Fifa is now more pay to win than ever before? change my mind.

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  • maksi
    6504 posts Big Money Move
    Rewards from WL, Rivals and Squad Battles give way more consumables than you will ever need.
    you can sell squad fitness for a lot of coins, so by using them instead selling them you're losing coins, that's the point

  • I know this is late but i came across this thread and had to comment...the OP is in the same postion that i used to be in, however i would like to share a couple of tricks i've learned to help deal with the issue.

    Source: I'm a casual player, but i trained as an economist and many of the same rules apply to FUT as they do to finance!

    1) if you are short on coins, don't go for untradeable rewards - i mean c'mon, you can't be surprised if you arent in profit if you keep taking the non-saleable assets rather than the tradable ones or the coins themselves.

    2) lets assume you are able to finish rank 1 div 5 for one week, you can take home 45k in coins i think? somewhere around that mark. Well for 45k coins you can build a useable, cheap squad. Lots of suggested squads available across youtube. Pop all of your first team's players on your second team's reserve and subs list, and vis-versa. Then just alternate which squad you play with match to match. while you play with team 1, team 2 will recover their fitness (assuming you complete the full 90mins). Yes you will lose fitness on anyone you use as a sub, but individual fitness items are very cheap and usually plentiful for anyone whos opened any packs recently.

    Now of course your team 2 will be well short of the general standard of the game in January, but that is because everyone else has been building their teams since October.

    Nonetheless, use this trick and you will no longer have to buy a squad fitness item every 2 games, and i promise you, you will see the savings and you can re-invest them back in to your squads.

    If you want a hand building up a prem or bundesliga squad for the cost of one week's div rivals give me a shout and i'll give you some tips.

    3) I know you say you dont play FUT to trade, and i respect that, it is rather tedious. There are a few things you can do though. Download the companion app on your phone and you can trade when you're on the train or whenever you have nothing else to do. Happy to share a safe and reliable (and not too time consuming) method of building your coins.

    4) final tip from me for now, DONT BUY PACKS! not for points and not for coins! if you do the maths, it will show you that packs are not good value. the actual chances of gaining enough players to justify the coin cost of opening the packs is less than 1/1. Just like a casino, the house always wins, and EA are the house! plenty of ways of demonstrating this to be true but i wont delve too deep on a causal forum. The point is, wherever possible, save coins, target the player on the transfer market that you think will strengthen your squad, and save up for him. it is a much surer way of improving your squad with the players you want.

    5) find value in the transfer market! if you spend just 10 minutes trading you will see what i mean. So many people overpay because they don't put the time in. For most that means losing a few hundred coins per signing by using BIN, but those loses mount up! and when you're signing higher value players, the loses only get bigger.

    Anyway thats enough from me for now! hope some of these ideas help and feel free to give me a shout if i can help further.



  • salvadordali1
    304 posts Sunday League Hero
    hienze91 wrote: »
    I know this is late but i came across this thread and had to comment...the OP is in the same postion that i used to be in, however i would like to share a couple of tricks i've learned to help deal with the issue.

    Source: I'm a casual player, but i trained as an economist and many of the same rules apply to FUT as they do to finance!

    1) if you are short on coins, don't go for untradeable rewards - i mean c'mon, you can't be surprised if you arent in profit if you keep taking the non-saleable assets rather than the tradable ones or the coins themselves.

    2) lets assume you are able to finish rank 1 div 5 for one week, you can take home 45k in coins i think? somewhere around that mark. Well for 45k coins you can build a useable, cheap squad. Lots of suggested squads available across youtube. Pop all of your first team's players on your second team's reserve and subs list, and vis-versa. Then just alternate which squad you play with match to match. while you play with team 1, team 2 will recover their fitness (assuming you complete the full 90mins). Yes you will lose fitness on anyone you use as a sub, but individual fitness items are very cheap and usually plentiful for anyone whos opened any packs recently.

    Now of course your team 2 will be well short of the general standard of the game in January, but that is because everyone else has been building their teams since October.

    Nonetheless, use this trick and you will no longer have to buy a squad fitness item every 2 games, and i promise you, you will see the savings and you can re-invest them back in to your squads.

    If you want a hand building up a prem or bundesliga squad for the cost of one week's div rivals give me a shout and i'll give you some tips.

    3) I know you say you dont play FUT to trade, and i respect that, it is rather tedious. There are a few things you can do though. Download the companion app on your phone and you can trade when you're on the train or whenever you have nothing else to do. Happy to share a safe and reliable (and not too time consuming) method of building your coins.

    4) final tip from me for now, DONT BUY PACKS! not for points and not for coins! if you do the maths, it will show you that packs are not good value. the actual chances of gaining enough players to justify the coin cost of opening the packs is less than 1/1. Just like a casino, the house always wins, and EA are the house! plenty of ways of demonstrating this to be true but i wont delve too deep on a causal forum. The point is, wherever possible, save coins, target the player on the transfer market that you think will strengthen your squad, and save up for him. it is a much surer way of improving your squad with the players you want.

    5) find value in the transfer market! if you spend just 10 minutes trading you will see what i mean. So many people overpay because they don't put the time in. For most that means losing a few hundred coins per signing by using BIN, but those loses mount up! and when you're signing higher value players, the loses only get bigger.

    Anyway thats enough from me for now! hope some of these ideas help and feel free to give me a shout if i can help further.



    everything you said is obvious.

    i finish regulary in gold1 wl and div 2-3. Last two weeks i was div 4 rank2 because i gave up on rivals because of all this crap what was going on this futmas. Ive finished with this game, im playing till gold 3 if i can manage that in two days great if not who cares.Free Icons pack in FUT18 was a banger to me and show me how stupid i am to play this game. Also Futmas countdown to pack promos did the trick, i have no interest or passion to find some free time to grind this game since everytime when i give an extra effort this game show me how irrelavant we are to them.

    And for the webapp suggestion. I dont want to be fifa slave and every little moment check transfer market on my mobile. When i decide that i will play some then ill turn the game on and thats it, im not spending every oportunity to chase literally few coins.
  • Only trying to help!

    If everything was so obvious why have you bleated throughout this thread that you can't make any coins because they all go on squad fitness?

    I think you might just be having a little moan and a sulk, i'm here to tell you that it is possible (without spending every waking moment playing) to build a good team without spending money. If you aren't prepared to take people's advice and prefer to moan, then the very best of luck to you. Maybe try online seasons? or pro evo?
  • salvadordali1
    304 posts Sunday League Hero
    hienze91 wrote: »
    Only trying to help!

    If everything was so obvious why have you bleated throughout this thread that you can't make any coins because they all go on squad fitness?

    I think you might just be having a little moan and a sulk, i'm here to tell you that it is possible (without spending every waking moment playing) to build a good team without spending money. If you aren't prepared to take people's advice and prefer to moan, then the very best of luck to you. Maybe try online seasons? or pro evo?

    actually dear hienze, i have pretty decent team. Only thing that can upgrade my team is an icon or pogba. I dont have losing streaks or any other problems that i could moan about.

    Im just saying that i lost interest in this game so early with decent team just because im full of playing without any real excitement(lets call it that). Never spent and FP and never will because of two things. Packs are waaay to expensive to even consider spending some real money on them, and ofc this game will expire in about 8-9 months so there is no point to fill money into something that will expire in a year.

    And as a footnote, some packs are 20€+ and 4% is to get 87+ i think, not sure bout that. But in this 4% there may be 99% that you will get low end wallkout like pique or others. Imo not right value for the money. If this game would last longe for a 2-3 years, or if i could transfer some percentage of a coins, untreadable players etc. Then i would have no problem to spent 20 or even more euros on this game every month.

    I appriciate your help, these were good advices. But all i will do with trading is puting all players that i get on thu to tranfer list and list them up. Wont be chasing some 200, 300 coins profit even if that means that ill never be able to afford an icon because i dont rly need one.
  • sanjay17
    410 posts Sunday League Hero
    hienze91 wrote: »
    Happy to share a safe and reliable (and not too time consuming) method of building your coins.

    yes please
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