Let's try and settle the "Are icons worth it" debate
December 3, 2017 7:17AM
edited December 2017
First of, not used icons this year, I will however be buying my team at some point over the next month or so, with all the events happening and my coin total looking nice, it's a good time for me
However, the more I play this year, the more I think, is there actually ANY point whatsoever, for the casual player im talking about (Obviously if you're aiming for elite every month you are an exception to this debate) buying top icons for any other reason other than fun ? Or enjoyment
For example, take Vidal/Nain, how on earth can you justify, say, Petit/Gullit over them, or Suarez, is ADP/Crespo etc actually worth the money over them ? If you have spare coins and you grew up watching those guys and don't care too much for Suarez or Vidal and you'd rather have those icons for fun/nostalgia etc, then of course, you get them, but they surely can't be worth it over certain NIFs, I mean, look at the NIF CBs you can pick up for under 5k, unless Maldini was a favourite player of yours, is he actually worth it over Manolas or Varane, again, I must stress, this is for casual players, hard-core WL players I understand you need every tiny bit of advantage you can get so this doesn't apply to you
I just think it would be a shame for me and any others saving for their icons etc to be disappointed when they use them, if they could save themselves huge amounts of coins and just get other top players for cheaper
Thoughts ?
However, the more I play this year, the more I think, is there actually ANY point whatsoever, for the casual player im talking about (Obviously if you're aiming for elite every month you are an exception to this debate) buying top icons for any other reason other than fun ? Or enjoyment
For example, take Vidal/Nain, how on earth can you justify, say, Petit/Gullit over them, or Suarez, is ADP/Crespo etc actually worth the money over them ? If you have spare coins and you grew up watching those guys and don't care too much for Suarez or Vidal and you'd rather have those icons for fun/nostalgia etc, then of course, you get them, but they surely can't be worth it over certain NIFs, I mean, look at the NIF CBs you can pick up for under 5k, unless Maldini was a favourite player of yours, is he actually worth it over Manolas or Varane, again, I must stress, this is for casual players, hard-core WL players I understand you need every tiny bit of advantage you can get so this doesn't apply to you
I just think it would be a shame for me and any others saving for their icons etc to be disappointed when they use them, if they could save themselves huge amounts of coins and just get other top players for cheaper
Thoughts ?
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I have an untradable vidal which i have to buy 2 other players to fit in...if it was viera, he would slot straight into my first team..thats the difference
Viera - he seemed to have a sort of shield around him lol difficult to disposses
Gullit - no card is closed to being as balanced
R9- enough said
There are plenty of the cheaper ones like ADP, bergkamp etc with really good stats, I'd pay a lot for those (lets be real 96 composure, how good is that) but prices are inflated af, just due to hype and sbcs.
Some of the icons I just see no other reason for their price except, pure inflation and the fact they're an "icon" alot of average looking stats and to me, without using any this year, don't look worth it, unless, as I said, that particular player was a favourite of yours as a kid or whatever
You mention ADP though, I don't use a typical Premier League sweat team btw, but can you see why somebody would just choose IF Jesus or Son, or both ... and change ! Instead of ADP ? Stats wise there isn't much in it, price wise, they're world's apart
Not true, icons price fluctuate due to SBC's not because people want them for how good they are in game
That’s not true at all. For example, Gullit sells around 7m on PC, baby R9 sells for nearly 5m. That’s not because of anything to do with SBC, that’s because people are willing to pay that much to get them.
Schmeichel was 200k then shot up to 400k when the new icons got released so why did that happen then?
The only icons I really wanted from the start were schmeical (now own), Ronaldinho 91 and prime crespo. The rest can jog on
Er if we are talking about the low end icons sure their prices went up due to SBC requirements. But guess what? That’s because people are willing to pay that much to complete the icon SBC. The market value is based on what people are willing to pay for the item.
Plus that only applies to about 20% of the icon prices, the majority of them fluctuate due to overall market demand for those players.
Were talking about how good icons are in game so the whole "their worth it if someone will pay for it" doesn't really apply to over inflated icons due to SBC's
Also think they're worth it if you can get the best out of them - Henry for me is cheating. Don't need to work a clear chance and he still manages to smash every shot in, left foot or right foot, finesse, low driven, long shot, doesn't matter.
Obviously the links are great too. I'd say most baby icons no, mid/prime then yeah
Um of course it does.
If people don’t believe that it’s worth paying 400k to get a Schmeichel or Van der Sar in order to complete a Henry or an ADP then they wouldn’t be worth that much. I said icons are worth how much people are willing to pay for them, not they’re worth that much to play with.
If nobody thinks icons are worth the extra coins then they’d only be worth 100k discard value. But obviously that’s not the case.
I've been using Legends since release and I've used every one, all the way up to Pele, so I'm aware of their abilities, my point was, to a casual player, I wanted to know people's thoughts who'd used them extensively whether they're worth it over their NIF counterparts this year
People want to replicate Henry cutting in from the left and bending one across the keeper for example, then hearing the commentator scream Henrrrrry !! But I'm pretty sure Reus can do a similar job at LW for a 20th or whatever of his price
SIF Icardi 55k
Inzaghi 600k+
This is exactly the kind of thing im talking about, i think Icardi will actually be better, not just on par
Easy... because you trade him into the Henry or Petit or other Prime SBC. No other reason for him to be 600k
Also, which team is more fun ? Which one did you actually get quite hyped for to use, CR7 team or your icon team, it's all good having a competitive team but if it's not exciting then you probably aren't gunna win because you won't enjoy it, thus your mindset will be bad
Now are they worth it..... debatable for sure. Some are just game changers when they are used. For example, I bought one, 85 Blanc. Yes, only 85, and ~700K. Is he worth it...... Oh hell yes.... stats be damned, you can find some other players with better midfield stats, but he BOSSES the field like very few others AND he hybrids everything in. Yes please. I play him at a CCAM in a 4231 and imagine the awesome of having a CAM with 70+ defending, height, strength, speed, decent WF and skills, and a shot that is like a rocket (keep hitting the cross bar with a touch too much power). Is he worth it, for me Yes, do I wish he was cheaper, yes, will he go lower as the better IFs come out, probably. Do I care, only a little, he is one of the things that I find "fun" about the game.
Then you have this side of the coin ! Even if you lose, just having your favourite players you watched growing up can be satisfying, I had it in previous UT and it was just Good, even when the game went against you
I think with current prices only icons 700K+ are playing to their value.... the others are SBC fodder for bigger better icons.
Out of those, the only ones I'd consider are Blanc and Crespo, Rui and Overmars look like they have better alternatives for cheaper and Gullit is just too damn overpriced, but I'm glad they're working out for people
The only icon I.actually want is zanetti purely because hes probably my favourite non boro player of my lifetime.