This game is dead from monday to thursday. Please do something about it.

protzbischof
3389 posts National Call-Up
Rivals is just painful to play. With every win you get the games are getting more toxic. Every rivals game is as sweaty as your last game in Fut Champions. This game needs casual game modes and please dont mention those online friendlies. Give us cups during the week or something.

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  • EA_Andy
    3378 posts EA Staff (retired)
    Out of interest what's wrong with friendlies as a more casual way to play?

    What makes tournaments better?
  • protzbischof
    3389 posts National Call-Up
    There is nothing wrong with a little bit of competition. But Rivals is just overkill. The gold cups have been a very great mix of casual games and small rewards and the games getting a bit harder as you progress to the final. Getting a little pack or even a player to unlock for a win was so fun. A steady gold cup and maybe a weekly cup with updated rules and limitations would go a long way. You could even combine it with objectives like Icon tokens or Storyline players. I can not even tell you how happy it would make me to be able to play cups again. Please :)
  • Jonx88
    1002 posts Professional
    edited November 2019
    EA_Andy wrote: »
    Out of interest what's wrong with friendlies as a more casual way to play?

    What makes tournaments better?

    Out of interest why are objectives not in friendlies as this is a casual mode as opposed to the competitive rivals mode which leads to people dropping divisions to complete them and completely breaking the point of the game mode?

    What makes Rivals the better option?
  • Raider
    3759 posts National Call-Up
    gotta agree, rivals is more competitive than weekend league, hence constantly playing players around your skill rating, and yet the rewards are a joke. imo fut champs and rivals should be merged somehow, I like the idea of tournaments, even themed tournaments were fun back in the days where we had to use silvers or irish
  • protzbischof
    3389 posts National Call-Up
    To say it more simple we have 2 pure competitive game modes and a gamemode without any competition. Something in between would be very healthy for the game.
  • ironawin1
    1320 posts Professional
    Jonx88 wrote: »
    EA_Andy wrote: »
    Out of interest what's wrong with friendlies as a more casual way to play?

    What makes tournaments better?

    Out of interest why are objectives not in friendlies as this is a casual mode as opposed to the competitive rivals mode which leads to people dropping divisions to complete them and completely breaking the point of the game mode?

    What makes Rivals the better option?

    This! Damn EA
  • BadSeedsFC
    3179 posts National Call-Up
    I miss those cups with TOTS as a reward :'(
  • Grezzerk
    1699 posts Play-Off Hero
    Jonx88 wrote: »
    EA_Andy wrote: »
    Out of interest what's wrong with friendlies as a more casual way to play?

    What makes tournaments better?

    Out of interest why are objectives not in friendlies as this is a casual mode as opposed to the competitive rivals mode which leads to people dropping divisions to complete them and completely breaking the point of the game mode?

    What makes Rivals the better option?

    Because if they was in friendlies then the vast majority of this community would just message the other player to let them score and do the challenge as easily as possible. In rivals although you’ll come across some players that will allow you to score loads of goals for challenge a lot of players you meet won’t and that’s how it should be.
    The objectives should be challenging and the only way to keep them challenging is by keeping them on rivals.
    The politano season objective player for example would be completed in 6 games in friendlies as everyone would just be gifted goals. What’s the point in them releasing a player for objectives if the community would just exploit it to get the players as easily as possible. Where the grind/challenge in that?
  • SimoHayha-TR-
    34 posts Last Pick at the Park
    I would like to play with silver or bronze squad.These special tournaments was fun in fifa 12. Game becomes boring to play against similar teams every day.
  • PegLeg
    952 posts Semi-Pro
    EA_Andy wrote: »
    Out of interest what's wrong with friendlies as a more casual way to play?

    What makes tournaments better?

    @EA_Andy
    Tournaments had restrictions on the teams you could use (e.g. 11 silvers, max rating, nationality/leagues etc). For objectives which require you to use teams with similar restrictions but in the main competitive game mode against people who are using their main squad. This results in...

    1) higher division players self-relegating to make the objectives easier, thus distorting match making
    2) genuinely getting relegated because you're using a terrible team against other more competitive ones
    3) people colluding to complete the objectives

    Having tournaments with restricted entry criteria is an effective balance between competitive games (as there are additional rewards for being successful in a tournament) without distorting the main competitive rivals mode. You're always playing against people with comparable teams. Friendlies, whilst probably more casual, are far less engaging
  • PegLeg
    952 posts Semi-Pro
    @EA_Andy
    Just to add actually, Gran Turismo Sport is a good example of where this sort of stuff has worked well. Each day there are (or were, not sure if it's still the same, haven't played in a while) three different races with specific limits on the cars which can be used. It's balanced because you haven't got a Ferrari (Messi) coming up against a Fiat (random silver player). It's engaging because it's regular content with rewards which allow you to build towards the car you want. And it doesn't interfere with the ultra-competitive modes. Tie something like that into the objectives in FUT and it would be much better
  • cheeseyrust
    262 posts Sunday League Hero
    Bring in cups where you use bronze or silver teams to earn , prime and rare gold packs.
    Make players use the other cards instead of gold teams all the time , even have national silver and bronze cups to go with certain leagues.
    Maybe the transfer market will come to life for those players who are not gold.
  • EA_Andy
    3378 posts EA Staff (retired)
    Nice feedback, keep it coming! Thanks.
  • protzbischof
    3389 posts National Call-Up
    EA_Andy wrote: »
    Nice feedback, keep it coming! Thanks.

    Thanks for listening !
  • Ash2442
    333 posts Sunday League Hero
    Grezzerk wrote: »
    Jonx88 wrote: »
    EA_Andy wrote: »
    Out of interest what's wrong with friendlies as a more casual way to play?

    What makes tournaments better?

    Out of interest why are objectives not in friendlies as this is a casual mode as opposed to the competitive rivals mode which leads to people dropping divisions to complete them and completely breaking the point of the game mode?

    What makes Rivals the better option?

    Because if they was in friendlies then the vast majority of this community would just message the other player to let them score and do the challenge as easily as possible. In rivals although you’ll come across some players that will allow you to score loads of goals for challenge a lot of players you meet won’t and that’s how it should be.
    The objectives should be challenging and the only way to keep them challenging is by keeping them on rivals.
    The politano season objective player for example would be completed in 6 games in friendlies as everyone would just be gifted goals. What’s the point in them releasing a player for objectives if the community would just exploit it to get the players as easily as possible. Where the grind/challenge in that?

    Why should it matter to EA if the friendlies scenario you mentioned happens? People are still playing the game which is what they want. If you want to grind play rivals or fut champs...not everything has to be a grind does it?

    And let’s be honest the objectives aren’t challenging. Score a goal with x player in rivals...is not a challenge. It is designed to get people playing the game modes which is why some objectives take place in friendlies. If you can do some then you can do all.

    The problem hosting challenges in rivals such as players relegating themselves or how toxic and sweaty it gets is far greater that people messaging each other for wins.

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