WL with silvers - my observations

Scrub39

Having traded in my copy of 19 last week I borrowed a mates to have one last crack of the whip (gluten for punishment) after being inspired by a similar thread on here last weekend.

I played all 30 games with a full silver team inc subs and it was great fun! Managed to finish on 14 wins which I'm chuffed to bits with all things considered. I' usually around gold 3/2 anyway.

Here are a few things I noticed;

- Do pace stats matter? Not really, no. I can count on one hand the times I was outpaced on the wings etc. and thats with using full backs with 74 and 82 pace. I think IF Mbappe was the only player to cause me real problems in that department and I can forgive the boys for that!

- On to stamina next and again I didn't see a big difference there. Yes the stamina bars were lower than a snakes stomach by the end of the game but overall performance didnt seem to be any worse than the 88+ rated teams I faced.

- Matchmaking. This is one area which I was most interested in. Did having a 83 rated team affect the ratings of the teams I came up against? Not one bit. Still played the usual WL suspects however I didn't come across one icon in all 30 games. Usually when using golds and icons myself I come up against them every game. I really dont know if this is a coincidence or not but its an interesting one.

Maybe you don't need to use meta to get results after all.

If anyone is interested in the team I used I'll try and post pics if I can work out how. Diego Oliveira is a DON.

Scrub39

One thing I did notice was I conceded about 10 goals from corners which is way more than usual. Dont really know why, maybe jumping or defending stats but you have to expect Boateng to win a header over Bradley Dack (also a don)

Aguy9916

I've made a post similar to this after do I g the same... wierd how much more fun it is using silver's against top teams and even weirder how well the little silver's play 😂😂

RadioShaq

Saying pace doesn’t matter is not right. Saying it’s less than in previous years yeah they nerfed it. I know people will say 34 pace defenders are useable but I’ve yet to see it. Everyone is using top pace players.

Scrub39

RadioShaq wrote: »

Saying pace doesn’t matter is not right. Saying it’s less than in previous years yeah they nerfed it. I know people will say 34 pace defenders are useable but I’ve yet to see it. Everyone is using top pace players.

Just my opinion after the 30 games buddy. I didnt expect it to be the case but it certainly was.

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RadioShaq

Hopefully we see people using slower players with better stats than picking them by pace. Would make for a better fifa.

Ash Ketchum

I like using weaker teams but every time I do I feel like its the goalkeeper that lets me down. They seem to let in every decent shot taken against them. Well done for finishing so high with that team though.

Scrub39

sonnyfilth wrote: »

Scrub39 wrote: »

RadioShaq wrote: »

Saying pace doesn’t matter is not right. Saying it’s less than in previous years yeah they nerfed it. I know people will say 34 pace defenders are useable but I’ve yet to see it. Everyone is using top pace players.

Just my opinion after the 30 games buddy. I didnt expect it to be the case but it certainly was.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you can't spread facts that are wrong.

Pace still matters, attacking player pace tax is higher than other years, but pace DOES matter.

If it doesn't, you clearly don't understand the game or aren't good at the game to not see it.

I'm spreading my opinion, not facts man.

I dont see the connection between me thinking the pace difference wasnt an issue and me not understanding or being good at the game (I'm not good btw)

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JURITO1000

and i finish the same with 3 million squad.....thank you ea for amazing game

Scrub39

Ash Ketchum wrote: »

I like using weaker teams but every time I do I feel like its the goalkeeper that lets me down. They seem to let in every decent shot taken against them. Well done for finishing so high with that team though.

Yeah definitely a few dodgy keeper moments! Thanks man, definitely a fluke though 😂

Scrub39

sonnyfilth wrote: »

Scrub39 wrote: »

sonnyfilth wrote: »

Scrub39 wrote: »

RadioShaq wrote: »

Saying pace doesn’t matter is not right. Saying it’s less than in previous years yeah they nerfed it. I know people will say 34 pace defenders are useable but I’ve yet to see it. Everyone is using top pace players.

Just my opinion after the 30 games buddy. I didnt expect it to be the case but it certainly was.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you can't spread facts that are wrong.

Pace still matters, attacking player pace tax is higher than other years, but pace DOES matter.

If it doesn't, you clearly don't understand the game or aren't good at the game to not see it.

I'm spreading my opinion, not facts man.

I dont see the connection between me thinking the pace difference wasnt an issue and me not understanding or being good at the game (I'm not good btw)

Well that's fine then, but your opinion goes against facts.

You saying pace doesn't make a difference implies that players of higher pace aren't faster.

It also implies that being faster doesn't benefit a player.

Both these things are wrong.

And there's your connection, because if you can't understand one of the most basic concepts and principles of the game it brings your understanding in to question, and generally if you don't understand a game you are not going to be good at it since you can't see what is actually right and works.

Cool man, you're entitled to your opinion also👍

SignpostSounder

Regarding pace...I don't see why you're getting shouted down. You played 30 games and won 14 matches against teams that were likely built primarily around pacey players, and simply said you didn't feel that pace was as big an issue as you thought it would be. Fair enough.

Understanding, skill level...I don't get why either one of those things are being questioned when you've won just under half of your matches with what you say is a slower team.

Nobody has even asked how you play the game, yet is jumping to conclusions. Like, if you keep your fullbacks and CB deep, where on the pitch does everyone think that pace differential is going to show up? In the CAM area where there are probably three players covering and preventing an attacker from getting up to full speed? From a winger cutting in towards two defenders?

The OP didn't feel that pace was as important as he thought it would be. Maybe he doesn't leave himself exposed to pace by just lumping all ten outfielders forward for 90 minutes. Deal with it.

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Scrub39

SuperKMx wrote: »

Regarding pace...I don't see why you're getting shouted down. You played 30 games and won 14 matches against teams that were likely built primarily around pacey players, and simply said you didn't feel that pace was as big an issue as you thought it would be. Fair enough.

Understanding, skill level...I don't get why either one of those things are being questioned when you've won just under half of your matches with what you say is a slower team.

Nobody has even asked how you play the game, yet is jumping to conclusions. Like, if you keep your fullbacks and CB deep, where on the pitch does everyone think that pace differential is going to show up? In the CAM area where there are probably three players covering and preventing an attacker from getting up to full speed? From a winger cutting in towards two defenders?

The OP didn't feel that pace was as important as he thought it would be. Maybe he doesn't leave himself exposed to pace by just lumping all ten outfielders forward for 90 minutes. Deal with it.

I'm glad someone understood what I was saying, thanks man 😂

I genuinely thought I would be torn to shreds because of pace and was pleasantly surprised when I wasn't. The point of this thread wasnt to flex about how I used a silver team it was more to show that the so called meta isnt the be all and end all like I thought

Scrub39

sonnyfilth wrote: »

Scrub39 wrote: »

sonnyfilth wrote: »

Scrub39 wrote: »

sonnyfilth wrote: »

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RadioShaq wrote: »

Saying pace doesn’t matter is not right. Saying it’s less than in previous years yeah they nerfed it. I know people will say 34 pace defenders are useable but I’ve yet to see it. Everyone is using top pace players.

Just my opinion after the 30 games buddy. I didnt expect it to be the case but it certainly was.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you can't spread facts that are wrong.

Pace still matters, attacking player pace tax is higher than other years, but pace DOES matter.

If it doesn't, you clearly don't understand the game or aren't good at the game to not see it.

I'm spreading my opinion, not facts man.

I dont see the connection between me thinking the pace difference wasnt an issue and me not understanding or being good at the game (I'm not good btw)

Well that's fine then, but your opinion goes against facts.

You saying pace doesn't make a difference implies that players of higher pace aren't faster.

It also implies that being faster doesn't benefit a player.

Both these things are wrong.

And there's your connection, because if you can't understand one of the most basic concepts and principles of the game it brings your understanding in to question, and generally if you don't understand a game you are not going to be good at it since you can't see what is actually right and works.

Cool man, you're entitled to your opinion also👍

Are you ok buddy?

Explains why you quit, I don't get why you're so offended lol

To say a 20 pace player isn't faster than a 99 pace player is just beyond st***d..

This explains why you rage quit I guess haha, see you next year, don't forget to load up on FP Oh wait nvm you'll have your silver players :P

I'm absolutely fine mate, I just don't see a point in arguing with you when you have totally missed my point and are clearly on the wind up.

When have I ever made mention of a 20 pace player? My slowest player in the silver team is CM with 60. You seem to have taken real offence to me saying that pace wasnt as big of a deal as I expected. I think you'll find if you read the OP properly you will see I make mention of being burned by IF Mbappe so clearly pace did matter then.

And I never rage quit, see the below thread for my reasons if you are interested.

https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/449230/fut-founder-closing-the-curtain#latest

And as far as FP goes, £10 spent at the start of the year and that's been the lot. Not that its any of your business.