Constant press is ruining the game

Aspral
3797 posts National Call-Up
How are they scared to make big patches but add this unrelenting constant press in the game? It's such an extreme thing to add.

It doesn't require a player to be skillful to use either since it's the ai defending. It makes a less skillful player not have to defend for themselves

How is it acceptable for the ai to hunt you down in packs and tackle you? The ai shouldnt tackle ever.

People will say learn to pass and so on. But it's beyond difficult and especially with lag that delays your reaction to beat constant press which is entirely the ai doing all the work for your opponent.

People can switch and tackle. Constant press is sucking the life out of the game. It's like playing squad battles against legendary.

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  • HektorOvTroy
    1637 posts Play-Off Hero
    Constant pressure would be fine if a players first touch was more in line with reality.
  • Xtc
    5186 posts Big Money Move
    the game is not player a vs player b ..its player a vs AI and player b vs AI ..the one who handles the AI best wins . Thats not enjoyable as with youtube and forums, almost every player sets up his AI to play the same way. Throw in the random RNG aspect and you have fifa19 ...a grind of a game with very limited variety.

    problem is many keep playing in case of a patch because they dont want to be left behind and love football.

    for me, this is the worst edition to date simply for this reason. its potentially the very best to date, but the way its balanced ruins it for me.
  • Aspral
    3797 posts National Call-Up
    Xtc wrote: »
    the game is not player a vs player b ..its player a vs AI and player b vs AI ..the one who handles the AI best wins . Thats not enjoyable as with youtube and forums, almost every player sets up his AI to play the same way. Throw in the random RNG aspect and you have fifa19 ...a grind of a game with very limited variety.

    problem is many keep playing in case of a patch because they dont want to be left behind and love football.

    for me, this is the worst edition to date simply for this reason. its potentially the very best to date, but the way its balanced ruins it for me.

    Absolutely.

    If they patched high press, long range finesse shots and maybe stamina I'd be delighted to play fifa.

    But atm since I'm not playing in mid-lower divisions it's basically playing vs the ai on steroids.
  • GreezyWeezyLDN
    1323 posts Professional
    3 things that would fix it.

    1. Stop players being able to run faster than the ball is moving.

    2. Semi-realistic outcome of 90 minute high press, cramp/injuries/severe fatigue

    3. Make the pitch bigger. More space would be the end of excessive high pressure
  • kraid
    7671 posts League Winner
    Problem is last year we all complained as it was too easy to hold the ball in defence and your opponent couldn’t press effectively to get it back. So they improve pressing to counter this but now people play pressure for 90 minutes and it’s too effective.

    Don’t think you can just nerf pressing as we’ll go back to scoring 1 goal and holding the ball in defence for 80 minutes.

    Think they need to do something with stamina.
  • maksi
    6650 posts Big Money Move
    edited November 2018
    At least they could buff shielding, now players like Mertens and jesus can bully 190 cm tall defenders.
  • Nodge86
    5676 posts Big Money Move
    edited November 2018
    If you play with full backs the switch is always an outball. And you always have the keeper. Constant pressure is fine, move the ball quicker.
  • Aspral
    3797 posts National Call-Up
    maksi wrote: »
    At least they could buff shielding, now players like Mertens and jesus can bully 190 cm tall defenders.

    This is true. Jesus running through koulibaly with ease numerous times and similar
    Nodge86 wrote: »
    If you play with full backs the switch is always an outball. And you always have the keeper. Constant pressure is fine, move the ball quicker.

    My passing is fine. I can pass fine and move fine.

    No matter how good you are at that you will be under pressure severly from the ai and not your opponent. It's not a case of play better imo. You shouldnt be forced to play so intensely against the ai and nothing your opponent is doing.
  • Murphdogz
    1554 posts Play-Off Hero
    Play constant pressure aswell.teach them a lesson
  • Xtc
    5186 posts Big Money Move
    Nodge86 wrote: »
    If you play with full backs the switch is always an outball. And you always have the keeper. Constant pressure is fine, move the ball quicker.

    except button lag makes this very hard most of the time. one action ( the press) is AI driven adn therefore instant. the antidote is user driven and subject to the usual vagaries of the game
  • Khangaskhan17
    4463 posts National Call-Up
    Tap RB / R1 to call a player to come to you. It really helps.
  • Aspral
    3797 posts National Call-Up
    edited November 2018
    Tap RB / R1 to call a player to come to you. It really helps.

    Don't really have time to use trigger runs when you're being swamped instantly by a pack of 3-4 players

    Especially when the servers are so bad it's delayed
  • LSB1210
    575 posts An Exciting Prospect
    With delay you can’t do much. When there’s good connection possesion tactics usually makes them rage quit. Thing is delay is often then good conection.
  • xEB50x
    134 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited November 2018
    The answer is stamina. They should only get a total of 45 mins game time worth of all out press tactics. If they use constent press for the entire 1st half, they should be on low yellow, or red stamina. This would be realistic, and it could be used here and there throughout a game, like a true tactic. Take their stamina, and clean up this unrealistic tactic.
  • klaas9
    1487 posts Play-Off Hero
    xEB50x wrote: »
    The answer is stamina. They should only get a total of 45 mins game time worth of all out press tactics. If they use constent press for the entire 1st half, they should be on low yellow, or red stamina. This would be realistic, and it could be used here and there throughout a game, like a true tactic. Take their stamina, and clean up this unrealistic tactic.

    Exactly this.
  • Paulopudasso
    1546 posts Play-Off Hero
    Exactly that
  • ITSSPENO
    2012 posts Fans' Favourite
    Constant pressure can be easy to play against if your formation gives you room. When 3 or 4 players swarm towards you press "x" (xb1) to dink it over then to your attackers. Careful with "a" due to interceptions. Also a crucial tip is do not hold sprint. That will make the animation slower and potentially lose you the ball.
  • Nodge86
    5676 posts Big Money Move
    Xtc wrote: »
    Nodge86 wrote: »
    If you play with full backs the switch is always an outball. And you always have the keeper. Constant pressure is fine, move the ball quicker.

    except button lag makes this very hard most of the time. one action ( the press) is AI driven adn therefore instant. the antidote is user driven and subject to the usual vagaries of the game

    Agreed on the button lag issue. On the whole though constant pressure is fine. Teams press in real life for whole games. Press leaves gaps and spaces, it’s easy enough exploit and burn opp stamina by doing so.
  • Stonebridge
    1154 posts Professional
    No problem with it, switch to play down the flanks and problem is solved
  • bigpokey24
    5982 posts Big Money Move
    it's easy to over come Constant pressure , switch to coop camp, go possession based and spread the play around the pitch , never pass down the middle, when they press you, lob cross to your wingers, boom goal
  • jonkero
    7221 posts Big Money Move
    One time it's drop back other time is constant pressure. Oké do we all need to play on balanced or something? :):D
  • Stfc98
    130 posts Sunday League Hero
    Xtc wrote: »
    the game is not player a vs player b ..its player a vs AI and player b vs AI ..the one who handles the AI best wins . Thats not enjoyable as with youtube and forums, almost every player sets up his AI to play the same way. Throw in the random RNG aspect and you have fifa19 ...a grind of a game with very limited variety.

    problem is many keep playing in case of a patch because they dont want to be left behind and love football.

    for me, this is the worst edition to date simply for this reason. its potentially the very best to date, but the way its balanced ruins it for me.
    Couldn't agree more if I tried
  • Cornushon
    5598 posts Big Money Move
    Aspral wrote: »
    How are they scared to make big patches but add this unrelenting constant press in the game? It's such an extreme thing to add.

    It doesn't require a player to be skillful to use either since it's the ai defending. It makes a less skillful player not have to defend for themselves

    How is it acceptable for the ai to hunt you down in packs and tackle you? The ai shouldnt tackle ever.

    People will say learn to pass and so on. But it's beyond difficult and especially with lag that delays your reaction to beat constant press which is entirely the ai doing all the work for your opponent.

    People can switch and tackle. Constant press is sucking the life out of the game. It's like playing squad battles against legendary.

    I found that constant pressure less effective than press on the bad touch! Try it yourself;)
  • Xtc
    5186 posts Big Money Move
    xEB50x wrote: »
    The answer is stamina. They should only get a total of 45 mins game time worth of all out press tactics. If they use constent press for the entire 1st half, they should be on low yellow, or red stamina. This would be realistic, and it could be used here and there throughout a game, like a true tactic. Take their stamina, and clean up this unrealistic tactic.

    except ive seen player in the red still perform amazing feats. The problem wiht this game is it feels like actual stats are often overpowered by the situational AI

    - ❤️❤️❤️❤️ out muscling/out jumping big strong CBs
    - poor shooters banging in worldies at key times
    - great passers misplacing them at key times
    - bad passers delivering inch perfect crosses at key times

    and i this case, players on low stamina with poor pace out stripping fresh fast players.

    The inconsistencies are what make the game appear so random.

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