A big step forward in the banning of fifa points and packs

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Pughy30
25342 posts Player of the Year
Belgium was the first now it looks like other countries are gonna follow. I feel like it's inevitable loot boxes get banned.


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  • CeeQue
    10598 posts Has That Special Something
    If the US starts a crack down EA are surely sweating. But they are a corporation so lobbyists wins regardless.
  • Fifa_Hawk_85
    10933 posts Has That Special Something
    Belgium was only the beginning, why else do you think EA are acting so desperate this year?

    If FPs are still in FIFA 20 it will be the last year for sure.
  • Retro1989
    4372 posts National Call-Up
    RIP EA.

    We have seen they can't put out quality games anymore (Anthem etc), only thing keeping them alive is the millions they get from Fifa and Madden pack sales.
  • limjitwe
    6688 posts Big Money Move
    No more FUT :(
  • BeastlyHusla
    2701 posts Fans' Favourite
    Very Nice.
  • oldboiler
    1979 posts Play-Off Hero
    They’ll just move to a model where players know exactly what they’re buying e.g. guaranteed X player for X £€$ or make FUT an 18+ mode
  • Fifa_Hawk_85
    10933 posts Has That Special Something
    dregana08 wrote: »
    EA will just take FUT away, then there will be true uproar. Those lobbying for the banning of FP's will be the loudest criers when EA no longer see it as viable to run UT.

    Be careful what you wish for...

    In all fairness I think I would rather see fut completely removed than it to continue on the path it's on. Saying that EA won't remove FUT if FPs are banned as they will already be losing profit so it wouldn't be a very smart business move to then push away alot of the community and see a big drop in sales aswell.
  • Pughy30
    25342 posts Player of the Year
    edited May 8
    dregana08 wrote: »
    EA will just take FUT away, then there will be true uproar. Those lobbying for the banning of FP's will be the loudest criers when EA no longer see it as viable to run UT.

    Be careful what you wish for...

    Yeah that won't happen because they care about player engagement and they know fifa would struggle without FUT
  • HishamAyman
    2838 posts National Call-Up
    I dont mind it if they take out FUT, that’ll force them to build a game with proper gameplay
  • Markman007
    2617 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited May 8
    As much I love playing FUT, this wouldn’t be a bad thing. Microtransactions and loot boxes are the worst thing to ever happen to games and gamers.

    Used to be you paid once up front and had the entire game. You may have had to work to unlock things but there was no paywall or pay to win. Then maybe you had one or two big expansions a year or so after release you could buy, but that gave you loads of new content. Now companies just want to squeeze players for every last penny. Hopefully things are changing.
  • Cyodine
    1107 posts Professional
    The only reason I play this game is because of FUT! They might lose loot boxes but if they remove FUT, then they'll lose my yearly $60 as well.
  • lippyone
    1129 posts Professional
    You lot are crazy wanting loot boxes stopped, without the loot boxes there will be no daily content, and no incentive for EA to make any effort
  • Grifan
    1198 posts Professional
    lippyone wrote: »
    You lot are crazy wanting loot boxes stopped, without the loot boxes there will be no daily content, and no incentive for EA to make any effort

    It might actually see them make an effort with gameplay though.
  • Markman007
    2617 posts Fans' Favourite
    lippyone wrote: »
    You lot are crazy wanting loot boxes stopped, without the loot boxes there will be no daily content, and no incentive for EA to make any effort

    Their incentive would be to make the game better so more new players continue to buy the game.
  • forearms
    4468 posts National Call-Up
    Cant they just change it to selling coins? You could still use the coins on packs, or you could use it to buy players. That is what some other games do.

    The current issue is that buying points only allows you to get packs. I believe that is where the loot box problems come up.
  • lippyone
    1129 posts Professional
    Anyway title of thread is very misleading.

    Just because a bill is introduced does not mean it will pass. Many countries including the UK have already determined that loot boxes are NOT gambling, and the US bill is aimed at games designed for children.

    Fifa can just make it an 18plus title should the ban actually happen
  • lukey200
    764 posts Semi-Pro
    at the moment they haven't gotta say how much a ronaldinho is - but if i try to sell him for say 5000 pounds imagine the backlash
  • Grifan
    1198 posts Professional
    lippyone wrote: »
    Anyway title of thread is very misleading.

    Just because a bill is introduced does not mean it will pass. Many countries including the UK have already determined that loot boxes are NOT gambling, and the US bill is aimed at games designed for children.

    Fifa can just make it an 18plus title should the ban actually happen
    That’s true and a suspect ea have influence somewhere but I don’t see democrats being the ones to turn this down and the bill is proposed by a republican so that will have some backing from Both sides. Who knows though
  • bberger
    5107 posts Big Money Move
    Might be the best thing that happened to gaming in a long time.

    If EA makes FUT an 18+ game, they'll probably lose about 50% of their payerbase (you see what I did there, right? :wink:).

    At this point I don't actually care anymore what that would do to FUT, I just want to see EA brought to justice and found out for this truly awful online gameplay experience and customer shafting..
  • Springveldt
    4495 posts National Call-Up
    dregana08 wrote: »
    EA will just take FUT away, then there will be true uproar. Those lobbying for the banning of FP's will be the loudest criers when EA no longer see it as viable to run UT.

    Be careful what you wish for...

    So they are just going to throw away 800 million dollars in micro-transactions? It might even be over 1 billion dollars this year.

    If EA think it's no longer viable to run ultimate team then the share price is going to dive so hard and Andrew Wilson is so getting fired.

    Ultimate team IS their business now. They will find a new way to monetize it that doesn't involve kids gambling and exploiting their user base for everything they can.

    It's only a matter of time before loot boxes are regulated, EA will have to adapt.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/05/08/video-game-loot-boxes-would-be-outlawed-many-games-under-forthcoming-federal-bill
  • D0lvl
    1392 posts Play-Off Hero
    All EA will need to do to keep selling FP is to stop making packs RNG.

    By selling FP to buy players or specific players instead of packs, can’t EA make these less looking like gambling?

    I don’t see any issue of buying FP to buy a specific player.

    It’s the RNG of packs and FP that is being scrutinized. It’s basically gambling.
    Take away RNG and EA should still be able to sell FP to buy virtual players, etc.
  • jplumber
    1421 posts Play-Off Hero
    dregana08 wrote: »
    EA will just take FUT away, then there will be true uproar. Those lobbying for the banning of FP's will be the loudest criers when EA no longer see it as viable to run UT.

    Be careful what you wish for...

    So be it
  • jplumber
    1421 posts Play-Off Hero
    A great day for gaming
  • Heshyooo
    440 posts Sunday League Hero
    Good. What's the point in p2w if the players dont play to their stats
  • Momus
    1830 posts Play-Off Hero
    It certainly wouldn’t be the end of FUT. There are other ways of making money from in game purchases, for example they could monetise cosmetics in some way - works well in other games.

    Coupled with, perhaps, a subscription model for FUT which gives weekly packs in order to maintain a live market, with different tiers of subscription offering better packs.

    They could have a “create your own celebration” for £5 a pop and I’m sure they’d make millions of that alone :D

    One things for sure: they will adapt. In other industries this is common, competition drives innovation, but EAs monopoly has made them greedy and lazy
  • xEB50x
    133 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Some great ideas that would improve fut and keep the money coming in have been posted.

    Basically, You know what you're buying.
    1. Buy coins
    2. buy a specific player
    3. buy squad fitness pack
    4. buy a random pack of players, or pack of consumables.

    many ways to make money, and we the purchaser know exactly what we are buying.
  • cartyHUNTER
    848 posts Semi-Pro
    One thing I think most of us agree on is the quality of gameplay and servers has suffered terribly so that ea could carry on their pursuit of peoples cash.

    Back around 2002-03 pro evo absolutely blew Fifa out of the water in terms of realism and gameplay, and this is the way it is heading again.

    I wonder how the infrastructure of a company like ea will be affected if there is a ban in major countries on loot boxes. Could it even bankrupt them?
  • Thunder001
    415 posts Sunday League Hero
    No matter how good the gameplay, I would be off without FUT as I'm sure would countless others.
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