Kimmich

Owls4everr
243 posts Sunday League Hero
1. Is he any good?
2. What’s the 86 version Kimmich like?
3. Is the TOTGS worth the extra 80k (160k) he gets an extra 3 pace, 4 Pass, Def, 5 Phy
4. In terms of investment any good? Will he get TOTY?

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  • sheffutd87
    3176 posts National Call-Up
    SIF and TOTGS are both very similar.

    They are excellent allrounders if you don't mind not having 90 pace.

    I used the TOTGS for about 3 weekend leagues and he was very solid. Sometimes if I was under pressure from lots of pace i would sub on a faster RB and move Kimmich to CDM where he was also brilliant
  • Owls4everr
    243 posts Sunday League Hero
    With Shadow he goes to 88/89 pace which is fine as I currently use Valencia
  • Mdx
    2691 posts Fans' Favourite
    Owls4everr wrote: »
    1. Is he any good?
    2. What’s the 86 version Kimmich like?
    3. Is the TOTGS worth the extra 80k (160k) he gets an extra 3 pace, 4 Pass, Def, 5 Phy
    4. In terms of investment any good? Will he get TOTY?

    He is a weakness.
    Rb's and lbs need to be pacey in this game.
    Chemistry style cards simply don't have much effect.
  • Owls4everr
    243 posts Sunday League Hero
    Mdx wrote: »
    Owls4everr wrote: »
    1. Is he any good?
    2. What’s the 86 version Kimmich like?
    3. Is the TOTGS worth the extra 80k (160k) he gets an extra 3 pace, 4 Pass, Def, 5 Phy
    4. In terms of investment any good? Will he get TOTY?

    He is a weakness.
    Rb's and lbs need to be pacey in this game.
    Chemistry style cards simply don't have much effect.

    I find the defensive ones seem to have more of an effect. I never use Hunter as don’t think it works where as Hawk I can feel a difference.
  • mjustic
    1310 posts Professional
    Mdx wrote: »
    Owls4everr wrote: »
    1. Is he any good?
    2. What’s the 86 version Kimmich like?
    3. Is the TOTGS worth the extra 80k (160k) he gets an extra 3 pace, 4 Pass, Def, 5 Phy
    4. In terms of investment any good? Will he get TOTY?

    He is a weakness.
    Rb's and lbs need to be pacey in this game.
    Chemistry style cards simply don't have much effect.

    My guess is you're one of the guys who use Jordan Lukaku as their fullback
  • selb
    6654 posts Big Money Move
    I have TOTGS Kimmich with a Shadow chem and he is immense, I can't recommend him enough, I very rarely find him getting beaten down the wing as he always seems to be in a good position
  • Jax45
    211 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    He is one of maybe 2-3 players in my lineup that never gets a game off. He's too important to my squad to use a backup like Piszczek. He's also really adept at defending aerial crosses and passes. He won't blow you away with strength for a 5'9" player, but he's still above average for his size.

    Keep in mind, I don't mindlessly send my Full Backs forward so I find he's rarely caught out of position. If you're someone who wants their Full Backs overlapping every single time down the field, I don't necessarily recommend him. His lack of Speed is noticeable, at times. I'd imagine people who play WL would not be as high on him.

    Here's the team he features in, for me...

    https://www.futwiz.com/en/fifa18/squad/358618

    I've not used Totgs Kimmich but can't see myself upgrading. Just not worth it, at the moment. Regardless, he's a game changer with his passing/dribbling/defending and a 4* weakfoot and not horrible shooting stats.
  • Socalj11
    1671 posts Play-Off Hero
    I use Kimmich every game even though I have Ballerin as a backup. Kimmich 86 card is never out of position, makes tremendous steals and is fast enough to make runs and crosses to my scorers. He is my permanent corner kick specialist as well. Buy him and see for yourself
  • Mdx
    2691 posts Fans' Favourite
    mjustic wrote: »
    Mdx wrote: »
    Owls4everr wrote: »
    1. Is he any good?
    2. What’s the 86 version Kimmich like?
    3. Is the TOTGS worth the extra 80k (160k) he gets an extra 3 pace, 4 Pass, Def, 5 Phy
    4. In terms of investment any good? Will he get TOTY?

    He is a weakness.
    Rb's and lbs need to be pacey in this game.
    Chemistry style cards simply don't have much effect.

    No I'm just someone who knows how to build a squad that can cope against sweaty prem teams.

    I could keep kimmich in my side and forever have martial running by him.. but nah why would I.
    I'd go from div 1 down to 5 probably so what's the point.
  • Xtc
    5186 posts Big Money Move
    Jax45 wrote: »
    He is one of maybe 2-3 players in my lineup that never gets a game off. He's too important to my squad to use a backup like Piszczek. He's also really adept at defending aerial crosses and passes. He won't blow you away with strength for a 5'9" player, but he's still above average for his size.

    Keep in mind, I don't mindlessly send my Full Backs forward so I find he's rarely caught out of position. If you're someone who wants their Full Backs overlapping every single time down the field, I don't necessarily recommend him. His lack of Speed is noticeable, at times. I'd imagine people who play WL would not be as high on him.

    Here's the team he features in, for me...

    https://www.futwiz.com/en/fifa18/squad/358618

    I've not used Totgs Kimmich but can't see myself upgrading. Just not worth it, at the moment. Regardless, he's a game changer with his passing/dribbling/defending and a 4* weakfoot and not horrible shooting stats.

    Nice team, but highlights UTs issues. A midfield 3 of those guys would get ripped to shreds. not one player that can actually defend in there.
  • Jax45
    211 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited January 2018
    Xtc wrote: »
    Jax45 wrote: »
    He is one of maybe 2-3 players in my lineup that never gets a game off. He's too important to my squad to use a backup like Piszczek. He's also really adept at defending aerial crosses and passes. He won't blow you away with strength for a 5'9" player, but he's still above average for his size.

    Keep in mind, I don't mindlessly send my Full Backs forward so I find he's rarely caught out of position. If you're someone who wants their Full Backs overlapping every single time down the field, I don't necessarily recommend him. His lack of Speed is noticeable, at times. I'd imagine people who play WL would not be as high on him.

    Here's the team he features in, for me...

    https://www.futwiz.com/en/fifa18/squad/358618

    I've not used Totgs Kimmich but can't see myself upgrading. Just not worth it, at the moment. Regardless, he's a game changer with his passing/dribbling/defending and a 4* weakfoot and not horrible shooting stats.

    Nice team, but highlights UTs issues. A midfield 3 of those guys would get ripped to shreds. not one player that can actually defend in there.

    I agree with the point you are making but I disagree about my midfield. Goretzka has decent defensive stats for a CM. Gundogan's are passable but not great. 86 Raffael is just so decent, that I had to find a way to get him into the team. Normally I'd be using Khedira/Castro instead for a more well rounded player(thinking of picking up Vidal).

    I don't know why I am justifying them because you are right, the gameplay is trashy. I don't play WL and just try to have fun with SB's and playing online against friends.


  • Xtc
    5186 posts Big Money Move
    Jax45 wrote: »
    Xtc wrote: »
    Jax45 wrote: »
    He is one of maybe 2-3 players in my lineup that never gets a game off. He's too important to my squad to use a backup like Piszczek. He's also really adept at defending aerial crosses and passes. He won't blow you away with strength for a 5'9" player, but he's still above average for his size.

    Keep in mind, I don't mindlessly send my Full Backs forward so I find he's rarely caught out of position. If you're someone who wants their Full Backs overlapping every single time down the field, I don't necessarily recommend him. His lack of Speed is noticeable, at times. I'd imagine people who play WL would not be as high on him.

    Here's the team he features in, for me...

    https://www.futwiz.com/en/fifa18/squad/358618

    I've not used Totgs Kimmich but can't see myself upgrading. Just not worth it, at the moment. Regardless, he's a game changer with his passing/dribbling/defending and a 4* weakfoot and not horrible shooting stats.

    Nice team, but highlights UTs issues. A midfield 3 of those guys would get ripped to shreds. not one player that can actually defend in there.

    I agree with the point you are making but I disagree about my midfield. Goretzka has decent defensive stats for a CM. Gundogan's are passable but not great. 86 Raffael is just so decent, that I had to find a way to get him into the team. Normally I'd be using Khedira/Castro instead for a more well rounded player(thinking of picking up Vidal).

    I don't know why I am justifying them because you are right, the gameplay is trashy. I don't play WL and just try to have fun with SB's and playing online against friends.


    Mate. Enjoy it. Lovely team. Not trying to diss you at all. Just makes me chuckle how selective they are with "reality"
  • Socalj11
    1671 posts Play-Off Hero
    Yes get Vidal. He can do it all defensively and cdm score in set pieces and individual runs especially from a 4411 as a CM
  • Jax45
    211 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Xtc wrote: »
    Jax45 wrote: »
    Xtc wrote: »
    Jax45 wrote: »
    He is one of maybe 2-3 players in my lineup that never gets a game off. He's too important to my squad to use a backup like Piszczek. He's also really adept at defending aerial crosses and passes. He won't blow you away with strength for a 5'9" player, but he's still above average for his size.

    Keep in mind, I don't mindlessly send my Full Backs forward so I find he's rarely caught out of position. If you're someone who wants their Full Backs overlapping every single time down the field, I don't necessarily recommend him. His lack of Speed is noticeable, at times. I'd imagine people who play WL would not be as high on him.

    Here's the team he features in, for me...

    https://www.futwiz.com/en/fifa18/squad/358618

    I've not used Totgs Kimmich but can't see myself upgrading. Just not worth it, at the moment. Regardless, he's a game changer with his passing/dribbling/defending and a 4* weakfoot and not horrible shooting stats.

    Nice team, but highlights UTs issues. A midfield 3 of those guys would get ripped to shreds. not one player that can actually defend in there.

    I agree with the point you are making but I disagree about my midfield. Goretzka has decent defensive stats for a CM. Gundogan's are passable but not great. 86 Raffael is just so decent, that I had to find a way to get him into the team. Normally I'd be using Khedira/Castro instead for a more well rounded player(thinking of picking up Vidal).

    I don't know why I am justifying them because you are right, the gameplay is trashy. I don't play WL and just try to have fun with SB's and playing online against friends.


    Mate. Enjoy it. Lovely team. Not trying to diss you at all. Just makes me chuckle how selective they are with "reality"

    I didn't take it as a diss. If anything, I used to be the guy taking a jab at someone for putting a ST in a CM role or even just using the 433(4) which I thought was ridiculous. Like you say, this game promotes unrealistic gameplay and it's finally rubbing off on me. I'm disgusted with myself haha.

    Raffael's 60 interceptions and 48 stand tackles are pretty legit, though....
  • hoofheartd
    194 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    He's not fast enough for WL. You'll come across people who abuse every little piece of the game to put speed up front to spam through balls and Kimmich can't keep up. Most games he'd be ok, but you'll come across games where he'll cost you goals. i personally like fullbacks to overlap for some creativity so he'd never work on my team as he can't get back to catch Martial, Alessendrini, Dembele, and every other pl pace forward.

    Some of the stuff i've come across this week is ridiculous. After pause i've faced S Mane at CAM, O Dembele at CAM, and R Lukaku at RCM in 41212 (2). Can't make this stuff up.
  • Owls4everr
    243 posts Sunday League Hero
    edited January 2018
    This is my team and I don’t really have an option but to get him in. I could always do a1st minute sub. Send Kimmich into Midfield and bring Valencia on for Matuidi.

    I think I will get hammered for my team hahah.

    http://ibb.co/eOdSEw

    Salah goes to LCAM
    Nain to CDM
    Perisic ST
  • PibeV14
    769 posts Semi-Pro
    Mdx wrote: »
    Owls4everr wrote: »
    1. Is he any good?
    2. What’s the 86 version Kimmich like?
    3. Is the TOTGS worth the extra 80k (160k) he gets an extra 3 pace, 4 Pass, Def, 5 Phy
    4. In terms of investment any good? Will he get TOTY?

    He is a weakness.
    Rb's and lbs need to be pacey in this game.
    Chemistry style cards simply don't have much effect.

    sad but true
  • richo27
    3735 posts National Call-Up
    Another example of how hunter cards are bs. No way is he 88/89 pace with one. I had TOTGS for a while. Good rounded card though.
  • Owls4everr
    243 posts Sunday League Hero
    Who else can I have as a German right back?
  • Corgo80
    86 posts Park Captain
    Fantastic, the SIF or the TOGS... just try him, feels really quick due to his acceleration, attacking his crossing is phenomenal.
    Try the 86, i'll bet you will upgrade to th 87 after ;)
  • Lcfc
    2490 posts Fans' Favourite
    I hate to say it but this game is all about pace
  • RCTID
    412 posts Sunday League Hero
    He will be one of the best and most influential players you use if you play his 86 or 87 card at wingback or in midfield. He isn’t at that level as a RB. He is amazing when he gets forward and can dominate the game in midfield.

    If you want to get the best out of him, find a fast midfielder that has the defensive stats to play RB and then switch in game.
  • ZCLA
    22 posts Ball Boy
    He's one of the better box to box mids for value if you sub him on
  • Owls4everr
    243 posts Sunday League Hero
    I bought him before got him was 5W 0L since he’s been in team 0W 3L.

    I had SIF he was nowhere near good as Valencia.
  • JoyW
    2014 posts Fans' Favourite
    one word: great
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