to review the rewards structure to allow people who grind the game to actually get decent useable red picks, or TOTW or pack pulls.

    Seeing pros going 30-0 and get T100 rewards and they are all trash as well!! Something needs to change to allow people a better opportunity to get decent players they actually want to use in their teams.

    People should be rewarded for how many games they play, I reckon I have played around 700 -800 games, WL most weeks, finish gold 2, division 5.

    I haven’t had one pick above 84 from reds, packs from rewards the best I have had is Deli Alli, my team is all from taking coins each week, no trading as I am not a trader I just want to play the game.

    I have now given up on WL after today’s picks of Tarkowski and Bauman!

    I traded in 11 red picks today and got Sancho!

    My motivation has completely gone and just can’t be bothered!

    Surely we should all be rewarded for playing the game, I can’t remember ever playing anyone in WL that has a worse team than mine! It’s like an uphill challenge every week and getting harder!

    You are rewarded for playing the game, free packs and players from Season Objectives
  • n2j2000
    2503 posts Fans' Favourite
    I finished silver 1 a few weeks back and packed Maradona. It's Random
    RileyD wrote: »
    I haven't read the post but can I safely assume that the rewards are 'trash' because the op only got a Banega this week?

    It's all luck buddy

    Yes that’s exactly my point. Rewards shouldn’t be random! The more you play and the better you finish should be rewarded with better cards.
  • Fifapayne
    7848 posts League Winner
    RileyD wrote: »
    I haven't read the post but can I safely assume that the rewards are 'trash' because the op only got a Banega this week?

    It's all luck buddy
    The problem is ..it shouldn’t be all luck an elite player should have better reds every week compared to g3 etc.

    And monthlies rewards did exactly that
  • MelkorAintGood
    329 posts Sunday League Hero
    G3 and S1 players should not have even a possibility to get top red card.
  • purplegoldfish
    469 posts An Exciting Prospect
    G3 and S1 players should not have even a possibility to get top red card.

    People stop at gold 1 now because the rewards dont get better haha
  • Mmandras
    6600 posts Big Money Move
    edited December 2019
    G3 and S1 players should not have even a possibility to get top red card.

    I don't agree at all. It's hard as hell to achieve G3! After S1 you keep encountering god squads and drag back spammers that are very hard to defend against.

    And I think 90% of "elite" WL players cheat to get to that. I am positive now that majority of guys even on this forum use disconnect glitch. I think it is golden standard for "elite" players and nobody talks about it because they are affraid EA will take more serious action.

    As such the whole WL system is one big scam and EA is not to blame except in the way they are uninterested or uncompetent to solve it.
  • Torn4do
    1319 posts Professional
    RileyD wrote: »
    Torn4do wrote: »
    n2j2000 wrote: »
    Honestly the way EA set up the rewards for FUT Champs and Rivals is a scam.

    Finish Elite 3/G1 almost every week. Every single red player pick is garbage.

    TOTW pack....always all discard trash players.

    Don’t even mention the regular pack pulls from rewards, always trash.

    FUT Champs 86+ upgrade, chance to use all those trash red picks....always another trash 86-87 rated player.

    Literally the only useful part of rewards in the coins so you can save them up to buy players you actually want.

    Unless you are very very lucky which 99% of us aren’t, you just keep getting given trash after trash from rewards every single week.

    EA needs to review the rewards structure to allow people who grind the game to actually get decent useable red picks, or TOTW or pack pulls.

    Seeing pros going 30-0 and get T100 rewards and they are all trash as well!! Something needs to change to allow people a better opportunity to get decent players they actually want to use in their teams.

    People should be rewarded for how many games they play, I reckon I have played around 700 -800 games, WL most weeks, finish gold 2, division 5.

    I haven’t had one pick above 84 from reds, packs from rewards the best I have had is Deli Alli, my team is all from taking coins each week, no trading as I am not a trader I just want to play the game.

    I have now given up on WL after today’s picks of Tarkowski and Bauman!

    I traded in 11 red picks today and got Sancho!

    My motivation has completely gone and just can’t be bothered!

    Surely we should all be rewarded for playing the game, I can’t remember ever playing anyone in WL that has a worse team than mine! It’s like an uphill challenge every week and getting harder!

    You are rewarded for playing the game, free packs and players from Season Objectives

    From which I’ve not had a walk out all season.

    I do get what you are saying but it doesn’t work out.

    I know it’s all luck but when you get zero luck it comes to the point where you just give up like I have, I’m sure there are a lot more people like me dropping gout making the playing base smaller and eventually it will affect all players.
  • Fifapayne
    7848 posts League Winner
    Mmandras wrote: »
    G3 and S1 players should not have even a possibility to get top red card.

    I don't agree at all. It's hard as hell to achieve G3! After S1 you keep encountering god squads and drag back spammers that are very hard to defend against.

    And I think 90% of "elite" WL players cheat to get to that. I am positive now that majority of guys even on this forum use disconnect glitch. I think it is golden standard for "elite" players and nobody talks about it because they are affraid EA will take more serious action.

    As such the whole WL system is one big scam and EA is not to blame except in the way they are uninterested or uncompetent to solve it.
    Give me a break lol

    G3 is 14/30
    46 percent win record. It deserves nothing good. It is a losing record and deserves what someone who losses gets. All this hand out participation trophy generation.



  • swfcfan89
    1364 posts Professional
    I wish we could go back to the days where all you'd get from playing games was coins from the match and rubbish tournament rewards if you were any good, then you'd be grateful that you can now just play a bunch of games and have stacked teams full of special cards.
  • Torn4do
    1319 posts Professional
    Fifapayne wrote: »
    Mmandras wrote: »
    G3 and S1 players should not have even a possibility to get top red card.

    I don't agree at all. It's hard as hell to achieve G3! After S1 you keep encountering god squads and drag back spammers that are very hard to defend against.

    And I think 90% of "elite" WL players cheat to get to that. I am positive now that majority of guys even on this forum use disconnect glitch. I think it is golden standard for "elite" players and nobody talks about it because they are affraid EA will take more serious action.

    As such the whole WL system is one big scam and EA is not to blame except in the way they are uninterested or uncompetent to solve it.
    Give me a break lol

    G3 is 14/30
    46 percent win record. It deserves nothing good. It is a losing record and deserves what someone who losses gets. All this hand out participation trophy generation.



    What if you finish 14-3
  • Pocketsquareguy
    8039 posts League Winner
    This is easily the least rewarding game for the time required ever made.
  • Fifapayne
    7848 posts League Winner
    Torn4do wrote: »
    Fifapayne wrote: »
    Mmandras wrote: »
    G3 and S1 players should not have even a possibility to get top red card.

    I don't agree at all. It's hard as hell to achieve G3! After S1 you keep encountering god squads and drag back spammers that are very hard to defend against.

    And I think 90% of "elite" WL players cheat to get to that. I am positive now that majority of guys even on this forum use disconnect glitch. I think it is golden standard for "elite" players and nobody talks about it because they are affraid EA will take more serious action.

    As such the whole WL system is one big scam and EA is not to blame except in the way they are uninterested or uncompetent to solve it.
    Give me a break lol

    G3 is 14/30
    46 percent win record. It deserves nothing good. It is a losing record and deserves what someone who losses gets. All this hand out participation trophy generation.



    What if you finish 14-3

    G3 is G3
    You should be capped
    Give people a reason to finish.

    Example
    G3 capped at 85 or lower reds

    Elite is rated 81+
    Or something

    Monthly rewards We’re almost guaranteed something good. It would be cool to have weekly and monthly ..keep weekly random and make monthly elite 86+ or something
  • TheTormentor07
    1591 posts Play-Off Hero
    This is why I've stopped playing after an horrid silver 2 finish last week with 10 wins struggling through some of the worst gameplay I've ever had in any Fifa I've just given up, no motivation to gain the 1000 points to qualify as rivals is the most hateful mode in the game, finally after 10 years I'm done and can have my weekends back.
    Brought both Shadowkeep for Destiny 2 & No Mans Sky with crimbo money and they are both head & shoulders above this awful waste of time I never thought I'd stop but I see no reason to grind a game I hate for no reward when I could be doing something I actually enjoy.
  • Torn4do
    1319 posts Professional
    Fifapayne wrote: »
    Torn4do wrote: »
    Fifapayne wrote: »
    Mmandras wrote: »
    G3 and S1 players should not have even a possibility to get top red card.

    I don't agree at all. It's hard as hell to achieve G3! After S1 you keep encountering god squads and drag back spammers that are very hard to defend against.

    And I think 90% of "elite" WL players cheat to get to that. I am positive now that majority of guys even on this forum use disconnect glitch. I think it is golden standard for "elite" players and nobody talks about it because they are affraid EA will take more serious action.

    As such the whole WL system is one big scam and EA is not to blame except in the way they are uninterested or uncompetent to solve it.
    Give me a break lol

    G3 is 14/30
    46 percent win record. It deserves nothing good. It is a losing record and deserves what someone who losses gets. All this hand out participation trophy generation.



    What if you finish 14-3

    G3 is G3
    You should be capped
    Give people a reason to finish.

    Example
    G3 capped at 85 or lower reds

    Elite is rated 81+
    Or something

    Monthly rewards We’re almost guaranteed something good. It would be cool to have weekly and monthly ..keep weekly random and make monthly elite 86+ or something

    If you cap rewards all you’d have is elite and top 100 playing as no one would bother, then you’d end up with Elite players dropping into gold rewards as there are no lower skilled players playing anymore, then there would be even more people moaning and dropping out until there are no one left playing!
  • Fifapayne
    7848 posts League Winner
    Then don’t cap it but give elite a minimum.
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