This game is a joke

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CaptainWazza
449 posts An Exciting Prospect
edited January 4
I have played 4 games today, and in each one felt that I have had absolutely 0 control over the outcome of the game. Passes, shots, player switching - nothing goes the way I command it to. 80% of the goals I concede are purely down to scenarios which I am only in because the game hasn't correctly responded to my commands. The other 20% is usually my keeper - 3 shots went straight at him in one game and all went in. The next game goes to pens because my opponent scores from kick off boost in the 89' - I correctly guess 3 of his penalties yet the ball goes straight through my keepers hands each time, resulting in me losing. I literally conceded 2, yes 2 goals today, where the ball actually morphed through either my defender or my opponents attacker! This is how little control I have over the result of the game. I can read his move and counter it perfectly, yet still be punished.

How is it that my 'green' or 'perfectly' timed finesses consistently hit the post or go over, when my opponent hits ones in the yellow bar and they go in? How is it that 89 IF Pogba's strength is no match for Andrew Robertson? How can EA give away money for playing this game when literally nothing makes sense or has a level of RNG that seems to impact the outcome in some way. Shouldn't the reward go to the player who wins because of ONLY his own skill, and nothing else?

I seriously want a refund. I can't compete with what is going on at the moment, I consistently outplay my opponent, having more shots, creating more opportunities and having more possession, but still lose. 8-9/10 losses I take are (in my eyes) completely undeserved. I seriously think that only 15-20 occasions out of the 110 times I have lost, that my opponent has genuinely been better than me - which I am not afraid to admit - fair play to them if they're better. But if they get outplayed, and score only from kick off or scenarios in which I have no control over countering, then that's when I lose all incentive to play this excuse of a game from an excuse of a franchise.

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  • kapulsky
    88 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited January 4
    Friend I've played 20 matches! And did not win a single match!!! I'm certainly not a Pro player but this is impossible. Your skill means nothing here. The opponent intercepts every 30% of passes. He Batman?! My eyes are so wide open because I'm surprised where my players give a pass. Thought it was a joystick. it's not his fault, he checked three joysticks. My players lose positions all the time. They do not listen to configuration commands. There was an update from EA when you take the ball from an opponent he should not stay with him. But I'm on 3-4 times one player pick up the ball but the ball remained with the opponent. So it was in the update that fix a shot on goal when a defender blocks a shot, but it is not. You can beat 10 times and the defender blocks a shot. My patience is running out. Why EA not found another balance in the game how to do scenarios?!
  • kapulsky
    88 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Friend I've played 20 matches! And did not win a single match!!! I'm certainly not a Pro player but this is impossible. Your skill means nothing here. The opponent intercepts every 30% of passes. He Batman?! My eyes are so wide open because I'm surprised where my players give a pass. Thought it was a joystick. it's not his fault, he checked three joysticks. My players lose positions all the time. They do not listen to configuration commands. There was an update from EA when you take the ball from an opponent he should not stay with him. But I'm on 3-4 times one player pick up the ball but the ball remained with the opponent. So it was in the update that fix a shot on goal when a defender blocks a shot, but it is not. You can beat 10 times and the defender blocks a shot. My patience is running out. Why EA not found another balance in the game how to do scenarios?!
  • Bellstar23
    219 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    kapulsky wrote: »
    Friend I've played 20 matches! And did not win a single match!!! I'm certainly not a Pro player but this is impossible. Your skill means nothing here. The opponent intercepts every 30% of passes. He Batman?! My eyes are so wide open because I'm surprised where my players give a pass. Thought it was a joystick. it's not his fault, he checked three joysticks. My players lose positions all the time. They do not listen to configuration commands. There was an update from EA when you take the ball from an opponent he should not stay with him. But I'm on 3-4 times one player pick up the ball but the ball remained with the opponent. So it was in the update that fix a shot on goal when a defender blocks a shot, but it is not. You can beat 10 times and the defender blocks a shot. My patience is running out. Why EA not found another balance in the game how to do scenarios?!

    Well said mate the game is in a right state
  • Bellstar23
    219 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    I have played 4 games today, and in each one felt that I have had absolutely 0 control over the outcome of the game. Passes, shots, player switching - nothing goes the way I command it to. 80% of the goals I concede are purely down to scenarios which I am only in because the game hasn't correctly responded to my commands. The other 20% is usually my keeper - 3 shots went straight at him in one game and all went in. The next game goes to pens because my opponent scores from kick off boost in the 89' - I correctly guess 3 of his penalties yet the ball goes straight through my keepers hands each time, resulting in me losing. I literally conceded 2, yes 2 goals today, where the ball actually morphed through either my defender or my opponents attacker! This is how little control I have over the result of the game. I can read his move and counter it perfectly, yet still be punished.

    How is it that my 'green' or 'perfectly' timed finesses consistently hit the post or go over, when my opponent hits ones in the yellow bar and they go in? How is it that 89 IF Pogba's strength is no match for Andrew Robertson? How can EA give away money for playing this game when literally nothing makes sense or has a level of RNG that seems to impact the outcome in some way. Shouldn't the reward go to the player who wins because of ONLY his own skill, and nothing else?

    I seriously want a refund. I can't compete with what is going on at the moment, I consistently outplay my opponent, having more shots, creating more opportunities and having more possession, but still lose. 8-9/10 losses I take are (in my eyes) completely undeserved. I seriously think that only 15-20 occasions out of the 110 times I have lost, that my opponent has genuinely been better than me - which I am not afraid to admit - fair play to them if they're better. But if they get outplayed, and score only from kick off or scenarios in which I have no control over countering, then that's when I lose all incentive to play this excuse of a game from an excuse of a franchise.

    Game is a joke, needs snapping up and throwing in the bin. Or deleting from your downloads. Never to be played again.
  • This weekend has been terrible. Agree with your views op. Even when I'm winning it's not enjoyable!
  • Gazbell76
    291 posts Sunday League Hero
    I have played 4 games today, and in each one felt that I have had absolutely 0 control over the outcome of the game. Passes, shots, player switching - nothing goes the way I command it to. 80% of the goals I concede are purely down to scenarios which I am only in because the game hasn't correctly responded to my commands. The other 20% is usually my keeper - 3 shots went straight at him in one game and all went in. The next game goes to pens because my opponent scores from kick off boost in the 89' - I correctly guess 3 of his penalties yet the ball goes straight through my keepers hands each time, resulting in me losing. I literally conceded 2, yes 2 goals today, where the ball actually morphed through either my defender or my opponents attacker! This is how little control I have over the result of the game. I can read his move and counter it perfectly, yet still be punished.

    How is it that my 'green' or 'perfectly' timed finesses consistently hit the post or go over, when my opponent hits ones in the yellow bar and they go in? How is it that 89 IF Pogba's strength is no match for Andrew Robertson? How can EA give away money for playing this game when literally nothing makes sense or has a level of RNG that seems to impact the outcome in some way. Shouldn't the reward go to the player who wins because of ONLY his own skill, and nothing else?

    I seriously want a refund. I can't compete with what is going on at the moment, I consistently outplay my opponent, having more shots, creating more opportunities and having more possession, but still lose. 8-9/10 losses I take are (in my eyes) completely undeserved. I seriously think that only 15-20 occasions out of the 110 times I have lost, that my opponent has genuinely been better than me - which I am not afraid to admit - fair play to them if they're better. But if they get outplayed, and score only from kick off or scenarios in which I have no control over countering, then that's when I lose all incentive to play this excuse of a game from an excuse of a franchise.

    All this happens offline single player aswell mate . Game is complete torture and EA have just sat there for a month leaving game in complete mess when they should of reverted patch like any other gaming company would i.E battlefield and you got an apology but not EA . How many players have rage quit and sold there teams because of this costing them hundreds or even thousands and time ? .
  • JAB69
    72 posts Park Captain
    All of you are playing a programmed movie, of which you interact, nothing new here. Play FIFA 17, you will be better off.
  • CaptainWazza
    449 posts An Exciting Prospect
    This weekend has been terrible. Agree with your views op. Even when I'm winning it's not enjoyable!

    Thats the worst part I think. You have to use dirty tactics and techniques to win, so there's no feeling of reward.
  • BSDShoes
    1598 posts Play-Off Hero
    Constant losing streaks is why I stopped playing online, I only do 1-2 online matches a month or so now, it's not even encouraging anymore.
  • Omar.aljanaby
    659 posts An Exciting Prospect
    I have lost 20 game of 30 man! The game is fix and they decided who will win!! I started to believe there is a blacklist!! Anyone will comment any negative will be losing no matter what! I deleted the game few times and come back because was a patch every time! I tell myself maybe this time better but I was wrong!! Ea prove me wrong every time!!!! @EA_Andy , tell them the game is horrible!!! By the way, are you playing the game or not!!
    Probably you will not answer me as always!!!
  • Sm0key_J0e
    367 posts Sunday League Hero
    I had exactly the same experience during this WL.
  • maksi
    6504 posts Big Money Move
    Just because you're losing doesn't prove anything, maybe you just aren't that good as you think.
  • kapulsky
    88 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    I communicate on several forums. Everyone has the same grudges. Everyone has the same problems in this crazy game. It can't be that your skill at acting comes down to the same problems as everyone else. Players do not play, you lose the position for setting tactics does not respond, the passes give not the choice of the stick on the joystick, ten games games, ten games only the goal post. BUG,BUG,BUG
  • McKrill
    178 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    I agree with Kapulsky, this game is really really bad. People have paid good money for it but still no answer from the EA. Instead they ignore the community, the only thing they are thinking of is how to make even more money. It's just a matter of time when the EA will implement a time barrier between your games. "Your player/team needs to rest for 24 hours" so you either have to refill your stamina by paying for it or you just have to wait it out. It's all about pay and win...
  • bgreen
    16 posts Ball Boy
    maksi wrote: »
    Just because you're losing doesn't prove anything, maybe you just aren't that good as you think.

    STHU the game is trash fanboy
  • kapulsky
    88 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    McKrill wrote: »
    I agree with Kapulsky, this game is really really bad. People have paid good money for it but still no answer from the EA. Instead they ignore the community, the only thing they are thinking of is how to make even more money. It's just a matter of time when the EA will implement a time barrier between your games. "Your player/team needs to rest for 24 hours" so you either have to refill your stamina by paying for it or you just have to wait it out. It's all about pay and win...

    I support you completely in this. But there are still those players who invest more money than usual and do not get anything. I'm not talking about big money.
  • Mate. I remember one game I must have had 25 shots on target, hit both posts and the bar. My opponent had 2 shots, we drew 2-2 and I only scored cos I got 2 open goals. Then he won on penalties. Gutted!
  • GoonerSoldier
    320 posts Sunday League Hero
    Guys. It is because the game is 100% AUTOMATED. I can beat the AI on World Class with ease. It's not even enjoyable at all. But when I put all the controls to full Manual, it becomes a REAL challenge. AND the game plays like a proper simulation with Manual controls. I am telling you now. Switch the game to manual and you will appreciate it once again. I suggest you start on Semi Pro though if you are new to Manual controls. Peace.
  • Peter66
    50 posts Park Captain
    edited January 9
    EA please read this.....Believeme I am 46 years old electrician and all my life I play fifa and other video games in pc ps4 and xbox...
    This game online is BROKEN .It has problem synchronization. I had spend many hours and money from this game...I have tried everything, hardware, software,cable controlers,game monitors, changed internet providers, dns,open dmz,ethernet cables,modems etc ( my ping with my internet provider is good 14).
    For example when I play online seasons and there are inside servers 10.000 peoples in ps4 the gameplay is almost normal...but when there are 20.000 - 30.000 peoples the gameplay is monkey-broken....Then my team has one side delay, sluggish gameplay, dubble error in passes and broken finishes,microstutters etc....but my opponents gameplay has boost response without problems!!!
    The same problem when in my city drop snow and weather is heavy...then I need to make 30 finishes for to score 1 goal but the opponent noob player with a lucky chances score monkey goals...
    I live in Greece...the SAME problem happens every time who I connect with opponents from Israel and Saoudi Arabia....Then again I have one side delay, sluggish gameplay, broken passes and finishies but my noob opponents gameplay has not problems...
    The same cancer phenomeno happens every time when I play friendly online matches with a friend from near city in my house.(100 klm distance). My friend has the same internet provider company but it has 35 ping (I have 14 ping )and EVER I have one side delay and broken gameplay but he has normal game play!!! This game avantage the gamer with worst ping? What to hell is doing here EA???
    The problem is not to my side, this game is BROKEN without NET STABILITY. It' s the last time who I pay for this broken game.
    EA you must need to DUBBLICATE YOUR SERVERS IN EUROPE....if not then all us we not spend money again for this cancer game.


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  • kapulsky
    88 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    incredible game!!! I just do not understand how in this game you can give a pass to the player so that the opponent does not take control. Given the ball a few feet to roll 3-5 seconds, the opponent of tea had time to brew and take the ball. The player gives a simple pass no noise but somehow the pass goes to the opponent, an incredible game. why is my inaccurate pass an accurate pass to the opponent? Why does auto-switching players choose at the right time a bad player position? I need a player in the center of defense. and the PC chooses me another player. How does this system work? I have no thoughts. The logic of auto-selection of the player at the child level. I'm not with you at 20!!!
  • XcentY
    6 posts Ball Boy
    edited January 10
    The outcome of the game depends a lot on who open the score. It has an impact on your whole team (mistakes, inconsistency, ...) Also the player who scored is boosted and if you play good with him you can definitively hit the target each time he receives the ball.
    Also this is not only the direction of your joystick that decides where the pass will go especially if you have pass assist activated. The player owning the ball will not be able to make a good pass if all conditions are not met. (direction of the players, opponents in the direction of the pass, ...)

    You can clearly see that with the team stats. If you played adventure or Single player career, it gives you hint on how the system works. When the match start, every player has a stats of 6. This player's stats will increase with a successful pass, a good shot, ... but will decrease with a bad timed tacle, a bad pass, a wrong place on the field, ... And upon all these, if one member of your team score, the whole team receive a bonus but if you concede a goal, the whole team will also be impacted...
    Your team also has a bonus while playing home.
  • TheLocore
    31 posts Last Pick at the Park
    Unfortunately EA cannot be bothered to invest in writing a competitive AI so this is the only way they can make the game competitive in single player.

    Making their players have double pace when you get in behind their back 4. Giving them double strength, being able to tackle from behind, exploiting through balls because they know it will take you a second to change player and your AI controlled players are just zombies. Making the opposition team go super saiyan when they want to score / in the last 5 mins of halfs. Unfortunately it doesnt really add difficulty, there is nothing you can do about a League 2 team one touch passing up the pitch, your players tackle-passing, then some clonker rigging from 35 yards with a weak foot half volley, it just adds frustration, you will still win, it will just be 5-4 instead of 5-0.

    EA dont give a toss about single player and have not in over 5 years. Its all about the competitive scene for free advertising, and Ultimate team for that dollar dollar.
  • kapulsky
    88 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited January 11
    XcentY wrote: »
    The outcome of the game depends a lot on who open the score. It has an impact on your whole team (mistakes, inconsistency, ...) Also the player who scored is boosted and if you play good with him you can definitively hit the target each time he receives the ball.
    Also this is not only the direction of your joystick that decides where the pass will go especially if you have pass assist activated. The player owning the ball will not be able to make a good pass if all conditions are not met. (direction of the players, opponents in the direction of the pass, ...)

    You can clearly see that with the team stats. If you played adventure or Single player career, it gives you hint on how the system works. When the match start, every player has a stats of 6. This player's stats will increase with a successful pass, a good shot, ... but will decrease with a bad timed tacle, a bad pass, a wrong place on the field, ... And upon all these, if one member of your team score, the whole team receive a bonus but if you concede a goal, the whole team will also be impacted...
    Your team also has a bonus while playing home.

    I agree with you a little. but EA says that he is committed to real football. but in the life of the whole team in one second does not become the post even if the team loses. A rare case when the whole team does not play real football. And then you just want to have both at one point because the two players in the team were more wrong passes? It's nonsense! A feeling that EA made the game by the book and not on real football. Look I've been doing screenshots of how EA handles my passes. According to you, then my team can't play well in the match.
    Look where the direction of the pass and which player had to get the ball...
    In 70% of cases my mistake is not for my reason

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  • XcentY
    6 posts Ball Boy
    edited January 11
    kapulsky wrote: »

    I agree with you a little. but EA says that he is committed to real football. but in the life of the whole team in one second does not become the post even if the team loses. A rare case when the whole team does not play real football. And then you just want to have both at one point because the two players in the team were more wrong passes? It's nonsense! A feeling that EA made the game by the book and not on real football. Look I've been doing screenshots of how EA handles my passes. According to you, then my team can't play well in the match.
    Look where the direction of the pass and which player had to get the ball...
    In 70% of cases my mistake is not for my reason

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    Your player is already facing opposite direction protecting the ball. You try to make a pass on his rear right with an opponent just behind him... Also I don't have the whole context (player general stats like vista and pass, player stamina, score, player match stats, how did he get the ball, ... ). As I see that the ball is already on the right of his right foot. This means to be able to pass where you intended. You player has to move his whole body toward the direction of the pass with an opponent just behind him or to make a total blind pass... And I suppose that you're using full assist on your pass. In real football if that kind of pass goes through it is mainly a blind pass where the player don't see his teammate but he is confident that he's there. But here as a FIFA player you see your whole team. This means that even if the player you're handling don't see his teammate, you see him on your screen... I also have this kind of behavior that makes me rage sometimes when I see a pass going to another player than the one I was expecting. If you want less of this kind of mistake then turn off pass assist and begin to play FUMA (Full Manual)
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  • Burninman
    303 posts Sunday League Hero
    Zero control of players. EA is a cheap **** company. Utter greed monkeys
  • kapulsky
    88 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    XcentY wrote: »
    kapulsky wrote: »

    I agree with you a little. but EA says that he is committed to real football. but in the life of the whole team in one second does not become the post even if the team loses. A rare case when the whole team does not play real football. And then you just want to have both at one point because the two players in the team were more wrong passes? It's nonsense! A feeling that EA made the game by the book and not on real football. Look I've been doing screenshots of how EA handles my passes. According to you, then my team can't play well in the match.
    Look where the direction of the pass and which player had to get the ball...
    In 70% of cases my mistake is not for my reason

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    Your player is already facing opposite direction protecting the ball. You try to make a pass on his rear right with an opponent just behind him... Also I don't have the whole context (player general stats like vista and pass, player stamina, score, player match stats, how did he get the ball, ... ). As I see that the ball is already on the right of his right foot. This means to be able to pass where you intended. You player has to move his whole body toward the direction of the pass with an opponent just behind him or to make a total blind pass... And I suppose that you're using full assist on your pass. In real football if that kind of pass goes through it is mainly a blind pass where the player don't see his teammate but he is confident that he's there. But here as a FIFA player you see your whole team. This means that even if the player you're handling don't see his teammate, you see him on your screen... I also have this kind of behavior that makes me rage sometimes when I see a pass going to another player than the one I was expecting. If you want less of this kind of mistake then turn off pass assist and begin to play FUMA (Full Manual)

    Again, I agree with you but not 100%. The pass was at one time (touch). Direction there is pass there is no. See who pass (a player in the circle on) pass through through the center. In a large percentage of the player's working leg right should not be a problem for the pass. Not necessarily to see player you can suggest where he will. Stick selected in the right direction, gave the pass, but the pass is absolutely not there. I have unfortunately there is no screen yesterday's game. There it seems on this situation. My player hits his head while facing his partner. He does not interfere with the opponent. Help coach shows a smooth direction towards the partner, but the pass goes much to the left (30-40 degrees) and of course how do you know exactly the opponent!!! Such cases are very common in the game. You don't know where the ball goes you start to think that your joystick's broken. You physically feel the direction of the stick, but the ball goes even in a simple situation is not correct. The thing is, I see it a lot more in the weekend League. Doubt pass when in different tournaments different statistics here on such moments. For example... kickoff in squad battles virtually no. Bigger rivals. League output days 0-0, 1-0. kickoff 1-1, 2-1 kickoff you only expense equalized and again lost. play five matches 4-1 five matches 1-4 and so all weekend.
  • Hudson
    52 posts Park Captain
    I lost 6-2 earlier to someone who I could tell was probably not as good as me (not arrogance just the fact I was dominating him) he had 4, yes 4 penalties all for shoulder to shoulder tackles where his players went down, not one of them was a penalty. It was beyond a joke!!! I give up with this game
  • kapulsky
    88 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Hudson wrote: »
    I lost 6-2 earlier to someone who I could tell was probably not as good as me (not arrogance just the fact I was dominating him) he had 4, yes 4 penalties all for shoulder to shoulder tackles where his players went down, not one of them was a penalty. It was beyond a joke!!! I give up with this game

    I get penalties all the time. Sometimes I don't understand why! You play ball clean, but penalty. If I knock the ball clean and then the player gave himself a leg is not a penalty my player first on the ball. Apparently EA made a priority on a foul and they spit on the rules of the game. The judge was wrong they'll say. This is a new bug referees system in the game. Of course!!! It is a bug to clean up and talking about the new system. It seems that they bugs to finish (not to correct) and to call a new course in a game.
  • p0larh4wk
    76 posts Park Captain
    this game sucks. like the last 4-5 fifa games. the games honestly are just getting worse. ea doesnt care about anything but FUT. No improvements to the gameplay, career mode or anything. AI just gets worse and worse. they don't even try anymore. they dont care about us loyal longtime fifa players cause they can always find new people that will buy the game no matter what. no more giving ea my money. never again.
  • LoudNightfox
    134 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    maksi wrote: »
    Just because you're losing doesn't prove anything, maybe you just aren't that good as you think.

    I wonder your team. All pace, no chem, high pressing and super sub.
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