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  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

  • Mart
    8180 posts League Winner
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.
  • R4z0RB4cK
    171 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    WryLucky wrote: »
    It's funny how some people are seething over this :D

    I know mate, it makes me laugh, some people are taking it far too seriously, for most of us, the extra games England got to play just meant another sesh in the pub getting ❤️❤️❤️❤️ faced, then chucking a sickie the next day.

    The OP must have had this post typed up for the end of the group stages, his finger hovering over the send button as soon as the full time whistle went. We kept winning and he kept having to alter his post, I bet he wet himself when we got knocked out so he could finally post his drivel.
  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.

    I wasn’t aiming that directly at you, it was the other 4 pages of drivel and pretty much the reason I posted in here.

    We are all fully aware of the level our team is at, why do you think we were all jokingly calling GS a genius for avoiding the other side of the draw, because the whole country is aware that this young team are not at the level to beat a top team. We fully expected to be beaten by Columbia and the fact we finally won a penalty competition (our first ever at the World Cup) gave us hope that finally the team were exorcising demons of the past. We expected a tough game against Sweden but they didn’t bother turning up which isn’t our fault. The semi final to anyone not jumping on the bandwagon was rock solid and proved a step too far.. but after watching England for about 30 years I can tell you that the mere pride and fighting spirit shown by them (reminiscent of Terry Butcher and co) was enough to give our fans an immense sense of pride, believe me this is more down to watching the likes of Rooney strolling about for the last 12 years doing nothing than us thinking this team were good enough to win the World Cup.

  • Mart
    8180 posts League Winner
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.

    I wasn’t aiming that directly at you, it was the other 4 pages of drivel and pretty much the reason I posted in here.

    We are all fully aware of the level our team is at, why do you think we were all jokingly calling GS a genius for avoiding the other side of the draw, because the whole country is aware that this young team are not at the level to beat a top team. We fully expected to be beaten by Columbia and the fact we finally won a penalty competition (our first ever at the World Cup) gave us hope that finally the team were exorcising demons of the past. We expected a tough game against Sweden but they didn’t bother turning up which isn’t our fault. The semi final to anyone not jumping on the bandwagon was rock solid and proved a step too far.. but after watching England for about 30 years I can tell you that the mere pride and fighting spirit shown by them (reminiscent of Terry Butcher and co) was enough to give our fans an immense sense of pride, believe me this is more down to watching the likes of Rooney strolling about for the last 12 years doing nothing than us thinking this team were good enough to win the World Cup.

    I think you've misread. I rate your team above Colombia and Sweden by a very comfortable margin. In my eyes you were very clear favourites for both games.
  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    R4z0RB4cK wrote: »
    WryLucky wrote: »
    It's funny how some people are seething over this :D

    I know mate, it makes me laugh, some people are taking it far too seriously, for most of us, the extra games England got to play just meant another sesh in the pub getting **** faced, then chucking a sickie the next day.

    The OP must have had this post typed up for the end of the group stages, his finger hovering over the send button as soon as the full time whistle went. We kept winning and he kept having to alter his post, I bet he wet himself when we got knocked out so he could finally post his drivel.

    This pretty much, sad

  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.

    I wasn’t aiming that directly at you, it was the other 4 pages of drivel and pretty much the reason I posted in here.

    We are all fully aware of the level our team is at, why do you think we were all jokingly calling GS a genius for avoiding the other side of the draw, because the whole country is aware that this young team are not at the level to beat a top team. We fully expected to be beaten by Columbia and the fact we finally won a penalty competition (our first ever at the World Cup) gave us hope that finally the team were exorcising demons of the past. We expected a tough game against Sweden but they didn’t bother turning up which isn’t our fault. The semi final to anyone not jumping on the bandwagon was rock solid and proved a step too far.. but after watching England for about 30 years I can tell you that the mere pride and fighting spirit shown by them (reminiscent of Terry Butcher and co) was enough to give our fans an immense sense of pride, believe me this is more down to watching the likes of Rooney strolling about for the last 12 years doing nothing than us thinking this team were good enough to win the World Cup.

    I think you've misread. I rate your team above Colombia and Sweden by a very comfortable margin. In my eyes you were very clear favourites for both games.

    Yes but we didn’t and that’s the whole point, we have been accused of hyping our team up and assuming it was ‘coming home’ when in fact most of us literally just went along for the ride. Pretty much anyone under 25-26 in England have never seen them even play well never mind looking like winning.

  • Hicksy2011
    19119 posts World Class
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.

    I wasn’t aiming that directly at you, it was the other 4 pages of drivel and pretty much the reason I posted in here.

    We are all fully aware of the level our team is at, why do you think we were all jokingly calling GS a genius for avoiding the other side of the draw, because the whole country is aware that this young team are not at the level to beat a top team. We fully expected to be beaten by Columbia and the fact we finally won a penalty competition (our first ever at the World Cup) gave us hope that finally the team were exorcising demons of the past. We expected a tough game against Sweden but they didn’t bother turning up which isn’t our fault. The semi final to anyone not jumping on the bandwagon was rock solid and proved a step too far.. but after watching England for about 30 years I can tell you that the mere pride and fighting spirit shown by them (reminiscent of Terry Butcher and co) was enough to give our fans an immense sense of pride, believe me this is more down to watching the likes of Rooney strolling about for the last 12 years doing nothing than us thinking this team were good enough to win the World Cup.

    I think you've misread. I rate your team above Colombia and Sweden by a very comfortable margin. In my eyes you were very clear favourites for both games.

    Yeh that's where the difference is, I only think we were slight favourites in those games
  • Alex_cr
    5936 posts Big Money Move
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.

    I wasn’t aiming that directly at you, it was the other 4 pages of drivel and pretty much the reason I posted in here.

    We are all fully aware of the level our team is at, why do you think we were all jokingly calling GS a genius for avoiding the other side of the draw, because the whole country is aware that this young team are not at the level to beat a top team. We fully expected to be beaten by Columbia and the fact we finally won a penalty competition (our first ever at the World Cup) gave us hope that finally the team were exorcising demons of the past. We expected a tough game against Sweden but they didn’t bother turning up which isn’t our fault. The semi final to anyone not jumping on the bandwagon was rock solid and proved a step too far.. but after watching England for about 30 years I can tell you that the mere pride and fighting spirit shown by them (reminiscent of Terry Butcher and co) was enough to give our fans an immense sense of pride, believe me this is more down to watching the likes of Rooney strolling about for the last 12 years doing nothing than us thinking this team were good enough to win the World Cup.

    I think you've misread. I rate your team above Colombia and Sweden by a very comfortable margin. In my eyes you were very clear favourites for both games.

    Yes but we didn’t and that’s the whole point, we have been accused of hyping our team up and assuming it was ‘coming home’ when in fact most of us literally just went along for the ride. Pretty much anyone under 25-26 in England have never seen them even play well never mind looking like winning.

    I’m 33 and I’ve seen them play well a couple of times in 96 :D:D:D
  • Mart
    8180 posts League Winner
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.

    I wasn’t aiming that directly at you, it was the other 4 pages of drivel and pretty much the reason I posted in here.

    We are all fully aware of the level our team is at, why do you think we were all jokingly calling GS a genius for avoiding the other side of the draw, because the whole country is aware that this young team are not at the level to beat a top team. We fully expected to be beaten by Columbia and the fact we finally won a penalty competition (our first ever at the World Cup) gave us hope that finally the team were exorcising demons of the past. We expected a tough game against Sweden but they didn’t bother turning up which isn’t our fault. The semi final to anyone not jumping on the bandwagon was rock solid and proved a step too far.. but after watching England for about 30 years I can tell you that the mere pride and fighting spirit shown by them (reminiscent of Terry Butcher and co) was enough to give our fans an immense sense of pride, believe me this is more down to watching the likes of Rooney strolling about for the last 12 years doing nothing than us thinking this team were good enough to win the World Cup.

    I think you've misread. I rate your team above Colombia and Sweden by a very comfortable margin. In my eyes you were very clear favourites for both games.

    Yes but we didn’t and that’s the whole point, we have been accused of hyping our team up and assuming it was ‘coming home’ when in fact most of us literally just went along for the ride. Pretty much anyone under 25-26 in England have never seen them even play well never mind looking like winning.

    Wouldn't read too much into the accusations. You said it yourself, who cares what the rest of the world thinks? Ultimately the entire nation is happy with a run to the semi-finals which is more than fair enough. From an outsider's perspective however, it is a bitterly disappointing end to a run with extremely fortunate circumstances.
  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    Alex_cr wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.

    I wasn’t aiming that directly at you, it was the other 4 pages of drivel and pretty much the reason I posted in here.

    We are all fully aware of the level our team is at, why do you think we were all jokingly calling GS a genius for avoiding the other side of the draw, because the whole country is aware that this young team are not at the level to beat a top team. We fully expected to be beaten by Columbia and the fact we finally won a penalty competition (our first ever at the World Cup) gave us hope that finally the team were exorcising demons of the past. We expected a tough game against Sweden but they didn’t bother turning up which isn’t our fault. The semi final to anyone not jumping on the bandwagon was rock solid and proved a step too far.. but after watching England for about 30 years I can tell you that the mere pride and fighting spirit shown by them (reminiscent of Terry Butcher and co) was enough to give our fans an immense sense of pride, believe me this is more down to watching the likes of Rooney strolling about for the last 12 years doing nothing than us thinking this team were good enough to win the World Cup.

    I think you've misread. I rate your team above Colombia and Sweden by a very comfortable margin. In my eyes you were very clear favourites for both games.

    Yes but we didn’t and that’s the whole point, we have been accused of hyping our team up and assuming it was ‘coming home’ when in fact most of us literally just went along for the ride. Pretty much anyone under 25-26 in England have never seen them even play well never mind looking like winning.

    I’m 33 and I’ve seen them play well a couple of times in 96 :D:D:D

    Exactly mate, and 98 was ok too I suppose, what’s followed has been a disgrace. My first tournament was 1990 as I’m not far off 38, I remember the blood on butcher after the qualifier and Gazza crying etc, when players cared. We finally had players who care again, 20 years later.

  • R4z0RB4cK
    171 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Anyway why shouldn't we be arrogant, after all the world was supposed to end in 2012, but the Universe said ❤️❤️❤️❤️ it, we will postpone the end of the world until England win another world cup.
  • Alex_cr
    5936 posts Big Money Move
    Alex_cr wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.

    I wasn’t aiming that directly at you, it was the other 4 pages of drivel and pretty much the reason I posted in here.

    We are all fully aware of the level our team is at, why do you think we were all jokingly calling GS a genius for avoiding the other side of the draw, because the whole country is aware that this young team are not at the level to beat a top team. We fully expected to be beaten by Columbia and the fact we finally won a penalty competition (our first ever at the World Cup) gave us hope that finally the team were exorcising demons of the past. We expected a tough game against Sweden but they didn’t bother turning up which isn’t our fault. The semi final to anyone not jumping on the bandwagon was rock solid and proved a step too far.. but after watching England for about 30 years I can tell you that the mere pride and fighting spirit shown by them (reminiscent of Terry Butcher and co) was enough to give our fans an immense sense of pride, believe me this is more down to watching the likes of Rooney strolling about for the last 12 years doing nothing than us thinking this team were good enough to win the World Cup.

    I think you've misread. I rate your team above Colombia and Sweden by a very comfortable margin. In my eyes you were very clear favourites for both games.

    Yes but we didn’t and that’s the whole point, we have been accused of hyping our team up and assuming it was ‘coming home’ when in fact most of us literally just went along for the ride. Pretty much anyone under 25-26 in England have never seen them even play well never mind looking like winning.

    I’m 33 and I’ve seen them play well a couple of times in 96 :D:D:D

    Exactly mate, and 98 was ok too I suppose, what’s followed has been a disgrace. My first tournament was 1990 as I’m not far off 38, I remember the blood on butcher after the qualifier and Gazza crying etc, when players cared. We finally had players who care again, 20 years later.

    Yeah 98 was really unfortunate, shouldn’t have overlooked that. But since then it’s been horrible culminating in that Iceland game. After that I thought I was done with England but they’ve pulled it back to an extent this tournament.

    Just cracks me up all these people who are so ❤️❤️❤️❤️ sure that we were dead serious with the whole it’s coming home thing. I guess no other nation are able to take the Micky out of themselves
  • CharlieC
    7433 posts League Winner
    It makes me laugh when people say we went too far with the “it’s coming home” stuff. It was a fantastic bit of fun. Supporting a sports team or individual should be about believing you can beat everyone and not the boring negativity that we’ve heard too often.

    We all knew that the Jocks and the Paddy’s would jump straight on it as soon as we lost and that’s fine but it makes it even more funny to me because they are so bitter and petty. I love winding them up because I know they’ll never win anything and so do they.



  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    Alex_cr wrote: »
    Alex_cr wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Mart wrote: »
    Vert wrote: »
    Being favourites doesnt mean **** for England in the WC pal

    Don't care what it means for you. Getting to the semis with your squad and the opposition should be a formality. Having some players perform at a good level for the first time in a decade doesn't suddenly make it an enormous achievement.

    The Achievment was getting our fans back onside and making the nation actually want to watch the team again, you are completely and utterly missing the point.

    That's not an objective footballing achievement. You may be happy with that and rightfully so, but it's not something the rest of the world will care about or should recognise as one.
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    Not even close to knowing what you are talking about
    Oh yeh it was a formality to beat a Sweden team that won their group that included Germany and have won competitive games against France, Holland and Italy in the last 2 years
    Was such a formality to beat a Colombia side that again won their group including taking Poland to absolute pieces
    Not to mention that we hardly rolled over, if the ball hadn't taken the most miraculous deflection off of Subasic to somehow go over the bar then we would have been 2 up and probably go on to win the game
    AET defeat is hardly rolling over

    You were horrendous, having the quality to do much, much better than what was shown.

    Sweden were the only team to lose to Germany in that group, so I don't see how that holds much value. Besides, beating us in the group stage wasn't exactly a massive achievement considering we are actually terrible.

    Colombia missed their star player, and without him they are simply a bang average side that was in absolute headloss from start to finish.

    But we don’t give a **** what the rest of the world thinks about how the team got on, they don’t support us, your arguments are getting worse.

    Except they are not.

    You don't have to care, but don't throw a fit when people rightfully criticise the English for their performance at this World Cup.

    Again I don’t care what people think about the performance, what I do care about is being labelled arrogant and deluded by people who live in other countries and basically glory support one of Europe’s best club teams and have absolutely no idea how the English people think and feel. You are trying to tell a **** Middlesbrough fan he has delusions of grandeur about a Football team he supports, it’s laughable.

    I'm not calling you arrogant, in fact I don't think any of the English fans have been at all, nor do I think your team was overrated. It was rated rather fairly in fact, an exciting squad with lots of quality and a brilliant striker, on paper anyway.

    I didn't call you, or any English fan delusional either. I merely said that you'd have to be delusional to think that it's impossible for a semi-run not to be easy, when it definitely can be under extremely fortunate circumstances.

    I wasn’t aiming that directly at you, it was the other 4 pages of drivel and pretty much the reason I posted in here.

    We are all fully aware of the level our team is at, why do you think we were all jokingly calling GS a genius for avoiding the other side of the draw, because the whole country is aware that this young team are not at the level to beat a top team. We fully expected to be beaten by Columbia and the fact we finally won a penalty competition (our first ever at the World Cup) gave us hope that finally the team were exorcising demons of the past. We expected a tough game against Sweden but they didn’t bother turning up which isn’t our fault. The semi final to anyone not jumping on the bandwagon was rock solid and proved a step too far.. but after watching England for about 30 years I can tell you that the mere pride and fighting spirit shown by them (reminiscent of Terry Butcher and co) was enough to give our fans an immense sense of pride, believe me this is more down to watching the likes of Rooney strolling about for the last 12 years doing nothing than us thinking this team were good enough to win the World Cup.

    I think you've misread. I rate your team above Colombia and Sweden by a very comfortable margin. In my eyes you were very clear favourites for both games.

    Yes but we didn’t and that’s the whole point, we have been accused of hyping our team up and assuming it was ‘coming home’ when in fact most of us literally just went along for the ride. Pretty much anyone under 25-26 in England have never seen them even play well never mind looking like winning.

    I’m 33 and I’ve seen them play well a couple of times in 96 :D:D:D

    Exactly mate, and 98 was ok too I suppose, what’s followed has been a disgrace. My first tournament was 1990 as I’m not far off 38, I remember the blood on butcher after the qualifier and Gazza crying etc, when players cared. We finally had players who care again, 20 years later.

    Yeah 98 was really unfortunate, shouldn’t have overlooked that. But since then it’s been horrible culminating in that Iceland game. After that I thought I was done with England but they’ve pulled it back to an extent this tournament.

    Just cracks me up all these people who are so **** sure that we were dead serious with the whole it’s coming home thing. I guess no other nation are able to take the Micky out of themselves

    You would think the fact we don’t riot after being knocked out like a lot of other countries would give people the hint we don’t take it too serious. It is funny though how utterly wrong people on this forum have got this.

  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    CharlieC wrote: »
    It makes me laugh when people say we went too far with the “it’s coming home” stuff. It was a fantastic bit of fun. Supporting a sports team or individual should be about believing you can beat everyone and not the boring negativity that we’ve heard too often.

    We all knew that the Jocks and the Paddy’s would jump straight on it as soon as we lost and that’s fine but it makes it even more funny to me because they are so bitter and petty. I love winding them up because I know they’ll never win anything and so do they.



    You only have to read the nasty vile comments between Celtic and Rangers fans on BT Sports Facebook page to know how pathetic and bitter they are, their lives must be horrible being that angry about everything all the time.

  • forearms
    6353 posts Big Money Move
    CharlieC wrote: »
    It makes me laugh when people say we went too far with the “it’s coming home” stuff. It was a fantastic bit of fun. Supporting a sports team or individual should be about believing you can beat everyone and not the boring negativity that we’ve heard too often.

    We all knew that the Jocks and the Paddy’s would jump straight on it as soon as we lost and that’s fine but it makes it even more funny to me because they are so bitter and petty. I love winding them up because I know they’ll never win anything and so do they.



    I think if you were on the outside of it, I would guess you would think it played out pretty quickly. Hey, good in you guys for having a team that made it as far as it did. Im not salty. You can do whatever you want. I do think though that you shouldn't be so surprised/hurt/offended that others wanted it to stop.
  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    forearms wrote: »
    CharlieC wrote: »
    It makes me laugh when people say we went too far with the “it’s coming home” stuff. It was a fantastic bit of fun. Supporting a sports team or individual should be about believing you can beat everyone and not the boring negativity that we’ve heard too often.

    We all knew that the Jocks and the Paddy’s would jump straight on it as soon as we lost and that’s fine but it makes it even more funny to me because they are so bitter and petty. I love winding them up because I know they’ll never win anything and so do they.



    I think if you were on the outside of it, I would guess you would think it played out pretty quickly. Hey, good in you guys for having a team that made it as far as it did. Im not salty. You can do whatever you want. I do think though that you shouldn't be so surprised/hurt/offended that others wanted it to stop.

    We don’t care about that, we just care that these fools thought we actually believed our team would win the World Cup, I sit in a stadium freezing my bollocks off every other week watching a team play ❤️❤️❤️❤️, why would I suddenly start thinking our failed national team were any good.

  • n2j2000
    2503 posts Fans' Favourite
    R4z0RB4cK wrote: »
    WryLucky wrote: »
    It's funny how some people are seething over this :D

    I know mate, it makes me laugh, some people are taking it far too seriously, for most of us, the extra games England got to play just meant another sesh in the pub getting **** faced, then chucking a sickie the next day.

    “Another sesh in the pub”, “getting **** faced”, “chucking a sickie the next day”.... grow up mate. Pretty much sums up the sadness of England fans if that’s what the WC is all about for them, trying to wind up and antagonise opposition fans and the whole we don’t care if nobody likes us attitude.
  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    n2j2000 wrote: »
    R4z0RB4cK wrote: »
    WryLucky wrote: »
    It's funny how some people are seething over this :D

    I know mate, it makes me laugh, some people are taking it far too seriously, for most of us, the extra games England got to play just meant another sesh in the pub getting **** faced, then chucking a sickie the next day.

    “Another sesh in the pub”, “getting **** faced”, “chucking a sickie the next day”.... grow up mate. Pretty much sums up the sadness of England fans if that’s what the WC is all about for them, trying to wind up and antagonise opposition fans and the whole we don’t care if nobody likes us attitude.

    No we just don’t care that you don’t like us you crank

  • Handy Andy
    6365 posts Big Money Move
    n2j2000 wrote: »
    R4z0RB4cK wrote: »
    WryLucky wrote: »
    It's funny how some people are seething over this :D

    I know mate, it makes me laugh, some people are taking it far too seriously, for most of us, the extra games England got to play just meant another sesh in the pub getting **** faced, then chucking a sickie the next day.

    “Another sesh in the pub”, “getting **** faced”, “chucking a sickie the next day”.... grow up mate. Pretty much sums up the sadness of England fans if that’s what the WC is all about for them, trying to wind up and antagonise opposition fans and the whole we don’t care if nobody likes us attitude.

    You literally made a thread to wind England fans up and are now having a go at England fans for antagonising opposition fans lmao
  • Hicksy2011
    19119 posts World Class
    n2j2000 wrote: »
    R4z0RB4cK wrote: »
    WryLucky wrote: »
    It's funny how some people are seething over this :D

    I know mate, it makes me laugh, some people are taking it far too seriously, for most of us, the extra games England got to play just meant another sesh in the pub getting **** faced, then chucking a sickie the next day.

    “Another sesh in the pub”, “getting **** faced”, “chucking a sickie the next day”.... grow up mate. Pretty much sums up the sadness of England fans if that’s what the WC is all about for them, trying to wind up and antagonise opposition fans and the whole we don’t care if nobody likes us attitude.

    What part of some bloke you have never met going to the pub antagonises you?
  • forearms
    6353 posts Big Money Move
    forearms wrote: »
    CharlieC wrote: »
    It makes me laugh when people say we went too far with the “it’s coming home” stuff. It was a fantastic bit of fun. Supporting a sports team or individual should be about believing you can beat everyone and not the boring negativity that we’ve heard too often.

    We all knew that the Jocks and the Paddy’s would jump straight on it as soon as we lost and that’s fine but it makes it even more funny to me because they are so bitter and petty. I love winding them up because I know they’ll never win anything and so do they.



    I think if you were on the outside of it, I would guess you would think it played out pretty quickly. Hey, good in you guys for having a team that made it as far as it did. Im not salty. You can do whatever you want. I do think though that you shouldn't be so surprised/hurt/offended that others wanted it to stop.

    We don’t care about that, we just care that these fools thought we actually believed our team would win the World Cup, I sit in a stadium freezing my bollocks off every other week watching a team play ****, why would I suddenly start thinking our failed national team were any good.

    Never mind then. You obviously totally missed everything I said.
  • Hicksy2011
    19119 posts World Class
    n2j2000 wrote: »
    R4z0RB4cK wrote: »
    WryLucky wrote: »
    It's funny how some people are seething over this :D

    I know mate, it makes me laugh, some people are taking it far too seriously, for most of us, the extra games England got to play just meant another sesh in the pub getting **** faced, then chucking a sickie the next day.

    “Another sesh in the pub”, “getting **** faced”, “chucking a sickie the next day”.... grow up mate. Pretty much sums up the sadness of England fans if that’s what the WC is all about for them, trying to wind up and antagonise opposition fans and the whole we don’t care if nobody likes us attitude.

    No we just don’t care that you don’t like us you crank

    With the way a lot of non English Brits are towards us, if I cared I would probably have resorted to pretending not to be english by now :joy:
  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    forearms wrote: »
    forearms wrote: »
    CharlieC wrote: »
    It makes me laugh when people say we went too far with the “it’s coming home” stuff. It was a fantastic bit of fun. Supporting a sports team or individual should be about believing you can beat everyone and not the boring negativity that we’ve heard too often.

    We all knew that the Jocks and the Paddy’s would jump straight on it as soon as we lost and that’s fine but it makes it even more funny to me because they are so bitter and petty. I love winding them up because I know they’ll never win anything and so do they.



    I think if you were on the outside of it, I would guess you would think it played out pretty quickly. Hey, good in you guys for having a team that made it as far as it did. Im not salty. You can do whatever you want. I do think though that you shouldn't be so surprised/hurt/offended that others wanted it to stop.

    We don’t care about that, we just care that these fools thought we actually believed our team would win the World Cup, I sit in a stadium freezing my bollocks off every other week watching a team play ****, why would I suddenly start thinking our failed national team were any good.

    Never mind then. You obviously totally missed everything I said.

    No I got it, I’m just saying that we aren’t surprised that people wanted it to stop, what has surprised us is how serious people thought we all were. A lot of fans actually think we were stupid enough to believe England would steam roll this tournament.

  • opasni_
    3686 posts National Call-Up
    ICUP wrote: »
    opasni_ wrote: »
    ICUP wrote: »
    opasni_ wrote: »
    n2j2000 wrote: »
    Teams that England beat at this World Cup:-

    Tunisia
    Panama
    Columbia (on pens)
    Sweden

    Don’t get me wrong, I think England had a decent tournament but based on the opposition they faced and their road to the final, it has to be classed as another failure.

    I like how people get all uppity about how England only got to the semis because we supposedly had an easy route, but don't mention that Croatia are in the final due to having an easy group (even Argentina were awful) and making hard work of beating three average teams in Denmark Russia and England in the knockout rounds.

    Easy group hahahaha

    Before the WC, group was called group of death, probably toughest one in whole WC so shut your mouth.

    You are trying to undermine Croatia success, they looked more fresh after players 240 mins in last two games and even went to play another 120 mins.

    1 shot on target.

    Denmark, Russia and England average?

    Denmark haven't lost in 18 games, last two years without defeat including game against France and whole qualifiers.

    Russia boosted by playing on home turf, went 0-1 and Croatia bounced back.

    Denmark, Russia, Island all play defensive and park the bus.

    Spain had problems with Russia and couldn't break them, so you will say that Spain was terrible? Maybe they were, but that just shows how compact Russia were.

    Don't forget we had woodwork from Perisic against Russia, if that one went in we wouldn't get to penalties.

    Also I would like to mention both Denmark and Russia time wasting, especially Denmark with long throw-ins...each time they took 30sec - 1 minute.

    Won't take anything away from croatia they deserved to win BUT:

    You 100% got helped by the ref

    Walker got a yellow card for holding the ball

    Rebic did it TWICE & didn't get carded but only got carded for a tackle in the 2nd half. In all fairness if the ref treated Rebic the same way he treated walker Rebic should be off

    Linesman were clearly told not to call offside unless its clear but yet Kane got flagged up for being offside even though he was on. Even though he scuffed the opportunity the linesman was wrong

    Croatian players were constantly body checking England players and the ref just kept saying play on.

    Ref was trash and aided in croatia winning

    Ref was aiding Croatia? Like in first half when there was clear foul on Rebić but ref didn't call it and England in counter attack made goal-threat situation when Lingaard missed whole target?

    You mean aiding like that?

    Like when Perisic also in 1st half shot deflected of Walker heel and he didn't call corner?

    Also, when there was foul on Croatian midfielder in middle of pitch but ball bounced of his foot and ref called corner for England even tho England player stepped clearly on toe of Croatian player?

    Not to mention prior to Croatia goal that every England player dropped on ground on every single contact.

    There were couple of decisions in favour of Croatia in extra time, but telling that ref pushed us.

    You are delusional.

    Like when we had a corner that came off Lovren & ref called it as a goal kick

    Prior to the croatian goal the croatian players were actually coming in with stupid challenges. Kane is on the wing and he got past one player and another croation player came and bodychecked it and the ref said play on

    If sterling was actually a scum he could have scammed the ref for a Pen after one of the players caught his ankle rather than the ball





    You just confirmed my point. You were just looking at England and not at Croatia.

    Ref made mistakes on both ends, couple of them.

    End of story.

    Stop saying like England was only one damaged by ref.
  • They Caged Non
    6553 posts Big Money Move
    Hicksy2011 wrote: »
    n2j2000 wrote: »
    R4z0RB4cK wrote: »
    WryLucky wrote: »
    It's funny how some people are seething over this :D

    I know mate, it makes me laugh, some people are taking it far too seriously, for most of us, the extra games England got to play just meant another sesh in the pub getting **** faced, then chucking a sickie the next day.

    “Another sesh in the pub”, “getting **** faced”, “chucking a sickie the next day”.... grow up mate. Pretty much sums up the sadness of England fans if that’s what the WC is all about for them, trying to wind up and antagonise opposition fans and the whole we don’t care if nobody likes us attitude.

    No we just don’t care that you don’t like us you crank

    With the way a lot of non English Brits are towards us, if I cared I would probably have resorted to pretending not to be english by now :joy:

    Hahaha ikr, isn’t it funny how we are meant to be so hated yet I’ve been to a match in Germany with 16 lads on a stag do and their fans couldn’t have been more welcoming, we love Football and will watch it pretty much anywhere and other countries proper fans love that.
  • forearms
    6353 posts Big Money Move
    forearms wrote: »
    forearms wrote: »
    CharlieC wrote: »
    It makes me laugh when people say we went too far with the “it’s coming home” stuff. It was a fantastic bit of fun. Supporting a sports team or individual should be about believing you can beat everyone and not the boring negativity that we’ve heard too often.

    We all knew that the Jocks and the Paddy’s would jump straight on it as soon as we lost and that’s fine but it makes it even more funny to me because they are so bitter and petty. I love winding them up because I know they’ll never win anything and so do they.



    I think if you were on the outside of it, I would guess you would think it played out pretty quickly. Hey, good in you guys for having a team that made it as far as it did. Im not salty. You can do whatever you want. I do think though that you shouldn't be so surprised/hurt/offended that others wanted it to stop.

    We don’t care about that, we just care that these fools thought we actually believed our team would win the World Cup, I sit in a stadium freezing my bollocks off every other week watching a team play ****, why would I suddenly start thinking our failed national team were any good.

    Never mind then. You obviously totally missed everything I said.

    No I got it, I’m just saying that we aren’t surprised that people wanted it to stop, what has surprised us is how serious people thought we all were. A lot of fans actually think we were stupid enough to believe England would steam roll this tournament.

    Nope. You didn't get it. People wanted "its coming home" to stop like they wanted the Spice Girls, or Justin Bieber to stop. It got played out.
  • CharlieC
    7433 posts League Winner
    CharlieC wrote: »
    It makes me laugh when people say we went too far with the “it’s coming home” stuff. It was a fantastic bit of fun. Supporting a sports team or individual should be about believing you can beat everyone and not the boring negativity that we’ve heard too often.

    We all knew that the Jocks and the Paddy’s would jump straight on it as soon as we lost and that’s fine but it makes it even more funny to me because they are so bitter and petty. I love winding them up because I know they’ll never win anything and so do they.



    You only have to read the nasty vile comments between Celtic and Rangers fans on BT Sports Facebook page to know how pathetic and bitter they are, their lives must be horrible being that angry about everything all the time.

    They live very sad lives these morons.
  • Handy Andy
    6365 posts Big Money Move
    Posted on another thread. Even the players are sick of the English attitude.

    "English journalists, pundits from television, they underestimated Croatia and that was a huge mistake," Real Madrid's Modric told ITV. "They should be more humble and respect more opponents.

    "All these words from them we take, we were reading and we were saying, 'OK, today we will see who will be tired'."

    bit late as I was just scrolling through, but compared to the Croatian media ours were saints. They were bragging about beating us before the match was even played :joy:

    Such a bizarre thing with England, if any other country celebrates winning a few games it is fine but as soon as we are happy at winning a few world cup games, we get slated as arrogant.

    Modric is living in a fantasy world clearly, all our pundits have been saying he is the best CM in the world, even before we were drawn against them.
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