Those complaining about finesse shots...

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Decee
614 posts An Exciting Prospect
Stop parking the bloody bus then!!

Almost every match I play I come up against people who are parking the bus, the only way to score is from outside the box, and this may come as a shock to you but I hardly ever press the finesse button!!

What you are trying to do is to have long shots nerfed so you can continue to park the bus and not concede and then launch lobbed through balls forward.

90% of my goals are long shots because you have 11 men in your own box.

How about you come out of your box and we play a proper game of football yea?

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  • BombSquadPuppy
    2298 posts Fans' Favourite
    I never park the bus and always manually defend, yet my play style always forces my opponent to spam finesses from outside the box as a last ditch effort to equalize or score last second goal... what retort have you, for my favor in nerfing said shots and buffing gk position/reaction?
  • RadioShaq
    21271 posts Moderator
    Once it’s nerfed it’s going to be all park the bus. Then people will want defense nerfed but won’t play manual offense so will never have balance.
  • Decee
    614 posts An Exciting Prospect
    I never park the bus and always manually defend, yet my play style always forces my opponent to spam finesses from outside the box as a last ditch effort to equalize or score last second goal... what retort have you, for my favor in nerfing said shots and buffing gk position/reaction?

    I play manual defence too, yet I couldn't get my players to camp in my own box even if I tried!

    Unless they sort out players being camped on the box, ai defence then long shots will remain as it's the only way to score.
  • BombSquadPuppy
    2298 posts Fans' Favourite
    Decee wrote: »
    I never park the bus and always manually defend, yet my play style always forces my opponent to spam finesses from outside the box as a last ditch effort to equalize or score last second goal... what retort have you, for my favor in nerfing said shots and buffing gk position/reaction?

    I play manual defence too, yet I couldn't get my players to camp in my own box even if I tried!

    Unless they sort out players being camped on the box, ai defence then long shots will remain as it's the only way to score.

    I like how people say ai defense and longshots are the only way to score 😂
    Probably 1/20 of my goals come from a lucky longshot, other than that all my goals are from within the box at roughly the 6m mark 😝
  • neo_wolf82
    476 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Thats what most people i play do, park the bus in 4231. Most of my shots are blocked.
  • BombSquadPuppy
    2298 posts Fans' Favourite
    Guys gotta learn to maneuver within the box, learn dribbling techniques, and if all else fails try to force penalties with the ai tackles
  • Decee
    614 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Decee wrote: »
    I never park the bus and always manually defend, yet my play style always forces my opponent to spam finesses from outside the box as a last ditch effort to equalize or score last second goal... what retort have you, for my favor in nerfing said shots and buffing gk position/reaction?

    I play manual defence too, yet I couldn't get my players to camp in my own box even if I tried!

    Unless they sort out players being camped on the box, ai defence then long shots will remain as it's the only way to score.

    I like how people say ai defense and longshots are the only way to score 😂
    Probably 1/20 of my goals come from a lucky longshot, other than that all my goals are from within the box at roughly the 6m mark 😝

    That's because you park the bus and you come up against people like me who don't park the bus.
  • BombSquadPuppy
    2298 posts Fans' Favourite
    Decee wrote: »
    Decee wrote: »
    I never park the bus and always manually defend, yet my play style always forces my opponent to spam finesses from outside the box as a last ditch effort to equalize or score last second goal... what retort have you, for my favor in nerfing said shots and buffing gk position/reaction?

    I play manual defence too, yet I couldn't get my players to camp in my own box even if I tried!

    Unless they sort out players being camped on the box, ai defence then long shots will remain as it's the only way to score.

    I like how people say ai defense and longshots are the only way to score 😂
    Probably 1/20 of my goals come from a lucky longshot, other than that all my goals are from within the box at roughly the 6m mark 😝

    That's because you park the bus and you come up against people like me who don't park the bus.

    I never park the bus 😂 playing defence is just asking for a hard counter
    I always play counter offense
  • XXLFrankie
    36 posts Last Pick at the Park
    edited January 2019
    Fifa 18 had problems (low driven spam) but not this finesse ❤️❤️❤️❤️ every game. The spots around the box cant be pressed. Several pro's have comfirmed this already. Look at the current tournament for peking. Every pro is finessing loads and loads. EA cant fix it otherwise it would have been done already. The only thing you can do is join the club or go for crosses with lukaku kane etc... waiting.
  • ScorePlayer
    343 posts Sunday League Hero
    You mean you can’t score goals if someone parks the bus? The matches I’ve played even if the opponent parks the bus, there are ways to break the defence with build up play, crossing etc, there have been plenty of goals in them without finesse. Of course if you have 0 patience for build up and need to be able to score arcade football goals that may sound too exhausting.

    The game is broken because of the timed finesse. You could as well be defending a 100% working way to score from your own side of field with that logic if there was such a method. The game being a timed finesse competition with no way to counter eliminates the need to build up and has nothing to do with football. Until this is patched, the game is seriously broken.
  • Robmu22
    1530 posts Play-Off Hero
    Guys gotta learn to maneuver within the box, learn dribbling techniques, and if all else fails try to force penalties with the ai tackles

    You gotta forget about dribbling when facing the ai and the this f contain button where there players are magicians and can stick to you like glue.

    Anyway OP, i completely agree. But letting the ai defend for you is better than manually defending, That's why every one just parks the bus

  • BombSquadPuppy
    2298 posts Fans' Favourite
    edited January 2019
    Robmu22 wrote: »
    Guys gotta learn to maneuver within the box, learn dribbling techniques, and if all else fails try to force penalties with the ai tackles

    You gotta forget about dribbling when facing the ai and the this f contain button where there players are magicians and can stick to you like glue.

    Anyway OP, i completely agree. But letting the ai defend for you is better than manually defending, That's why every one just parks the bus

    When facing the ai defence or contain as you so eloquently put it, force. A. Penalty. It isnt that hard, all you gotta do is Bumper + direction opponent is containing, when defender goes for the tackle quickly move opposite direction

    Also manual defending is way better than ai defending, ai defending will usually leave 1 on 1 with keepers, but manual defending can easily regain possession in their final third
  • Syko
    285 posts Sunday League Hero
    edited January 2019
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    Once it’s nerfed it’s going to be all park the bus. Then people will want defense nerfed but won’t play manual offense so will never have balance.

    Thats why the priority should be to nerf defense. Tone down the AI defending first. New ways of attacking will open up as a consequence. After that tone down timed finesse shots just a touch so not every player even with low shooting while turning 180 degrees can score a finesse shot from outside the box.

    Nerfing AI defense should be priority number 1. Timed finesse/finesse outside the box can be nerfed after that. Only nerfing finesse shots outside the box only makes the game even worse.
  • Free12345
    216 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    They need to nerf how the AI organize the defending should never tackle t
    by themselves and the blocking lol. They totally reversed the AI defending nerf in the latest patch. Sometimes two or three attempt to block one shot.
  • UoD
    504 posts An Exciting Prospect
    Decee wrote: »
    Stop parking the bloody bus then!!

    Almost every match I play I come up against people who are parking the bus, the only way to score is from outside the box, and this may come as a shock to you but I hardly ever press the finesse button!!

    What you are trying to do is to have long shots nerfed so you can continue to park the bus and not concede and then launch lobbed through balls forward.

    90% of my goals are long shots because you have 11 men in your own box.

    How about you come out of your box and we play a proper game of football yea?
    You mean you can’t score goals if someone parks the bus? The matches I’ve played even if the opponent parks the bus, there are ways to break the defence with build up play, crossing etc, there have been plenty of goals in them without finesse. Of course if you have 0 patience for build up and need to be able to score arcade football goals that may sound too exhausting.

    The game is broken because of the timed finesse. You could as well be defending a 100% working way to score from your own side of field with that logic if there was such a method. The game being a timed finesse competition with no way to counter eliminates the need to build up and has nothing to do with football. Until this is patched, the game is seriously broken.

    +1.

    It’s entirely possible to pull a PTB defense apart with patient build up, but the fact that you are not then rewarded for manual defending yourself or your opp can timed finesse with VERY LITTLE effort from unrealistic distances, with weak foot is not right.

    A balance would be easy to achieve here, if you park the bus(ie play with low depth) you should find it EXTREMELY hard to create chances - just like in real life.

    Hence Jose M got sacked! F*** this game.
  • Tomashy300
    171 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    I agree defensive tactics in this game are far too rewarding trying to play any sort of decent football against a 4231 with 2 cdms which is the formation I now play (not through choice couldn’t beat it playing a normal 433) is a joke people should have to manually defend!!!
  • Tymsy83
    883 posts Semi-Pro
    I never park the bus. Yet every idiot I play does the same old time finishing from miles out all game long. So don’t accuse us all of doing it. You bell ends who can’t work a ball into the box are the bigger issue
  • nicitel32
    3001 posts National Call-Up
    and when u will face someone with constant pressure and high defensive line u will moan too...
  • Paul9619
    720 posts Semi-Pro
    I also manually defend and definitely do not PTB. I do have some good games against like minded people but it’s spoilt by the PTB and counter artists and finesse abusers.

    I am not the greatest player but I know an area I need to improve on is to use skills to manipulate play (Drag backs etc) but I literally use no skills. Maybe it’s my age (39). Lol

    One area of the game that really annoys me and I still have no idea how to do it is how players smash through the back of me all the time and win the ball. When I seem to do anything similar it’s a foul straight away.

    I also hate the fact that an opposition full back can run completely the wrong direction to try an intercept a pass on the wing and then recover in time to stop a cross when a fast winger has a few meter head start. Very annoying and unrealistic. I don’t mind it when the defender is running the same direction and catches up but so unrealistic when they start facing the wrong way
  • tezmacfifa
    1899 posts Fans' Favourite
    Decee wrote: »
    Stop parking the bloody bus then!!

    Almost every match I play I come up against people who are parking the bus, the only way to score is from outside the box, and this may come as a shock to you but I hardly ever press the finesse button!!

    What you are trying to do is to have long shots nerfed so you can continue to park the bus and not concede and then launch lobbed through balls forward.

    90% of my goals are long shots because you have 11 men in your own box.

    How about you come out of your box and we play a proper game of football yea?

    What a load of crap.

    I have played against people who get down the flanks, have options in the box, but wait for one of their players to be 30 yards outside the box, near the D. They then pass back for a finesse shot........ rinse and repeat. I play balanced / balanced and still concede finesse from outside the box 4/5 times.

    PTB is easy to break down, if you are actually any good at the game. If you are moaning about PTB then I guess you are not......
  • Dronegan
    1338 posts Professional
    People think legit timed finesse is fine and justifies it that it counters PTB? Like are you saying you won't use it if people don't play defensivly? I seriously doubt that since it's the easiest way to score a goal in this game.

    The reason people use "fall back" and the reason every pro uses it is because you need all bodies back around your box otherwise you will conceede a nice amount of times finess shot from any angle outside the box.

  • An3ll
    230 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    all time complains, ai defending, finesses , formations :D, less complain and more play it will solve the problem :D
  • UoD
    504 posts An Exciting Prospect
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    Once it’s nerfed it’s going to be all park the bus. Then people will want defense nerfed but won’t play manual offense so will never have balance.

    @Radioshaq

    Do you actually believe this? I sincerely hope you’re not defending the status quo?
  • Decee
    614 posts An Exciting Prospect
    tezmacfifa wrote: »
    Decee wrote: »
    Stop parking the bloody bus then!!

    Almost every match I play I come up against people who are parking the bus, the only way to score is from outside the box, and this may come as a shock to you but I hardly ever press the finesse button!!

    What you are trying to do is to have long shots nerfed so you can continue to park the bus and not concede and then launch lobbed through balls forward.

    90% of my goals are long shots because you have 11 men in your own box.

    How about you come out of your box and we play a proper game of football yea?

    What a load of crap.

    I have played against people who get down the flanks, have options in the box, but wait for one of their players to be 30 yards outside the box, near the D. They then pass back for a finesse shot........ rinse and repeat. I play balanced / balanced and still concede finesse from outside the box 4/5 times.

    PTB is easy to break down, if you are actually any good at the game. If you are moaning about PTB then I guess you are not......
    Easy to break down? Impossible to break down with all these AI interceptions.

  • PegLeg
    952 posts Semi-Pro
    Free12345 wrote: »
    They need to nerf how the AI organize the defending should never tackle t
    by themselves and the blocking lol. They totally reversed the AI defending nerf in the latest patch. Sometimes two or three attempt to block one shot.

    They need to sort player switching as well then. Sick to death of trying to switch to the player closest to the ball so I can tackle then the game picks a different player. Rarely goes to the one who has the triangle over their had.
  • Pooter
    4802 posts Big Money Move
    Parking the bus has been removed from this iteration of FIFA, everyone it seems, apart from myself, was using it
  • ICUP
    7723 posts League Winner
    Pooter wrote: »
    Parking the bus has been removed from this iteration of FIFA, everyone it seems, apart from myself, was using it

    4-2-3-1 all players on come back on defence and low depth is the equivalent of PTB
  • Decee
    614 posts An Exciting Prospect
    And what do people expect? If I have a player with 95 long shots then the likelihood is he's gonna be quite good at long shots and score a few of them.
  • FCBlunt
    3123 posts National Call-Up
    edited January 2019
    Nobody wants to meet a stayback squad, but usually these players suck, depending on auto tackles and timed finishing themselves. So, yeah.

    I dont really care, I just want defenders and TF nerfed. If you PTB its obvious that you’re bad at defending. Your time will come though, there’s patches and nerfs for guys like you.
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