442 CMs

sofyanm
8645 posts League Winner
edited February 2018
Currently testing this after doing the Dinho SBC
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My CMs do not seem to be very effective in a 442. Who could I use to replace them?
I can sell Maldini and Blanc and use Ake and other CMs that could better work. I got 1.2M to improve it.
I was thinking of Pogba and IF Allan, could it be a good pairing? Any other ideas?

Here is the system I use to have chemistry
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I'm looking also for CT and instructions for the 442.
Cheers

Comments

  • sofyanm
    8645 posts League Winner
    up

    Would Pogba and Vidal work or is it too offensive?
    I have 830k for a cb, either pl or icon any ideas?
  • Killashaw
    1216 posts Professional
    edited February 2018
    Rijkaard next to Blanc shoud work. Vidal next to Blanc is also a good option.
  • Realist
    3494 posts National Call-Up
    I’ve got Paulinho and blanc together and it works well so maybe a h/h or h/m next to blanc should work better than Fabinho
  • sofyanm
    8645 posts League Winner
    Realist wrote: »
    I’ve got Paulinho and blanc together and it works well so maybe a h/h or h/m next to blanc should work better than Fabinho
    Killashaw wrote: »
    Rijkaard next to Blanc shoud work. Vidal next to Blanc is also a good option.
    Thanks for your reviews.
    Unfortunately I sold Blanc, he was lacking something but don’t know what.
    I have now Pogba and Vidal, if you have already played 442 is it too offensive to have one on high/high and one on high/medium or is it fine?

  • JRD
    162 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Only just switched to the formation myself but double h/h has worked great for me in the 20 or so games played.

    I use Futmas Herrera and Prime Petit, the workrates seem to help with the amount of ground they need to cover and gets them involved in attack and defence
  • Addicksfan
    3632 posts National Call-Up
    sofyanm wrote: »
    Realist wrote: »
    I’ve got Paulinho and blanc together and it works well so maybe a h/h or h/m next to blanc should work better than Fabinho
    Killashaw wrote: »
    Rijkaard next to Blanc shoud work. Vidal next to Blanc is also a good option.
    Thanks for your reviews.
    Unfortunately I sold Blanc, he was lacking something but don’t know what.
    I have now Pogba and Vidal, if you have already played 442 is it too offensive to have one on high/high and one on high/medium or is it fine?

    Work rates in 442 that I have found to work are:-

    2 X med/high
    2 X High/High
    1 x Med/High 1 X High/Med
  • Killashaw
    1216 posts Professional
    sofyanm wrote: »
    Realist wrote: »
    I’ve got Paulinho and blanc together and it works well so maybe a h/h or h/m next to blanc should work better than Fabinho
    Killashaw wrote: »
    Rijkaard next to Blanc shoud work. Vidal next to Blanc is also a good option.
    Thanks for your reviews.
    Unfortunately I sold Blanc, he was lacking something but don’t know what.
    I have now Pogba and Vidal, if you have already played 442 is it too offensive to have one on high/high and one on high/medium or is it fine?
    M/H and H/H works good for me. Think you need at least 1 H/H or M/H
  • Mako_Sulu
    538 posts An Exciting Prospect
    I’m using De Bruyne and Casemiro and they work very well together. Need to have a goal threat from midfield IMO.
  • sofyanm
    8645 posts League Winner
    Addicksfan wrote: »
    sofyanm wrote: »
    Realist wrote: »
    I’ve got Paulinho and blanc together and it works well so maybe a h/h or h/m next to blanc should work better than Fabinho
    Killashaw wrote: »
    Rijkaard next to Blanc shoud work. Vidal next to Blanc is also a good option.
    Thanks for your reviews.
    Unfortunately I sold Blanc, he was lacking something but don’t know what.
    I have now Pogba and Vidal, if you have already played 442 is it too offensive to have one on high/high and one on high/medium or is it fine?

    Work rates in 442 that I have found to work are:-

    2 X med/high
    2 X High/High
    1 x Med/High 1 X High/Med
    Addicksfan wrote: »
    sofyanm wrote: »
    Realist wrote: »
    I’ve got Paulinho and blanc together and it works well so maybe a h/h or h/m next to blanc should work better than Fabinho
    Killashaw wrote: »
    Rijkaard next to Blanc shoud work. Vidal next to Blanc is also a good option.
    Thanks for your reviews.
    Unfortunately I sold Blanc, he was lacking something but don’t know what.
    I have now Pogba and Vidal, if you have already played 442 is it too offensive to have one on high/high and one on high/medium or is it fine?

    Work rates in 442 that I have found to work are:-

    2 X med/high
    2 X High/High
    1 x Med/High 1 X High/Med

    Thanks!
    2x High/High isn't too exposed?
    I'm going to give IF Allan / Pogba a go. Do you have instructions on them?
  • Cantona84
    7890 posts League Winner
    Addicksfan wrote: »
    sofyanm wrote: »
    Realist wrote: »
    I’ve got Paulinho and blanc together and it works well so maybe a h/h or h/m next to blanc should work better than Fabinho
    Killashaw wrote: »
    Rijkaard next to Blanc shoud work. Vidal next to Blanc is also a good option.
    Thanks for your reviews.
    Unfortunately I sold Blanc, he was lacking something but don’t know what.
    I have now Pogba and Vidal, if you have already played 442 is it too offensive to have one on high/high and one on high/medium or is it fine?

    Work rates in 442 that I have found to work are:-

    2 X med/high
    2 X High/High
    1 x Med/High 1 X High/Med

    It’s all about quality though. I use Prime Rijk and Prime Vieira and they totally dominate in 442.
  • Addicksfan
    3632 posts National Call-Up
    sofyanm wrote: »
    Addicksfan wrote: »
    sofyanm wrote: »
    Realist wrote: »
    I’ve got Paulinho and blanc together and it works well so maybe a h/h or h/m next to blanc should work better than Fabinho
    Killashaw wrote: »
    Rijkaard next to Blanc shoud work. Vidal next to Blanc is also a good option.
    Thanks for your reviews.
    Unfortunately I sold Blanc, he was lacking something but don’t know what.
    I have now Pogba and Vidal, if you have already played 442 is it too offensive to have one on high/high and one on high/medium or is it fine?

    Work rates in 442 that I have found to work are:-

    2 X med/high
    2 X High/High
    1 x Med/High 1 X High/Med
    Addicksfan wrote: »
    sofyanm wrote: »
    Realist wrote: »
    I’ve got Paulinho and blanc together and it works well so maybe a h/h or h/m next to blanc should work better than Fabinho
    Killashaw wrote: »
    Rijkaard next to Blanc shoud work. Vidal next to Blanc is also a good option.
    Thanks for your reviews.
    Unfortunately I sold Blanc, he was lacking something but don’t know what.
    I have now Pogba and Vidal, if you have already played 442 is it too offensive to have one on high/high and one on high/medium or is it fine?

    Work rates in 442 that I have found to work are:-

    2 X med/high
    2 X High/High
    1 x Med/High 1 X High/Med

    Thanks!
    2x High/High isn't too exposed?
    I'm going to give IF Allan / Pogba a go. Do you have instructions on them?

    IF Allan - SBWA, you can try aggressive interceptions (it might pull him out of position and stamina might be an issue)

    Pogba - balanced (his workrates mean he will naturally get forwards), Get in the box for cross
  • Carswell
    8566 posts League Winner
    @sofyanm Using Poggers Vidal and it’s amazing.
  • AIeks
    5080 posts Big Money Move
    I have a problem with the formation being so "flat" I can't press high enough and straight away because the 2 CM's are so deep. I was wondering if put get forward and aggressive interceptions on one of the CM's, with the other CM staying back would fix it?
  • yerwaltz
    4078 posts National Call-Up
    AIeks wrote: »
    I have a problem with the formation being so "flat" I can't press high enough and straight away because the 2 CM's are so deep. I was wondering if put get forward and aggressive interceptions on one of the CM's, with the other CM staying back would fix it?

    aggressive interceptions does nothing but drain stamina in my experience, also seems the AI will go for the lamest interceptions when not controlling the player, often sliding to the ground when all they needed to do is stick a leg out lol. And when they do that, the other player comes along and grabs the ball while ur guy is still on the ground trying to get up lol.

    I use to do get forward on my more attacking CM (4411) and leave the other stay back but I have found the most success just leaving my two CMs on the default settings. I use IF Isco ( high attacking work rate) and PTG Saul ( high defensive wr) and they both score goals but are always there to defend as well.
  • yerwaltz
    4078 posts National Call-Up
    Mako_Sulu wrote: »
    I’m using De Bruyne and Casemiro and they work very well together. Need to have a goal threat from midfield IMO.

    I agree with this, must have one at least 1 CM that can score and create goals, hints why I use IF isco and PTG saul together.
  • coatsy
    32197 posts National Team Captain
    Gullit and Rijkaard seem to work well together.
  • AIeks
    5080 posts Big Money Move
    yerwaltz wrote: »
    AIeks wrote: »
    I have a problem with the formation being so "flat" I can't press high enough and straight away because the 2 CM's are so deep. I was wondering if put get forward and aggressive interceptions on one of the CM's, with the other CM staying back would fix it?

    aggressive interceptions does nothing but drain stamina in my experience, also seems the AI will go for the lamest interceptions when not controlling the player, often sliding to the ground when all they needed to do is stick a leg out lol. And when they do that, the other player comes along and grabs the ball while ur guy is still on the ground trying to get up lol.

    I use to do get forward on my more attacking CM (4411) and leave the other stay back but I have found the most success just leaving my two CMs on the default settings. I use IF Isco ( high attacking work rate) and PTG Saul ( high defensive wr) and they both score goals but are always there to defend as well.
    Sometimes I really wish you could slightly edit the formation you wanna use...

  • Tloyd09
    1398 posts Professional
    edited February 2018
    I’ve been using 88 petit and SIF Talisca and it works well so far. Solid defense and passing with the option to shoot LCM and slightly less defense with better dribbling and great long shots on the right. Both have height and can pass.
  • Tloyd09
    1398 posts Professional
    edited February 2018
    AIeks wrote: »
    I have a problem with the formation being so "flat" I can't press high enough and straight away because the 2 CM's are so deep. I was wondering if put get forward and aggressive interceptions on one of the CM's, with the other CM staying back would fix it?

    I had that problem and realized I was using 442 holding and switched to 442 standard and was much less of a gap between cm and STR. You could also CT one of your outside mids to cut in and he would act sorta like a cam on one side.
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