Have heard nothing but great things about both of these players. Got lucky yesterday and packed both in a Mega pack. Hurriedly threw them into my EPL lineup in place of Smalling and Aurier. Unfortunately now my EPL team is a disaster. Defending straight down the toilet. Can't stop anyone since putting these 2 in my lineup. How can players be OP for some and crap for others. Seems they screwed up my whole team chemistry by adding them in the lineup.