The FUT 18 Discard IF Trading Thread

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shamheff1989
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NOTE: This is just a placeholder OP. I've copied and pasted everything from my thread last year below. At the start of FUT 17, everything that was said held true. Things changed drastically once POTM and SBCs dropped, particularly the appearance of IF requirements. As we don't know how the market will work on 18 as of yet, if people who were active in the old thread want to post new/updated advice and tips, I'll gradually update this post until the web app/full game drops.

Welcome to The IF Trading Thread for Ultimate Team 17!

How does this method work?
It mainly involves bulk-buying of a certain IF and listing at a higher price in order to catch lazy buyers, players who don’t understand the market and, in general, those who do not search for lowest prices for players. It works through filling a minimum of one page on the market with your higher-priced cards. This is not a price-fix. Numerous other, lower-priced, cards will be available.

How do I take part?
It’s quite simple. Identify a player in the current TOTW that you feel will be a popular seller. Look for things like popular leagues or nations, position changes, lower-rated cards with high stats or anything else that you think will be attractive to buyers. Buy a number of this card - the more, the better - and list for a higher price. Aim to fill at least one page of the market. List all of you cards for an hour and relist every hour. If you wish, relist for six or twelve hours overnight but this is not essential. Once you sell a card, reinvest in another of the same player until you are happy to move on from him. Take pictures of any sales and post in this thread to keep up the morale and give others ideas. This is not the place for secretive investments. This method works best when there are numerous people doing it as there will be more cards at our higher prices on the market.

How much should I have before starting?
I would recommend at least 100k - enough to buy a full page of a lower-priced IFs. Start small, with small profits, and work your way up to the big money. Don’t spread yourself too thin. Focus on one player and make some money on him, then diversify to two, three and so on. The good thing is this method is transferrable. If you don’t have 100k, start with popular non-IFs and use the same principle this operates on until you reach 100k.

Are there any things I should look out for?
Bear in mind that some factors help cards sell quicker than others. At the beginning, things like 99 contracts, Hunter/Shadow chemistry styles or position changes are desirable. As cards go out of packs and become rarer, fresh cards are the big sellers. Always buy fresh when you are stocking up, where possible, as they prove to be the best sellers.

What price should I list my cards for?
Two years ago, we tried to stick to standard prices for players. It didn’t work. Impatient forumers got anxious and started undercutting. Last year, each worked to their own prices. Personally, I generally aim for 50% profit on what I paid. For example, if I buy 10 cards at 10k each, I will list them for between 15000 and 16500 each. This would average at about 15k per card after tax (not exactly!), giving me 5k profit per card. It’s always a good idea to vary your prices slightly as some people will avoid buying a card when they see 13 or 14 at the same price in a row. Change the BIN slightly for each card. Keep your margins in line with the price you paid, and always bear tax in mind. Don't list a card you bought for 100k for 105k. By doing so, you'll actually be losing 250 coins each sale. Go for 120-125k. This will give a profit of 15k on average. Change your figures to suit the prices of cards you are dealing with.

What if my card doesn’t sell?
If you post regularly, you’ll see me and others post regularly about patience. Along with luck, it’s the most important factor. Every IF, no matter how undesirable, rises eventually. Give it a month or two and prices will naturally rise to near your higher price. If you bought all fresh, that’ll make up the extra few thousand to make your card’s once inflated price now become its actual worth.

Is this method for me?
It all boils down to a few factors. If you are patient and can put up with having large amounts of coins tied up in your transfer pile for extended periods, it’s a great, low-effort way to make lots of coins! If you can’t hack that, you’re better off doing something else. Similarly, if you don’t think you can face hitting relist every hour, or not selling a card for a week and a half, you’re best off finding another method.

Does this method work?
Undoubtedly! I spent way too much money in FPs in 13 and 14. Come 15, I resolved to learn a trading method to cut my spending. I found IF trading and haven’t looked back since! Over the last two years, I’ve made millions, and can post pictures of my final clubs from those games to prove this is a brilliant way to make coins. Admittedly, I did spend about €150 each release day, and will do so again this year, in order to get a decent head start but this is not necessary. Coin boosts, playing games, other trading methods and tournament wins will soon get you the 100-or-so thousand you need to start this!

A Quick Example
This was my first sale this year. I bought a few IF Forsberg for 10.5-11k. He's an IF from the Bundesliga (a popular league), is Swedish (allows for hybrids to Ibra), is a Week 1 IF (rarer than others due to the lack of packs opened on the web app) and is close to discard. At this stage of the year, I'll take any profits so I listed them for around 13.5-14.5k and this sold. I immediately bought another one. As time goes on, I'll pick up a few more and gradually raise my prices as more coins come into the game. All the 2-3k profits add up over the course of the year, and you'll obviously be able to afford more expensive cards as the year goes on, which in turn yield higher profits.

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I think I’ve covered all the basics here. Anything I forgot let me know and I’ll add it! Go easy on me though - this is my first guide after all! :lol:

To those who are new to this method, please feel free to ask questions. There are loads of us here who are happy to help. The only things that won’t be tolerated/won’t get a decent response are posts moaning about how this method is ****, posts complaining that none of your cards are selling, posts which ask the same question repeatedly or ignore answers that aren’t what the poster wants to hear and any others of this ilk. We’ve seen it all before and, in the end, the ones who help each other out and do things right are the winners in the end. To the old hands, hope this year is as fruitful as previous years, and the very best of luck to everyone!

Comments

  • shamheff1989
    2438 posts Fans' Favourite
    Link to old thread: http://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/182917/the-fut-17-if-trading-thread/p1

    294 pages and 8.8k views... didn't think it got that popular! :lol:
  • FootyFootyFootball
    2579 posts Fans' Favourite
    Bookmarked and looking forward to getting involved.

    Once the first totw and web app drop I'll be right on it.
  • limjitwe
    6688 posts Big Money Move
    Can't wait for the first TOTW!!
  • Dowls98
    307 posts Sunday League Hero
    I'll probably drop in now and then. Don't think I'm necessarily using this method but it is a great low effort method to pair with playing games!
  • lastfifa
    1593 posts Play-Off Hero
    17 was little disapointment as didn't have much time for weekend league and seasons got quite boring. Used this method in 17 and looking forward to start again.
  • Rolls-reus96
    1584 posts Play-Off Hero
    :)
  • shamheff1989
    2438 posts Fans' Favourite
    I don't know about others but for me this method very much turned into storing 84 rated IFs when they were cheap in anticipation of the next SBC. Relisted in the meantime and then usually made a killing when SBCs dropped.
  • I don't know about others but for me this method very much turned into storing 84 rated IFs when they were cheap in anticipation of the next SBC. Relisted in the meantime and then usually made a killing when SBCs dropped.

    More or less this until I went a bit higher risk.

    The discard in forms were pretty solid throughout with a bit of patience (looking forward to sieving through the inevitable moaning "I've had IF ..... for three days now and he still hasnt sold!")
  • EisenErmin
    5337 posts Big Money Move
    3 basic steps for the first big payday:

    1.) Make some coins by playing, trading (or buing points from the store)
    2.) Whait for the first discard TOTW player and spend allmost all your coins
    3.) Let the first SBC drop that requires a Totw player: BIG PAYDAY
  • lastfifa
    1593 posts Play-Off Hero
    I don't know about others but for me this method very much turned into storing 84 rated IFs when they were cheap in anticipation of the next SBC. Relisted in the meantime and then usually made a killing when SBCs dropped.

    This was my way to sell them last year. It was slow but very rewarding. I'm addicted to press relist button so this method is good fix for that :)
  • Hey, thanks for posting this. Will deffo be giving it a go, although I'm not the most patient person so hopefully there are plenty of positive posts on here to help keep the faith
  • FootyFootyFootball
    2579 posts Fans' Favourite
    Hey, thanks for posting this. Will deffo be giving it a go, although I'm not the most patient person so hopefully there are plenty of positive posts on here to help keep the faith

    Unfortunately patience is part and parcel of this method, if you want to flip cards more quickly you might be better off sticking with the gold trading method (which most people will be starting with anyway).

    But if you can handle having a lot of cards/coins tied up for weeks at a time then you can make a lot of money out of this.
  • Hey, thanks for posting this. Will deffo be giving it a go, although I'm not the most patient person so hopefully there are plenty of positive posts on here to help keep the faith

    Unfortunately patience is part and parcel of this method, if you want to flip cards more quickly you might be better off sticking with the gold trading method (which most people will be starting with anyway).

    But if you can handle having a lot of cards/coins tied up for weeks at a time then you can make a lot of money out of this.
    Hey, thanks for posting this. Will deffo be giving it a go, although I'm not the most patient person so hopefully there are plenty of positive posts on here to help keep the faith

    Unfortunately patience is part and parcel of this method, if you want to flip cards more quickly you might be better off sticking with the gold trading method (which most people will be starting with anyway).

    But if you can handle having a lot of cards/coins tied up for weeks at a time then you can make a lot of money out of this.

    it might be something for me to have a go at once I build an semi decent squad to start with that I'll be happy using for a while, deffo will be giving it a go though.
  • shamheff1989
    2438 posts Fans' Favourite
    Hey, thanks for posting this. Will deffo be giving it a go, although I'm not the most patient person so hopefully there are plenty of positive posts on here to help keep the faith

    Unfortunately patience is part and parcel of this method, if you want to flip cards more quickly you might be better off sticking with the gold trading method (which most people will be starting with anyway).

    But if you can handle having a lot of cards/coins tied up for weeks at a time then you can make a lot of money out of this.
    Hey, thanks for posting this. Will deffo be giving it a go, although I'm not the most patient person so hopefully there are plenty of positive posts on here to help keep the faith

    Unfortunately patience is part and parcel of this method, if you want to flip cards more quickly you might be better off sticking with the gold trading method (which most people will be starting with anyway).

    But if you can handle having a lot of cards/coins tied up for weeks at a time then you can make a lot of money out of this.

    it might be something for me to have a go at once I build an semi decent squad to start with that I'll be happy using for a while, deffo will be giving it a go though.

    Very much a method only if you have coins to play with or have patience. You won't see returns straight away. Ive finished the last two years with around 5 millions coins altogether and finished 15 with way more due to the combination of inflation and price ranges being introduced and I do no other methods. Don't even play that many games. I hold tough though cos I know the returns!
  • WTFsmirky08
    2970 posts National Call-Up
    This will be my day to day, week to week method again.

    15m Trade profit in 17, time to smash that guys
  • Dowls98
    307 posts Sunday League Hero
    Great start! DKL76gnXcAU5IOl.jpg:large

    C you next Tuesday! Literally. When Icon is released.
  • jrsantss
    674 posts Sunday League Hero
    I'll do this year
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    0 posts Sunday League Hero
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  • WTFsmirky08
    2970 posts National Call-Up
    Chown_LC wrote: »
    How well did this work last year?

    It works every year
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    0 posts Sunday League Hero
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  • FootyFootyFootball
    2579 posts Fans' Favourite
    Even better than the year before. With the introduction of SBCs, discard in forms always gain value at some point
  • HakunaMatataSH
    194 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    doing well with this method fifa17, let's go fifa18 !
  • Popov_98
    25 posts Last Pick at the Park
    any options that seem investable by now? :) valbuena? fabianski? philip?
  • Dowls98
    307 posts Sunday League Hero
    Popov_98 wrote: »
    any options that seem investable by now? :) valbuena? fabianski? philip?

    I really like the look of Aranguiz. Such a great box to box (stats wise) and has 93 stamina. Decent set piece taker too. He's flat out discard. Shame I don't have access to market.
  • EisenErmin
    5337 posts Big Money Move
    Dowls98 wrote: »
    Popov_98 wrote: »
    any options that seem investable by now? :) valbuena? fabianski? philip?

    I really like the look of Aranguiz. Such a great box to box (stats wise) and has 93 stamina. Decent set piece taker too. He's flat out discard. Shame I don't have access to market.

    Yea, aranguiz is a great card and its unlikely he gets annother IF soon. He will rise a lot for sure.
  • Popov_98
    25 posts Last Pick at the Park
    Dowls98 wrote: »
    Popov_98 wrote: »
    any options that seem investable by now? :) valbuena? fabianski? philip?

    I really like the look of Aranguiz. Such a great box to box (stats wise) and has 93 stamina. Decent set piece taker too. He's flat out discard. Shame I don't have access to market.

    Yeah I was looking at him as well, got morata and immobile in my loyalty packs, with the rest of the gold players it made me able to buy two of them :smile: well then Aranguiz it will be!
  • Retro_G
    28117 posts Player of the Year
    Aranguiz looks like a great investment. Shame Martinez is MLS, his base stats are real impressive. 90 pace, 81 shot, 85 dribble, 79 Physical, 74 pass.
  • Currieman
    4918 posts National Call-Up
    Hey, thanks for posting this. Will deffo be giving it a go, although I'm not the most patient person so hopefully there are plenty of positive posts on here to help keep the faith

    Unfortunately patience is part and parcel of this method, if you want to flip cards more quickly you might be better off sticking with the gold trading method (which most people will be starting with anyway).

    But if you can handle having a lot of cards/coins tied up for weeks at a time then you can make a lot of money out of this.
    Hey, thanks for posting this. Will deffo be giving it a go, although I'm not the most patient person so hopefully there are plenty of positive posts on here to help keep the faith

    Unfortunately patience is part and parcel of this method, if you want to flip cards more quickly you might be better off sticking with the gold trading method (which most people will be starting with anyway).

    But if you can handle having a lot of cards/coins tied up for weeks at a time then you can make a lot of money out of this.

    it might be something for me to have a go at once I build an semi decent squad to start with that I'll be happy using for a while, deffo will be giving it a go though.

    Very much a method only if you have coins to play with or have patience. You won't see returns straight away. Ive finished the last two years with around 5 millions coins altogether and finished 15 with way more due to the combination of inflation and price ranges being introduced and I do no other methods. Don't even play that many games. I hold tough though cos I know the returns!

    @shamheff1989 so being a complete novice at this my understanding is that you buy a discard IF card and then wait for the first SBC to come out that requires them and then sell for profit?

    So if you've got enough coins to buy say 5-10 of these then you should invest in them?
  • Generally you want at least 10, enough to fill the front page.

    The discard in form method has always been about having zero risk, at some point someone will buy and pay over the odds for it.

    The SBCs is just a bonus that came in to play last year. The method works without SBCs, it's just much better when it works with them
  • Currieman
    4918 posts National Call-Up
    Generally you want at least 10, enough to fill the front page.

    The discard in form method has always been about having zero risk, at some point someone will buy and pay over the odds for it.

    The SBCs is just a bonus that came in to play last year. The method works without SBCs, it's just much better when it works with them

    Sweet, thanks mate. Gonna be the year for trading!
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