PITCH NOTES | UPDATE ON FIFA GAMEPLAY RESPONSIVENESS EFFORTS

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EA_Andy
2935 posts EA Community Manager
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Hello everyone,

We have just released a new pitch notes articles talking about updates on FIFA gameplay responsiveness efforts.

You can read the full article here.

Let us know any thoughts you have about this in this thread.

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  • Covkilla91mob
    136 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited March 12
    EA_Andy wrote: »
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    Hello everyone,

    We have just released a new pitch notes articles talking about updates on FIFA gameplay responsiveness efforts.

    You can read the full article here.

    Let us know any thoughts you have about this in this thread.

    Good to see some effort and transparency from the team,Hope we are a improvement as i can't stress how inconsistent gameplay makes fifa so frustrating and so much at times we lose controll and feel mad,Will this be fixed in time for 20 as we can't have a other year of this like 17 to 18 imo was a huge improvement but 19 feels so unfinished it worries me.
  • MartinKusev
    24 posts Last Pick at the Park
    edited March 12
    Good job for now. Configuration and hardware changes are great start, but your non-responsive gameplay is not because of bad servers... Only 30% of my bad gameplay games are because of bad connection and delay (i'm gold 1 player and i've played 1200 games for now). Other 70% of bad gameplay games, i had non-responsive gameplay (sliding tackles i didn't press, players turn without stick moving, tackle instead of shot and etc.), but without delay and lag. It's obvious there is different animations with non-responsive gameplay on board and it happens mostly agents low ranked players. Every fifa player will say to you that he is losing from noobs and beating good players because of non-responsive gameplay. It happens even in offline modes (career mode, squad battles and even kick-off ffs) when it must be "hard" for you like FA Cup Final. Watch InceptionXx's videos or some fifa 19 rage compilations on YouTube and you will see your weird gameplay... It's not the connection... IT'S IN THE GAME since first FUT, but now its more obvious than ever!
  • Nktori
    231 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited March 13
    I agree with the post above - you can get games with no lag but gameplay is sluggish. In these instances most passes includes a lunging animation, players ignore the ball, player switching doesn't work etc

    Heavy touches is the key one. This includes players acting like they've been shot when they receive the ball, making reasonable passing plays impossible. This is variable gameplay but doesn't feel like it's necessarily due to lag.

    It does however happen more often during what I assume to be peak hours (now spreading more and more to off peak hours I.e. 5am UK)

    Thank you for opening up on this and for efforts to improve this situation. It is the key issue in my opinion. I can't and won't put myself through another year of this.
  • Binary
    24 posts Last Pick at the Park
    There is no problems with your servers,

    The problems are caused by bizarre matchmaking e.g. UK players constantly matched with Russians. I have an amazing UK connection the only time game is slow or unresponsive is when I am matched with someone I should never have been playing to start with.

    Therefore the problem is with the amount of lag compensation your using. This is suppose to be a competitive Esport game... so why are you punishing the players with the good connections and not the people using wifi, or slow internet and especially those using a hotspot to cheat their way out of losses (mainly Russians again).
  • This will automatically fix your servers - (everyone wants this)

    1) Remove manual goalkeeping.
    2) Nerf AI defending. Not even a single tackle from AI. Manual defending will automatically decrease the rage among players. Rage only happens when a good player losses against a low tier player because he scored 3 headers and won the match.
    3) Open matchmaking game mode with decent rewards every week. Nobody wants to play competitively all the time.
    4) Remove time finishing and make the finishing overpower. 1 vs 1 will automatically be fixed.

    Players will always complain about servers no matter how much you try to fix the connection. The only way is to decrease rage between matches.





  • Pooter
    1078 posts Professional
    This is feedback only. Can we have an option to have the weather system is not related to where I live? I know I can change it, but on most occasions, that's the last thing on my mind, and I don't want to have to keep switching it back to my fave climate all the time. I don't want to be reminded that I live in a wet environment all the time

    I know that some people don't give a fudge about it, but every time I play, its raining in the game. I'm sure the pitch would have been a swimming pool by now if I continually play like this
  • Hello, after last update i have noticed that players have been out of position when opponent counter attacks, also my players are getting significantly slower not to mention they also run out of stamina way more than before without using team press. please look up the addressed issue.
  • also players are getting injured more frequently than before.
  • b00st88ch
    45 posts Last Pick at the Park
    Dear EA I play on PS4 last year I was on Xbox One and hitting a couple times T100. But this year it's impossible to reach Elite 1 for me under these circumstances of inconstant gameplay. 95% of all WL Games it's so frustrating about the delay. Im from Switzerland and I played with the same products and ISP (1Gbit fiber glass) like last year team is also more than good around 6-8mio. Little example what is not normal.

    Last year I knowed that I can play fluid around 23:00 during the night but in Fifa 19 it's not possible.
    no matter what time I want to play weekend league it's the same.

    Game starts doesn't matter if I'm home or away start with a little bit of delay it's handable I would say 100-200ms valued (always 5green bars and connect to Germany Servers mostly in Frankfurt (Netduma)). Than it begins slowly increase the delay sometimes more sometimes less but at the end of every game it's minimum 4-500ms and that's not what I want. I would be fair if I see that my oppenent has the same amount of delay that I have but 80% of the games I have the bigger delay than my enemy. My players can't control simple X Passes without extra Touch, out of sync all players are out of positions specially defenders. Green TF 5m in front of the goal fly next to the post, Skillmoves didnt recognized. At the end it makes no fun really. And that's really sad.

    I'm not sure what I can do more when I tracert the WL Servers its around 15-20ms so from where comes this massive inconstant gameplay? Overloaded servers? Im not sure but for me is this game 24hours not playable. Division Rivals is completely different its fast but also with delay and heavy touches.

    @EA_Andy do you have any Ideas what I can also try? Because I spend a big amount of cash into this game to be competitive but the best team brings zero when you can't handle the gameplay that switches 3-5times during 1 game :C

    ps. Yes Ports are all open and I play wired single household so no extra draining internet stuff :)
  • Jfo88
    22592 posts Club Captain
    Would feel really responsive if this was 2001
  • MartinKusev
    24 posts Last Pick at the Park
    b00st88ch wrote: »
    Dear EA I play on PS4 last year I was on Xbox One and hitting a couple times T100. But this year it's impossible to reach Elite 1 for me under these circumstances of inconstant gameplay. 95% of all WL Games it's so frustrating about the delay. Im from Switzerland and I played with the same products and ISP (1Gbit fiber glass) like last year team is also more than good around 6-8mio. Little example what is not normal.

    Last year I knowed that I can play fluid around 23:00 during the night but in Fifa 19 it's not possible.
    no matter what time I want to play weekend league it's the same.

    Game starts doesn't matter if I'm home or away start with a little bit of delay it's handable I would say 100-200ms valued (always 5green bars and connect to Germany Servers mostly in Frankfurt (Netduma)). Than it begins slowly increase the delay sometimes more sometimes less but at the end of every game it's minimum 4-500ms and that's not what I want. I would be fair if I see that my oppenent has the same amount of delay that I have but 80% of the games I have the bigger delay than my enemy. My players can't control simple X Passes without extra Touch, out of sync all players are out of positions specially defenders. Green TF 5m in front of the goal fly next to the post, Skillmoves didnt recognized. At the end it makes no fun really. And that's really sad.

    I'm not sure what I can do more when I tracert the WL Servers its around 15-20ms so from where comes this massive inconstant gameplay? Overloaded servers? Im not sure but for me is this game 24hours not playable. Division Rivals is completely different its fast but also with delay and heavy touches.

    @EA_Andy do you have any Ideas what I can also try? Because I spend a big amount of cash into this game to be competitive but the best team brings zero when you can't handle the gameplay that switches 3-5times during 1 game :C

    ps. Yes Ports are all open and I play wired single household so no extra draining internet stuff :)

    Sorry for you bro! Next year if you want to be competitive, you have to try trading. EA don't deserve fifa points money till they don't fix their manipulated gameplay (but they don't know how :D)! IT'S NOT THE SERVERS!!! I have the same problems like you, but in both online and offline modes. Sometimes with friends we play home-away kick-off and there is delay, bad touches (aka script) too! Just like in div rivals - fast gameplay but out of sync sometimes. In WL is different... There is more script (aka fifa features), because it has to be difficult for you (Maybe for EA competitive is frustration and randomness). IT'S IN YOUR GAME FOR YEARS, EA!!! Since first FUT. BTW Happy birthday! 10 years of sh*tting over your gameplay, because of more money :)
  • I don't know why ea ignore us. I understand it is related to business, but the business will die at some point if you don't fix the game. It is pointless to give feedback here. Like - Remove manual defending, or improve shooting blah blah...They wouldn't listen anyway. Many of my mates have downloaded PES 2019 .. LoL .. The reason is at least they get rewarded for playing well and they don't have to face el tornado crosses. The only way to save this game is to make it like past successful FIFA games. LIke FIFA 12. #anotherpostignoredbyEA
  • Things to fix: AI blocking, the amount of tackles needed to win the ball, finesse shots going sideways for no reason, Random probability passing (clear open pass and they fail and pass over to other team), SBC PIM balancing.. prices are too high due to promos. Example: baggio is 500k higher than market.
  • Alaily
    92 posts Park Captain
    Yesterday I had the worst experience with your servers my players are handicaped even when the connection was three bars or above I cant handle playing against a team full of icons starting with 2 secs delay in terms of responsiveness that costed me 2 ranks I finished silver 1 by the way so thanks EA this is the worst online experience I have ever seen.
  • The only way to fix the connection issue is to make gameplay enjoyable even in a bad connection. Finishing has to be overpowered - even CR7 miss an open goal quite often. If you don't want manual defending. Make goalkeepers awful and finishing overpowered. Only a balanced game will save FIFA 19.
  • b00st88ch
    45 posts Last Pick at the Park
    Since Update its impossible to play 1 game in WL without Delay. It's so frustrating when u can't handle this game because you're too conenctrated about the own players to handle a ball normal without first touch every damn time.

    CET Times it was horrible to play Friday 18:00 - 20:00 1sec or more delay with lags every game
    Saturday 13-17:00 normal delay was ok like 3-500ms
    Sunday 3-17:00 normal delay was ok like 3-500ms than 22:30 - 00:30 omg like Friday it drived me crazy against good players under such bad conditions to play.

    @EA_Andy show us in a graph how are the current status of the servers in Germany.
    Are these Servers 24/7 overloaded or whats the problem of this game? Be serious come on...

    Other EA Game's runs more than good for me but Fifa can't handle this amount of network data since the WL started in 2017. But every year it's getting worser than last year.

    WE WANT SMOOTH GAMEPLAY DURING THE DAY.

    Say something please otherwise it looks like you ignore all comments here when we criticize the actual status of the game. It's not community friendly how you handle some comments here in the forum. Be fair :)
  • MartinKusev
    24 posts Last Pick at the Park
    edited April 5
    Today me and my friend did a test. He is gold 3 player, i'm gold 1. We played 4 kick-off games. First 2 was on classic and i beat him 3-1 and 3-2. In both games after 60th min, my players couldn't make normal tackle or normal pass, but we are here to not talk about your manipulated script gameplay (the delay was 200-300ms... nothing horrible). 3rd and 4th games was Home-Away on Champions league final. First game 3-1 (gameplay like previeus 2 games). Second game... (and here starts the fun part) 10th min 0-2 for him with 2 goals between my manual selected defender's legs after couple of rebounds because of perfect tackles. And after that everything was unsynchronized - moving in def, player switching, tackles, passes, shots and etc. I didnt do skillmoves or 2-3 dibble steps turns because my players dont want to do it because of 2 sec delay (IN KICK_OFF GAME!!!). I managed somehow to score for 1-3 at 90th min. Then pens... MY PLAYERS DIDNT SHOOT WHERE IM POINTING THE STICK MORONS (im pointing left ,he goes to the right.. same for the goalkeeper). That game was like my most awful games in weekend league! When i message to your support, they said to me "there is no script or manipulation, you have to clean your mac address and restart console, then we will do some research for your profile, because there is some corrupted files" LOL. Why you talk ****? I'm developer for casino guys, i know its on purpose because of fifa points buying! EVEN 10 years old kid knows it fifa points buying manipulation! Fifa is my favourite game since fifa 98, but i hope all your fans to change to PES! Then you will do something good for the game and your fans.
  • greif44
    2205 posts Fans' Favourite
    Idk what they have done, probably nothing as I see no changes. It is still same unresponsive gameplay that puts either you or your opponent at disadvantage
  • Aquabrah
    13 posts Ball Boy
    U guys at ea are not doing any think about this this is not fair I lag sooo bad all yeah I put money in ultimate team start of the year I can't **** play cause of lag it's horrible
  • Please EA gods listen to this:- Fifa game has always been inconsistent but the complaints were very low because it was not that competitive before. Why EA just don't ask their community to vote on what they want every year in FIFA. Random applications in a game will only lead to more complaints, for eg:- Adding manual goalkeeping, Fut champs, division rivals, AI defending and timed finishing without asking the community. It's pointless to release servers now, the damage is already done (BTW servers are still not working well). I know EA would never listen to the feedback, but the only way to save this game is to ask what the community wants in FIFA 20. I don't think people will resist FIFA 20 if it's anyway near FIFA 19.
  • b00st88ch
    45 posts Last Pick at the Park
    @EA_Andy could you explain me why the LAG Compensation is broken in your Netcode?

    Why? Because i was frustrated this weekend so I testet to play by WLAN instead normally Cat6 wired 1Gbit Fiber Connection like normal.

    It's no real i swear everything runs now fine for the first time and I mean it runs smooth in DR,SB and WL.

    I'm a IT-Supporter and have no clue what is the problem for this Bugfix only imagine Lag Compensation is broken at the end. And I play during sunday afternoon normally high overloaded servers espacially when a tournament is also live (FUT Cup London) but it was a Day and Night difference. Game ran constantly same speed the whole time without getting slower and sluggish and the **** will start like normally.

    I recorded that match with a 95% top connection at this moment by WLAN normally Im not able to defend like on this because I like that high pressure manually not by CPU.

  • MartinKusev
    24 posts Last Pick at the Park
    edited April 12
    When the script doesn't know which side to take :smiley: Again... not the servers, the game is the problem! Even on your events...

    https://imgur.com/RfkdSp5
  • MartinKusev
    24 posts Last Pick at the Park
    edited April 18
    No feedback, and still trash gameplay... Typical for EA :)
  • MartinKusev
    24 posts Last Pick at the Park
    Hey, @EA_Andy! I know you are reading ;) Give us feedback what is going on with gameplay fixing. Many of us are considering to sell their fifa 19 and don't buy 20 :)
    P.S. This message is powered buy matuidi's 40 yard goal with back after shevchenko's miss in open net. Thanks for that beautiful script!
  • MartinKusev
    24 posts Last Pick at the Park
    edited April 21
    Next game... After red timed shot I press B to clear the ball. My Maldini hits Van der Saar in the head and own goaled :D NO, its not manipulated, Andy, no. Happy holidays from the community :) Best trash game ever! FIX THE SERVERS!!! THEY ARE THE PROBLEM! :D :D :D
  • b00st88ch
    45 posts Last Pick at the Park
    @EA_Andy

    Please spend these millions of ingame currency that we buy to open packs in following things for Fifa 2020.

    1. stable Server with new netcode, better Lag compensation, higher tickrate
    2. please remove that ugly ingame scripting for the bad player I know it's implemented but for a esport game it makes 0 sense. When it wouldn't be competitive than ok but so really frustrating at the end.
    3. AI should be like in Fifa 17 we want a game that you can learn not the game that has so many problem when the AI does things that drives you crazy. It should be way more passive. That will create a skill gap for the player.
    4. Shooting system you can see it how you want without stable servers Fifa 18 Style thats enough. Timed Finish green with shooting stats over 90 should go in a 1vs1 or outside the box. Sometimes it makes no difference if you timed well or just press shoot. That very important thing should be fixed since 6 months or so you don't get awarded from some actions well played against a "bad player" and than the 1vs1 its 50% to score the goal even with toty ronaldo.
    5. Bring a disconnect system in for all FUT modes. Like a reconnect system other games has this feature also.
  • KRANG00
    1654 posts Play-Off Hero
    @EA_Andy Can you let us know if there are anymore gameplay updates being worked on? Or is this what we are stuck with?

    I'm not asking for dates or details just a simple yes or no? At least we know where we stand, the silence and lack of communication is deafening as always.
  • Please explain who the hell is giving you such **** feedback? Stop fixing things that are not asked to be fixed!!! If you don't want to listen to the community, please take your game from the market and **** off.
  • There's no point giving feedback here! EA would never listen. This game is dead anyway! They just don't care about you. Why should you care about them!!!
  • MikeGus
    2 posts Ball Boy
    Div Rivals was always the place for me that I could find good gameplay, so I really enjoyed it. After the patch the week of 4/22, my connection on div rivals is terrible. I used to always have 5 bars, and now can only find 4 bar games at best. The games at times have significant lag, and random animations that seem out of sync. Pitch notes didn't mention anything that changed, but it seems significantly different.
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