The Football thread featuring COVID-19: Barcelolna

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  • ccooaattssyy
    15694 posts World Class
    Alternative title: Remember when Pogba was not overrated?



    Vidal Pirlo Pogba Marchisio was a saucy midfield.
  • Alemas_2012
    20479 posts Club Captain
    edited April 2020
    Alternative title: Remember when Pogba was not overrated?



    Vidal Pirlo Pogba Marchisio was a saucy midfield.

    It's funny that despite the several millions pumped into our squad since then, we've struggled to match a midfield that cost... 12.5 million, the amount Vidal cost. :joy:
    Pirlo and Pogba were free, Marchisio came from our youth system. :D
    Pjanic, by comparison, cost 32 million...
  • Kennyy
    7002 posts Big Money Move
    Thoughts on footballers taking a 30% pay cut?

    That’s a lot of tax lost (if they were paying it)
  • hoban95
    61787 posts Icon
    Alternative title: Remember when Pogba was not overrated?

    Colo99 <3
  • ORANGEeffect05
    27427 posts Player of the Year
    Alternative title: Remember when Pogba was not overrated?

    Then people said how overrated he was after watching him for the first time in that CL final. They expected him to run the show from LCM against a right side including Messi and Dani Alves :neutral:
  • jenksiee123
    24476 posts Club Captain
    Kennyy wrote: »
    Thoughts on footballers taking a 30% pay cut?

    That’s a lot of tax lost (if they were paying it)

    It's a tough one and don't think a lot who are hounding them to take one realise how much tax would be lost.
  • Alemas_2012
    20479 posts Club Captain
    edited April 2020
    Alternative title: Remember when Pogba was not overrated?

    Then people said how overrated he was after watching him for the first time in that CL final. They expected him to run the show from LCM against a right side including Messi and Dani Alves :neutral:

    I don't clearly recall his performance there, but something tells me he was more concerned with keeping those two in check rather than showing off. :D
    Think the "overrated" tag came with his Manchester move more than anything.
    His performances were dropping off towards the end of his last season for us, he even admitted after the Coppa Italia final that he didn't do great in that match, but he was still some player.
    The overall feeling I get with him is that he'd still be very capable of being "Europe's best midfielder"... but only if he can be bothered. :D It's more a mentality thing with him.
    The talent's there, the skills are there, the physique's there... head, maybe not all that there.
  • ORANGEeffect05
    27427 posts Player of the Year
    Mate said he was watching a classic Bundesliga match where Grafite-Dzeko was too much for Bayern to handle. What a partnership that was for a couple seasons.
  • Maverick
    7928 posts League Winner
    I'm not savvy with numbers so unsure of the tax cost and other behind the scene factors we don't know about, but looking at it from my POV, both Liverpool and these footballers not taking pay cuts look bad here.
  • Kennyy
    7002 posts Big Money Move
    Maverick wrote: »
    I'm not savvy with numbers so unsure of the tax cost and other behind the scene factors we don't know about, but looking at it from my POV, both Liverpool and these footballers not taking pay cuts look bad here.

    PFA are estimating £200m in taxes lost if they take the cut.

  • Maverick
    7928 posts League Winner
    Kennyy wrote: »
    Maverick wrote: »
    I'm not savvy with numbers so unsure of the tax cost and other behind the scene factors we don't know about, but looking at it from my POV, both Liverpool and these footballers not taking pay cuts look bad here.

    PFA are estimating £200m in taxes lost if they take the cut.

    Forgive me but what does that mean exactly? The PFA will have to pay about 200m in taxes at the end of the year?
  • Kennyy
    7002 posts Big Money Move
    Maverick wrote: »
    Kennyy wrote: »
    Maverick wrote: »
    I'm not savvy with numbers so unsure of the tax cost and other behind the scene factors we don't know about, but looking at it from my POV, both Liverpool and these footballers not taking pay cuts look bad here.

    PFA are estimating £200m in taxes lost if they take the cut.

    Forgive me but what does that mean exactly? The PFA will have to pay about 200m in taxes at the end of the year?

    No the PFA are estimating that the government will lose out on taxes up to £200mil if players take a 30% pay cut.


  • arsenalap
    9523 posts League Winner
    Kennyy wrote: »
    Maverick wrote: »
    Kennyy wrote: »
    Maverick wrote: »
    I'm not savvy with numbers so unsure of the tax cost and other behind the scene factors we don't know about, but looking at it from my POV, both Liverpool and these footballers not taking pay cuts look bad here.

    PFA are estimating £200m in taxes lost if they take the cut.

    Forgive me but what does that mean exactly? The PFA will have to pay about 200m in taxes at the end of the year?

    No the PFA are estimating that the government will lose out on taxes up to £200mil if players take a 30% pay cut.


    Yh it's a lot but if it covers all the clubs staff costs then its better than using the gov money.
  • Kennyy
    7002 posts Big Money Move
    arsenalap wrote: »
    Kennyy wrote: »
    Maverick wrote: »
    Kennyy wrote: »
    Maverick wrote: »
    I'm not savvy with numbers so unsure of the tax cost and other behind the scene factors we don't know about, but looking at it from my POV, both Liverpool and these footballers not taking pay cuts look bad here.

    PFA are estimating £200m in taxes lost if they take the cut.

    Forgive me but what does that mean exactly? The PFA will have to pay about 200m in taxes at the end of the year?

    No the PFA are estimating that the government will lose out on taxes up to £200mil if players take a 30% pay cut.


    Yh it's a lot but if it covers all the clubs staff costs then its better than using the gov money.

    Better that the government receive less money than it is using the governments money?
  • arsenalap
    9523 posts League Winner
    Kennyy wrote: »
    arsenalap wrote: »
    Kennyy wrote: »
    Maverick wrote: »
    Kennyy wrote: »
    Maverick wrote: »
    I'm not savvy with numbers so unsure of the tax cost and other behind the scene factors we don't know about, but looking at it from my POV, both Liverpool and these footballers not taking pay cuts look bad here.

    PFA are estimating £200m in taxes lost if they take the cut.

    Forgive me but what does that mean exactly? The PFA will have to pay about 200m in taxes at the end of the year?

    No the PFA are estimating that the government will lose out on taxes up to £200mil if players take a 30% pay cut.


    Yh it's a lot but if it covers all the clubs staff costs then its better than using the gov money.

    Better that the government receive less money than it is using the governments money?

    No I'm saying they'll be a medium point where taking a salary cut and using that money to pay staff will outweigh the tax doing the same thing imo.

    It all depends on which players fall into which tax brackets so its complicated to be fair.
  • ccooaattssyy
    15694 posts World Class
    edited April 2020
    I think the players and clubs can have a massive positive impact, in a pretty terrible global situation to be honest.

    Not sure that’s really happened yet.
  • Reus
    23526 posts Club Captain
    Instead of the media pressuring footballers into taking pay cuts they should be questioning why all of our social and emergency services are so tragically underfunded in the first place
  • LFC Simon 98
    21242 posts Club Captain
    Don’t defend Liverpool and don’t agree with the stance at all.

    Then again Liverpool doing something to hurt the British government... not exactly a shock is it.
  • Tornado31619
    25981 posts Player of the Year
    Alternative title: Remember when Pogba was not overrated?

    Then people said how overrated he was after watching him for the first time in that CL final. They expected him to run the show from LCM against a right side including Messi and Dani Alves :neutral:

    I don't clearly recall his performance there, but something tells me he was more concerned with keeping those two in check rather than showing off. :D
    Think the "overrated" tag came with his Manchester move more than anything.
    His performances were dropping off towards the end of his last season for us, he even admitted after the Coppa Italia final that he didn't do great in that match, but he was still some player.
    The overall feeling I get with him is that he'd still be very capable of being "Europe's best midfielder"... but only if he can be bothered. :D It's more a mentality thing with him.
    The talent's there, the skills are there, the physique's there... head, maybe not all that there.

    It's mainly been the price tag and Raiola's ❤️❤️❤️❤️.
    Don’t defend Liverpool and don’t agree with the stance at all.

    Then again Liverpool doing something to hurt the British government... not exactly a shock is it.

    Two wrongs don't make a right. I know that you disagree with their stance, but surely they can't be that petty. If they're letting the past cloud their judgement when over 600 people a day are dying, then that's far more than "negligence".
  • Tornado31619
    25981 posts Player of the Year
    Okay, I don't generally mind the guy but what the ❤️❤️❤️❤️
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52161529
  • Arsenalfan97
    8706 posts League Winner
    We are assuming footballers are properly paying their takes here. I’d guess around half are maybe paying their taxes properly and aren’t using loopholes. I swear even wenger was caught using a tax loophole can’t quite remember exactly what it was though.
  • Pietu
    8729 posts League Winner
    Let's be honest, all billionaires should donate a chunk of money, every single one of those greedy ❤️❤️❤️❤️.
  • Reus
    23526 posts Club Captain
    edited April 2020
    Pietu wrote: »
    Let's be honest, all billionaires should donate a chunk of money, every single one of those greedy ❤️❤️❤️❤️.

    Or maybe we should just tax them properly

    Start by raising corporation tax
  • hoban95
    61787 posts Icon
    No not another England player...


    Well i say England player loosely :D
  • hoban95
    61787 posts Icon
    I'm not sure this is the time for those comments. Football in this country is looking worse by the day.
  • Mackie17
    8565 posts League Winner
    McLean is an absolute bell end. I could find a thousand more obnoxious, biggotted and stupid from that twunt
  • arsenalap
    9523 posts League Winner
    McLean is known to be an absolute idiot anyway
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