Packs aren't random

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  • Williejno1
    3084 posts National Call-Up
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    Lumitesi wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    Sirin wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    concept of luck is clearly impossible to understand for some people.. everything is always so rigged.. illuminati

    Or you are just being very naive.

    Nope.. just not deluded little kid like most of you

    Yes because it's completely impossible that EA, proven more than enough times to be a very greedy company, rigs a system without any laws, legal control or any transparency for maximum proffit. To not even entertain such a possibility means you're at the very least a very naive person.
    Don't get me wrong, this is a business and the aim is always to make proffit. But there are fair and unfair business practices and I really wouldn't put it past EA to go down the unfair way. Having different pack weights to encourage spending is pretty unfair. If you buy packs, you earned them, either by playing games/trading or by working a RL job for FP so you deserve the same weights and chance to pull something good.

    Show me the proof of them rigging the system somehow. And "me and my mate both opened gold pack, and he got de bruyne and I got only John Terry" isnt a proof of anything mr tinfoilhat
    The proof is there I stated above I open 6mega packs back to back and hit the same 2 players as highest rated in 5 of them if that is not rigged the odds of that happening would be in the millions with the amount of players in data base if it was random there is more chance of winning lottery than that happening
    Packs are clearly rigged though I’ve no idea how it’s done I’m assuming it’s down to how many of a certain player is in the market then then it generates more automatically as they bieng dumped into sbc

  • TeamRem
    2341 posts Fans' Favourite
    Pekka is right in that no one appears to have proof of how pack distribution works. You could open 2 or 20,000 packs and the results wouldn’t prove or disprove randomness. However, given EAs inclination to adopt dynamic difficulty (ie manipulating game mechanics in a social science context to get us to play as much as possible) I think it is reasonable to posit that EA is doing the same for packs.

    On top of that, though again I can’t disprove randomness, I don’t think I am a conspiracy theorist when I look at the data set that is my pack opening history. I feel comfortable believing that my SBC packs have given me 3x more likely special cards, played out over hundreds if not thousands of packs. I feel less confident asserting other variables that affect pack values, though I still believe them.
  • Murf1985
    357 posts Sunday League Hero
    I bought 1600 fifa points last wednesday and packed IF Fernanindho, IF Young, Martial and Ousmane Dembele. I bought the same this week and got Toprak, Butland and Iheanacho.
  • alex1987
    5483 posts Big Money Move
    edited November 2017
    Eh?
    Packing 2 Vermaelen in a row as an argument for not being random?

    I mean. The chance of packing a Vermaelen in pack 1 is the same for packing one in pack 2. There is a chance of packing 2 in a row, you just need to be incredibly "lucky".
    Or does that mean whenever I win 2 lottery's in a row that these are not random either?

    From my gold 3 rewards, 2 mega packs and a rare player pack, the best I had was Asensio.
    However, from losing the first round in draft I packed a Robben from a 5k pack.
  • Stickybelly
    2666 posts Fans' Favourite
    Lumitesi wrote: »
    In FIFA 16 I got bored pretty quickly, didn't play much before toty and then didn't play much till tots. When tots came around I thought "well the circus is ending, might as well spend everything and see if I get lucky". Opened a 50k pack and to my surprise, a high rated PL tots pops out, Alexis Sanchez iirc. I see the full pack content and another decent tots is there (azpili willy I think). Oh boy did they reel me back in. I spent the rest of my coins buying more packs and as soon as they ended I bought some FP to open more as my "packs luck" had been pretty decent. As soon as I started opening the same packs with FP's my luck changed immensely and I got jack all, even in the more expensive packs.
    This wasn't the first time that I had stopped playing for a while and when I returned my pack luck had suddenly turned godly. I'm pretty surge the system is rigged, new and returning players get better "luck" in order to get them spending, loyal players get jack all because they're already playing, big time FP buyers get nothing too because if they did players would be much cheaper and people wouldn't feel the need to buy FP.
    Tl, dr: stop giving EA money. The system is rigged against you and will always be as long as they keep proffiting from it.

    This. Completely agree. There’s always an agenda with EA. Completely naive to think otherwise.
  • Rulistening
    1901 posts Play-Off Hero
    Williejno1 wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    Lumitesi wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    Sirin wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    concept of luck is clearly impossible to understand for some people.. everything is always so rigged.. illuminati

    Or you are just being very naive.

    Nope.. just not deluded little kid like most of you

    Yes because it's completely impossible that EA, proven more than enough times to be a very greedy company, rigs a system without any laws, legal control or any transparency for maximum proffit. To not even entertain such a possibility means you're at the very least a very naive person.
    Don't get me wrong, this is a business and the aim is always to make proffit. But there are fair and unfair business practices and I really wouldn't put it past EA to go down the unfair way. Having different pack weights to encourage spending is pretty unfair. If you buy packs, you earned them, either by playing games/trading or by working a RL job for FP so you deserve the same weights and chance to pull something good.

    Show me the proof of them rigging the system somehow. And "me and my mate both opened gold pack, and he got de bruyne and I got only John Terry" isnt a proof of anything mr tinfoilhat
    The proof is there I stated above I open 6mega packs back to back and hit the same 2 players as highest rated in 5 of them if that is not rigged the odds of that happening would be in the millions with the amount of players in data base if it was random there is more chance of winning lottery than that happening
    Packs are clearly rigged though I’ve no idea how it’s done I’m assuming it’s down to how many of a certain player is in the market then then it generates more automatically as they bieng dumped into sbc

    Breaking news:

    Packs are fixed because after 6 mega packs the same player appeared twice and Williejno1 didnt pull Ronaldo. More to follow
  • Icosa_Gaming
    6779 posts Big Money Move
    Everything is rigged on this game
  • Williejno1
    3084 posts National Call-Up
    edited November 2017
    Williejno1 wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    Lumitesi wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    Sirin wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    concept of luck is clearly impossible to understand for some people.. everything is always so rigged.. illuminati

    Or you are just being very naive.

    Nope.. just not deluded little kid like most of you

    Yes because it's completely impossible that EA, proven more than enough times to be a very greedy company, rigs a system without any laws, legal control or any transparency for maximum proffit. To not even entertain such a possibility means you're at the very least a very naive person.
    Don't get me wrong, this is a business and the aim is always to make proffit. But there are fair and unfair business practices and I really wouldn't put it past EA to go down the unfair way. Having different pack weights to encourage spending is pretty unfair. If you buy packs, you earned them, either by playing games/trading or by working a RL job for FP so you deserve the same weights and chance to pull something good.

    Show me the proof of them rigging the system somehow. And "me and my mate both opened gold pack, and he got de bruyne and I got only John Terry" isnt a proof of anything mr tinfoilhat
    The proof is there I stated above I open 6mega packs back to back and hit the same 2 players as highest rated in 5 of them if that is not rigged the odds of that happening would be in the millions with the amount of players in data base if it was random there is more chance of winning lottery than that happening
    Packs are clearly rigged though I’ve no idea how it’s done I’m assuming it’s down to how many of a certain player is in the market then then it generates more automatically as they bieng dumped into sbc

    Breaking news:

    Packs are fixed because after 6 mega packs the same player appeared twice and Williejno1 didnt pull Ronaldo. More to follow
    Did u even read what it said and the same 2 players appeared as the top rated in 5 of the 6 if I bought them at different times or days that would make sense but not within a min of each other
    And it doesn’t mention Ronaldo or annoyed about not pulling a decent player
  • number5
    41 posts Last Pick at the Park
    I pulled kodija back to back to back yesterday. Then opened two packs later last night and pulled him again. Opened a total of 15 packs using coins yesterday, highest player was Farhmann (~4k). if it is random, I just made off with better odds than winning the lottery pulling kodija 4 of 15 times given the amount of gold/rare players in the game.
  • Lumitesi
    763 posts An Exciting Prospect
    edited November 2017
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    Lumitesi wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    Sirin wrote: »
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    concept of luck is clearly impossible to understand for some people.. everything is always so rigged.. illuminati

    Or you are just being very naive.

    Nope.. just not deluded little kid like most of you

    Yes because it's completely impossible that EA, proven more than enough times to be a very greedy company, rigs a system without any laws, legal control or any transparency for maximum proffit. To not even entertain such a possibility means you're at the very least a very naive person.
    Don't get me wrong, this is a business and the aim is always to make proffit. But there are fair and unfair business practices and I really wouldn't put it past EA to go down the unfair way. Having different pack weights to encourage spending is pretty unfair. If you buy packs, you earned them, either by playing games/trading or by working a RL job for FP so you deserve the same weights and chance to pull something good.

    Show me the proof of them rigging the system somehow. And "me and my mate both opened gold pack, and he got de bruyne and I got only John Terry" isnt a proof of anything mr tinfoilhat

    So besides being naive you can't read? I said EA has been proved to be a very greedy company. Let me highlight that for you so you can understand it better. Being a pioneer in day one DLC's in AAA games and continued use of complicated DRM's that cause a bad costumer experience more than anything else are good examples why, if you don't believe me. If you wanna go further, look up the slavery lawsuit against them by their employees in 2004.
    At no point in my post did I say I could prove any rigging in the system. Obviously noone can otherwise EA would have been sued already and the system would have changed if it were true. Looking at this track record, considering they've shown that they can control pack weights on the fly and keeping any account of your packs over the years, not even entertaining the possibility that they're rigged just means you're naive. So keep on being herded mrsheep.
    Questioning the world around me and how things work doesn't mean I wear a tinfoil hat, though I can see how it may look like it does for somente as closeminded as you seem to be.
  • Rhillips
    71 posts Park Captain
    During my good pack stint I hit mbappe, cavani, cavani in that order, from three gold upgrades two player packs. One after the other. It can't be random. Since then, gold upgrade has been rubbish. And had to discard the second cavani!
  • bjornheisenberg
    3714 posts National Call-Up
    pekkaa88 wrote: »
    Last week I bought 20 lottery tickets and didnt win anything, but I heard that the guy who won it only bought one and won 4 million euros.. Does this mean that the lottery is not random?

    the lottery doesnt have a rng which can be manipulated...unless they use hot or cold balls lol
  • Sykesy
    4456 posts National Call-Up
    Sbc's are dream packs. Pulled way better from sbc's than points
  • richo27
    3735 posts National Call-Up
    VagisilFC wrote: »
    They are as random as slot machines. Programmed to let you catch small wins to keep you playing. Designed to make you go bust.

    It's literally no different than slots at a casino.

    The free rewards they give out for daily objectives or logging into the web app are the equivalent of the free all you can eat buffet at a casino. It gets you in the door and keeps you there.

    True.
  • sunderland
    1497 posts Play-Off Hero
    QuinnUK87 wrote: »
    Leave FP in your account.. The minimum possible. It works...

    wtf my pack luck at the start of the year was dreadful and then i bought fifa points about a month ago which left 25 fp in my account. I got no one but my pack luck after that has been insane. Can confirm this
  • Yordybaglieto
    174 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    dont know who said it but someone said leave some points in your account like 25 of 50 fifa points.

    i did, and got some sbc packs from the hernandez prime and got Naingolan Luiz and bellerin in that pack it was not even a really special pack but first try and worked..

    get those tinfoil hats out boissssss

  • L1vingl1fe
    3074 posts National Call-Up
    Toonleew wrote: »
    Newbies get better pulls than oldies . Happens every year. Us FUT founders get naff all

    No way. I’ve packed IF Jesus, Gullit, and multiple 86+s this year. It’s pure luck
  • Sirin
    2504 posts Fans' Favourite
    Just won the draft again, got a 50k pack and a 5k pack. Pretty sure i actually lost coins since i didn't get a single player worth over 1k. Getting ridiculous now, can't even remember what billboards look like no more thats how long its been.
  • Nothing is random in this game, how ca it be random when I personaly packed b2b if zaha and next day b2b kante, and in every wl rewards i must pack asensio or carvalho every time
  • Yordybaglieto
    174 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Cavaldj wrote: »
    Nothing is random in this game, how ca it be random when I personaly packed b2b if zaha and next day b2b kante, and in every wl rewards i must pack asensio or carvalho every time

    They mean its random wich account have the luck to pack a good player because some players are only packing carvalhos while others keep getting walkouts after walkouts with a record of 100 wins and 400 losses.
  • AFC AJAX NR 1
    13067 posts Has That Special Something
    edited November 2017
    dont know who said it but someone said leave some points in your account like 25 of 50 fifa points.

    i did, and got some sbc packs from the hernandez prime and got Naingolan Luiz and bellerin in that pack it was not even a really special pack but first try and worked..

    get those tinfoil hats out boissssss

    I got 50 FP on my account for years now, never pulled any decent player that I wanted, so yeah. No correlation there.
  • Yordybaglieto
    174 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    dont know who said it but someone said leave some points in your account like 25 of 50 fifa points.

    i did, and got some sbc packs from the hernandez prime and got Naingolan Luiz and bellerin in that pack it was not even a really special pack but first try and worked..

    get those tinfoil hats out boissssss

    I got 50 FP on my account for years now, never pulled any decent player that I wanted, so yeah. No correlation there.

    its because you didnt wear a tinfoil hat.

  • Chubz
    3210 posts National Call-Up
    i use this technique....i just never buy packs :D no points, house always wins.
  • Onedoesntsimply
    2051 posts Fans' Favourite
    Turbo_uk wrote: »
    2 weeks ago i opened 4 packs and got 3 bakayokos. thats not random, its rigged.

    Haha I opened 7 packs yesterday and got Mario Fernandes (I think - the RB for CSKA) in 3 packs in a row. Given the number of players in FIFA and the associated pack weights the chance of this happening should be one in a million, but everyone knows it's not.
  • sachi
    10 posts Ball Boy
    check out this link guys, I hope EA will start listening to their customers from now on. We can pressure them too to change this nonsense scripted gameplay and rigged packed opening (pack weight).

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/17/wall-street-is-freaking-out-as-ea-caves-again-to-social-media-outrage-over-its-star-wars-game.html
  • Stkyfngz
    4847 posts National Call-Up
    I've finally gotten a player worth 150k this weekend after spending around 140k FP lmao :D
  • RandomLhama83
    10092 posts Has That Special Something
    Stkyfngz wrote: »
    I've finally gotten a player worth 150k this weekend after spending around 140k FP lmao :D

    not even worth it when you spend that much.
  • desperado646
    515 posts Sunday League Hero
    I think they are random..

    I have opened pretty normal packs so far, nothing special.. But have packed a few 150k players like Mbappe, IF Immobile, Bonucci and Alexis (Today).

    No 300-400 K plus or Icons though..

  • dieiscast
    366 posts Sunday League Hero
    I'm pretty sure it's random but EA is changing pack weight constantly. I had a phase in 17 when 2 player packs were OP during a promo phase. I got players like Boateng (100k then) and a lot of 85 + in EVERY pack. Soon it went back to normal (2 x 75 rated)...
  • VagisilFC
    1403 posts Professional
    Anyone else notice that SBC's also affect the pack weight. The number of Allsvensken players in packs jumped when the SBC for that POTY SBC came out. Same for players from clubs that are required for marquee matchups. I pulled three Real Madrid players last week.....
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