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Why buying FIFA 20 is OK vs Microtransactions

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lIlIlIlIlIl
3973 posts National Call-Up
Even though i'd imagine that at least half of those who swear against buying FIFA20 will eventually cave, people need to understand that buying the game isn't a sacrilegious breach of covenant between the unsettled community and EA; nor should it be subject to the constant nagging threat of the wagging finger of sanctimonious judgment. I deplore the recent compilation of hypocritical individuals who were exposed for buying FIFA19 against their vow; a list with the sole intent to elicit condemnation and shame. And it's not helping.
(https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/comment/8878535#Comment_8878535)


The single biggest problem with FIFA is microtransactions, people. Due to their extremely lucrative nature, microtransactions dictate the direction of this game. You vote with your wallet and thus any spendings on in-game currency suggest an inherent satisfaction with certain substructures of the game; namely pay-to-win, card collecting, gambling, meta-gaming menu content (such as: trading, sbcs...). EAs telemetry (which is a fancy word for spyware) allows them to datamine and procure your entire habitual network, including your shopping patterns, which then allows them to tailor the game to the most favoured common denominator in order to maximize their profits.

a. During this past decade we have observed a gradual shift from a focal point on (casual) gameplay with fair monetization, to recent years cut-throat competitive arms race fueled by pay-to-win mechanics and extortionate in-game shop fees-- often through abysmal pack weights. I would argue that 2019 has been an experimental year for EA. Through this mictotransactional brinkmanship-perhaps due to the looming threat of gambling regulations-they have pushed the envelope like never before. The glaring absence of a casual mode comes to mind. Was this a deliberate ploy to gouge every last bit of profit before a potential shutdown by turning the game into a hyper-competitive p2w fest?

b. The menu/casino content takes precedence over gameplay. This peculiar phenomenon is ubiquitous on every streaming platform but is in all probability unique to FIFA. - I cannot name any other game where people in droves exhibit a feverish predilection for meta-content (a harmful at that) over actual gameplay. This is actually very scary. Think about what's going on here. Through addiction, wily deception and shift in priority, a gaming enterprise has manipulated you into thinking that you still need FIFA - even though the current game is merely a shadow of its past and likely doesn't satisfy your needs. But it makes you think that you need it - by quenching your thirst for mediated dopaminergic circuitry (read: incentive reward; the same circuitry that mediates reward as a consequence of drug abuse). What this essentially means is that, there are certain short-term activities that are pleasurable enough, such as pack openings, so they intrinsically produce a dopamine kick and thus provide you with instantenous gratification (like when eating when you're hungry). EA exploits that unscrupulously, even in children.


So consider this: what are you really buying here? Are you buying into a football-themed casino or a game of football? If it's the latter, then abstain from splurging on FUT.

Comments

  • iRusty_yo
    3981 posts National Call-Up
    TL;DR

    But yeah, from the time alone I agree
  • WarrenBarton
    9877 posts League Winner
    I would agree it’s definitely a football themed casino style game.

    The enthusiasm for fut lowers for me every year. Will be buying it for pro clubs though so I will get drawn back into fut for sure.
  • Pieman25
    17086 posts World Class
    They're buying whatever they choose, make your own decision instead of posting this scrap. It just screams of vendetta in all honesty and I'm guessing won't change 1 persons opinion.
  • OfficerJimlahey
    1843 posts Play-Off Hero
    For me the fix is simple. By fifa but don’t play ultimate team. You can get your football fix from seasons. It’s more realistic and there is no grinding involved. Ultimate team has well and truly gone to the dogs
  • FCBlunt
    3111 posts National Call-Up
    I dont think people should buy Fifa 20, and I have the right to both think and say it.

    Do what you want, but if you dont want to be part of the problem, dont buy the effin game.
    This thread sounds more like you trying to convince yourself of some good reasons to buy the game, after being butt ❤️❤️❤️❤️ all year

    Good luck with it, lad.
  • lIlIlIlIlIl
    3973 posts National Call-Up
    For me the fix is simple. By fifa but don’t play ultimate team. You can get your football fix from seasons. It’s more realistic and there is no grinding involved. Ultimate team has well and truly gone to the dogs

    I agree with this. There is more to the game than FUT but it's totally feasible to amass a pretty penny through trading. It's paramount to not give in to the temptation of microtransactions.
    FCBlunt wrote: »
    I dont think people should buy Fifa 20, and I have the right to both think and say it.

    Do what you want, but if you dont want to be part of the problem, dont buy the effin game.
    This thread sounds more like you trying to convince yourself of some good reasons to buy the game, after being butt **** all year

    Good luck with it, lad.

    I'm not questioning your rights. I don't see buying the game as being part of the problem, as i've explained initially. Now I don't know why you'd think that, but to me it's clear as day that ever growing microtransactions is the poison.
  • FCBlunt
    3111 posts National Call-Up
    For me the fix is simple. By fifa but don’t play ultimate team. You can get your football fix from seasons. It’s more realistic and there is no grinding involved. Ultimate team has well and truly gone to the dogs

    I agree with this. There is more to the game than FUT but it's totally feasible to amass a pretty penny through trading. It's paramount to not give in to the temptation of microtransactions.
    FCBlunt wrote: »
    I dont think people should buy Fifa 20, and I have the right to both think and say it.

    Do what you want, but if you dont want to be part of the problem, dont buy the effin game.
    This thread sounds more like you trying to convince yourself of some good reasons to buy the game, after being butt **** all year

    Good luck with it, lad.

    I'm not questioning your rights. I don't see buying the game as being part of the problem, as i've explained initially. Now I don't know why you'd think that, but to me it's clear as day that ever growing microtransactions is the poison.

    I’ll agree with you to some extent, but buying the game will still profit EA. So either way, they’ll never really learn. *sadface*
  • Thefranchise92
    4209 posts National Call-Up
    Totally agree. Imo buy the game of course we all love football and fut. But if you do dumb sbcs that arent wortth it and spends 1000s on micro transactions you lose your right to complain.

    Your basically saying the gsme is ❤️❤️❤️❤️ but heres all my disposable income. Its like going to a restaurant being completely dissatisfied with the food and leaving a massive generous tip
  • Fifa_Hawk_85
    14842 posts World Class
    FCBlunt wrote: »
    I dont think people should buy Fifa 20, and I have the right to both think and say it.

    Do what you want, but if you dont want to be part of the problem, dont buy the effin game.
    This thread sounds more like you trying to convince yourself of some good reasons to buy the game, after being butt **** all year

    Good luck with it, lad.

    This is my thoughts exactly. Some people think buying the game but not buying FPs is taking a stand against EA when in reality it's praising them for their previous year's work.

    I definitely won't be buying the game as I don't want to be a part of the problem any longer but it's upto everyone to make their own mind up about how they want to go forward with this game. All I can say though is if you suffered with delayed and unresponsive gameplay this year then you would be mad to buy FIFA 20.

    That's just my opinion on the matter anyway.
  • only the stupid will buy into any more stupid game !! I always thought it was stupid why a
    plus 1 upgrade and people are there going wow - stupid game for stupid ppl - this is stupid 20 !!! not Fifa 20
  • Azof
    17624 posts World Class
    lukey2007 wrote: »
    only the stupid will buy into any more stupid game !! I always thought it was stupid why a
    plus 1 upgrade and people are there going wow - stupid game for stupid ppl - this is stupid 20 !!! not Fifa 20

    You really have a way with words.
  • Diggy
    14205 posts Has That Special Something
    What a load of unnecessary waffle
  • Anarki301
    353 posts Sunday League Hero
    Not convinced, I think number one problem with this game is people buying the game in the first place, I just don't understand why are we keep buying this crap game
  • madwullie
    6429 posts Big Money Move
    Buying the game goes directly into their units sold column, which is statistically as important to them as microtransactions, although the latter are what allows them to burn their 50s in front of homeless people.
  • Damo_Suzuki
    2054 posts Fans' Favourite
    I said i wouldnt buy 19 then i did. I really 100% won't buy this one. It's not even to do with a protest against EA. It's because playing a game that doesn't function properly and allows the lesser player to win due to massive button delay and broken mechanics is absolute madness. Especially when you know it takes hours and hours worth of grinding for you to then just be crippled.

    Investing massive amounts of time in to something that leaves you feeling frustrated and cheated and then repeating the same thing next week is crazy.

    I don't think anyone should buy it. I think it is the most manipulative and negative 'game' that exists. So glad i'm done with it.
  • Alex_cr
    5800 posts Big Money Move
    Look out, Joey’s back.
  • Dramacydal
    303 posts Sunday League Hero
    Anarki301 wrote: »
    Not convinced, I think number one problem with this game is people buying the game in the first place, I just don't understand why are we keep buying this crap game

    All this talk about buying Fifa or not every year. Buy it dont buy it.EA dont care. When EA purchased the NFL I played NFL2k series every year.After the deal I vowed to never buy a Football game again,15 years later i haven't.And never will again.Many others have done so aswell. Did Madden die? Did it cry about bad Sales? No ofcourse not. For every few players that quit some youngs kid just fell in love with Football/Soccer and they want to try out FIFA. I know theirs PES but if you look on the Net you get blasted with FIFA ads. Aslong as their is no real competition this will go on.Konami is to small to become a real threat.Someone like Microsoft would need to buy Konami and then stick all their money into Licenses to make it happen. And i dont mean to down you for your opinion.Im simply trying to let people know you are not gonna change anyting major about this game.
  • Davola77
    389 posts Sunday League Hero
    Not buying it this year for endless reasons such as bugs that haven’t been addressed since FUT started, laggy menus, unresponsive gameplay, constant SBC issues, overpowered AI, endless money grabbing promos, one sided connection advantage etc etc etc. Anyone that buys 20 after this years debacle needs their head read because at best it will be as bad as this year.
  • Knowlesdinho
    12920 posts Has That Special Something
    I like you...you are one of the people on here that speaks sense. You should join my discord, we like sensible, reasonable people that don’t incessantly moan.
  • selb
    7138 posts Big Money Move
    I like you...you are one of the people on here that speaks sense. You should join my discord, we like sensible, reasonable people that don’t incessantly moan.

    Dont listen to this guy, all he does is moan in the discord ;)

    Jk, it's a great place to have a free and open chat
  • SupremiumHD
    38 posts Last Pick at the Park
    It's funny how badly people want to convince everyone else that they are not the problem that has led the FIFA franchise to this point. I mean just look at the title "WHY BUYING FIFA 20 IS OK VS MICROTRANSACTIONS". It's like saying "buying FIFA 20 is ok because I'm going to do so" and "buying FIFA points is bad because I don't buy them". To me it sounds the exact same as "I only bought FIFA points with 20/50/100 euros when the game was released. I'm not the problem, it's the people who spend much more than that!" I'm sorry to break the bubble but you are the problem unless you bought the game 6 months after release for a discount price of 15-20€ because EA won't get basically any profit from that. When some people say "they only bought the game" it is very possible that they mean the 100€ Super-Mega-Legends-Champions edition of the game that comes with 1 week early access, 50 "free" packs and god knows what else. I believe even the cheapest version costs like 50-60€ which is a lot more than anyone would've been ready to pay for any game 10 years ago. I'm not saying that 50-60€ is a lot but trust me it's definitely enough for EA to get a nice cut out of it. What I'm really trying to say and what the point of this message is that it doesn't matter how small amounts you think you are giving to EA, you're still giving them money and that's all what matters. Imagine if instead of being a video game company EA was a terrorist organization, would you still say that it's ok if you fund them only a little?
  • Knowlesdinho
    12920 posts Has That Special Something
    It's funny how badly people want to convince everyone else that they are not the problem that has led the FIFA franchise to this point. I mean just look at the title "WHY BUYING FIFA 20 IS OK VS MICROTRANSACTIONS". It's like saying "buying FIFA 20 is ok because I'm going to do so" and "buying FIFA points is bad because I don't buy them". To me it sounds the exact same as "I only bought FIFA points with 20/50/100 euros when the game was released. I'm not the problem, it's the people who spend much more than that!" I'm sorry to break the bubble but you are the problem unless you bought the game 6 months after release for a discount price of 15-20€ because EA won't get basically any profit from that. When some people say "they only bought the game" it is very possible that they mean the 100€ Super-Mega-Legends-Champions edition of the game that comes with 1 week early access, 50 "free" packs and god knows what else. I believe even the cheapest version costs like 50-60€ which is a lot more than anyone would've been ready to pay for any game 10 years ago. I'm not saying that 50-60€ is a lot but trust me it's definitely enough for EA to get a nice cut out of it. What I'm really trying to say and what the point of this message is that it doesn't matter how small amounts you think you are giving to EA, you're still giving them money and that's all what matters. Imagine if instead of being a video game company EA was a terrorist organization, would you still say that it's ok if you fund them only a little?

    Not comparable in any way. EA aren't using the money to traffic people, kill people, sell drugs...they are simply making profit for themselves and their shareholders...every corporation/company does the same.

    If you went into your house and removed everything that was made by a profit making company...tell me, what would you have left?
  • SupremiumHD
    38 posts Last Pick at the Park
    It's funny how badly people want to convince everyone else that they are not the problem that has led the FIFA franchise to this point. I mean just look at the title "WHY BUYING FIFA 20 IS OK VS MICROTRANSACTIONS". It's like saying "buying FIFA 20 is ok because I'm going to do so" and "buying FIFA points is bad because I don't buy them". To me it sounds the exact same as "I only bought FIFA points with 20/50/100 euros when the game was released. I'm not the problem, it's the people who spend much more than that!" I'm sorry to break the bubble but you are the problem unless you bought the game 6 months after release for a discount price of 15-20€ because EA won't get basically any profit from that. When some people say "they only bought the game" it is very possible that they mean the 100€ Super-Mega-Legends-Champions edition of the game that comes with 1 week early access, 50 "free" packs and god knows what else. I believe even the cheapest version costs like 50-60€ which is a lot more than anyone would've been ready to pay for any game 10 years ago. I'm not saying that 50-60€ is a lot but trust me it's definitely enough for EA to get a nice cut out of it. What I'm really trying to say and what the point of this message is that it doesn't matter how small amounts you think you are giving to EA, you're still giving them money and that's all what matters. Imagine if instead of being a video game company EA was a terrorist organization, would you still say that it's ok if you fund them only a little?

    Not comparable in any way. EA aren't using the money to traffic people, kill people, sell drugs...they are simply making profit for themselves and their shareholders...every corporation/company does the same.

    If you went into your house and removed everything that was made by a profit making company...tell me, what would you have left?

    Of course they aren't comparable but money allows both of them to keep running. Money is what allows terrorists to keep doing what they do and money is what allows EA to keep making terrible games like FIFA 19. As long as EA's profits keep increasing every year they don't have to worry about making enjoyable gameplay.
  • Fifa_Hawk_85
    14842 posts World Class
    It's funny how badly people want to convince everyone else that they are not the problem that has led the FIFA franchise to this point. I mean just look at the title "WHY BUYING FIFA 20 IS OK VS MICROTRANSACTIONS". It's like saying "buying FIFA 20 is ok because I'm going to do so" and "buying FIFA points is bad because I don't buy them". To me it sounds the exact same as "I only bought FIFA points with 20/50/100 euros when the game was released. I'm not the problem, it's the people who spend much more than that!" I'm sorry to break the bubble but you are the problem unless you bought the game 6 months after release for a discount price of 15-20€ because EA won't get basically any profit from that. When some people say "they only bought the game" it is very possible that they mean the 100€ Super-Mega-Legends-Champions edition of the game that comes with 1 week early access, 50 "free" packs and god knows what else. I believe even the cheapest version costs like 50-60€ which is a lot more than anyone would've been ready to pay for any game 10 years ago. I'm not saying that 50-60€ is a lot but trust me it's definitely enough for EA to get a nice cut out of it. What I'm really trying to say and what the point of this message is that it doesn't matter how small amounts you think you are giving to EA, you're still giving them money and that's all what matters. Imagine if instead of being a video game company EA was a terrorist organization, would you still say that it's ok if you fund them only a little?

    I don't agree with the whole terrorist part I think that's a little far fetched bit I do agree with pretty much the rest of what you have said.

    People seem to want to convince themselves that it's ok to buy the game if they don't buy FPs and I think it's their way of justifying buying another broken game after a year of complaining about how broken 19 is.

    If you have had alot of issues during FIFA 19 and then go and buy 20 then you're a part of the problem and basically praising EA for their previous year's work regardless of whether you buy FPs or not. If you have suffered with delayed and unresponsive gameplay all year and want changes in the future then don't buy the game.
  • Knowlesdinho
    12920 posts Has That Special Something
    It's funny how badly people want to convince everyone else that they are not the problem that has led the FIFA franchise to this point. I mean just look at the title "WHY BUYING FIFA 20 IS OK VS MICROTRANSACTIONS". It's like saying "buying FIFA 20 is ok because I'm going to do so" and "buying FIFA points is bad because I don't buy them". To me it sounds the exact same as "I only bought FIFA points with 20/50/100 euros when the game was released. I'm not the problem, it's the people who spend much more than that!" I'm sorry to break the bubble but you are the problem unless you bought the game 6 months after release for a discount price of 15-20€ because EA won't get basically any profit from that. When some people say "they only bought the game" it is very possible that they mean the 100€ Super-Mega-Legends-Champions edition of the game that comes with 1 week early access, 50 "free" packs and god knows what else. I believe even the cheapest version costs like 50-60€ which is a lot more than anyone would've been ready to pay for any game 10 years ago. I'm not saying that 50-60€ is a lot but trust me it's definitely enough for EA to get a nice cut out of it. What I'm really trying to say and what the point of this message is that it doesn't matter how small amounts you think you are giving to EA, you're still giving them money and that's all what matters. Imagine if instead of being a video game company EA was a terrorist organization, would you still say that it's ok if you fund them only a little?

    Not comparable in any way. EA aren't using the money to traffic people, kill people, sell drugs...they are simply making profit for themselves and their shareholders...every corporation/company does the same.

    If you went into your house and removed everything that was made by a profit making company...tell me, what would you have left?

    Of course they aren't comparable but money allows both of them to keep running. Money is what allows terrorists to keep doing what they do and money is what allows EA to keep making terrible games like FIFA 19. As long as EA's profits keep increasing every year they don't have to worry about making enjoyable gameplay.

    But you, like so many moaners on this forum, are assuming that everyone is unhappy.

    If a person is unhappy and buys the game, then fair enough, they are a mug for lining EAs pockets. Saying that, most of you buy the game, incessantly moan, yet play continually for the entire year! Why? WHY put yourselves through it if it’s that bad? If I hate something, I simply don’t do it.

    Some of you then say “FIFA 19 was the worst ever, so instead of buying 20, I’m going to continue with said worst FIFA ever”, as if that makes some kind of ultimate sense. It’s ridiculous, you either hate the game or you don’t.

    The reality is that this community will never be happy...even if the game was absolutely perfect, because there will always be losers and winners, it’s the nature of football.


  • lIlIlIlIlIl
    3973 posts National Call-Up
    It's funny how badly people want to convince everyone else that they are not the problem that has led the FIFA franchise to this point. I mean just look at the title "WHY BUYING FIFA 20 IS OK VS MICROTRANSACTIONS". It's like saying "buying FIFA 20 is ok because I'm going to do so" and "buying FIFA points is bad because I don't buy them". To me it sounds the exact same as "I only bought FIFA points with 20/50/100 euros when the game was released. I'm not the problem, it's the people who spend much more than that!" I'm sorry to break the bubble but you are the problem unless you bought the game 6 months after release for a discount price of 15-20€ because EA won't get basically any profit from that. When some people say "they only bought the game" it is very possible that they mean the 100€ Super-Mega-Legends-Champions edition of the game that comes with 1 week early access, 50 "free" packs and god knows what else. I believe even the cheapest version costs like 50-60€ which is a lot more than anyone would've been ready to pay for any game 10 years ago. I'm not saying that 50-60€ is a lot but trust me it's definitely enough for EA to get a nice cut out of it. What I'm really trying to say and what the point of this message is that it doesn't matter how small amounts you think you are giving to EA, you're still giving them money and that's all what matters. Imagine if instead of being a video game company EA was a terrorist organization, would you still say that it's ok if you fund them only a little?

    I don't agree with the whole terrorist part I think that's a little far fetched bit I do agree with pretty much the rest of what you have said.

    People seem to want to convince themselves that it's ok to buy the game if they don't buy FPs and I think it's their way of justifying buying another broken game after a year of complaining about how broken 19 is.

    If you have had alot of issues during FIFA 19 and then go and buy 20 then you're a part of the problem and basically praising EA for their previous year's work regardless of whether you buy FPs or not. If you have suffered with delayed and unresponsive gameplay all year and want changes in the future then don't buy the game.

    The problem with the argument of not buying the game is that it neither satiates the football addiction from gaming nor is palatable enough when considering the only other alternative (PES). We're talking about a duopolistic market and fundamentally neither party sports a compelling enough product. As for myself, i'm likely not buying the game on release (for the first time in years) but I wouldn't blame anyone who does-- they aren't the problem as I see it.
  • Fifa_Hawk_85
    14842 posts World Class
    It's funny how badly people want to convince everyone else that they are not the problem that has led the FIFA franchise to this point. I mean just look at the title "WHY BUYING FIFA 20 IS OK VS MICROTRANSACTIONS". It's like saying "buying FIFA 20 is ok because I'm going to do so" and "buying FIFA points is bad because I don't buy them". To me it sounds the exact same as "I only bought FIFA points with 20/50/100 euros when the game was released. I'm not the problem, it's the people who spend much more than that!" I'm sorry to break the bubble but you are the problem unless you bought the game 6 months after release for a discount price of 15-20€ because EA won't get basically any profit from that. When some people say "they only bought the game" it is very possible that they mean the 100€ Super-Mega-Legends-Champions edition of the game that comes with 1 week early access, 50 "free" packs and god knows what else. I believe even the cheapest version costs like 50-60€ which is a lot more than anyone would've been ready to pay for any game 10 years ago. I'm not saying that 50-60€ is a lot but trust me it's definitely enough for EA to get a nice cut out of it. What I'm really trying to say and what the point of this message is that it doesn't matter how small amounts you think you are giving to EA, you're still giving them money and that's all what matters. Imagine if instead of being a video game company EA was a terrorist organization, would you still say that it's ok if you fund them only a little?

    I don't agree with the whole terrorist part I think that's a little far fetched bit I do agree with pretty much the rest of what you have said.

    People seem to want to convince themselves that it's ok to buy the game if they don't buy FPs and I think it's their way of justifying buying another broken game after a year of complaining about how broken 19 is.

    If you have had alot of issues during FIFA 19 and then go and buy 20 then you're a part of the problem and basically praising EA for their previous year's work regardless of whether you buy FPs or not. If you have suffered with delayed and unresponsive gameplay all year and want changes in the future then don't buy the game.

    The problem with the argument of not buying the game is that it neither satiates the football addiction from gaming nor is palatable enough when considering the only other alternative (PES). We're talking about a duopolistic market and fundamentally neither party sports a compelling enough product. As for myself, i'm likely not buying the game on release (for the first time in years) but I wouldn't blame anyone who does-- they aren't the problem as I see it.

    Well after a year of non stop complaining and absolute frustration I feel I would be an absolute mug to buy FIFA 20. The love of football and addiction to play a football game is the only reason I've even made it this far with this company. There's games coming out that are actually fun to play and work as intended and if I want a few games of football I will jump onto FIFA 19 as FIFA 20 is going to be just as bad if not worse for delayed and unresponsive gameplay so the thoughts of starting a fresh year of that just isn't appealing at all anymore.

    I wouldn't say people buying the game are the problem but people who have suffered all year with delayed and unresponsive gameplay that are still buying the game are definitely part of the problem. I was also part of the problem for buying FIFA 19 after the absolute joke of a game FIFA 18 was. I've learned my lesson now and lost all faith with this company especially after playing the game.
  • Der Tooldoktor
    128 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    The biggest problem aren't the microtransactions itself, but it's the reason how they're able to get away with using this method.

    The answer is quite simple, they have no competition. They have one of the biggest monopoly known in the world with a total marketshare of 95%, against 5% of Konami.
    Having that big of a share in the market, allows you to do anything you want, since there's no real alternative.

    For EA to start caring is when 50% of the community steps over to the competition. It would make it so much better, when everyone takes away some of the money they use to buy packs and buy PES instead.

    It will decrease EA's income only slightly, but Konami's income will increase massively.

    The moment Konami's catching up with them again, EA will eventually feel the need to do change it up.
  • Fifa_Hawk_85
    14842 posts World Class
    The biggest problem aren't the microtransactions itself, but it's the reason how they're able to get away with using this method.

    The answer is quite simple, they have no competition. They have one of the biggest monopoly known in the world with a total marketshare of 95%, against 5% of Konami.
    Having that big of a share in the market, allows you to do anything you want, since there's no real alternative.

    For EA to start caring is when 50% of the community steps over to the competition. It would make it so much better, when everyone takes away some of the money they use to buy packs and buy PES instead.

    It will decrease EA's income only slightly, but Konami's income will increase massively.

    The moment Konami's catching up with them again, EA will eventually feel the need to do change it up.

    Never actually looked at it this way this is an even better idea than just not buying FIFA 20.

    I personally don't like PES at all but I would happily buy it and then trade it in again if this was ever going to happen. The only thing is though the FIFA community will never actually stick together and fight back against EA.
  • o0OainavO0o
    2482 posts Fans' Favourite
    Totally agree. Imo buy the game of course we all love football and fut. But if you do dumb sbcs that arent wortth it and spends 1000s on micro transactions you lose your right to complain.

    Your basically saying the gsme is **** but heres all my disposable income. Its like going to a restaurant being completely dissatisfied with the food and leaving a massive generous tip
    Well... depends on what the waitress looks like and if she flirts it up, bends over and shows the friends, throws in something extra or for free etc.
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