Let’s talk about WL games (amount)

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  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY WL OR ALL 30 GAMES.
  • FCBlunt
    3123 posts National Call-Up
    Thunder001 wrote: »
    YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY WL OR ALL 30 GAMES.

    OKAY
  • maximilson
    977 posts Professional
    Just extend it untill monday evening. 3-4 hours a day may not seem much but there's a lot of people out there (including myself)who have a fulltime job and who like to spend some time with gf/wife and/or kids during the weekend. Sometimes you're away for the day so you'll have to make up the time somewhere else.

    When I play WL (like once a month), I mostly grind out the games in 1 full day and thats because I want to have some spare time in the other days. I dont enjoy doing this but theres no other way if I want some decent rewards.

    Why not change the format like SB? 1 whole week or 4 or 5 days to grind out 30 games (tuesday or wednesday untill sunday for example) on your own pace shouldnt be too hard to create.
  • FCBlunt wrote: »
    FCBlunt wrote: »
    30 games.

    We know that match halfs last 6 minutes, but adding all the time eaters, a game usually lasts between 15-20min.
    So..

    30x20(min)
    600/60(min)
    10 **** hours.
    That’s 3,3 hours a day across the weekend.
    Feel free to call me out on the math if I messed it up

    What I suggest is to add another day, so people with lives can actually finish the damn games. I never finished all 30, I just don’t have the time or energy to play so many games a day.

    It’s not like an imitation of any big cup/league IRL either. Oh grats, you qualified for the UCL. We’ll fill 10 games into your schedule tomorrow.
    Happy hunting.

    Look I understand not everyone can go 30-0, but adding a day to WL wouldn’t change that.


    Tl;dr - I rant about 30 games in 3 days, give us 4 days ****



    What’s your thoughts? Are you okay with the current system or nah?

    In fairness they listened when we moaned about 40 games.

    Now it's 30. That is 10 Games Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
    Reasonable.

    Also it's the most competitive mode in Fifa so you are either wanting to play it and do well or don't have time for it.
    Orison wrote: »
    30 is fine. I can finish that in about 7 hours of pure gameplay considering the amount of quits I get. I have seen people finishing it in 4 hours on a sunday evening (including breaks and everything).

    Wl got other problems such as not being able to recover a loss so every single game got way too much importance. Or a win against a pro being worth as much as a win against little johnny down the road who you smash 10-0 which gives great incentive to dodge all good players. Or there not being a dc protection (lets say you dc, the game pauses and you got that one pause of 30/40secs to rejoin. Most people somehow dc without their internet or anything dropping).

    The amount of games isn't really a problem compared to those.

    I think the other people who replied to the thread really shows that, there’s reason to extend the WL.

    We currently have a majority of people in this thread saying it’s too much.

    Sure, 30 games isn’t much when you have no responsebilities in your life. We’re however some people that have stuff to do, places to be, people to see. So it would benefit us, and do no harm to your game at all.

    And I agree, there’s a lot of issues with WL, Orison. I just don’t see them fixing them without doing a major rework of the mode itself.
    So while they’re at that, they can add a day to please everyone who lacks time.

    Then we’re all happy, yeah?

    Another reduction won't work. PS4 had 82 30-0s last weekend. With 25 games you would have 120-150 perfect records. Another reduction would do more harm than good.

    30 in 3 days is fine considering that only the "hardcore" players are supposed to finish all 30 games.

    In a perfect world WL rewards would get added to rivals and you could play as many games you wanted while trying to achieve rewards.
  • Seandimes
    3453 posts National Call-Up
    FCBlunt wrote: »
    Seandimes wrote: »
    FCBlunt wrote: »
    FCBlunt wrote: »
    30 games.

    We know that match halfs last 6 minutes, but adding all the time eaters, a game usually lasts between 15-20min.
    So..

    30x20(min)
    600/60(min)
    10 **** hours.
    That’s 3,3 hours a day across the weekend.
    Feel free to call me out on the math if I messed it up

    What I suggest is to add another day, so people with lives can actually finish the damn games. I never finished all 30, I just don’t have the time or energy to play so many games a day.

    It’s not like an imitation of any big cup/league IRL either. Oh grats, you qualified for the UCL. We’ll fill 10 games into your schedule tomorrow.
    Happy hunting.

    Look I understand not everyone can go 30-0, but adding a day to WL wouldn’t change that.


    Tl;dr - I rant about 30 games in 3 days, give us 4 days ****



    What’s your thoughts? Are you okay with the current system or nah?

    In fairness they listened when we moaned about 40 games.

    Now it's 30. That is 10 Games Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
    Reasonable.

    Also it's the most competitive mode in Fifa so you are either wanting to play it and do well or don't have time for it.
    Orison wrote: »
    30 is fine. I can finish that in about 7 hours of pure gameplay considering the amount of quits I get. I have seen people finishing it in 4 hours on a sunday evening (including breaks and everything).

    Wl got other problems such as not being able to recover a loss so every single game got way too much importance. Or a win against a pro being worth as much as a win against little johnny down the road who you smash 10-0 which gives great incentive to dodge all good players. Or there not being a dc protection (lets say you dc, the game pauses and you got that one pause of 30/40secs to rejoin. Most people somehow dc without their internet or anything dropping).

    The amount of games isn't really a problem compared to those.

    I think the other people who replied to the thread really shows that, there’s reason to extend the WL.

    We currently have a majority of people in this thread saying it’s too much.

    Sure, 30 games isn’t much when you have no responsebilities in your life. We’re however some people that have stuff to do, places to be, people to see. So it would benefit us, and do no harm to your game at all.

    And I agree, there’s a lot of issues with WL, Orison. I just don’t see them fixing them without doing a major rework of the mode itself.
    So while they’re at that, they can add a day to please everyone who lacks time.

    Then we’re all happy, yeah?

    One argument to not extend it is matchmaking. Leaving the obvious flaws with the current matchmaking aside. Especially for the Elite players, it would be hard to find equal opponents, the longer the WL is stretched out.

    That’s a great arguement.

    It’s obviously something that needs to get sorted. The pros have been matchfixing since last year, hell if I know it haven’t been happening all throughout WL’s life.
    Maybe it’s just time to completely reinvent WL.

    EA haven’t responded to the complaints about this? Have they?



    To be honest, the whole WL system is completely flawed. There is absolutely no need for two competitive modes in the same game.
    You could solve so many problems by just making Rivals the only competitive mode. Move WL rewards to rivals, and tie them to your rating. To prevent people from not playing cause they are afraid to lose their rating, tie the rewards to the highest rating you achieved this week, even if you drop below it afterwards. Have people lose a lot, and gain little rating points if they play against people way below their own skill level.
    Move the objectives to friendlies, where they belong

    Instantly a lot of the problems we have now, like pros dodging each other, people dropping down to lower divisions for objectives, and of course the time constraint of WL, would be fixed.
  • mway
    2186 posts Fans' Favourite
    Orison wrote: »
    Another reduction won't work. PS4 had 82 30-0s last weekend. With 25 games you would have 120-150 perfect records. Another reduction would do more harm than good.

    20 games is enough. If you win 10 you qualify to next Champions, if you win 15 you have the right to play 5 more and if you win 20 you have the right to play 10 more.
  • Orison
    77835 posts Icon
    edited October 2019
    mway wrote: »
    Orison wrote: »
    Another reduction won't work. PS4 had 82 30-0s last weekend. With 25 games you would have 120-150 perfect records. Another reduction would do more harm than good.

    20 games is enough. If you win 10 you qualify to next Champions, if you win 15 you have the right to play 5 more and if you win 20 you have the right to play 10 more.

    Might as well leave it at 30 at that point lol.

    If you wanted good rewards you would still have to play all 30 then.
  • Nervous_Nick
    7222 posts League Winner
    25 or 30 in 4 days
  • gorillabear
    1055 posts Professional
    edited October 2019
    Orison wrote: »
    FCBlunt wrote: »

    Another reduction won't work. PS4 had 82 30-0s last weekend. With 25 games you would have 120-150 perfect records. Another reduction would do more harm than good.

    Is there a downside to 40 extra people having perfect records?
  • mway
    2186 posts Fans' Favourite
    Orison wrote: »
    Might as well leave it at 30 at that point lol.
    If you wanted good rewards you would still have to play all 30 then.

    Sure for hardcore gamers. The rest of us could just try to win 10 and get the same rewards than GOLD 3. On the other hand, the final matches will be between people really fighting for becoming the best one. This way you split hardcore gamers for others that don´t have so much time and would like some nice rewards winning just 10 of 20.
  • mway wrote: »
    Orison wrote: »
    Might as well leave it at 30 at that point lol.
    If you wanted good rewards you would still have to play all 30 then.

    Sure for hardcore gamers. The rest of us could just try to win 10 and get the same rewards than GOLD 3. On the other hand, the final matches will be between people really fighting for becoming the best one. This way you split hardcore gamers for others that don´t have so much time and would like some nice rewards winning just 10 of 20.

    None of this makes sense really. The point is not to get rewards for even less games.

    You talked about auto qualification. That's now at 11 wins and you would want to drop it to 10. Has nothing to do with Gold 3.
  • mway
    2186 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited October 2019
    Orison wrote: »
    None of this makes sense really. The point is not to get rewards for even less games.
    You talked about auto qualification. That's now at 11 wins and you would want to drop it to 10. Has nothing to do with Gold 3.

    Reaching 10 in 20 will be more difficult than 14 in 30. For those that don´t want to play so many games the 20 matches will be a challenge. If you win 15 you play 5 more and if you reach 20 you play 10 more to decide the best. It´s like F1 qualification, there is no need to keep slowest cars running with the fastest for the P1. With this you will also decrease servers demand.
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